1: Unless you have a hoist (a readily available accessory), you'll find it difficult on your own, but easy with a helper.
2: If your Sahara has the optional Trac-Lok LSD you can think of it as an automatic but less powerful version of the rear locking diff in the Rubicon. Of course the Rubicon also has a locking front diff as well, while yours remains open. Unless you're going in for rock crawling or more extreme off roading straight away, it won't make any difference in 'normal' off road situations.
One of the things I'd like to add would be air lockers - I'd love to have an on-board air compressor to air up my tires when I've aired down for soft stuff.
You don't need to have air lockers for that, just the compressor. In fact, the compressor usually supplied with air lockers is of limited capacity and has to work hard for a long time to re-inflate four tires.
Thanks everyone for the information... One other question that I didn't ask was, other than a Jeep dealer, where is a good place to get a replacement owners manual? This particular one does not have one and I would like to have one for future reference.
Mac, my Wrangler is a 5 sp manual. Since I don't have the original factory invoice, how would I know if I have the optional Trac-Lok LSD? I am assuming that all the Wraglers are LSD. Is there a way that I can tell? Also, what is the Trac-Lok system?
Newbie with limited knowledge, but more than willing to learn! - Chuck :confuse:
Welcome to the site! You'll love that you have an older Jeep to play with. It doesn't hurt as much when you mess it up.
As for wheeling a stock SE, yeah I've done it and I was truly surprised at what it did. Granted, I had the 15x8 wheels and 30x9.5" tires (vs the 15x6 and 27" tires stock) but other than that and the sway bar disconnects, I was stock. I handled some pretty interesting stuff at Camp Jeep CA last year and wheeled with it stock at TB before putting my lift on.
The thing to watch for is getting wheels up in the air. If you get a wheel up in the air, THAT will be the wheel that gets the power, not the one that needs it (ie on the ground). So disconnecting has helped with that. Add to that some great spotting from friends in our group. A good spotter can get you through just about any obstacle with no or minimal issues.
Here's my Jeep all stock.
It was fun getting up there and my transfer case rubbed a bit, but I made it. This is out at Turkey Bay and I think Tom took this one of my TJ (Kermit).
It looks a BIT different now with new bumpers, winch, lift, fender damage, etc.
You might find something useful in my website about Jeepin'. It's mostly about Turkey Bay, where I do most of my wheelin', but there is also some general info for new Jeepers.
Good to see a Yeehaw from ya! I know my wife and I are really looking forward to this special weekend. Good friends, good weather, good memories, good wheeling! Can't ask for more!
Either contact Jeep via their website or check with any dealer. You just need to provide the vehicle's VIN and request a copy of the build specification sheet, which will tell you exactly how the vehicle was configured when originally assembled.
Trac-Lok is Jeep's proprietary name for the Limited Slip Differential fitted to either the D44 or D35 rear axle. It's an LSD that uses clutch plates to control the action of the differential, rather than gears or dogs. An LSD will always allow some power to both wheels regardless of available traction, whereas a standard open differential will always divert most or all power to the the wheel with the least traction.
So, an LSD allows both the independent rotation of the wheels required for cornering, and it limits the amount of power going to a wheel with poor traction, which helps to prevent you from getting stuck............which is a good thing! :shades:
Finally, the locking diffs fitted to the Rubicon allow you to lock both wheels on the same axle together preventing independent rotation, which is good for traction and bad for cornering, which is why you get to switch them on or off! Also, the rear Rubicon diff cleverly acts as an LSD when unlocked.
One more question about the hardtop. What type of wiring do you need to install the wipers and defrosters. And should you get it professionally done. The switches are also hard to come across.. Any ideas where you could pick up the switches, and are they difficult to install.. Thanks, Mike
I think you could get the wiring assembly from the dealer or eBay.
As for the switch, there are all kinds of industrial places that sell them, including some 4x4 shops and sites. Just gotta look for them, but they are out there. Switches can be found from the dealer as well, but are over 30.00/each last I heard. Other places have 'generic' switches that fit and look great for considerably less.
Hi Everyone - As promised yesterday, I have a picture of my 'new' jeep (new to me, anyway). As I said last night, this is the culmination of about 35 years of wanting and waiting! Not bad for a 2000 with 77k miles on it!
