Toyota 4Runner

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  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    You'll have to just charge it at home. You might be able to charge it using the ac jack (if you have one), but just charge it when you aren't driving. I think they have a 12hour battery life or something like that, so I hope you aren't driving much more than 12 hours without taking a break.
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    I admittedly drive very hard and since my 4runner isn't my daily driver any more, it gets the tough duties and is taken offroading often. That being said, I'm at 20,000 miles and still have 75% left on my pads. Between it being new and now, I can tell the difference in the amount of pressure I put on the brakes to stop (it's more loose now than < 5000 miles), but the pad life is doing great for me. Now either you wife drives like a total freaking nut, or you have something wrong. I have the Sport model which has *much* bigger breaks than the other models, so if you don't have the big lexus calipers like the sport does, take that into consideration.
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    Here you go:

    1. In '05 they switched to the 5-speed for the V-6?? Really? My '03 has a 4 speed with the V-6. The V-8 only had the new 5-speed tranny. That was the original debate V-6 (new engine, proven tranny) or V-8 (proven engine, new tranny)

    2. See above post, if they switched it from the 4 speed to 5 speed between '03 and '05 I'm sure they aren't switching back.

    3. Easy. No. Different, not lighter duty or heavier duty.

    **You confused me by having two #4's.** :)
    4_1. The gear ratio of the two tranny's will be different. They are not a 1 to 1 comparison in gears 1 - 4. Gear 4 in the 4-speed will be a different ratio than gear 4 in the 5 speed. Either look in the brochure or search around to find the gear ratios. I know when car and driver does tests, they put the gear ratios in the specs. I just checked edmunds here and they didn't have the ratios listed.

    4_2. If you have the X-Reas (sport or option on Limited), in V-6 or V-8, your suspension will be different than the non X-Reas. Otherwise, engine doesn't change the suspension at all.

    5. There's a LSD in the 4WD model as well. So no different.

    Hope I was some help.
  • tradscotttradscott Member Posts: 108
    1) The 06 V6 has the 5 speed. It is a very nice tranny. It is much smoother than the four.

    Don't know about 2-4, but they don't seem particularly important.

    5) The LSD is in the center of the 4WD. I don't think the 2WD has a LSD. They do have a "simulated LSD." This is where they use the ABS system to apply the brakes to the side that is slipping. They call this ATRAC on the 4WD.
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    No question below, just thought I'd post something different for a change. I finally finished the last stage of my 4runner upgrade this weekend, and I thought I'd post a before/after pic. Oh, I have a '03 4Runner Sport 4wd V-6.

    Before

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    After

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    I don't know if anyone is interested, so I won't add any details. If you are, reply to this and I'll talk all about it.
  • tradscotttradscott Member Posts: 108
    Interested. Very Interested. Let's hear the details! More Pics!!

    Did you go with the OME lift or one of the spacer lifts? What brand of sliders are those?

    I'm particulary linterested in how you feel about acceleration and cruising with the larger tires and the V6. I've got the V6 and would like to go to 265/70R17 and I'm interested in hearing about how much performance you feel that you've lost. Of course, it looks like your tires might be 285s.
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    More pics can be seen here.

    "Did you go with the OME lift or one of the spacer lifts?"

    Neither. I removed the X-Reas system. It's now sitting in a box. I went with Donahoe Racing's front Coilovers set at 2" lift in the front. In the rear, I had Deaver Spring make me some coils that were 2" higher and 30% stiffer than stock and paired them with Bilstein 5100 shocks. Definitely not a cheap setup, but for what I'm using it for (high speed desert offroading), it is well worth it.

    "What brand of sliders are those?"

    Demello Offroad sliders. Demello make the best sliders around for Toyotas. These are his hybrid sliders (round outside tube, square inside tube). I should be able to drop the truck from several feet onto a rock w/o the sliders crashing into the truck.

