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The way I see it is the point of the ACT is that it has sporty looks, handles more like a sports coupe, it's roomier, and as/more luxurious than an Accord sedan.
So it stands to reason that it will cost more than an Accord sedan.
And one could say comparing it to the Toyo Venza and Highlander is like comparing apples to oranges, in both looks and performance.
As for me, after see it in person and driving it I like it.
What do you like most about it?
What do you like least about it?
If you write a review soon, it will be the first on Edmunds.
And the mfg. recommends premium for the following '10 vehicles: Acura 4-cyl TSX, MDX, 3.5L & 3.7L TL.
All high compression engines.
Other old vehicles that require premium (that I did not list before) are the NSX, GSR, Civic Si, what did I forget?
the gist of the review would have been: We had been following the Crosstour since it was first announced. The dealer called when they first hit the lot. We went over that night and after the test drive, we were convinced. We signed that night. Great looking and driving car! We have only have had it two weeks but are still impressed. Still too early to tell on the mileage.
Like: Style and driving it. It looks better in person than in the photos. Wife likes the heated seats and bluetooth.
Suggested improvements: None at this time.
Overall a very sharp looking car and I like how it sits up a couple of inches more than the sedan.
It should sell well but I'm still surprised Honda didn't offer the 190HP I4 engine from the sedan in a FWD ACT. Maybe next year.
1. The CT is a bit odd looking, but somehow attractive. It looks very much like a BMW X6.
2. The visibility is better than I feared, but not nearly as good as my current 2007 Accord EX-L V6. The door posts seem thick, and it is a little hard to see out of the back.
3. The car is much quieter than my 2007. There is less wind noise and a lot less road noise. The only thing noticably louder is the engine, which is relatively loud when it revs up.
4. The car seems a little less nimble than my 2007, but still handles well (nothing like the Venza, which drives like a cow, and certainly nothing like the Highlander, which feels unsafe to drive).
5. The ride is much softer than my 2007. It feels somewhat removed from the road. This may be due to the tires, which are bigger and fatter than my 2007, which has very low profile tires.
6. The steering is very light. I prefer the steering in my 2007.
7. The car has about twice the cargo room as my 2007, and the room is more usable because of the wide opening in the back. I do not haul around a lot of big items, but I sometimes have to carry things bigger than my current trunk will handle, so the rear access will be welcome.
8. The MSRP seems about right for what you are getting, compared to the regular Accord. The only problem is, with so few CTs available dealers will most likely ask for full MSRP. So, at least for a while the true price of the CT will be quite a bitter higher than its competitors. Once the CT is widely available pricing should get closer to dealer invoice.
Bottom line -- I would choose the CT over the competitors (Venza and Outback) primarily because it handles well, and the ride is quiet. The only question is whether I can get one for the right price.
The local dealer now has market adjustment on CT. Too bad! We got ours the first night at sticker. Perfection Honda in Albuquerque was a great experience. In and out with no hassle.
That can't be good. I'm 6' 2" and I have not driven an RDX yet, so I'm not sure if I will be comfy and ergo in it. I hope to be able to find a proper adjustment.
RDX is more of a performance/compromise engine (I4/T) so they may have left a bit of noise for a buyer that wants that. (presuming you ment engine noise)
If you mean lack of general sound deadening or excessive road noise, that is not good.(although I have not been in an '07 Accord to compare)
Anyone have the numbers (mf, residual, manufacturer or dealer incentives, etc.) for current CT lease?
Thanks
07 Accord lease ends 3-1 but I guess I can always extend it.
Long story short we ordered the other day and setttled on a particular color, not that it would have mattered, after 2 days they couldnt obtain what we wanted, I asked if they minded if I located it and did the swap, professional courtesy, they new that there may be a dealer even one that they might have called, where I had a close friend with the car and the only way the would give it up is if they knew it was for me, well yes i found it and yes they gave it to my local guy, but all my friends informed me that the initial supplies are all drying up and that they are now starting waiting lists and the car caught on.Good for them not so Good for those that are looking for aggresive pricing.
Keep in mind that most of the public and even guys I know with other products have never heard of it, the car is not being launched till after January1st,( major adv campaign) I wouldnt count on seeing heavy discounting in the immediate future.
This is in the New York Metro North East market where some of the largest dealers in the country are located, inventory levels in your area may vary
Will post a reveiw in the next few weeks,- picking up Sat morning
will be interested to know your thoughts on the cross tour and how it compares to the pilot. would prefer something along the size of the cross tour but not willing to pay the big price because its a new model but would consider a pilot if priced aggressively. I dont have to replace the current vehicle until end of Feb so perhaps things will cool off a bit by then.
Enjoy both of your cars. Honda makes a great product.
so what is the price should i be looking on getting for the CT on the EXL w/navi AWD.
I was offered the following deal for the lease:
3yr/36000mil
$434 a month
$1245 due at signing (which includes DMV, Bank Fee and first month)
i couldn't get any other info the dealer as he would refuse to let me know what the price he was working off.