So.. how do I attach it here or put it in my thread??? :confuse: Chuck
As erickpl said, "They're out there, you've just got to look". There's no difficulty to installation, but don't forget the rear defogger relay and the rear washer pump.
So.. how do I attach it here or put it in my thread???
Host it on a link friendly site, then use the 'Img' button to insert it into your post. At the moment you can't download pictures directly from your computer to the forum.
I use PhotoBucket which is both link friendly and free. It also automatically resizes large pics down to 250kb, which is an ideal size for posting here.
Have not posted or read posts for at least a month.Tom, sorry to hear about Ross Allen. I have always had a dog and fully understand the loss of a good friend. I took Rosie (my Red 03 Freedom model) to Cape Cod for two weeks and had a great time. When I got home I quickly discovered that my computers mother board had a major malfunction. Had to get a new computer. Just read all the posts for the past month. Welcome to all the new folks and hello to the old timers. This is a great site. People like Tom ignited my old spark in my love for Jeeps. Go Easy, John
Well jrosasmc, Jeep as we know it is about to change. Having owned three now, and being now much closer to 40 (ahem) than 30, I've seen a couple of these swings over the years since I got my license. We lucky few are about to be around for another one. 2006 will be the last year for the Wrangler TJ line. I think it will go down in history as one of the best "off-the-lot" capable Jeeps ever built. Especially the Rubicon. But, since it is being phased out, the only new packages for 2006 yet made public are appearance only. Why waste new tooling on a single model year run? Makes good business sense. Hence, the Golden Eagle. I would imagine it will be available on all TJ and LJ models (not sure what the graphics package would do if ordered on a Rubicon, if it's even possible, as the hood graphics and wheels would conflict). It's basically seats, wheels, and stickers. Not a bad trim package in all. I'm a fan of the old Golden Eagle and Renegade packages from the CJ's. Also, the Rocky Mountain should still be available, and the Rubicon is a huge hit, so it will stay. Spy photos of the 07's are appearing now. If you look up the Compass, Patriot, and the already released new Commander, you should see the new styling trends for the "Daimler Chrysler Jeep" era. The Liberty is being redesigned now, probably for 08-10 release, and the Grand Cherokee has a much more "chiseled" look released this year. Jeep has been through this before. The AMC era had it's own look, as did the "Renault" and then "Chrysler" design philosophies. What we must hope for is not to lose the character and capability that we love. These changes must happen in order to keep the division alive, and the new money and ideas should be a good thing (how long could a division go with only three models anyway?). We may even get a pickup again! If you like the current model's capability, and want the full removable top, this coming year might mean great prices. In my opinion the best time to make a decision will be this spring, so you can see what's coming, and the close-outs on the current model TJ's and LJ's begin.
Hi Everyone - As promised the other day, I have a picture of my 'new' jeep (new to me, anyway). As I said last night, this is the culmination of about 35 years of wanting and waiting! Not bad for a 2000 with 77k miles on it!
(Finally figured out how to get a picture on here... YIPPIE!)
Just ordered my Hi-Lift and thinking about mounting it like yours--on the bumper. Any updates to report after having it on there for a few weeks? Details on the mounting hardward you chose? Things you would do differently? Do you think it would mount the same on the stock TJ rear bumper in the same fashion? Thanks!
Has anyone mounted a winch directly to the stock bumper and frame rails? I have a "universal" (read: doesn't really fit anything) mounting plate, that I think I can modify. Not quite ready to spend $600 on an aftermarket bumper...
You can use the stock bumper with the proper winch mounting plate. I have a Warn 9.5Ti winch and bought a Warn winch mounting plate to go with it. I think the plate was around $150.
I'm going to have to re-post those pictures of the hi-lift mounting technique that Terry just mentioned. The host site changed software, which made the old links no good.
Here they are again...
Here's the text that went with these pics...
Those are just 2" conduit clamps mounted to the roll bars. My buddy at work came up with the idea. This is a very cheap and very good way to store your hi-lift.
You have to drill a hole in that little end piece of the jack for the bolt to go through. Drill it as far toward the tip as you can. You use a bolt with a jam nut to make a sort of stud bolt to secure the jack.
You have to detach the base in order to store your jack like this, but that's not a big deal. There is just one cotter pin that holds the base onto the jack shaft.
Hope those pics show up, but the URL does not end in "jpg," so I'm afraid they won't.
I don't know what you did wrong that keeps your pic from showing up.
