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After a storm, I open the door and my wallet was floating in 3 inches of water on the floor of the passenger side.
Middle seats were all wet, back right top window was pouring water like Niagara falls, etc....
And here is my thank you for trusting American Car for the first time in my life.
And because I bought it second hand from Honda dealer, I brought it back to the concession, they ran some test, they got me an appointment with the "water doctor facility" but the water doctor could not find anything wrong with the car.
and i bring it back home, it rains and once again, i have an amphibian car parked in my driveway
so i bring it back again and this time, i tell them to run the test on an incline, as my driveway is inclined
and bingo
after keeping the car for an entire week ($400 of rental car later), they discovered that the tubes connecting the exhaust of the sun roof where not connected to the "exit" and though the water was getting inside the car instead of through the pipes and out of the car.
they also found out that some of the pipes where cut too short at time of assembly of the car and therefore could not connect to each other, and they had th replace them with longer ones for the game to play in... hard to believe but...
so first lesson on this one, if your are parked on an incline when the water enters, make sure they run their water test on an incline
2/ parking your car 180% may temporary fix your water issue
but then, I got back home, the water fall from the back and the right side stopped, but each time it rains, there is still water on the floor of the passenger side, not like before but still enough so the fixture of the passenger seat starts to rust, the smell and the mildew are awful, and as we all say annoying to say the less.
But then, there is water also entering from in between the doors and looks like some of the joints are non efficient.. and you can easily notice that when you open your door after a rain and you see water dropping in the inside.
and now i have problems with the center console and the dashboard, the ac command is reduced to on or off, no variation or level of cold, all lights are gone from the center console background, the car dashboards goes on and off and/or highlight icon that i never seen before and finding anything on the console driving at night is becoming a real challenge, and dangerous while driving
Because this car has electric commands of the seat and all wires are on the floor, behind the wet carpet, i always pray that i don t get fried while driving this truck
I also noticed some weird reactions of the vehicle while driving like if there was a delay between the time the system sends an order and the time the vehicle addresses it . i am not sure if i explain correctly but definitely feels weird .
So today, I still have a leaking car with a 15k loan on it (also first time I do a loan for a car as i was looking for a safer car rather than a cheaper car that i can pay cash but not that reliable= a really bad accumulation of judgement and decision on my part for this one). went to Jeep and they want to charge $500 just to see what is going on, when they probably know more than all of us, seeing those cases every day and site on a mine of gold with those car to fix.
si i don t know what else to do, i keep watching this site to try to find some trick to fix part of the leaks as i read other comments of you guys and i know there are no recalls and this is scandalous and just angry like a fishing man sitting on his wet boat with no fish to catch
About 6 months ago, driving to work my radio/navi screen all of a sudden went black! I banged on it a few times, it momentarily came back on but has basically been blacked out since. Every now and then it comes back on for a few minutes, or I get horribly annoying horizontal lines running up and down on the screen. I've read on several forums that this is a common problem, and unfortunately the only "solution" according to Jeep is to have the entire unit replaced for a cool $2500! I don't think so!
Within the last few months I had also started noticing a gurgling sound coming from my sunroof area after it would rain when I started driving, but I couldn't really see what it was. Low and behold I get in the car after work one day, it had been raining on and off all day, and as I start driving I start hearing this swishing sound and what do I find? A huge puddle of water swishing back and forth on my passenger side floor!!! How infuriating is it that I start researching that issue and it ALSO seems to be quite a common problem!
I couldn't help but think maybe there had been Recalls issued on these that I just missed, but no of course not, that would make it too simple and too fair to those of us dealing w/ this s*it!
So I called Chrysler corporate, ran it by them and it was "this is the first time we hear of this issue on these vehicles." I asked them what needed to be done to get a recall going for these since they are ALL OVER the net and the rep told me they need more ppl to call and report the problem directly to them. Once they get a sufficient amount of complaints the company can push for a recall. Frustrating and annoying as this is, all I can say is for you guys to PLEASE CALL CORPORATE!!! REPORT THIS STUFF!!! 877-426-5337
In the meantime they set me up w/ a Chrysler caseworker who called my dealer and wants me to bring the truck in for "diagnosis" so they can "try to help" me. I'm not completely confident that they're not going to try charge me an arm and a leg, but I'll argue that till the end if the time comes, I'm done dumping money into this vehicle. Worst purchase ever!
Good luck!
I too have a 2006 Commander Hemi; I purchased it new. My car first stalled on the highway after two years; my gauge said I had a quarter tank left. However, the sending unit malfunctioned and I was on empty. Fixed under warranty. Then the Trans Over Temp warning kept coming on. For several months the Temp light would come on at random and the car would stall; sometimes at low speeds, sometimes on the highway doing 60MPH! The dealership replaced the sensor and it still came on and still stalled. Then they hardwired the Temp sensor to the ECU. Still came on. Then a Trans specialist at the dealer looked at it; the transmission was actually overheating; the Trans pump was failing causing the care to Trans to overheat and make the car stall. They dropped the transmission, rebuilt it and it stalls no more. However, the car intermittently does not start. This they cannot figure out.
The new issue, which was discovered a few months ago was the exhaust manifolds are warped and both have broken bolts. New forged manifolds won't be in until Sept 24, 2012. They know there is a problem with this so I we get yours checked. The excessive heat in the engine compartment has caused the paint to peel on the hood. It appears as bubbles and when you touch them the paint falls off revealing a white powder.
But the next time it rained I discovered a flooded floor board on the passenger side. I took the '06 Commander Limited to the dealer and he got it fixed.
