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Thanks frustrated in Bama
Paint peeling on an '08 is definitely warranty. I'll keep an eye out on mine since you raised it. Let me know how it turns out.
Good luck!
After sitting in stop and go traffic the automatic transmission and the engine seem to stop getting along. At a constant speed, eg 55mph the engine races, as if the transmission is constantly searching for the right gear (also only driving on a level surface).
The gear indication light sometimes flashes. When the problem is the worst the car will simply refuse to go forward.
I've taken the car to the dealership on several occasions but they can't seem to find anything wrong. They can't re-create the scenario even though it happens to me almost every time I have sat in traffic for more than a few minutes.
Has anyone else seen this issue? Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can approach this with Honda? The car has been to the dealership at least 4 times with no action taken or problem identified.
Thanks
Sorry for you but glad to know I'm not alone. Maybe someone from Honda can advise if there is a target ratio from Honda for warranty Vs retail repairs in each of the dealerships because the hunger to repair when under warranty is definitely absent. Wait 'til you need a brake job/timing belt and see how accomodating they are. Anyway....my sound system is nowhere near as fancy as yours but I do have the IPod plug in. So my kids showed me how to download music (legally I might add) and I loaded up my IPod. Welcome to the '90's dad. Over the next couple of weeks, the sound started to fade and whenever I touched the IPod there was a thumping noise through the sound system. As we're trained to do (sold actually) when we buy a new Honda, we take it to the dealer. So I did....again. This time, I was advised that the cable was no good, that the IPod was no good and that I needed to turn up the volume on the IPod. My replies in this order were: I installed a brand new cable, tried 3 different IPods and that I didn't need to turn up the volume a week or so ago. Normal, nothing wrong was the reply. 2 weeks later, my radio quit completely (duhhh) which was terrible because I could hear more prominently the clunks and rattles from the suspension and road noise that they couldn't find anything wrong with either (see warranty above). Took back to the dealer and allegedly they ordered a radio. A month later, I stopped in and asked about the radio and was advised that it was back ordered. Really, they didn't order one to begin with....so they "put a rush on it". A couple weeks later, new radio installed and it works fine. I've seem many other radio issues so we're not alone. They need to replace the radio (stereo) system. Make sure they order it and good luck with your car.
My '78 civic was a better car than the one I'm driving now. Licensed Mechanic for close to 30 years now (that I refuse to tell the dealership because in a sick sort of way, I enjoy the B.S. I get when I visit the dealership) so I think I know what I'm talking about. Here's a challenge for anyone following a 2008 Honda Civic anywhere in Canada. Look at the rear wheels and the angle that they have on the road compared to the front wheels. It's called negative camber. It prematurely wears tires and makes the car unstable. Dangerous actually as the front wheels fight the rear ones which leads to instability...in Canada and the USA. Apparently there is a recall in the USA but not in Canada. As I understand it, all of these cars are assembled in the same place so why no recall in Canada? If I'm wrong, sorry but they are the same parts with the same specs. I get it but Honda doesn't appear to...Honda Canada anyway. And who really does the reviews on the cars we buy? Perhaps do a review or two on cars that have a few km's/miles on it Vs brand new out of the showroom.
One day I'll write a book and I see this is a pretty good start. Anyone from Honda listening??????
Safe driving to you Goose! Turn up the radio.
Willy
Technically it's not one of the three recalls listed here:
http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/detail.html?year=2007&make=15&model=100507585- &styleId=100804556&engCode=4INAG1.8&transCode=MANUAL&mileage=30000&zip=89122
but there a Technical Service Bulletin has been issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
See item 13:
http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/recalltsb.html?styleId=100804556&engCode=4INA- G1.8&transCode=MANUAL&mileage=30%2C000&zip=89122&type=tsb&serviceType=#13
If you look that up on the NHTSA website
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
you can get the technical bulletin and probably get your dealership to do the fix so you won't have the uneven wear.
The dealer told me it was probably the tires, but that they would perform a rear wheel alignment, I agreed. Prior to the alignment test done by the dealer I took my civic to a bridgestone location and received a free alignment test since the car has bridgestone tires. Their results showed many things off with the toe and camber of the Civic. When I took the car into the dealer for their alignment test, everything was magically normal with the car's alignment. They also gave me a BS excuse that the rear tires were defective, hard to believe and an interesting convenience for them since it was only the rear tires that were visibly chopped up. I've looked for service recall information but haven't found much. In the end I was able to get new tires from the factory, only having to pay for one of them. I guess Honda accepted some of the responsibility.
Sounds familiar re: tires but that is also a long story so I'll save you the pain. The truth is that tires don't make noises (thumping noise) like you describe. Sounds like a strut to me. It may not be leaking fluid but they are gas over/hydraulic so you can't visibly see when the gas leaks out. The gas cushoins (dampens) the action of the strut and without any gas pressure, you basically have an air pocket that slams against a hydraulic piston. That's the noise you hear. As for the camber/toe-in specs, yes, there are "factory tolerances" ie minimum and maximum dimensions so the dealer/mechanic would have ignored the angles if they were within them. "Good enough" is more likely what the front end guy said and trust me, I worked with a bunch of them many years ago. Take it to another dealer and indicate that you are concerned about tire wear again. Yes, tires do wear and in large part it depends on driving habits but I'll guarantee that your premature tire wear came from the wrong angles in the suspension. And I hope you didn't pay for the alignment. With that kind of mileage, it should have been warranty. If so, ask for that money back too. If not satisfied with the outcome of the other dealer then contact the "customer service" division of Honda and tell them you're not satisfied. At the same time, you should tell them that they owe you for a tire (maybe an alignment) that you paid for. Interested to know how it turns out.