I almost think that you used the link to the ALBUM, not just to a particular picture. Do you have several pics in an album entitled "Jeep Pics?"
Another posibility is that you have your pictures password protected. They would then show up for a short time while your log-in was still in effect, but then they would no longer appear after your log-in expired.
You need to be sure that your pictures are not password protected. This is an option somewhere in Photobucket, but I can't remember where. You then need to copy and paste the "tag" or "img" (I THINK those are your two choices). Whichever one starts out " I can't get into Photobucket right now, or else I would give you more specific directions. Something must be wrong with their site.
I didn't know that Photobucket was having problems when I started the above message. Maybe your pic was showing up just fine until Photobucket went down?
Very, very nice! Congratulations! Don't be a neat freak like me! Dirty that beauty up!
Eric is right....you've definitely come to the right place for modification tips and ideas...um, but make sure you have alot of discipline....whipping out that credit card for our Wranglers is toooo much of a temptation!
KB2, yep, the end caps are totally worth the 25 bucks. They look really good on the Jeep. A couple of friends of mine from work are ordering them for their Wranglers. I'll try to post some pics when I think of it.
Tom, great idea for the pieces of conduit. I would imagine, though, that 2002 or 2003 and up would need a large diameter. The roll bar padding is much thicker on the newer models.
Thanks, as always, for the info on the winch mount and the Hi-Lift mount. Do you have a photo of your mounted winch handy that you could post? I have this universal mounting plate that came with my cheapo Chinese winch and I would like to modify it. I don't want to buy another mounting plate because the aftermarket bumper I'm eyeing has an integrated mount. If I could see one mounted on the proper plate I may get a better idea of how to modify mine. Unmodified it is too long/wide and also interferes with the sway bar mounts.
This brings me to another question that is contributing to my insomnia: how does an aftermarket bumper affect airbag deployment in a crash? Mac?
As for aftermarket bumpers, I have one and hit a tree on a trail (less than 5 MPH). My airbag didn't deploy. hehe
the bumpers won't have much impact (bad pun). The angle of the hit is still the determining factor. An aftermarket bumper will protect the body more offroad, but in a road accident (say a rearending), you could still have the force directed along the frame rails.
I don't have a picture of the mounting plate without the winch on it. I don't think it would help you very much for me to get a picture of the plate with the winch on it.
You might try e-bay to find a mounting plate being sold by someone who bought a new after market bumper with the winch mounting plate built-in.
how does an aftermarket bumper affect airbag deployment in a crash?
Airbag deployment is triggered by a decelerometer located on the transmission tunnel under the dash.
In theory, an aftermarket bumper that's stronger than the original will cause an earlier airbag firing than the stock bumper, which will absorb more of the impact by crumpling more easily thereby reducing the negative g-force transmitted to the vehicle.
In practice, it probably doesn't have an effect worth worrying about. It's certainly not high on the list of things that keep me awake at night. :shades:
Can anyone tell me what the hole underneath the silly looking (IMO) flares located on the rockers of newer (2003?-05) Wranglers is for? I took mine (just those flares) off last night since I did not like the look of them, and lo and behold there is hole underneath, in the side of the tub about 1.5" in diameter with a super sticky square piece of see-thru tape covering it. I was thinking of drilling a drain hole in the lowest part underneath the body so that if water got in this hole (minus the tape) it could leak out. Any ideas/suggestions out there?
Apparently it's a location point for one of the fixtures supporting the body on the production line. If you decide that drilling holes is a good idea I'd suggest taking appropriate measures for corrosion prevention.
If like me, and you don't like the look of the stock front/rear bumper on your TJ, and opt to take off those "plastic inserts" you might find yourself asking this question.....is there a "cap" out there or "insert" to close off the end of the bumpers? If so, can anyone direct me to a website/phone number I can order these from? Thanks!
Also, more insight on the 4" lift from Skyjacker. If I plan on using the JEEP as a DD, I really don't want to go with a flex lift of any kind,....do I??....I am thinking about the standard 4" lift from Skyjacker....I am against body lifts of anykind...had bad luck on a Toyota with one.....words of wisdom, anywone?
Thank you SO MUCH...I just placed an order for them! I was so amazed by how much better the bumpers looked with out the balloon inserts, can't wait to install these!...thanks again...any words on the whole susp. lift mod?