    The tires I'm running are actually bigger than 285's, they are 33x12.50R17 TrXus MT's. They are big, burly and heavy. I was preparing myself to be robbed of all my power once I got those things on, but I'm pleasantly surprised. Acceleration and crusing seem to be good still. Obviously there is a difference, the weight feels about twice the former stock tire, but the added diameter actually offsets that weight while crusing. With this powerful v6 I can still haul off the line. I will say though with the big lugs and more air in the tires the truck feels less surefooted on the highway at high speeds. That's fine though because I shouldn't be going 85mph on the freeway in a SUV anyway! I was crusing at 75 this weekend and the engine was still idleing low. I thought I was going have to re-gear in the future, but now that I've driven it, I'm totally happy with the big tires.

    265's on the 4th Gen's v6 should feel fine. I think you will be happy with them.

    As far as overall impressions and thoughts:
    * The suspension difference is night and day. Even the $2000 x-reas doesn't even come close to the quality of the Donahoe coilovers. No more kidney jarring smacks over potholes or bumps. I can take speedbumps and whoops at 30+ and the tires keep contact with the ground the whole time (which is a good thing). The ride doesn't stay quite as flat in the corners as the X-Reas did, but I think that's more a function of me sitting 4" higher rather than a change in the suspension.
    * I had to trim to get the 33's on. Took off the mudflaps, trimmed the inside of the front wheelwell and had to cut the plastic off of the bottom corner off the back of the front wheel well. Got that? Bottom, back, front?
    * The 4th gen 4runner is SO quiet. I thought I'd hear an annoying hum with the new tires, but I can barely hear them with the windows up and radio off.

    * As you can tell, I'm just totally stoked. I can't remember if I'm allowed to mention retailers or not (Steve, if not, please just delete this bullet, so I don't have to repost :) ), but Demello Offroad is the best place in California to take your toyota. It's a small shop in O.C., but the guys there are the best. I travelled several hours just to go to their shop and it was worth it.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Dealer names/locations are fine.

    Nice pics. Welded sliders eh? Pretty fancy work.

    Steve, Host
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    Bolt on sliders work fine too, but for added strength, nothing beats welded. I can't weld to save my life (good with a sawzall though) so I left that to the guys at Demello.
  • tradscotttradscott Member Posts: 108
    Do you mind if I ask why you decided to get a custom spring made instead of going with the OME medium springs in the back? I am assuming it was more $$$. Is your custom spring a little shorter (I think 2" is less than the 2.5" or so from OME)?

    Also, how difficult is it to adjust the height of the Donahoe once it is on the truck?
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    Don't mind at all. I went with the Deaver because I think they make a higher quality spring. If you look at years past Baja 1000 winners, most are running Deaver leaf packs or Deaver coils. While they were more expensive $225 vs. $150 or so, they probably won't sag like the OME's tend to do. Since I'm trying to run the absolute minimum lift I can while still clearing my tires, I can't afford the coils to sag and cause the tires to start rubbing where they previously didn't. Also, I would rather spend $225 once than $150 twice. The adage "lift as much as you have to, but no more" is a good one to follow.