I use Mobile 1 as well. I do the changes per the service minder. Usually near 6,000 miles before it hits 15% and says to change.
I probably will go in for oil change at 10 % level.
Thanks.
Paramus Honda, Paramus NJ
Sorry to hear about yet another couple of victims of poor suspension design on Honda Civics. Honda should come clean with both of these examples, admit they have design faults in the rear suspension and recall all 2008 Civics...and pay for new tires....but they won't, not until something happens ie. consumer pressure or regulatory intervention or worse, an incident that causes bodily harm. My tires are OK (tons of road noise) but the car is becoming more and more unstable on the road, especially when one of the rear wheels hits a bump in the road and the car decides to venture off into another lane. I agree with Honda in that the car is "exciting to drive", especially for the people beside me.
Anyway, I'm still trying to sell it so better not slam the car any longer. Good luck with your tires but it's the car design to blame....
Paul
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?s=6be9c0fe19c9f009ae98c930c2e82476&t=22- 25229
The brakes have malfunctioned twice-no brakes at all in slightly slippery condition.
Measurement of oxygen showed extreme high and low amounts in car while running. Amounts are unsafe! means engine misfire, or combustion problem.(?) Also my car doesn't start in cold weather readily. I can't drive the car-I get headaches, nauseous, and dizzy, plus other things. This is from the oxygen amounts.
Driver's door lock is broken. passenger window failed to close on one occasion.
car dents if you breathe on it.
Please contact me with any similar problems. transport canada has my case.
the dealer and maufacturer is bullshitting me, and, doing nothing.
I have not had a car to drive for TEN months. It has been and still is, a nightmare.
SR
Regarding the window and lock failures, these are possible and should be an easy diagnosis and fix at the dealer.
Regarding the dents...yes the hood and trunk lid especially on ours (2006 EX sedan) seems very thin. This is the price for a lightweight fuel effecient car.
Regarding the brakes...if the ABS engaged in slippery conditions it will feel "funny" if you have not experienced it before but if that is what it was this feel is normal. Take the car onto a vacant snow covered parking lot and stop rapidly from 20 mph or so to feel the ABS engage. Is this what you felt???
Guys, any suggestions to dampen the road noise ?
I am thinking of replacing the stock tires - but I am not sure which tires are quiet and long lasting.
Some people are boasting Good Year Comfortread as the quietes tires, but they are rated "H" up to 101 miles/hr top speed I think. Others are saying Michellin MXV4 Plus ...
Also, has anybody applied some noise deading materials with success ?
good luck
My 08 civic has an oxygen problem, and, the brakes have failed.
civic owner 08 lemon
Sorry you seem to be having so much problems with your Canadian made Civic. Enjoying my '06 LX very much overall.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
. Basically, my car, and only my car (not other hondas, no other models, etc) has been making me very sick upon driving it-wicked headaches, nausea, dizziness....long drives left me sick for 2 days.
Since I am never sick, this was odd. I initially suspected carbon monoxide.I recently had testing by a local company-testing as outlined by the head of emissions Canada. The results showed erratic oxygen levels inside the car. Unusual low levels, when running, and spikes to 25, and 18.5 at intervals.
This explains my headaches, etc. I have yet to find someone to decipher re the vehicle. I plan to have testing repeated. Although all was done to protocol and put in writing, no one seems to accept it. One thing is sure...there is something oddly wrong with my car.
To add, the brakes failed completely 2x. There have been other small problems with the vehcile-electrical, door locks, power windows. It is junk. I am so sorry I bought it.
Honda canada, my dealer, transport canada, the CEO of Honda Canada, they are all ignoring me. I am expected to pay the lease on a car that I can not drive. I do not have a car at the moment, and it is impossible . I have been fighting for 11 months! It's become my full time job.
Because of the non service, I feel anyone is CRAZY to buy from this company. I have been dealt complete disrespect and hatred from them. I have been threatened by the local dealer....the owner has hung up in my ear 2x, Honda Canada employees are unbelievably rude.....stay away.
No one wants to lose money on the car, so I have been stiffed with it. Honda Canada is worth billions, while the local owner of the dealership is worth millions But that's ok......screw the little people, so that you can be rich.
good luck
Love my Honda and loved all the Toyota's that we had. Like to keep things in perspective in these forums and to have a balanced discussion. Obviously some are having certain issues but I really believe that that % is somewhat low compared to the total volume of vehicles sold.
My Civic rocks!!
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Problem is, Honda are such snobs, that when there is a problem, they do not serve their customers. THIS is the problem, and this is the reason I will never again buy from honda. This is why I warn others to shop elsewhere.
Incidentally, the cars are not made in the same manner as they were in the past. Cheaper materials, more problems..........
.I have several serious problems, and I am not being served. they are not returning my phone calls. This is non service. For me Honda may rot in hell. I have not had a car to drive for 11 months. I am still fighting.
My Blood Pressure would not handle anything but Hondas right now as I had Ford and GM before all my Hondas and left them before I get a heart attack fighting for warranty issues and poor craftsmanship. Until I get a real lemon, I guess Hondas will continue to be parked in my driveway as long as I'm paying for them.