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I paid $20,129 for the similar options: curtain airbag, floormat and MP3 . So looks like you getting a better deal ( price for installed crossbars $400 while the MP3 is $150 ).
If you can get another 500 buck then that is perfect.
I just called the 800 # of Saturn and found out the $500 is only on ION not on the VUE. So the price I got seems to be the current bottom.
winter55, probably your tax rate is a little bit higher.
The Redline, though I love how it looks, probably wouldn't be the smart option for me (a 50ish goober with a couple of kids), especially with the 18" wheels and tires which probably aren't destined to last long.
What I probably would select would be a FWD V-6, maybe with the upgraded alloys and a sunroof.
Anyway, my questions are, have you been satisfied with yours? What is the MPG in real world driving? Has it been reasonably reliable (I know the new V-6 comes from Honda and is in its first year with the Vue)? I believe you can only get a handshaker (manual shift) on the 4, is that correct?
Also, does anyone know how long Saturn will be handing out those $250 vouchers?
Thanx for your help.
IMHO, Saturn will handling out the voucher as long as they want to sell their cars, but I am not sure about 3.5 K rebate, specially 1K from GM Truckfest
If your price after rebates, vouchers, and any other discounts is $18,684.95, then that is what you should pay sales tax on. They should not be making you pay sales tax on the full sticker price.
Now in the event a consumer elects not to assign the rebates to the dealer and actually wants a check back from the manufacturer, the buyer would be required to pay tax on the price before rebates.
That's the way it is done in every state where I have purchased cars.
Ryster, I don't know where you live that the coputation is the way you explain it. What state???
The only thing isn't count as down payment is your trade in old car.
Therefore,as nortsr1 said, tax before rebates not... after.
Ramped: If it is not the Honda drive train then you should not worry about other stuffs. They are the "ordinary" GMparts and like million of other of Ford, Chrysler, perhaps they come from the same small manufacturing house...
Just this past October, I bought an '03 Durango. Sticker price was approx. $30K, but with rebates and discounts the purchase price was $24K. The dealer charged me sales tax on the $24K, not the $30K.
Historically here it has been:
Sticker
minus discounts
minus rebates
Final purchase price
plus tax on final purchase price
plus registration
minus downpayment
Amount left to finance
It must vary by state.
The Hyundai dealer calculated the tax on the price after negotiation and rebate when I test drive the Santa Fe the other day.
What really surprised me was the tax rates they used were different!! Saturn dealer used 5.4% while Hyundai used 6%.(in KY)
It seems the easiest way is just to put eyes on the out of door price.
I see no good reason why this "good as cash" point system could not be applied permanently to Saturn.
1. Was told my GM credit card points were not accepted but dealer did give me extra $750 against my $1150 potential.
2. They claimed they knew nothing of the 6 coupons worth $250 each. Noticed in the paper latter that day they are offering up to $1,500 bonus cash that I think is the same. Can someone confirm and is this a regional deal or nationwide?
3. They offered me $3500 rebate + $750 off sticker with my financing or $1,000 +750 with 0% @60. I assume the $1000 is truckfest is that correct or should I be looking for more rebates?
4. I may be able to get the GM supplier discount. What would that do for me?
5. Has anyone purchased or seen the Safe and Sound Package for $880. Saturn website says it is reduced by $360 at this time.
I need to speak to the dealer Monday to close deal and would really appreciate any advice you can offer.
Thanks
Larry
Larry
1st Fill-Up: ~21mpg
2nd Fill-Up: ~20mpg
The 4cyl 5sp version of the VUE quotes a mpg estimate of 24 City / 29 Highway.
Both fill-ups were at roughly 1/2 empty. Most of the driving was 70% city / 30% highway.
Why is mine so much lower?
Does it get better over time?
I have been driving it with utmost gentleness and not winding out the gears or anything in an attempt to get the best reasonable fuel mileage.
One of the reasons I bought the 4cyl 5sp VUE was to maximize fuel mileage (even before gas prices shot up to $2.00+ a gallon).
Any thoughts from any of you 4cyl VUE owners?
Thanks in advance.
I would love it if they match the tan interior exactly, but close would work.
The Saturn Retailer said they don't have seat covers for the rear bench seat, only the front seats.
All I have been able to find online is black neoprene, which is not the look I want.
We have an infant with a car seat, and I know that things are going to get spilled on the rear seat so I'm trying to find a solution BEFORE anything gets spilled on it.
Thanks.
Steve, Host
I had initially asked if anyone had any problems installing a Flip-Doan DVD system in their Vue with a Sunroof. One very LARGE electronics outfit said they could install it... NO Problem.
After careful consideration, I gave them the opportunity. They had a sale on a 7" Flip-Down LCD monitor with DVD player and 2 wireless headphones in a Sunday flyer ($499 uninstalled, a couple weeks ago). So after purchasing it, I paid the $190 for installation (although I probably could have done it myself but it would have taken longer and not looked as professional). I took it to their car stereo installation bay the next morning and later that afternoon POOF, it was installed as if it belonged there from day one. My only issue was that after removing the middle dome light and installing the LCD monitor in its place the rear dome light and hatch lights no longer worked. I took it back to them and within hours they had it fixed too.
Here is my advice....
1. Go to a reputable place, one that guarantees their installations. This one guarantees their work for the life of the vehicle.
2. If they say they have never installed one in a car or suv with a sunroof, don't use them to experiment on your vehicle. This place emphatically told me that they had done it many many times. I felt confident in their assurances.
