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You cannot compare Regal's weight to Sonata or Altima or Camry- those are lower end cars designed to start around $20k. If you look at cars that start closer to $30k and up like Maxima, TSX, ES350, TL, MKZ, etc. you will see curb weights closer to 3500lbs or more. The new S60 (with standard AWD) is almost 4000lbs and its 8" shorter than the Regal. An A4 quattro is close to 3700lbs.
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However, if you have a really high performance turbo- or super-charged engine, like the 300+ hp 2.0 liter engines in some Subaru and Mitsubishi compact sports sedans, I wouldn't do it. The 220 hp 2.4 liter does not fall into that category.
Having a Lacrosse, I believe that the extra weight is what makes the body so solid and sturdy.
When someone speaks of a weak engine in a vehicle, they mean weak relative to weight. Of course if you put a 4 cyl. 180hp engine in a 2,500 Lb vehicle it is not weak. If I'm looking at a vehicle over 3,500 Lb, I want an engine that is going to have some power - over 250ft-lb, preferably 300 ft-lb of torque and corresponding hp. I don't care what brand of vehicle it is in when the vehicle is costing over $25K- a VW, an Acura, or whatever. They're all over-expensive, boring vehicles. You might as well drive a minivan and get some utility.
The Regal turbo sounds adequate. That should be the base engine in this vehicle, with something more like the Infiniti G37's engine as the upgrade, as it is a premium vehicle. Give it a premium engine, able to leave the less premium vehicles in the GM lineup in the dust! Otherwise the Regal sounds decent.
As far as the Lacrosse, for 2012 the 4's will have eAssist as standard equiptment:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/15/2012-buick-lacrosse-eassist-achieves-up-to-37- -m/
The majority of family sedans sold have four cylinder engines. This means the average midsize sedan has less than 175lb-ft of torque and about 3300-3400lbs of curb weight.
I think Americans will see 0-60 times stagnate or drop over time. More and more offerings are coming with smaller engines standard. The Venza has 187hp standard and weighs about 3700lbs without AWD. The new C250 will have 201hp standard in 2011. Even the Highlander offers and I4 engine standard.
Right not the base Regal. The Regal turbo with it's typical options is close enough in price, that if I were considering one, I'd cross-shop it with the Infiniti G37 which is only a few thousand more. I'd also throw in the Maxima at that price point. I'd even consider the much less expensive even when fully optioned, 6 cyl. Chrysler 200.
You say they're not competitors; I would say they are, as they are within + or - 10% of each other.
That said, the 37mpg hwy mileage listed for the LaCrosse is an eye-popping number and Buick will have a 5 year / 100,000 mile warranty on the powertrain.
That, plus the small difference in the FE you note are 2 perfect reasons why make it standard.
On a side note, I find it interesting that most test drives of the Regal 2.4 show it doing 0-60 in the upper 8's. Inside Line's test from a few days ago was waaaaay off; 9.8 sec's What gives Steve???
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They just tested the regal turbo on IL and didnt really repeat any of the complaints from the road test of the CXL model. They praised the German build quality this time around- total contradiction.
Use the help link at the top of the page, then choose "send us feedback."
FWIW, I've heard complaints before about conspiratorial bias against GM vehicles. Oddly enough, the editor-in-chief owns a good number of vehicles, most of them GM models.
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Even if he owned mostly GM vehicles that really wouldn't make the Regal review any more logical or fair- especially considering he didn't write it.
After sitting in and riding in a C300 that was likely close to $40k I can say the Regal gives up nothing aside from hp to more expensive rivals.
Not that YOU would have any say, but being an Edmunds employee, one would assume you would have better access to the editorial staff, thus be able to query as to why the large discrepancy in acceleration times between your test car (provided, BTW by the mfr) and others. I'm sure everybody here understands that different cars tested in different climates and different altitudes can make times differ by a few tenths. But 1.3 seconds??? I think most of us here would call BS, and say we smell a rat. Not an intentional one mind you, but one that calls into question the actual car itself (like a rat stuck in the exhaust??).
So, if you can, what say your editors???
I agree the writer of the IL road test was very, very harsh on the Regal but the 0-60 tests I've seen were all around 9.0 seconds with a high of 9.2 and a low of 8.7. The 9.8 second reading from IL was an outlier to high side for sure though.
Is there really a road test documented on the 2011 Regal at 8.5 seconds 0-60?
On a personal note, I've been driving my 2.4 L Regal for 4 months and not once has it felt too slow even when merging on highways.
Overbrook, my point is that you simply don't know what vehicles the writer prefers or owns him/herself, regardless of who that may be. Claiming that the writer has a bias against vehicle brand X without knowing his/her actual preferences is... kinda lame and doesn't lend credibility to the allegation. I don't know what this particular editor likes or drives.
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I have added a Buick Verano discussion to the Sedans board.
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What kind of real world gas mileage are you getting? I'm about to pull the trigger on leasing one in the next 2 weeks
I am filling up about once every 3 weeks which is nice.
Thanks!
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I purchased the CXL with the Navigation - I really liked the styling and the interior is excellent and very quite . The Regal is a smaller car than your TL but roomy enough for 4 people . If you are concerned with the acceleration of the 2.4 L you always have the option of buying the turbo with only a slight hit on gas mileage , at least according to the published EPA numbers.
good luck and enjoy
I have every option except navigation. The stereo is great and I like the idea of having a 110v outlet in the backseat area- even though I haven't used it much so far. Since the car is from Europe the sunroof is VERY small which I dont like. Contrary to what some reviews have suggested, the dash is EASY to figure out and should be a no brainer for someone coming from an Acura considering how many buttons they use on the dash.
There are small things on the car that arent even on many "luxury" models. Examples include the contrasting stitching on the door armrests and seats, the split fold rear seat with pass through (standard), the DIC in the instrument cluster that has 8 different screens plus the TOM that shows readings for each tire.
I may go with the basic Regal since I don't use my sunroof at all and I hear the stereo in the base Regal is pretty good. Most of the other options I can do without. The rear fold down seats are a plus for bike transport.