    As far as adjusting the Donahoe's once they are on the truck, I don't have first hand knowledge (because I just used the factory setting of 2"), but from what I've heard from various owners you can adjust them with the tires still on. Loosen the top bolts and use the spanner wrench to adjust. The one point to add is that although the 4runner coils can be adjusted up to 3" of lift, 2.5" should be the maximum setting to preserve life of the shock.
  • tayotayo Member Posts: 3
    I have been thorugh all of the specifications between the 05 and 06 and even test drove an 06 SR5 2wd V8....very nice imo. Now when I compare the 2 vehicles on paper, there does not seem to be too much difference. Is this the case or am I missing something? Is the body and look the same? How about the interior?
  • nedzelnedzel Member Posts: 787
    06 body changed, particularly around front grill. Also has an aux port for IPOD/MP3 player.
  • nippononlynippononly Member Posts: 12,555
    are minimal though - my local dealer had an '05 parked right next to an '06, and even looking at them head on and side by side, it was hard to see the differences.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • gostrosgostros Member Posts: 10
    what type of wire must you purchase to connect an ipod to the aux jack in the 2006 4Runner?
  • kysersose4kysersose4 Member Posts: 25
    a female to female headphone cord...also you'll need a power cord to charge if you're on long trips....I personally think the '06 is well worth it. The exterior changes are great, the power seats and aux audio inputs also add to the value. I ordered an '06 last weekend, I am getting it in mid December!
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    I think you meant male/male headphone cord.
  • zekelanderzekelander Member Posts: 1
    Im having the same problem with my 90 4runner. I changed the MC also, with no results. i've been told its the load sensing proportioning valve located above the right rear wheel. When I bled the brakes after changing the master cylinder the only brake that would bleed was the right rear. Im trying to obtain this sensing valve but because of the specific specs on the part you can only get it from the dealer parts storre. They run about $150. in the Haynes manual it says to let a mechanic work the problem because there are special tools required. Let me know what you find.
  • tribstertribster Member Posts: 20
    I have a 2005 4Runner. Does anyone know how to turn the lock/unlock beep ON and OFF. Is this an easy procedure where I can do it myself or do I have to take it to the dealer? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  • batmansctsbatmanscts Member Posts: 63
    Are you talking about the horn beeping when you lock/unlock the doors with the remote control? If so, you select or turn off the beeping option some Japanese models by holding the "open" button for about 20 seconds when unlocking the car. If that doesn't work, check the section on security or door locks in the owners manual.
  • tribstertribster Member Posts: 20
    Thanks for the response. No the horn never sounds when locking/unlocking the truck. It's a BEEP sound... one for lock and two for unlock. The owner's manual says that I need to see the dealer to get this turned off or changed. I did not want to pay extra for them to do it if there was way for me to do it myself. Thanks.
  • yaroshyarosh Member Posts: 14
    i had the same questions, bought the x-reas, really love it.
  • navguy1navguy1 Member Posts: 181
    The only vehicle with the same navigation system is the 06MY Sienna. It offers Bluetooth, an enhanced voice recognition engine and the newest operating system available from Toyota. ;)
  • navguy1navguy1 Member Posts: 181
    The all-in-one units are great! Several of Toyota's vehicles utilize a double-din unit as do several aftermarket companies. The units from Kenwood and Eclipse both feature systems that are very similar to Toyota's.

    If you decide to get one be sure the business is reputable. Not only is the product important but the installation is arguably more important. A professional installer is important.... prevents your car from being hacked up. ;)
  • navguy1navguy1 Member Posts: 181
    The most current version is 4.1. The next update, V5.1, ;) will occur in January of 2006.
  • chuck1chuck1 Member Posts: 1,405
    One of the most popular upgrades on another BB regarding the 4Runner Radio is to upgrade using the SCION Radio. These can be had on ebay for about $100.00. I have an '05 Scion radio in my 4Rynner ('05 Sport) I put in about three months ago. Please note it is "plug and play". This unit is made by Pioneer and sounds real good. It also plays MP3's and is satellite ready!

    GOOD LUCK!
  • lazzarichlazzarich Member Posts: 37
    I have the 10 speaker system in my '05 Sport Edition. Is the SCION an upgrade to this system.
  • mengle75mengle75 Member Posts: 2
    Hello,
    I have a dumb question for the list (my last dumb question, i promise, sorry just bought a new 4runner last week). I was playing (ok testing) around with the H2/H4/L4 dial (while parked in my driveway) on the dash, and accidentally put it in L4 without stepping on the brake or putting in neutral beforehand. Would this cause any kind of damage to the 4wd system, even though I was in park and wasn't moving? Everything seems to be fine, but just checking...The owners manual is very vague on this and I wanted to see if anyone knew on here...thanks in advance for your help...
  • kheintz1kheintz1 Member Posts: 213
    I own an '03, V8, AWD 4Runner Limited, and as I recall, the onboard computer will not allow you to enter the 4-Low mode unless you've first completed the necessary preliminary steps. However, I'm speaking only from memory here, and you should verify what I'm saying.

