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Thanks for input. I was not sold on either option but wanted to hear what others had to say. In the mean time, I did some research. It seems, if I were to pay for the shocks that they want to give me, costs are $900 for a set of 4 (taxes included put it at $1,000) and service is close to $300. Hence, Infiniti wants to give $500 for something that would cost you or I $1,300! Got to love their accounting department.
I agree. And I am getting my shocks put in. Do not know the deadline but have to contact them and get that addressed.
I'm now forced to give up my 4 month old new Infiniti FX35 for 3 weeks. I just spoke with the dealer service manager and he said he understands my frustration and would do everything he could to get me a comparable vehicle for the 3 weeks.
The dealer is doing a good job to help the situation, but Infiniti itself is not seeing this as an important safety issue. Any advice on getting Infiniti to make consumer safety a high priority?
Jim
Southern California
Infiniti FX45: Real World MPG
Infiniti FX35: Real World MPG
Steve, Host
Any idea the correct way to hook up the cargo net in the rear of an FX35???
Thanks!
needless gimmick to generate added cost to you.
I have to say this was the best Car/SUV whatever you want to call it I have ever owned. It had some glitches which I have posted about here but anyone who spent time in my car misses it as much as I do. Well my lease was for 39 months and 49.5 thousand miles my car which I drove daily had 68k thousand miles on it in month 38. So of course not wanting to write infiniti a big check I looked to trade it in.
My car being such high mileage was hard to put a good price on cause most available in my area had about 2/3 the miles but were priced around 10k higher then "book" value for my car. I first tried to work a deal on a 2007 camry.. However Toyota dealerships are an arrogant bunch. They offered me 20k for the car (while they had a 03 touring only on the lot with 40k for 34k) politely told them no and walked out. Next day went to carmax. Got a quote on the car for 22k (residual was 21.7k payoff one payment left was 22.3) A week later I went in and sold them the car. Gave them basically half my last payment and walked away..
I know many people have lease horror stories but if you pick a good car and get a good deal I see no problems with it. Enjoy your FX's I know I enjoyed mine.
4) Part of tech package on previous models, 2003, 2004, 2005
6) Part of tech package on previous models, 2003, 2004, 2005
From Toronto, Canada. Seriously considering an FX35.
It seems to me that Infiniti is not terribly interested in pushing sales of the FX - the incentives for July onwards is O for the FX.
Am I missing something? Are sales that good (gee, down -38% over this time last year)???????
I wish to purchase for cash and the 3 dealers I have spoken to are not terribly motivated.
Is CASH too old fashioned?
NascarQueen24
So the dealer is going to get cash for the deal either way. They may make a few points more for referring you to their partnered financing company in fact.
You could try a blast email to the internet managers of some local dealers or solicit quotes from them (we don't have a quote link for Canadian dealers, but most dealers have some sort of web presence now). Or call them for their fax number and blast a fax. (link)
See the Infiniti FX45 / FX35: Prices Paid & Buying Experience discussion for more tips and pricing ideas.
You may like the Why don't dealers want to make money? discussion too. :shades:
Steve, Host
Thank you very much for your kind post and the links to the "why dealers...". Very interesting.
I am obviously a "old fashioned" person - paying cash for a vehicle - yikes!
I will do precisely what you suggest - I like "tendering" for specific items - I tender alot at work - so it is a format I am comfortable with.
Kindest Regards Steve
NascarQueen24
Excellent post. I have been in the market for a sporty SUV, crossover. The FX35 (Sport, Touring) is my first choice.
I am VERY surprised that Infiniti has not offered any better incentives. I am looking to purchase the car, and was hoping for a good APR special by now.
Last year, they offered 1.9% (24, 36 months) and 2.9% (48, 60 mths) financing.
I have been in touch with my dealership since April. No APR deals in April, May, June, and now July. This is despite the "Limited Engagement Sales Event" promotion that is going on until July 31st. I was shocked there was no APR special this month.
As you stated, Infiniti sales have really fallen off. Yet my dealer acts like Sales are still good. The best I could negotiate in Dallas was $750 over invoice.