Also why is it hard for the dealerships to provide me with all the numbers that i am asking. Like the residual value, money factor and the cap cost.
They told me that the car is so new that they don't have that info yet, but how are they able to give me a deal that they gave me what are they basing their numbers on.
I gave deposit becuase i thought i am getting a good deal. They started me of with $514 a month with $0 down and taxes included and i brought them down to $434 a month.
cost on this car is 33513+ 250 advertising including destination, I may be off by a couple of dollars but your cap is 34400,before taxes rolled in you are approx $650 over cost that is more than reasonable being the short supply of cars, and dealers right now are looking for list price I would jump on it
Most states have laws regarding disclosure of that information. If they won't share it, it's time to walk IMHO.
I agree. I don't want to buy from someone trying to hide something.
If you are monitoring this discussion, can you please provide the MF and RV for the 2010 Crosstour EX-L 2WD and 4WD that Honda is currently offering in Dec?
Appreciate it greatly,
Tymo
We both like it, although the driver's seat had me in a weird position that had my back spasming (fixed by fine tuning the seat).
Only bad spot is MPG is around 18 so far. Hoping it will improve. I drive a Hybrid Civic, so this number kind of bums me out.
A dealer an hour away responded to my "request for quote" through the AMEX price protection plan. The quote was $31,117 for this model. In addition if I acted before New Years the price would be cut to $30,225. The salesperson worked up the leasing numbers and this is what I was quoted.
$900 down (includes all fees)
36/12K
$370 plus tax which is $435
When I use the Edmunds leasing calculator with a residual value of 62% and a money factor of ,00133, I see payments including NJ sales tax of around $333 a month. What is happening here? Am I doing something wrong? Is $435 for this model fair? They are asking $476 for the navigation.
We have been averaging around 20-21 mpg on three tanks mostly around town. Not a lot of miles yet, but so far very pleased.
Rear visibility is definitely compromised. It would take some getting used to. At a minimum, ultra-sonic rear parking assist should be standard on all models. It is a dealer available accessory, but should simply be factory standard. The rear-view camera that comes with the Nav equipped Crosstours is a great feature.
The biggest issue with the Crosstour is the price. This does not give the impression of a $37K vehicle. Honda has said they intend to sell 40,000 Crosstours annually. The price on these, I believe, reflects that relatively low volume number. It is excessively inflated. An Accord EX-L w/Nav V6 sedan retails for $31.9K. The Crosstour is $5,000 more. A $2,000 premium would be justifiable, but $5,000 is hard to swallow. Even a front-wheel drive EX-L w/Nav Crosstour retails for $3,500 more than the sedan.
Purchased within $500 of dealer invoice price, the Crosstour would perhaps represent a reasonable value. I suspect that in the June/July timeframe it may not be too difficult to get one at that price.
I would go further by saying the larger piece of tinted glass on the hatchback door significantly worsens rear visibility at night and this issue rises to the level of a safety hazard if you are backing up without the aid of either the optional backup sensors or navigation/rearview camera unit. Backing up at night without the optional equipment pushes the barrier of safety because the level of illumination from the backup lights is not sufficient to compensate for the darkening effect of the tinted glass. You are essentially backing up half blind, and this feels very unsafe in any space where ambient light is not extremely bright. It is mystifying to me that other owners/drivers of this car without the optional equipment have not already flagged this issue.
Never having owned a car with this limitation, I didn't include backing up, especially at night, in my test drives. The car is so new to market for everyone -- dealerships, consumers -- that I didn't know what I didn't know, and I only discovered the problem after I took possession of the car. Unfortunatley, the nav/camera unit cannot be retrofitted because of the configuration of the dash; it is factory install only. Because my car, of course, is a used car now, if I wanted to trade it in for one with nav/camera, I will take a big hit.
The backup sensor array can be added at any time to any Crosstour, and I would agree that Honda needs to make this a standard feature in this car to enhance safety when backing up.
One rearview camera option that the dealer brought up that could be retrofitted is the rearview mirror one that Honda uses with its Odyssey. I hear different opinions about this equipment versus the camera in the navigation unit. Some say the rearview mirror unit is only daylight capable and has limited field of vision.( I have only demo'ed it in a showroom and can't tell.) Can anyone offer an opinion here?
Also, someone has suggested that backup lighting could be improved by swapping out the current bulbs for something else, like LEDs. Any thoughts?
Thought the car drove well but a bit noisy and rear window visability (at least for me) does not work.
Could any owner comment on the low beam headlights with regard to how far down the road they project and whether the light cutoff seems too low to allow for good down-road viewing in very dark conditions.
what are you guys paying for financing?
thanks!
I really do like the styling of the CT and it continues to grow on me. I believe it is the station wagon/SUV for the person who wants more room than a sedan without giving up styling. I believe it is bit ahead of it's time, just like the original Infiniti G35 Coupe was.
I guess I don't see your point since hatchbacks have been around a long time.