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The Prius might be fine for LA and California but is woth nothing inthe slippy road in Winter because it does not have a VSC off button to disengaged the stability control which also controls the traction. I had a Prius 2008 and I had to get rid of it in December 2008 because on icy road the engine simply stop to avoid the front wheel from slippering . Th Insight LX does not have such a stupid system and on the EX you have a disengaging buton to cancel it and drive on icy road.
The Prius might be fine for LA and California but is worth nothing in the slippy road in Winter because it does not have a VSC off button to disengage the stability control which also controls the traction. I had a Prius 2008 and I had to get rid of it in December 2008 because on icy road the engine simply stopped to avoid the front wheel from slippering . The Insight LX does not have such a stupid system and on the EX you have a disengaging buton to cancel it and drive on icy road.
dweiser,
Why do you regret purchasing the Insight aside from a few negative reviews and poor sales?
I am assuming you did some research before buying the Insight. After all, buying a car is a pretty big investment. I don't understand why you're so disgruntled in the car on which you must have done some serious research before laying down the big cash.
I have the Insight, too, and I don't regret it. The car has been growing on me, and it's a nice feeling to have a unique hybrid with great mpg that isn't so commonplace.
Danny
from the Insight. Honda will not let go at the Insight for a long while.The posting you read is a fake . Do not worry about it. I had to get rid of a Prius 2008 because it would not travel on Icy roads (the prolem is the same on the Prius 2010 and I am now buying and Insight because it has what is need for the Winter).
P.S.: The car only has 2,000 miles on it. I expect the mileage to improve after I get 3,000-5,000 miles on it.
BTW, I have to ask you...a Prius gets even better MPG, and costs just a little bit more if your Insight is the EX.(Who would get one without cruise control?)...so why the Honda over the proven excellence of the Prius?
It's fun reading the Prius People rant on our Insight blog Guess they have to knock the competition for the extra $4k.
While it doesn't have blazing acceleration, the car accelerates more than adequately and can cruise at 70-80mph. Firm ride but not uncomfortable. Unlike what I read, the car isn't noisy. Decent MPG so far (40's in town; 50 on the highway). Handles better than what i drove before. And it didn't cost over $22K for the EX. The only complaint I read about that I found valid? Poor visibility out the rear window.
So there's a moral to the story: Don't believe everything you read.
I'm glad for you. I don't believe everything I read either!
The only two things I's add to the EX, speaking for myself, is an aftermarket power sunroof and a powered subwoofer for the audio system.
I don't think that the current Insight is a loser machine, as some would lead anyone to believe. No way!
Good luck!
Peace!<-AladdinSane<- :shades: -
I just bought a Kia Soul but came very close to buying the Honda Insight. I previously had a company owned 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid that I put 25,000 miles on. I was very happy with the HCH but regretted that it did not have a hatch-back or folding rear seats.
The new Honda Insight is basically an HCH with hatchback and folding rear seats so I think it should be a great car. The technology is proven and should provide a good car.
Over the 25,000 miles that I drove the HCH, I averaged 39 mph. Better in summer, worse in winter, better in some driving conditions, worse in others, but 39 mph average over 25,000 miles which I thought was remarkable.
From all the reviews I have been reading, I think the Insight should get significantly better gas mileage than the HCH.
For these reasons, I think the Honda Insight is a great car.
Oh yeah, the reason I got a Kia Soul is that I want my wife to drive it around town because it gets much better mileage than her Hyundai Santa Fe. She could accept the switch to the Soul but the Insight was just too much for her. I take the subway to work and drive very little so the Insight would have gotten very good mileage for almost no miles. The Soul will get good mileage (compared to the Santa Fe) for quite a few more miles.
Compared to the subaru, the ride is very quiet which I love. It's only loud with excelleration and cruises just fine on the highway.
I wish the gas tank was bigger so that I didn't have to fill up so frequently. Hate the visibility, but am getting used to it and feel that I can change lanes safely now.
I really like the climate control systems. The radio controls are a bit out of reach for my short arms. Shockingly, I can't set the headlights to turn off automatically.
Overall, I'm guardedly satisfied
Anyone else have this going on? What's up with it?
My only Prius concern from what I read, the ESC which can not be disengaged.I can see that would be a serious problem for a hybrid.My Kia has it,but I can disengage at will.
I think there is an "Insight vs. Prius" discussion here someplace, though.
Bet he doesn't even have one.
I've had the opposite experience myself with my new Insight. I'm very comfortable in it and enjoy driving it. I commute ~75 miles/day. My overall *calculated* gas mileage is 50.1 mpg.
I also came from a Honda Fit (which I also liked), but for my needs and uses, the Insight suits me much better. Buying a car is such a high-dollar and long-term decision that we should really research it thoroughly and do LOTS OF TEST DRIVES! Even with all of that, it is possible to make a wrong purchase decision because our emotions get involved in the choice.