For a daily driver, doing a 1" BL in combination with a 2-2.5" suspension lift is a good combination. Staying with a 1" BL and not going any higher is the general 'standard' for lifts. Anything larger looks goofy IMO and could lead to separation issues in the event of extreme wheeling or an accident.
There are several body lifts for TJ's out there and have had great performance and not been a problem. I have the 2.5" lift right now and will probably add a 1" body AND motor lift down the road, just so I don't have to lower my transfer case to eliminate vibrations.
I really don't want to go with a flex lift of any kind,....do I??....I am thinking about the standard 4" lift from Skyjacker....I am against body lifts of anykind.
Ok.......... (i) what do you mean by a flex lift?...........(ii) what do you want to achieve with a 4" lift?................and (iii) a 1" body lift can be useful, but I wouldn't go any more than that.
Well, I mean they call them Flex, Superfles, Value flex....etc, etc...then they have the standard 4" lift.....I want to achieve running 32-33" tires, as well as better offroad performance, while still maintaining descent on road characteristics for DD...
(i) the body lift, consisting of a set of spacers to go between the body and the frame.
(ii) the budget boost which has spacers that go above or below the springs, together with extended travel shocks.
(iii) the suspension lift (which I think you are calling a flex lift), that comprises new springs, shocks, axle relocation components, and probably a transfer case lowering kit.
To do things properly a suspension lift is the way to go. There are many out there and price is often an indicator of quality. Anything up to 3" is fairly easy, but above that some serious extra money has to be spent on driveline components to compensate for the increased angles.
To be able to use full axle articulation with 33"x 10.5" tires you will need at least 4" of lift. The best way to achieve that without driveline problems (hopefully), is a 3" suspension lift plus a 1" body lift.
here are some pics of my winch,, not sure if they are what you need...
most winches (from what I hear) are designed to fit warn mounts, and most mounts are designed to fit warn winches,, my winch mount uses one of the bolts for the sway bar mounts. I moved the tow hooks to the opposite side, so they weren't behind the upright part of the winch mount, then had to move the lights over ( and drill a couple holes in the bumper )
as long as you got a plate to fit your model jeep, I'll bet you will be ok.
i'm running 33's with 3.5" Rubicon Superflex and 1" body lift.
things you are going to want to consider, decreased gas mileage, decreased acceleration, decreased engine braking.
that said, I love my jeep and wouldn't change a thing I've done. when there is an extra chuck of $$ in the checkbook and the jeep's paid down further I'll probably do alot more wheel'n and have it regeared and lockers installed, which should bring back the acceleration and engine braking.
jeff
I love parking next to a stock jeep, the lifted unlimited looks like the big brother.
Comments
2: If your Sahara has the optional Trac-Lok LSD you can think of it as an automatic but less powerful version of the rear locking diff in the Rubicon. Of course the Rubicon also has a locking front diff as well, while yours remains open. Unless you're going in for rock crawling or more extreme off roading straight away, it won't make any difference in 'normal' off road situations.
You don't need to have air lockers for that, just the compressor. In fact, the compressor usually supplied with air lockers is of limited capacity and has to work hard for a long time to re-inflate four tires.
Thanks - Chuck
Newbie with limited knowledge, but more than willing to learn! - Chuck :confuse:
mac24, "Jeep Wrangler" #19646, 14 Sep 2005 11:32 am
Enjoy the new ride!
Steve, Host
As for wheeling a stock SE, yeah I've done it and I was truly surprised at what it did. Granted, I had the 15x8 wheels and 30x9.5" tires (vs the 15x6 and 27" tires stock) but other than that and the sway bar disconnects, I was stock. I handled some pretty interesting stuff at Camp Jeep CA last year and wheeled with it stock at TB before putting my lift on.
The thing to watch for is getting wheels up in the air. If you get a wheel up in the air, THAT will be the wheel that gets the power, not the one that needs it (ie on the ground). So disconnecting has helped with that. Add to that some great spotting from friends in our group. A good spotter can get you through just about any obstacle with no or minimal issues.
Here's my Jeep all stock.
It was fun getting up there and my transfer case rubbed a bit, but I made it. This is out at Turkey Bay and I think Tom took this one of my TJ (Kermit).
It looks a BIT different now with new bumpers, winch, lift, fender damage, etc.
-Paul
Congratulations!
Yeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm really happy for you.
You might find something useful in my website about Jeepin'. It's mostly about Turkey Bay, where I do most of my wheelin', but there is also some general info for new Jeepers.
http://home.earthlink.net/~tsjay49/
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
-Paul
Trac-Lok is Jeep's proprietary name for the Limited Slip Differential fitted to either the D44 or D35 rear axle. It's an LSD that uses clutch plates to control the action of the differential, rather than gears or dogs. An LSD will always allow some power to both wheels regardless of available traction, whereas a standard open differential will always divert most or all power to the the wheel with the least traction.
So, an LSD allows both the independent rotation of the wheels required for cornering, and it limits the amount of power going to a wheel with poor traction, which helps to prevent you from getting stuck............which is a good thing! :shades:
Finally, the locking diffs fitted to the Rubicon allow you to lock both wheels on the same axle together preventing independent rotation, which is good for traction and bad for cornering, which is why you get to switch them on or off! Also, the rear Rubicon diff cleverly acts as an LSD when unlocked.
Thanks,
Mike
As for the switch, there are all kinds of industrial places that sell them, including some 4x4 shops and sites. Just gotta look for them, but they are out there. Switches can be found from the dealer as well, but are over 30.00/each last I heard. Other places have 'generic' switches that fit and look great for considerably less.
-Paul
So.. how do I attach it here or put it in my thread??? :confuse:
Chuck
Host it on a link friendly site, then use the 'Img' button to insert it into your post. At the moment you can't download pictures directly from your computer to the forum.
-Paul
Spy photos of the 07's are appearing now. If you look up the Compass, Patriot, and the already released new Commander, you should see the new styling trends for the "Daimler Chrysler Jeep" era. The Liberty is being redesigned now, probably for 08-10 release, and the Grand Cherokee has a much more "chiseled" look released this year.
Jeep has been through this before. The AMC era had it's own look, as did the "Renault" and then "Chrysler" design philosophies. What we must hope for is not to lose the character and capability that we love. These changes must happen in order to keep the division alive, and the new money and ideas should be a good thing (how long could a division go with only three models anyway?).
We may even get a pickup again! If you like the current model's capability, and want the full removable top, this coming year might mean great prices. In my opinion the best time to make a decision will be this spring, so you can see what's coming, and the close-outs on the current model TJ's and LJ's begin.
(Finally figured out how to get a picture on here... YIPPIE!)
If you want ideas on things to do, you've come to the right place.
-Paul
Just ordered my Hi-Lift and thinking about mounting it like yours--on the bumper. Any updates to report after having it on there for a few weeks? Details on the mounting hardward you chose? Things you would do differently? Do you think it would mount the same on the stock TJ rear bumper in the same fashion? Thanks!
Mark
Mark
You can use the stock bumper with the proper winch mounting plate. I have a Warn 9.5Ti winch and bought a Warn winch mounting plate to go with it. I think the plate was around $150.
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
You might look at message #14434, and track that thread back. Tom's mounting is one of the best I have seen for a hi lift jack.
Terry
Here they are again...
Here's the text that went with these pics...
Those are just 2" conduit clamps mounted to the roll bars. My buddy at work came up with the idea. This is a very cheap and very good way to store your hi-lift.
You have to drill a hole in that little end piece of the jack for the bolt to go through. Drill it as far toward the tip as you can. You use a bolt with a jam nut to make a sort of stud bolt to secure the jack.
You have to detach the base in order to store your jack like this, but that's not a big deal. There is just one cotter pin that holds the base onto the jack shaft.
Hope those pics show up, but the URL does not end in "jpg," so I'm afraid they won't.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I don't know what you did wrong that keeps your pic from showing up.
I almost think that you used the link to the ALBUM, not just to a particular picture. Do you have several pics in an album entitled "Jeep Pics?"
Another posibility is that you have your pictures password protected. They would then show up for a short time while your log-in was still in effect, but then they would no longer appear after your log-in expired.
You need to be sure that your pictures are not password protected. This is an option somewhere in Photobucket, but I can't remember where. You then need to copy and paste the "tag" or "img" (I THINK those are your two choices). Whichever one starts out " I can't get into Photobucket right now, or else I would give you more specific directions. Something must be wrong with their site.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I didn't know that Photobucket was having problems when I started the above message. Maybe your pic was showing up just fine until Photobucket went down?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Eric is right....you've definitely come to the right place for modification tips and ideas...um, but make sure you have alot of discipline....whipping out that credit card for our Wranglers is toooo much of a temptation!