Here are the Sales numbers from Nissan's website. Comparing Calendar Year to Date 2006 to Calendar Year to Date 2005. Basically, Jan thru June. All models have fallen off, except for the M:
I35 -- Down 99.9%
G35 Sedan -- Down 18.6%
G35 Coupe -- Down 19.5%
M -- Up 38.1%
Q45 -- Down 53.6%
QX56 -- Down 17.1%
FX -- Down 22.4%
If Infiniti doesn't offer an APR special soon, then I have to at least consider some other crossovers. Like the upcoming Acura RDX, due for nationwide release on August 10. The longer Infiniti waits, the more time I have to look at competitors. They are blowing it, and don't have the strong sales to back up their decision.
Thanks,
vanhalenabe
of good deals on the FX. I mean, it's not
like you see a whole lot of them on the road,
particularly in my home town in the Tampa Bay
area. But I am getting ready to read that
column about "Why don't the dealers want to
make money?" Maybe it will shed some light
on this for me.
I too am bewildered by the lack of agressive promotion by Infiniti. Lexus and Acura are beating them handsdown on sales.
Using the supply/demand curve - the lack of promotions is likely linked to limited supply - Infiniti does not need to sell much more - there is a low supply out there - Does this make sense???? - Sales happen when there is an oversupply of product!
I live in Toronto and there are a million yuppies here that drive all manner of high end vehicles - only a few are Infiniti's and the Lexus RX330 is THE vehicle of choice. I spend lots of time looking for FX's on the road, so I have a good idea on what % of vehicles are Bimmers, Audi's etc.
I did read that Infiniti keeps very tight inventory control - so perhaps they are not too interested in selling because they keep limited inventory on the lots.
Infiniti products are top quality - but the management of this company seems disinterested in growing market share.
I got a quote from a dealer last Wednesday and they have NOT called back to follow up - I said I would buy cash and put a deposit on my VISA - nothing! I presume the sales rep is either stupid or the dealership does not care. They only have 3 FX's on the lot - I guess that influences them, but they can get product from elsewhere.
Amazing, a potential $63,000 CDN sale, and they do not follow up - they have my fax, office and home phone!
I am really not impressed with Infiniti so far, but, I will likely get an FX anyway.
Gee, what ever happened to competitiveness?
NascarQueen24
Thanks for the replies. I agree with all of your points, except for the marketing. It seems to me that Infiniti IS picking up the marketing for the FX this year. Have you seen all of the ads about the "320 hp FX45"? I subscribe to both Car & Driver and Motor Trend, and they have Infiniti FX full page ads every month.
The FX is still a clear leader in terms of style and performance. But it is way behind Acura and Lexus in terms of technology.
The car has aged well, but I do have a little reservation about buying a car that is already 3-4 years old and at the end of its cycle. While the styling still blows me away, it is no longer fresh to most people. And I keep wondering what the next FX will be like and how much better it will be.
The Acura RDX does not have the same sense of style, IMHO. But the performance will be comparable and they will have much better technology. They will have an iPod jack as standard equipment, which I don't think you can buy from Infiniti at any price.
If Infiniti would just offer an attractive APR, I would be ready to buy NOW. What's the point of the "Limited Engagement Summer Event", if you are only offering Lease Specials. It seems like the smart thing would be to cater to both Leases and Purchases.
Unlike your experience NascarQueen24, I have at least had an excellent dealership response from Sewell Infiniti in Dallas. I first contacted them last year, but had to delay my purchase until this year. I have had the same salesperson and good, consistent contact. Unfortunately, Sewell Infiniti has no influence on any factory APR specials.
Thanks.
and just more patient or mature, but my last
four purchases over the last ten years were
usually based on emotion; i.e, loved the car
or had to have the car. I didn't bother to
even cross-shop other similar cars. I always
seemed to buy "the" car that I wanted and
could afford at the time. And I'm sure the
deals I got were probably not very good, but
the terms were liveable.
Now, it's a different story. I have been
researching probably over eight different
model of vehicles. But none of them brings
out that emotion or excitement that I used
to get. I don't know. Maybe because they're
quite a bit more expensive too. I've
usually heard positive things about
Infiniti's treatment of its customers in the
service department, so I've been trying to
keep Infiniti in my sights; also, due to my
positive experience in the four years of
driving my Maxima.
But, actually, the only car right now that
keeps coming back to the top of my list when
you combine all the necessary qualities I
guess most people are looking for, including
price, is the Acura TL.
Getting back to FX sales, in my area, when I
look through the Saturday Tribune ads for
the lease deals, it's just ridiculous.
All of the Infiniti ads want you to put down
4 or 5,000 down on a lease! Preposterous!
To be fair, a lot of the other lease ads for
other manufacturers are just as bad.
