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http://www.gemcar.com/
Perfect. It would fit our pocked-up streets just fine. Actually, the City of Willcox is finally paving over the potholes of one of the north-south streets right by our home. They've done the curb-outs on the intersections and then dispappeared to some other project for now, the whole street needs to be re-paved when they get back. I can't wait-it's like running over little logs strewn about the street in order to navigate some of the streets in this town.
One of these electric carts would bump right over them easier, though.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
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http://www.gemcar.com/models/details.asp?MID=3&ID=309
I like the eS with a box on back for shopping. There are also companies that offer power upgrades to kick them up to about 40 MPH. I don't think I would want one any faster than that. Here is a company that has the upgrades for the GEM Cars. Steve posted it somewhere before.
http://www.gonev.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1
These GEM cars are sold by Chrysler dealers here in San Diego. This is where you will find them in AZ.
http://www.hornergroup.com/
Better hurry the tax credit may end Dec 31st 2009.
Why not drive the Lancer GTS until BYD's e6 comes out in 2011 sometime, then I can take it further on down the road, to Tucson, and still have more than enough charge to get back home to Willcox.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/1450048141.html
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/11/620001133/1
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Chrysler Gets Political (AutoObserver)
A 300, makes me think that's the type of car they'll use in the remake of The Big Lubowski.
It's (Mostly) Official: $4 Billion of Chrysler TARP Loans a Writeoff (AutoObserver)
Good background story at the Detroit News today:
Rattner on GM, Chrysler turnaround plans: 'They were delusional'
GM, on the other hand, appears to be paying back the TARP money. Whether they'll eventually be able to launch the IPO necessary to redeem the equity stake that the taxpayers hold is another matter.
Now they will promise a recovery which of course will never ever happen.
Tell Fiat if they want to sell cars here they can give some of the ex-Chrysler dealers a new sign and to wait for the Fiats to be shipped here.
http://www.cerberuscapital.com/news_press_release_07132007.html
Most amusing are the statements from:
Dr. Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of the Board of Management of DaimlerChrysler AG and Head of the Mercedes Car Group: "We're confident that we've found the solution that will create the greatest overall value - both for Daimler and Chrysler. With this transaction, we have created the right conditions for a new start for Chrysler and Daimler."
Ron Gettelfinger, President of the United Autoworkers (UAW): "The transaction with Cerberus is in the best interests of our UAW members, the Chrysler Group and Daimler. We are pleased that this decision has been made, because our members and the management can now focus entirely on the development and manufacture of quality products for the future of the Chrysler Group."
John W. Snow, Chairman of Cerberus Capital Management, L.P.: "We welcome Chrysler into the Cerberus family of companies and believe Cerberus will be a good home for Chrysler. Cerberus believes in the inherent strength of U.S. manufacturing and of the U.S. auto industry. Most importantly, we believe in Chrysler."
Snow continued: "We would like to thank DaimlerChrysler for their good stewardship of this American icon over the last decade. We are aware that Chrysler faces significant challenges, but we are confident that they can and will be overcome. A private investment firm like Cerberus will provide management with the opportunity to focus on their long-term plans rather than the pressures of short-term earnings expectations."
IDIOTS and FOOLS are leading us!!!
Why was it that the U.S. government didn't require Cerberus to use its other revenues to make up for Chrysler's losses? Hmm? Why did TARP give them $4B instead of Cerberus? Maybe someone wrote a law that said Cerberus could just walk away? - how convenient! :mad:
And Yes Dan Quayle is a player in the Cerberus conglomerate.
Yes the feds stuck their noses into Chrysler either unwillingly (if you believe your Congressmen when they know they're being taped), or willingly - help their wealthy friends and donors in Cerberus.
The problem with Cerberus is that they knew they screwed up buying Chrysler, and were using corporate law to limit their losses, thus sticking the U.S. taxpayer with the bill if they thought it important to keep Chrysler going.
This is like living in a neighborhood of 2nd homes, and some of the owners saying we made a mistake buying this, we're not going to keep our property, and you and the other decent neighbors saying "Don't worry we'll pick up the bill for you".
That's my problem with this whole thing.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20100208/D9DO9UI02.html
Aren't you proud new jobs are being created, by the U.S. taxpayer having footed the majority of the bailout? This is super news. I'm sure Fiat will close many of the aged factories with UAW work-force making cars like the Sebring, and create many new jobs in low-cost countries, or simply make the vehicles in ol' Italia.
