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If MPG threads whose vehicles being discussed come in either 2WD or AWD copnfigurations, there really should be a separate thread for each type of drivetrain. With some vehicles there are greater variances between 2WD and AWD, than others, but when you compound two very differently powered engine sizes too, it can lead to confusion quickly. And if you post ONCE what your drivetrain is, and meanwhile 50-100 posts/ 2 weeks later and you haven't mentioned it since, then only the regulars might remember what your drivetrain is, so really each post should start (or at least end) with a reminder of what combo you have.
I see this confusion on every single one of the MPG threads here on Edmunds even if they don't offer 2WD or AWD but offer 2 or more engine sizes, or # of cylinders, and since turbos are becoming more common place, whether they're turbo'd or not.
It's a joy to read a Subaru MPG forum, because at least you always KNOW you're dealing with all AWD'rs..
But don't get your hopes up that people will read it.
(Subaru has made some FWD cars for the US, and not just the Justy, btw. The first generation Legacy for example came in FWD, with AWD optional. Not many early 90's owners posting though).
Oh, I didn't know that...or what I mean is I knew part of that...I knew they made only front drivers, but here in Cda not in years and years...more than twenty..(and ya, I wasn't counting the FWD Legacy option for the first couple years).
I figured you guys got what we got, but I guess with so many warmer southern climates in the US, it does make sense to offer front drivers only. But even still, in a Sube forum, if someone has a FWD only, they're likely to mention that caveat cuz it's so rare.
You know, kind of like Ford offers with the Escape. Choices. :-)
Could be worse in here - we could be talking about Escape Hybrid mpg numbers too if they still made them. (There is a discussion for that).
The way I see it, I could picture someone buying a FWD Escape down in FL or somewhere flat even if they do get snow, and either need that extra height interior volume, and/or don't mind paying the FE/handling penalty so they can maybe sit a little higher so they can see out and up the road a little better, but aside from that, I just don't get it. They are harder to clean snow off, harder to get in and out of, harder to load stuff, way harder to wash..and often needing a step ladder to do the roof properly, cost more to insure etc etc..the list just goes on and on..
So, back to the topic, did any owners cruise somewhere for the weekend and keep track of their mpg?
I drove from north of Charlotte NC to Charleston SC and back over spring break last week. This was traveling interstates 85, 77 and 26 with travelling approximately 70 mph for the majority of the drive. On the trip down, due to the lovely beach traffic I only averaged 25.5. However, on the trip home, I averaged 33.6. This to date is the highest MPG I've had since purchase in November 2012. I figure it's increased mostly due to the vehicle is pretty much broken in(I have 9500 miles on it) and the weather was mid 70's, and I spent very little time stopped on the interstates. I've been manually tracking my MPG for each tank since early February, and the current overall average is 28.
I can say one thing I've noticed is the Escape automatic tranny is a little 'stiff' if the temp is anywhere below 50 or so outside. Most days in the winter I would have to let it run a few minutes before driving or it would 'stick' and not shift into the next gear when accelerating. This is the first automatic I've owned since 2003. So I tend to watch the RPM gauge closely and keep it at/below 2000 to get a better MPG, and I've carried over that habit with the Escape. So I'm not sure if this could be an issue for some that are getting lower MPG's. I find myself often about 50mph, letting off the gas just slightly to make it shift. Just something to keep in mind.
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1083331_diesel-vs-small-turbo-gas-engines-do- es-real-world-mpg-matter
Especially this line:
... legally, the only figures automakers are allowed to cite in new-car ads are the EPA fuel-economy ratings for the city, highway, and combined test cycles.
Read and heed if you complain about Ford's fuel economy ads for the Escape.
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this? It is black and comes off on your finger.............A rich mixture would not yield good mpg.
I've given up on using the dash mpg estimator as it's been over and under thru various fill ups. I had reset it each fill up when I'd reset the trip od. Over a total of 18 fill ups I've tracked, I'm now averaging 28.15. So it's upwardly ticking as the weather warms up and I put more miles on it. (I'm now sitting at 11300 aprox).
Please remember to tell us what vehicle configuration you are driving, so we don't need to go digging in past posts.
Looks like yours is a 1.6 FWD.
I concur.
In case you were wondering about Tim's, (since he bought one of those OBDII hookups, I got curious enough to go hunting) I finally found his about 300 posts back It's a FWD 2.0
I had decided it was either that or a 1.6 AWD before the search. I think even though Steve added a notice at the top that it is best to specify your vehicle on each post, even if you have posted it before, at best only new posters may see that. I suspect that this confusion will ensue for as long as this thread is alive as is.