Although I think the FX is a really cool
vehicle and gives me a little more
flexibility, being that it's a cross-over
SUV, I could easily walk away from this car
if I think I can find a better deal on
a different car.
I guess I'm all grown up now and can use my
head more than my heart. That's a good
thing, right?
On the other hand, for those of you who are driving an FX right now, you get to drive a cool vehicle that you don't have to worry about seeing a lot of these cars on the road. A little bit of exclusivity!
Love the FX, but sure there are other vehicles which have an equal or better bundle of attributes. I am happy to know the FX has an excellent reliability record (I am a daughter of a mechanic).
I will get the FX because I totally adore the style and the fact it is different from the herd (all emotional)- this is important to me - I currently drive a mini-wagon (bought in my previous conservative and best value mindset).
I just do not see many of them here in TO - and there is 6 million people in the Toronto area.
Also, I checked the dealer inventory for FX's across the entire Canada - less than 50 FX units in total - obviously why the dealers don't seem too hungry - maybe different in the US.
Thanks to all for posting.
NascarQueen24
MP3 capable and new seat belt warning.
Tat is about it.
· Standard pre-wiring for iPod accessory
· 18-inch wheel paint color changed from silver to titanium
· New seat belt reminder system
· Power folding sideview mirrors now standard on FX45
I stopped into the local dealer yesterday to get some info and check over the current models features and was glad to hear about the ipod integration coming next year with the 2007's. The rep mentioned next year would be an exterior refresh and 2008's would be all new. I like the current styel and would rather get the look and feel I have driven rather than take on a new look and feel. One good thing is our Toyota wants our trades (well serviced) and my wife wants another Solara before they kill it off for a new coupe in 2008 so it will be easy to get rid of our matching set.
What kind of solutions for the ipod does Infiniti has for the older models FX, I have an '04. Thanks!
I liked the way this drives more than the RX, and could no doubt be happy with either one (or maybe a Highlander)
Obviously a lot less room than a minivan, and I still question if we're ready for the switch, but we rarely have more than 4 or 5 people in the car so number of seats is not too big a concern. I could see the need to put a pod on top for vacations but for day to day hauling the cargo area looks big enough. I was wondering if other parents have had any regrets about switching to an FX (or RX), and also if the kids are comfortable on long trips with the partially reclining back seats.
The only way to hear the rattle is with your your passenger window down, no radio etc...
We've talked about shifting to a minivan, but with only 4 people to sit 99% of the time, we felt it wasn't really a necessity. We felt that gaining more passenger space by sacrificing the awesome ride and handling the characteristics of the FX was not worth it, to us, anyway.
On long trips, I do have a Thule Evolution 1600 that I use and it gobbles up most of what we would need.
Dave
Mandeville, LA
As a long term - 2004 - FX/35 owner (who loves his FX), one key thing you should consider (with your family in mind) is that FX/35 is a "quasi-sports" car with a greater emphasis on the SPORTS than the utility (as compared to the RX 350 or any minivan). As such the FX/35 even with the 18 inch wheels has a very stiff (busy) ride with sharp tire impact on "rough" roads [[I drive 112 miles round trip with my FX to and from work in Down-town chicago and the roads up-north are riddled with pot-holes and yet my Wife's QX4 does a much better job in isolating impacts. But it lacks FX's sharp, muscular reflexes and more rapid rate of acceleration that will add to greater safety]].
If you live in areas with smooth highways then no problem, but otherwise consider the RX, which I must say is a superb car as far as comfort and isolation. Also, If you can get passed the smaller cargo space (My Wife almost always wishes for a bit more space because even with a compact stroller for our daughter and her stuff we still need a bit more utility).
In nut shell, If you value sports and the uniqeness (over pure family comfort) then get the fx. It is also the highest rated Cross over as-far-as the Reliability (see consumer reports). I will still buy the fx in a heart-best for myself, but I would buy the RX 350 for my wife and family.
The 18" wheels on the FX are not as busy as the 20". But, if comparing the FX to the RX, the RX would win hands down for comfort. However, the FX runs circles around the RX in terms of handling and maneuverability. So, if main criteria is comfort, the RX it is. But, if you'd like some sport and handling in your babymobile, I'd always pick the FX. It is a sportscar with a backpack.
We have both, and what you said here is right on the money. Another thing I would add is that the steering feel in the FX is vastly superior, thanks in large part to its rear-drive bias.