Randy
Tom, great idea for the pieces of conduit. I would imagine, though, that 2002 or 2003 and up would need a large diameter. The roll bar padding is much thicker on the newer models.
Thanks, as always, for the info on the winch mount and the Hi-Lift mount. Do you have a photo of your mounted winch handy that you could post? I have this universal mounting plate that came with my cheapo Chinese winch and I would like to modify it. I don't want to buy another mounting plate because the aftermarket bumper I'm eyeing has an integrated mount. If I could see one mounted on the proper plate I may get a better idea of how to modify mine. Unmodified it is too long/wide and also interferes with the sway bar mounts.
This brings me to another question that is contributing to my insomnia: how does an aftermarket bumper affect airbag deployment in a crash? Mac?
Thanks all!
Mark
Clicky
As for aftermarket bumpers, I have one and hit a tree on a trail (less than 5 MPH). My airbag didn't deploy.
the bumpers won't have much impact (bad pun). The angle of the hit is still the determining factor. An aftermarket bumper will protect the body more offroad, but in a road accident (say a rearending), you could still have the force directed along the frame rails.
-Paul
I don't have a picture of the mounting plate without the winch on it. I don't think it would help you very much for me to get a picture of the plate with the winch on it.
You might try e-bay to find a mounting plate being sold by someone who bought a new after market bumper with the winch mounting plate built-in.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Airbag deployment is triggered by a decelerometer located on the transmission tunnel under the dash.
In theory, an aftermarket bumper that's stronger than the original will cause an earlier airbag firing than the stock bumper, which will absorb more of the impact by crumpling more easily thereby reducing the negative g-force transmitted to the vehicle.
In practice, it probably doesn't have an effect worth worrying about. It's certainly not high on the list of things that keep me awake at night. :shades:
Also, more insight on the 4" lift from Skyjacker. If I plan on using the JEEP as a DD, I really don't want to go with a flex lift of any kind,....do I??....I am thinking about the standard 4" lift from Skyjacker....I am against body lifts of anykind...had bad luck on a Toyota with one.....words of wisdom, anywone?
End Cap Post
There are several body lifts for TJ's out there and have had great performance and not been a problem. I have the 2.5" lift right now and will probably add a 1" body AND motor lift down the road, just so I don't have to lower my transfer case to eliminate vibrations.
-Paul
Ok.......... (i) what do you mean by a flex lift?...........(ii) what do you want to achieve with a 4" lift?................and (iii) a 1" body lift can be useful, but I wouldn't go any more than that.
(i) the body lift, consisting of a set of spacers to go between the body and the frame.
(ii) the budget boost which has spacers that go above or below the springs, together with extended travel shocks.
(iii) the suspension lift (which I think you are calling a flex lift), that comprises new springs, shocks, axle relocation components, and probably a transfer case lowering kit.
To do things properly a suspension lift is the way to go. There are many out there and price is often an indicator of quality. Anything up to 3" is fairly easy, but above that some serious extra money has to be spent on driveline components to compensate for the increased angles.
To be able to use full axle articulation with 33"x 10.5" tires you will need at least 4" of lift. The best way to achieve that without driveline problems (hopefully), is a 3" suspension lift plus a 1" body lift.
most winches (from what I hear) are designed to fit warn mounts, and most mounts are designed to fit warn winches,, my winch mount uses one of the bolts for the sway bar mounts. I moved the tow hooks to the opposite side, so they weren't behind the upright part of the winch mount, then had to move the lights over ( and drill a couple holes in the bumper )
as long as you got a plate to fit your model jeep, I'll bet you will be ok.
things you are going to want to consider, decreased gas mileage, decreased acceleration, decreased engine braking.
that said, I love my jeep and wouldn't change a thing I've done. when there is an extra chuck of $$ in the checkbook and the jeep's paid down further I'll probably do alot more wheel'n and have it regeared and lockers installed, which should bring back the acceleration and engine braking.
jeff
I love parking next to a stock jeep, the lifted unlimited looks like the big brother.
Oh well, it's free, so I guess they would be willing to give me my money back.
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
................and the pics were taken just before you neatly respooled the line, right?