I went from a Chrysler Pacifica 4.0 FWD to the Escape 2.0 FWD, so I have seen about a 25% reduction in my fuel use. Oddly enough, my Escape has 270 lb-ft of torque and my Pacifica had 269 lb-ft. (also the Pacifica weighed about 700 lbs more) I was happy with the performance of the Pacifica, but needless to say I am even happier with the Escape !
With me, wife, kid, trunk half full. i averaged 37.1 mpg. So I dont need any more tips on driving or what gas to use or what season it is.. this Ford is BS in its stated mpg, Im not the only one.
Im ready to sell this POS 200-240ish miles between fillups is also a major pain. I also know im going to take a hit.. more then what I will save in gas. It more principal now, I feel I was misled when I bought the car and it irritates me when I get in it, or when im filling up 2x a week.
I almost would have been ok if they would have put a 19+ gallon tank in it.
I'm still getting 25 - 36 mpg with 7900 miles.
2wd
23 town 29-30 HWY driving 65-70
life of the car 25
4800 miles total
Happy:)
She drives slower than I do so she should
do
better than my 25 _ 36 mpg!!!! Sorry I don,t buy used .....
If we could post pictures on this forum, I take a picture of my current combined mpg's which is 25.4. Not everybody is a lead foot, choose or are forced to drive 75 mph. Just because you couldn't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/diz/35a2d89d-3d8e-4285-aed7-25afa99783bc.- jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa479/2012focussel/P1010830-1_zpsb1d5d8fc.jp- - g
2.0l AWD SEL, ~13500 mi.
We took a trip to the Florida panhandle in Feb. Overall miles driven 2500. Overall trip MPG 27. Best MPG (cruising the panhandle @50 -60 MPH) 31 MPG.
My best MI trip so far was 29 MPG (round trip about 400 miles) cruising at 65 MPH. Just did that last week.
2013 Ford Escape Titanium (2.0L) AWD
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Finally had the chance to run a full tank on the highway. It was a round-trip with a tail-wind one way and a head-wind the other way. Cruise control set for 110 kph (69Mph) and achieved exactly 30 MPG. (7.8 L/100km)(measured at the pump and the dash agreed)
That is also the furthest I have gone on a tank. (415 miles)
After 33 tanks of fuel I am averaging 24.2 Mpg. In the last two months I have been doing some trailer towing as well, so the average could have been higher. Generally pleased with mileage. If I drove it with the turbo pushing me back in the seat all the time, my mileage would suffer. It is easy to get lots of power with these engines without feeling like you are "pushing it".
9800 Total Miles
Overall 25.0 MPG (I keep a spreadsheet - but I've never reset my trip2 - that indicates 25.2 MPG)
High 31.0 MPG - Cruising 50-60 MPH (great weather in FL in Feb)
Low 18.5 MPG - Short trips (lousy winter weather in MI in Dec)
Now that summer's here (warm weather and summer blend gas) I'm consistently getting 28 - 29 MPG cruising at 65 MPH.
2013 Titanium AWD
1.6L SE FWD
I like the prior poster have been keeping a spreadsheet. In addition to tracking the normal things, I've been tracking what gas brand I've been using. I know they say that doesn't matter, and it's more the additives that can effect the MPG, but I've noticed consistantly I get the better MPG's driving the same routes each day on certain brands. Any one else tracked and noticed this? I consistantly get better MPG on Shell, Exxon and Sunoco.
Shell and Exxon are top tier gas. I don't know about Sunoco, they don't have that one here in LA.
2.0/FWD
I track my mileage because it's a good overall indicator of engine performance. In the past 25 years or so (I'm thinking of fuel injected vehicles I've owned) I've never had a problem with a clogged injector (in fact never even had one replaced). Before then with carbureted cars I had some carburetor issues and I on occasion used gumout or some variant of a fuel additive. Today I don't use any fuel additives. I generally keep my cars until they have over 100,000 miles on them. I've had two vehicles with over 200,000 miles (1988 Chevy Cavalier and a 1993 Ford Probe GT) and again never had a problem with injectors or any fuel system issue (never even had a problem with a fuel filter).
If you conclude there's a difference in MPGs based on brand of gas I'd be interested in hearing about it. But for now I don't believe there is a difference.
BTW ethanol content in gas does make a difference. The higher the ethanol content the lower the MPGs.
Well, I have noticed difference on occasion, when filling up on trips, but I seldom fill up except at Shell or Mobile (both happen to be the cheapest around). So I don't have a good comparison. But I avoid really cheap stuff like Arco or Costco.
There is a whole thread about top tier gas...
Using Shell unleaded for first tank.
CX-5. My 2013 gets 28 MPG city/highway from day one, 6,000 miles and no problems/no recalls.