Oh yeah, that too...
Driving it is fun, I love it. The only thing I noticed is: I need to adjust the steering wheel constantly, though a tiny bit, to keep my car go straight. Does it need alignment service? At first I thought it was normal for rear drive car.
Last week, I got a flat tire on rear-left tire and I kept driving it for about 5 km before I stopped. Did that affect my alignment? Or worsen my alignment issue?
There is a nissan dealer just 2 km away from my home and infiniti dealer is about 18 km. Could the nissan dealer do a decent alignment service on my FX35?
Thanks very much, BTW, I am in Canada.
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Sorry for the long email, but I wanted to post my thoughts after seeing and recently driving the new Acura RDX at the RDX Turbobash. I drove the car on Tuesday, August 22nd, at a Dallas dealership.
I am currently in the market for a new, sporty SUV. My wife drives an Acura MDX owner and don't need another mid-size SUV with 3 row seating. 2 rows are fine, but I am looking for something with great performance and handling. My current car is a 2-door Mazda MX-6 with a 5-speed manual, and it is fun to drive. I just need a real backseat and some practicality with a growing family.
The crossover SUV at the top of my list was the Infiniti FX35. Great handling vehicle and I LOVE the styling. However, the amount of features (at the price) left a lot to be desired. I am looking at a 2006 RWD model, with Touring, Sport, and Hands-Free.
On paper, the RDX looked like a real winner. Even paying full MSRP, it was cheaper than the FX35. For that price, it also came with a Navigation System, an iPod jack, Paddle Shifters, and a much better Stereo. The RDX looked pretty good, inside & out, from the brochure I had. We were also Acura owners, and had confidence the Acura brand.
Unfortunately, I left the Acura dealership disappointed.
First of all, the exterior look simply didn't do it for me. The "proportions" were off and so was the "stance". Hard to describe, but it just didn't look right to me. My wife didn't like it all. The FX35 simply blows it away, in terms of appearance.
I was also disappointed with the interior. It looked good in pictures, but when you sit inside it feels a little cheaper than the Infiniti FX. Infiniti uses real aluminum for example. Flipping the 2nd row seats down was not as easy, as you have to first flip the lower half of the seat forward, before you can flip the seat back down. Otherwise, the 2nd row does not fold flat.
The Stereo was great and the Nav with Traffic was cool. But the paddle shifters felt very cheap and plasticky to me -- like they would break easily.
And to top it off, we got a "Brake Malfunction" warning message during the test drive. We were able to clear the message by turning the car on & off, but that was cause for concern. My wife and I are already wary of buying a car, ANY car, in its first year of production. A 2006 FX would be in its 3rd/4th year, and the VQ engine seems to be very reliable. As oppossed to a brand new, TURBO engine from Acura.
But I was willing to take a chance on reliability, for the trade-off in extra features and gadgets. Ultimately, it was the mediocore exterior and interior styling that turned me completely off.
Obviously, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and styling is very subjective. The dealership said they had sold 10 vehicles and had only delivered 2. Full price, MSRP. Plus a $595 "Protection Package". No room for discounting, and people are putting down deposits sight unseen. So, I have to admit the RDX is popular out of the gate.
But I can't get over the exterior and interior and am very disappointed. I had wanted to like the RDX, so that it could be a contender with the FX35. But it has been officially crossed off my list.
At this point, I am hoping that Infiniti will offer an APR special as I am ready to buy now. If they don't have an APR special for a few months, I will have to also consider the 2007 G35. This car is beautifully curved, like the FX, but also has up-to-date features and technology.
Either way, I'm hoping to be an Infiniti owner soon. Thanks.
Responding to the poster comparing the Acura RDX - in Canada I saw the 1st add on the "end of season sale".
2.9% PURCHASE financing on all Infinity
4.9% LEASE financing on the FX's
2.9% LEASE financing on the G35
So, one can see they have a larger inventory of G35 than FX's.
I too will wait until the FX backlog at NJ pier is cleared and I see more inventory at the Ontario, Canada dealers. Right now, there are not many FX's on the lots - even though not many seem to be selling.
Gas prices are much higher in Canada - so likely makes FX sales worse.
Interesting - a recent review of the new Mazda 7 noted this vehicle takes PREMIUM gas - wow! Betcha lots of folks miss that one in the rush to get this very popular vehicle.
I love the Mazda MX6 - I have a 1988!
NascarQueen24