    Also, use 4-low only when all 4 tires can freely slip (snow, ice, mud, sand, etc.) and don't exceed 20-25 MPH while in 4-Low.
  • nedzelnedzel Member Posts: 787
    I seriously doubt any damage was done.
  • tradscotttradscott Member Posts: 108
    It won't cause any problems to be in 4 low on pavement. As long as you don't engage the center differential lock, you can be in 4low or 4hi with no problems. Putting it in low does not automatically engage the diff lock.
  • jaredmsdjaredmsd Member Posts: 127
    You didn't damage a thing. I put mine in 4 low all the time, but always while in neutral. I didn't even know you could engage 4-lo in park (learn something new every day). Like someone else said, it's safe to drive in 4-Lo. Try it sometime, you will be hard pressed to get the vehicle much over 15mph. The shift are also pretty violent, but also non-damaging. The only thing you shouldn't do, unless you are on soft/loose stuff is engage the diff lock.

    I offroad a lot and stay mostly in 4-lo, it gives you the slow speed control that you need when climbing hills or crawling over things.
  • bostonmarkbostonmark Member Posts: 1
    I recently purchased a 2004 toyota 4 runner sport with the 4.7 V8. From what i understand the engine puts out about 235 hp, what i would like to know is where did the 05 4 runner 4.7 v8 get it's additional 35 hp, making 270 hp. Is this just a software update? or did they change something about the engine? 35 hp is a big jump.
  • chuck1chuck1 Member Posts: 1,405
    It's not plug and play if you have the JBL. The wiring harness is different. I wouldn't call it an upgrade to the JBL. Form what I have read on other boards, it costs a lot of dollars to upgrade from the JBL.

    Good luck
  • ggoinsggoins Member Posts: 57
    I have a 97 Runner with 130 K good shape everything works no problems keep the oil changed every 3-5K. How far will this vehicle go....?
  • ted19ted19 Member Posts: 1
    I just handed my 97 4WD V6/5-speed to my son and it has 150k miles. It is in great shape, with all syn oils. (engine, trans & transaxles) I've changed the oil&filter every 6-7k miles (Mobile1). Always have the timing belt changed at 60k, otherwise you could damage engine if it fails.

    If your 4Runner has been well cared for, you can expect it to last over 200-300k!
  • nedzelnedzel Member Posts: 787
    No, it's not a software update. The difference is that the 2005 V8 has variable valve timing.

    That said, the previous V8 did 0-60 in about 7.5 seconds. That's plenty fast for a truck, IMHO.
  • ggoinsggoins Member Posts: 57
    thanks....