I told him I was very skeptical because of all the complaints I had read on the internet and wanted to know if the dealership guaranteed the work. He said yes and then took me into the parking lot and ran lots of water all over the sunroof. No leaks.
I asked him to tell me what he did. I told him I wanted to post it on the internet. It has been about 3 months ago that he did the fix and there have been at least 6 or 7 rain storms since then and no signs of leaking. So I am finally posting what he told me as his fix worked for me.
He said this leakage problem occurs when the sunroof is not totally in line with the roof. If the sunroof is either too high or too low it compresses the gasket either too little or too much leading to leaks. To correct the problem first you need to place the sunroof in the "vent" position. Then look for 2 (two) allen screws on both the right and left sides of the sunroof. On my Jeep they are silver in color and easy to see against all the other black trim and rubber. Loosen the screws and make the necessary adjustments. He said this might take several attempts to get the sunroof perfectly in line with the rest of the roof.
I hope this is an easy fix. It sounds simple enough but then I didn't have to do it. Good luck.
The "blue tube" issue is a piece of cake, and if anyone charged you $250 to blow it out, they ripped you off! It doesn't even require any tools! The problem isn't the tube, but the grommet in the floor the tube plugs into. It is crimped at the end and gets plugged up from debris from the road. The water can't drain and overflows the catch pan of the sunroof, into your roof liner, down the b-pillars to the dash and floor pan.
Just pull the door kick plate(snapped on by clips) then pull the side molding from the under dash foot area, by pulling from the front toward the back. Held on by two clips as well. This will reveal the "blue tube". Lift up carpet to see black rubber grommet the tube goes into. It's soft rubber, so pull tube out of grommet, and then the grommet out of floor pan. The end of the grommet is crimped and exposed to the undercarriage, so it needs to be cleaned off. Then, just blow into the tube ( or use air compressor), to move any debris out. Open sunroof and clean out any leaves or dirt out of the pan and away from the drain holes in the front corners of the sunroof pan.
Took less than 15min. Poor design but easy fix.
Also may want to peel the tape from the drain holes in the bottom of the doors. Mine were also collecting water. Hope it helps!
I have never had leaks before but based on all of these posts it's clear I am not alone. Now the radio comes on but there is no sound at all.
Had generally had a good experience other than horrendous gas mileage and a windshield that seems to be a magnet for every pebble out there.
Will check the drain tubes but I fear the radio is toast. There should be a recall for this.
Carpets are molded.
Recently, the front windows do not open and the radio does not shut off when I turn off the car.
I have 1 more month on the lease, and I am dreading turn in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud-ny29vBlI
i would recommend you to lift carpet and sub insulation on both driver and passenger front floor and look for leaks.
The issue is most of the wiring is going on the floor for all front dash commands and seats and if it is in the water, then you start to have some of the issues like radio not working, heater not functioning properly, etc...
one of the fix I found is the blue pipe (drain) going vertically from dashboard to floor along the main structure of the car. this is the drain of the sun roof and this pipe is cut too short, so, instead of pouring the excess of water outside from the hole on the floor, it pours inside and fill up your car with water.
the fix is easy ; go to home depot or Lowes and buy a clear flexible tube just on size up of the blue pipe so you can insert the blue pipe onto it tightly and drive this pipe through the hole in the floor and long enough so you can see/feel it under your car from outside.
but before you do that, try to blow air onto the blue pipe in case it may be clogged.
the reason i am using a clear pipe is that you can see in the future if there is clogging or material going through this pipe, which means it is time to clean it
This would get rid of flooding on the front of your jeep.
I believe there is the same drain issue towards the center and the back of the car but i did not explore that part yet... i am waiting for better weather so i can work outside on the car without freezing myself.
One thing is : don t change the joint of your door or the seal of your windshield or any of the BS the jeep dealer wants to sell you because it will not fix the problem and they know it
Keep the faith, we will overcome this, together, as a team ; we can be stronger than a corporation
I still have leaks in the rest of the car, lost the lighting on the dashboard for the heater and ventilation, the radio button can only be controlled on the wheel but i keep hope to fix things as we go and explore...
At the end, i think i will be able to un-build and rebuild this car my eyes closed lol
each time i drive, i expect something to go wrong and always watch out for something to go terribly wrong
not a fun way to drive
this is the drain of the sunroof that is clogged or cut too short and pour into your car instead of outside.
rip off the carpet and insulation from the floor, look at the frame on top right and you ll see a blue tube going down vertically to the floor and normally onto a hole on the floor and outside
first, blor air into it to see if it is clogged, then pour water on your sunroof to make sure water goes through it and then extend it and make sure the tube goes through the floor
that will fix your problem
place me on your list of folks to contact mine started leaking last year.
I just received the safety recall notice re. commander that reflects problems people within the Edmunds Forum have been complaining about since 2006.
The problem they say could be corrected by software fix but Jeep can't get in touch with the software manufactuer so they are replacing - if I have it right - the transfer case actuator.
As someone else had said the source of most of these commander problems were 1. the software and 2. poor quality components at time of initial manufacturing. (everything that has been replaced in my Commander - it's basically a rebuild) has not caused any problems.
We also have a 2006 Jeep Commander with water leaking issues. But we do NOT have a sunroof. Have owned the vehicle for many years without problems, but now the passenger side foot well fills with water after a hard rain. It reeks of mold/mildew. The smell is almost unbearable. Even if we miraculously fix the leaking, I don't know that we will ever get rid of the stench.
I saw the video posted above for Commanders with a sunroof. Wondering if there is a similar hack for fixing the leak on Commanders without a sunroof.