I made a mistake myself of buying a Toyota Tacoma about 10 years ago. Although it was an ok vehicle of itself, it didn't suit my commuting needs. I hated it the discomfort and safety issues of it, and after 2 accidents and a near third one (which I blame on the handling and poor visibility), I got rid of it.
For everyone who is considering the new Insight -- I will say that it has really exceeded my expectations.
I bought the car for economy, reliability, comfort, convenience & safety features (like VSA and NAV). I like the looks of it and plan to keep it for 5 or 6 years.
It's not as roomy as an SUV, or quick as a Civic Si or as fancy as a TL, but that doesn't bother me. The car meets my criteria and is well-made and designed. I've never had a bad Honda, unfortunately I can't say that about some other makes/models that I've owned.
I was thinking of using the regular mode for city driving and the ECON for highways.Would that make sense?
Haven't test driven it yet but I am still very interested in this car for 2 reasons:
firstly, the price is decent for an hybrid and I am not interested in a sporty car ( I commuted with a Plymouth Horizon, a Ford Escort wagon and now a Ford Focus)
Please note that I also drove a 1963 Citroen 2 CV (2 cylinder car) in France!
Secondly, Driving in New England , I get scared by the reports on this forum that one cannot disengage the "Vehicle Stability Control" on the Prius but it can be done on the Insight!
So, when my Focus dies, I am still thinking to get the Insight.
I went to the car dealer last night. Check the hood, metal (good, not plastic like Smart car). Opened the door and the door felt too light. Okay, economical so I moved on. Sat in, not bad. Unique but in a good way, a very nice lay out. Then sat on the back seat. Now, keep in mind, I'm only 5'8". My head touched the ceiling. No, I don't have big set of hair, in fact, I'm practically bald. So there
's hardly a head room for someone even at my height.
Test drove. Nice handling. Power is adequate. Got to be patient when it comes to speed up to merge, etc. Road noise seemed excessive, not enough insolation.
Asked for the price. $500 off MSRP was the best they could do. Too hot they said.
I really wanted to like it because it unique looking car and it is Honda. But the look alone could not pass the quality and price in my book. So that 2009 Honda Civic LX-S is looking really good now.
Saving $120 per year on gas Civic vs. Insight did not justify for me to pay extra to purchase the Insight.
The MPG on the car is about 2-3 better than the real thing.
I am very happy with the car, I am surprised at those who, because there are some negative comments, feel the need to get rid of theirs. I liked the style and I like the performance (well, for a hybrid) what anyone else thinks is really irrelevant as long as Honda stand by their warranty I am going to be happy. We bought ours because I wanted a hybrid and we much prefer our Honda dealership (we have 2 CRVs).
2010 CR-V was invoice ($27,388.00 OTD ) with all taxes and fee's such as the florida Dealer fee of $599.00.
What the reviews had right: one thing only...the acceleration. Yes, the car accelerates slowly, but it's a hybrid, what do you expect. Having taken the car on several long trips (Jersey shore, NC shore), power is still adequate to reach cruising speed safety and adequately. No turbocharged engine under the hood though.
Where the reviews are wrong:
Economy: car gets 44 mpg in city traffic, 50mpg at 70 mph cruise, and 62 mpg at 45-50 mph (highest mileage yet, and no "hypermiling", just normal driving). Maybe not Pruis-level, but I'm happy, even surprised. The auto-stop function took a bit getting used to, but having the car for a while, I only think about the gas not being wasted.
Comfort: At first, seats seemed uncomfortable, but with two long trips concluded (including a 1000 mile round-trip, no backaches here. Room plenty for me and wife and lots of stuff. I don't understand what reviewers were complaining about when it comes to road noise. Yes, there are probably lots of cars with less, but it's not an issue unless you're looking for something to complain about.
Quality: Yes, material quality is on economy level but I could see that in showroom. On the other hand, this is the first car I've owned since my 1979 Toyota that I didn't have to bring back to the dealer within the first few months of ownership due to minor or major problems. My previous cars, all assembled in Europe, put me on a first-name basis with the service manager.
Handling: Firm but not jarring. Maybe more rubber on the road would improve cornering but that will probably reduce mpg's.
The perfect car? No, not until they put in a turbocharged engine capable of 0-60 times of 5 seconds while getting 100 mpg, and with interior of wood inlays, leather seats, and thick carpeting, all for $22K.
But I'll keep it for a while.
I have a Ford Focus with 97K and,on one hand I want my Focus to"live" for another 2 years (I get 34 mpg with it, mostly highway driving), but on the other hand, I want it to go, so I can visit a Honda dealer and get an Insight.
I've been reviewing everyone's input and it seems a good hybrid without a sticker shock! I am not interested in a performance car and, with the gasoline price will go up with the crude oil price going up and the dollar going down in the world currency market.
The other thing is that I want a dash display in front of me and not in the middle of the console.
Correct me if I am wrong on either point.
Thanks