    mobile 1 superior?
  • louisana1louisana1 Member Posts: 1
    Does anyone know how?????????????
  • chuck1chuck1 Member Posts: 1,405
    There is information out there. Do a "google search". I can't give you the direct link. Sorry!
  • dchesnutdchesnut Member Posts: 1
    I have a 1996 4Runner and I need to replace/repair an almost shattered interior right rear panel - from the wheelwell back (cold weather and shifting heavy shifting cargo make for a poor mix). The current panel is mostly intact except for about 6"x6", near the floor, which is in about a dozen pieces. Anybody have ideas regarding part sources and general problems to look forward to during the replacement/repair? Thanks ahead of time to all who reply.
  • sthomps81sthomps81 Member Posts: 7
    Hi All-
    My wife and I have two children and haven't ruled out a third. My wife currently drives a 1999 Mitsubishi Montero Sport--it has been an excellent maintenance free vehicle for almost 100,000 miles now. Alas we are looking for a new vehicle of about the same size with newer/better safety features etc. Probably will end up getting something similar in size to the Montero Sport but with V8 and a 3rd row seat. We have test driven several vehicles including Nissan Pathfinder, Honda Pilot, Dodge Durango, Toyota 4runner, and Jeep Grand Cherokee. Our favorite three were the Toyota 4runner, Dodge Durango, and Jeep Grand Cherokee. However my wife really likes the looks of the Jeep Commander and it would probably afford our family a little more room and give us a third row seat if we were to need one&#151;so it would replace the Jeep GC in the rotation. The Toyota 4runner Limited V8 we drove was silky smooth and would be fine for our offroad adventures. My only concern is that I am pushing 6' 3" and the roof seems very low in the 4Runner. Not the end of the world as my wife will mostly be driving the new SUV. The Toyota heating and cooling controls seem a little funky and could learn something from Jeep in this regard--Both the GC and Commander seem to have much simpler controls which seem better to me. Of course the 4runners are said to be very reliable which has been a virtue of our current SUV. Nothing but routine maintenance for 100,000 miles. I'm going to assume that gas mileage will be similar in either the Commander or 4runner and isn't a huge deal to me to begin with. We crossed the Durango off the list because the interior fit and finish in the test vehicles we looked at were somewhat poor and the overall size might be a tad large for our needs&#151;it did drive very nicely though&#151;perhaps a little too much wind noise but nice nevertheless. The Jeep Commanders that we have looked at have been nice and tight inside by comparison. So I guess it comes down to the Commander and 4runner. Any one else drive both of these vehicles and have some advice or other information for me? Which one did you buy and why? As of right now I'm on the fence. Who knows, might need to throw the new Explorer into the fray as well. Thanks in advance for your input!
  • nepropneprop Member Posts: 41
    sthomps81, I just purchased a 2006 SR5 4Runner 4x4 and went through a vehicle comparison analysis similar to yours. I ruled out V-8's because it's mostly hype (0-60 in xx seconds..who cares when your hauling a family, dog etc). So I ended up with the 6 cyl SR5 vs the Volvo XC90 2.5T AWD. The difference between these two cars is about $10K, with the options that I wanted, and the Volvo has more safety features that come standard. I'm in the northeast where the weather can be crazy. A lot of this comes down to personal taste and I find the Jeeps (Commander, etc) to be a little to plastic / cheap for my liking. I'm 6'2" and I have enough head room in the 4runner, but since your taller you might be squeezed for space. The 4runner I have has the 3rd row option, but it's for kids 10 and under as there isn't too much room back there. If you do your homework and work the Internet sales managers (which ever way you decide to go) then you should arrive at a good price and relatively hassle free purchase. Good luck.
  • canddmeyercanddmeyer Member Posts: 410
    My advice would be to avoid the 4Runner if it's for you. If your wife will be the primary driver then I'd say go for it. This is because sunroof equipped 4Runners leave little if any clearance between your head & the sunroof. My head rested on the sunroof, and I'm 5'11'', but long in the torso. For this reason, I had to go with the SR5 instead of the Sport or Limited.

    As for the 3rd row, I wouldn't want or need it, and if I did need it, I'd probably consider another vehicle, like an AWD Sienna or Sequoia, or even a Suburban. Prior posters say it's useless for anyone but small children.

    Yes, the HVAC controls are horrible, especially when they wash out in sunlight. An Avalon I rented also had similar controls that washed out.

    I gotta admit, Toyota has earned its reputation, but if you got in an Explorer you'd like it too. My 4Runner makes lots of road noise, too much IMO.

    I have no comment on Dodge or Jeep since no one I know owns the latest models. Good luck.
  • sthomps81sthomps81 Member Posts: 7
    Hi neprop-
    Thanks for the thoughtful response and your points are well made. I certainly agree that a stout V6 like the one found in the 4runner provides more than enough power in most situations. Although I should add that I live in Colorado at 7,000+ feet and we also have some crazy weather at times as you can imagine. Many vehicles that provide more than adequate performance at lower elevations really start to feel pressed at our elevation, especially when loaded with family, pets, luggage, trailer, skis, bikes and the like:)

    The joy of SUVs are for the combination of things that they are good at. We definitely use ours. In addition to traditional domestic duties, I use it to haul gear to our cabin in NM --ladder, tools, power washer, chain saw etc not too mention the family and pets....suffice to say that the extra power is useful during the mountain climbs that we often encounter. With all of that said we have been getting by with the woefully under-powered v6 in our Montero Sport. Definitely if we go the v6 route the 4Runner would have to be the choice. I don't think the Jeep's v6 would be very accommodating.
    My wife was more impressed with the v8 than the v6 in the 4Runner. We haven't even bothered to drive the v6 in the Jeep.