3. Don't let them talk you into the FM Modulator so that you can hear the Audio from the DVD player over the radio. The FM band cuts off way too much bandwidth from the unit and the audio does not sound the same as through the headphones. I am currently checking several websites for an add on accessory to the factory am/fm/cd/mp3 player to allow direct audio input into the radio using the Aux input.
4. Don't go overboard; A 7" screen, although small, is more than enough for the kids to enjoy a movie or do Playstation on during long trips. Too big a flip down monitor and your sight through the rear window with the rearview mirror is completely blocked.
5. Get a system with separate components... don't get the all-in-one DVD/LCD monitor systems. If the DVD player goes bad or breaks, it's easily removed/replaced. Same goes for the overhead LCD. On an all-in-one system... if one goes, you need to take the whole thing down and get it fixed/replaced.
Lastly, if you have kids and intend on going on long trips with them in the back seat... GET ONE OF THESE!!!!! The silence is blissful
As kids, we seemed to manage just fine doing other things like games or reading on the road.
Make sure I have the incentives straight:
0% + 1,000 truckfest + up to $1500 vouchers
OR
2,500 rebate + 1,000 truckfest + up to $1500 vouchers total of $5000
Questions: I have a Kia I am way upside down on (6000 owed, MAY get $2500 trade in) Should I hold the voucher info up my sleeve until I can see what they offer for the tradein?
Also they have a 2004 with 1300 miles. They said it was preowned and didn't qualify for incentives, but I'm wondering if it isn't like one of those turned in prior than 30 days that would still qualify as new for incentives???????
Trying to keep payments under $400, $375 would be even better! If you do the full $5,000 rebates, can you still do GMAC just not 0%? What type of rate might you then get?
Thanks! Haven't bought a NEW car in 10 years! Wanna make sure I don't screw it up!
FWIW, my insurance will go down over $40 every 60 months due to the safety ratings. BTW we DEFINITELY are getting the side curtain airbags as we have 2 children.
The Saturnofgrandledge.com website in Michigan mentions them for any VUE. That is the only dealer site I have found that mentions them.
I guess I'll find out tomorrow! Any other thoughts?
$1000 truckfest + $2,500 + $750 discount with 4.39% f/60 months thru eloan. This was $1 cheaper per month than 0% without $2,500 but you are better off finanicing less principle incase you decide to pay off early. You will probably not get this low a rate thru GMAC.
I pushed hard for some of the $250 vouchers and the dealer said they knew nothing about it. I also pushed for them to take my $675 credit from GM Mastercard knowing it would not apply but figured it would give me a reason to walk if needed. They countered with a $750 additional discount.
I called other Houston area and San Antonio Saturn dealers and was given mixed responses to the vouchers from the program is over to we are out to we have a few left but the most we will give is 3. I called Saturn Cust Serv and they told me the program ended May 1.
Not sure what they will do on the trade in but you would do better selling yourself as long as you factor in the tax savings of the trade in.
Larry
Steve
Thanks for sharing. The transmission shifting is more like a down shift into overdrive, it doesn't lurch, but very noticeable. From a stop, it shifts very smoothly and when I want to pass, it really accelerates :-) I too, like others have a noise on a hard right turn, I look forward to hearing from you and others as to what the fix, if any is.
Steve
Thanks
I am happy with the way our Vue handles and absorbs bumps.
Gas mileage on only long trip of 350 miles was 25.8 mpg. Slightly disappointing, but I was going 78 with air on. We'll see if it gets better over time. Engine is wonderful, once it warms up after five minutes, it wants to go. I call it the "Honda Vue". With 1400 miles on it, I am going to change the oil today to synthetic and see what it does.
Get the V6 - you will not be disappointed.
Seems like it needs to go back to dealer for "service" every couple of months or so...had to have it towed once (wiring harness somewhere behind the dash came loose; several "service engine soon" lights...one was thermostat related, one was that it sensed a "misfire condition"..and had to have the left rear wheel hub replaced. ANYWAY, mine too has "scrunching noise" noticed during left turns...am going to have dealer check it out next visit...as it is persistent. Also have vibration in right door panel somewhere..can't decide if it's in the center door panel area or "B" pillar behind the seat belt anchor mechanism. Will comment further on the left turn issue after next visit.
Speeds were pretty constant in the 75mph range, when we didn't have to wait in long lines of road construction/accidents. Some of the lower rates can be attributed to those excruciating minutes of idling on the Interstate.
But all in all we were very pleased with the performance, the efficiency, the ride, and of course the AC!
Any thoughts from someone on what to do next? We are again going to take it back and see what happens. Maybe we can "bother" them into a fix.
and here I am getting frustrated with fuel mileage and a little grainy rattle in the support pillar between the driver's front and rear doors. I guess I should be thankful I haven't had to start returning the VUE quarterly for big warranty fixes. Then again, I've only had it two months so time will tell...
1350 miles and still no improvement in fuel mileage on my 2004 VUE 4cyl 5sp. Still kicking around 20.1mpg to 20.8mpg. I have a road trip planned for next month -- I hope to see improvement then (pretty please .
Steve, Host
Can someone explain to me how the voucher thing works? I mean do I just ask the salesman how many they will offer to me? I don't want to sound too pushy or obnoxious but I also would like to take advantage of any bonus $$ I can.
I'm looking for a Black FWD V6 with perhaps the comfort seating package...no need for sunroof but finding it hard to find one with just the options I want.
I just love the power of that Honda V6 and the awesome gas mileage it gives for an engine with that oomph.
Any advice on how to get the max vouchers would be great