But that's not the worst of it. Thanks to Treasury's decision to avoid a comprehensive restructuring of the company, pre-bailout shareholders in GMAC -- including private equity firm Cerberus -- could still profit on their investments, the report said.
And while the costs are mounting, the panel, chaired by Harvard law professor Elizabeth Warren, said it remains unclear what Treasury accomplished by shielding GMAC from bankruptcy.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/11/news/companies/gmac.zombie.fortune/index.htm?sou- rce=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin
Chrysler Making Money (AutoObserver)
Gas mileage-38mpg, 0-60 couple hours, and 1/4 mile, sometime in the future..
Reference a recent road test in C&D...Kinda funny, hell, the Italians were running around in these mouse traps back when I was cruising the Autobans during 1957-1959 in my Porsche 1600Super..Porsche has come a long way, however Fiat dropped the ball, and now we are picking up the fare$$$..
There is a new Fiat dealer in Sarasota, Fl...Hooray!!!!! I wonder if the 500 takes a siesta every afternoon...
Just for the Record we are a LONG ways from getting back the Billions we gave GM. I do not expect to ever see anything from the new Fiat/Chrysler venture. You must have heard the politicos claiming how great GM was doing and how they were paying US back.
GM still owes $45.3 billion to the U.S. and $8.1 billion to Canada, money it received in exchange for large stakes in the company. The U.S. government now owns 61 percent of the company and Canada owns roughly 12 percent. GM plans to repay both with a public stock offering, perhaps later this year.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/21/business/main6417161.shtml#ixzz1NVH1cz- - Lv
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Treasury Department says it has received $11.7 billion from the sale of 358.5 million shares of General Motors stock.
If my calculator is working correctly that leaves $41.7 BILLION still owed to the US tax payers. Don't forget the $4 billion we gave GM to develop the Volt. I know just chump change. GM sold 1703 Volt cars as of the end of April. Cost to US tax payer about $2.4 million each.
Can't say I know why they are going with new Fiat dealers unless they think it'll help the brand. They already had a go at cutting underperforming Chrysler dealers via the bankruptcy.
"Chrysler has certainly made progress from last year’s first quarter,” noted Edmunds.com Analyst Ivan Drury. “Sales are up 22.5 percent, and brand awareness is up. Many redesigned vehicles are in Chrysler showrooms and incentives are down.” However, Drury pointed out that Chrysler still depends heavily on the sale of very large cars and trucks. “This could hinder its progress in the upcoming months as fuel costs escalate," he said."
Chrysler Making Money (AutoObserver)
Sergio wants the ~600 Fiat dealers to have the same cachet as MINIs (didn't see the number of how many MINI dealers there are).
He wants new facilities with an Italian flavor (to ultimately sell six different models, at least in the first 3 or 4 years).
He wants to get Fiat established and then dump Chrysler (I don't think so - not the way that Jeep is selling).
Interesting rumor is that Chrysler dealers who agree to build new Fiat dealerships will get to sell Alfa Romeos in the Chrysler showroom.
The San Diego Fiat dealership was awarded to someone by the name of Joe C. Gardon.
I agree with the other points you made.
"Italy's Fiat SpA said on Friday it plans to exercise its option in the next 10 days to buy the U.S. Treasury's 6% stake in Chrysler Group LLC, giving it majority control of the Auburn Hills, Mich., auto maker."
Fiat Would Acquire Majority Control of Chrysler in Days (WSJ)
Gonna be some out of work managers soon.
So for service I would have to go 40 miles each way to the nearest suburban dealer, or go to downtown SF, which is less than half the distance but would probably actually take longer to reach because the suburban dealer is all-freeway to get to.
Either way, too far to go. And the same applies to Mini for me too - the dealers in both places are almost next door to each other, even though I have both BMW and Chrysler dealers much closer to me than either.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Dodge Hornet
Dodge was working with China's Chery Motors long ago and far away on it and everything just went...poof!
Is this the new Dodge Caliber based on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta? Or will Seattle once again be a haven for NBA basketball? Will the Oklahoma City Thunder fail to make the playoffs next year, too? So many questions with so few available answers.
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Me too, I'd take the Alfa any day of the week