    I also agree with you that the 4Runner seems to have a slightly higher grade of materials used in the interior but I think the Jeep incorporates better design in the interior and this extends to the seats. Would you happen to know if you can get three car seats to fit in the second row?

    Both the Jeep and Toyota dealers seem to be very willing to deal. My guess is that as 2006 progresses their willingness to deal will increase with the new vehicles coming to market--even more competition with a focus on fuel economy. I tend to drive a hard bargain as I pay cash, don't trade a vehicle, and I take my time.
    If you don't mind letting me know, what has been your city/hwy MPGs with the V6 4Runner?
    Thanks neprop!
  • sthomps81sthomps81 Member Posts: 7
    Hi canddmeyer-
    My wife is a sunroof fan. She uses it often and it is a really big deal to her. Although I should add that all of our vehicles have had sunroofs in them--I guess due to equipment level they are ordered with. Yes the vehicle is primarily for her but we do use it for our various trips to the cabin etc. 4 hour trips are routine for our family. We have two children in car seats and are considering a third. So the third seat isn't immediately needed and would only be used for children in any event. We don't really want to move to a full size vehicle because for the most part I have been unimpressed with the space utilization of the big utes and for everyday domestic use they are overkill for our family. We require the durability and ground clearance of an SUV so mini-vans are not on the list. Ultimately you might be right regarding the head clearance in the 4Runner. As nice as it is this will probably be the deciding factor.
    Thanks!
  • sgwaresgware Member Posts: 1
    Hello,
    My wife and I just purchased an 06 Limited 4Runner with a V8 and 4x4. Like some of the other members of this forum, we researched a lot of SUV's before deciding on the 4Runner.

    Some of the front runners were the Jeep Commander, 4Runner, and Pathfinder. In addition, we took a close look at the Durango and Explorer.

    To make a long story short, and of some value to you, here is the run down.

    Our 6 mos old rendered my wifes G35 obsolete. It effectively became a two seater with him and all his gear. We decided to replace the car with an SUV that had some luxury and power in addition to the necessary space. And hey, if it was sporty, all the better.

    The Commanders passenger front seat is useless with a rear facing baby seat installed behind it. The Pathfinders second row didn't accomodate me, I'm 6'3". We didn't drive the dodge or ford. I am sure they would be comfortable, but, quality is an issue.

    So, the 4Runner won out. I don't bump my head on the sun roof, an adult can sit in the front passenger seat without wearing the dashboard, and two people will fit in the second row with the baby seat installed.

    We did a lot of research. All SUV's have one problem or another. The 4Runner had fewer issues than the others. This factor was key in our decision.

    If you have a child in a rear facing baby seat, I highly recommend installing the seat when test driving.

    Good luck with your selection
  • grahmmgrahmm Member Posts: 28
    I am 6'4" and have a 05 SR5 4 Runner and fit fine. While looking at several on the lot I found that models with the sun roof seemed to have less headroom. Did you try adjusting the seat? If the seat is manual there are 3 adjustments that will compensate for height. When my wife & I are switching off the passenger seat fit is good also. We have the 7 seat model and although we hardly have need of them (I put them in when needed and found a cargo cover on ebay to cover the back). We'll have the seats in later this month for a trip to visit relatives but it seems like the seats are only usable for children. Not much leg room there. Unless you are really lugging some weight around the V6 should work well for you.
  • canddmeyercanddmeyer Member Posts: 410
    In addition, due to where you live I'd recommend the V8. At sea level where I'm at, the V6 suits me fine, but climbing the Sierra's I find the less powerful V6 downshifts too often. You might as well enjoy that sunroof, because I've never seen heated outside mirrors unless there was also a sunroof, and you'll definitely want those heated mirrors at 7000'. Also, I recommend going with a 2006 model and passing up any leftover 2005's.

    Last but not least, I'd recommend the Platinum extended warranty. Enjoy.
  • sthomps81sthomps81 Member Posts: 7
    sgware-
    Very interesting point about the car seat. We do have one child in a rear facing car seat and another in a front facing. We haven't tried the car seats in the Commander but certainly will before making our final choice. Thanks for the input!
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