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....sincerely, Desperate Danny!
As far as the buzz/vibration that creeps up more than not in the radio area (the one quieted by pushing down on the little shelf above the radio), I asked that they insulate around the radio. They called me back and said they were ordering me a radio 'bezel' to replace an existing plastic one that tends to warp in Camry's. When I get the actual part numbers I will post them. Again, trying to be optimistic, if these 2 parts end these two rattles I will feel as if I am in a new car all over again. I'll keep the rattles forum posted. If you suffer these affilctions keep an eye out over the next few weeks.
Finally, I must say we are getting our share of snow, ice, slush, sleet and rain the past few months here in PA. My new Goodrich Traction TAs have made a hell of a difference in the performance of the Camry in these conditions.
Sad to hear about the 04s still having rattle issues though...
1) Customers states rattling noise from center dash. Please install SOP radio bezel. No insulation around mounts and found radio bezel distorted. Removed radio bezel, insulated all around new radio bezel and installed new radio bezel.
2) Installed updated wiper cowl per TSB.
**there also appears to be a known issue around a squealing steering wheel when extremely cold outside. I mentioned it and the knew exactly what was wrong: Lack of lubricant on steering shaft. Tech Lubed Steering shaft per TSB.
With a little luck these noises will be quieted.
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I fixed the cowl rattles, it has been 1500 mils and it is quiet.
I guess I must now tend to it myslef...what did you do?
(of course may be it is not the cowl and the entire length of the dash is vibrating near the windshield)
In my Camry I discovered 2 rattles. One coming from the front windshield area whenever the car went over bumps, and the second at rear of the vehicle also during slightly bumpy surfaces (though not as frequent).
I got access to all of the Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) online and decided to try to do these myself since all of the noise fixes applicable to my car seemed easy enough to do.
TSB NV002-03 : Following the instructions, I removed the locator pins for the rear and front windshield and opened gaps where instructed. This completly fixed the tapping/tick at the rear of the vehicle. I was happy.
TSB NV005-03 : This is the louver, sub-assemly, cowl top ventilator bulletin. I was skeptical that the rattle I heard whenever I went over rough roads was due to this part since it seemed the noise was closer to somewhere inside the dash. However, I decided to take the entire assembly out (wiper arms, ventilator cow,...) and take it for a drive on a street where the rattle never failed. This time, it was gone. I called up a local Toyota dealer and found that a replacement for the whole cowl assembly (Part:55708-06030) would cost $182.
I just did this today (02-17-04) and have read andrelaplume's comment about the new part not fixing his problem and that discouraged me from bringing it in for service. But I do know now for sure that the noise in the front/windshield area whenever bumps were encountered is definitely from the cowl. It would be even better though, to figure out where exactly the noise is coming from so I could insulate it myself. My guess is either at the pins which meet the metal body of the car, or the pins on the underside which wedge the windshield between it and the rubber seal.
Either way, I'm optimistic I'll get this taken care of. It's just a shame that such small, minor elements which aren't expensive at all to address, were not.
I'd like to know what canoe2 did to fix his cowl rattles...
I took a close look the cowl and pay attention where glass and plastic contacts. Again I used thin open shell foam to insulate any possible contacts.
Hope this helps
andrelaplume: you can download http://www.tt-cc.com/ratko/TSB.zip open it up and the noise issues all start with the letters "nv"
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Foam Seal Tape / self-adhesive
3/8"W, 3/8" thick, 9' Long
Open cell foam tape/ self-adhesive
1/4" thick, 1/2" W, 37' long
Also, is it cold where you are, it seems worse in the cold....in other word has your foam solution been put to the test in the cold. THANKS!
The first foam is for under windshield glass to body insulation (that why 3/8" thick).
The second foam is for cowl insulation. You have to remove the cowl body for implementing the fix. It was not hard to remove the cowl body except removing wipers (make sure they are put back the same place).
It has been proved out to work at -30degC here!
You may be able to find it at a drugstore. Check www.mooremedical.com to order online.
Solution was simple. Buy 100% silicone lubricant spray (I used Dupont brand from Lowes, $5). I coated all the door and window weatherstripping and the rattles are GONE! I tried some along the base of the windshield and it seems to help a little there too. Silicone is clear/non-staining and can be used to lubricate door hinges and protect interior as well. Hope this helps someone.
I was in for the cowl rattle again. Of course it warmed up now and was not doing it so they said there was nothing they could do. The real solution is going to be for me to do it myslef. I finally got the old 'Well cold plastic is going to rattle' speeach today. Of course no other car I ever had suffered this affliction. Since my 02 has the supposed redesigned 04 cowl (which I noticed does have some foam on it) I can only assume that either the noise/vibration is not from the cowl, or the redesign just isn't getting the job done. Hopefully there will be another TSB and another fix down the road....I told the dealer to keep me in mind should they hear something. They also adjusted some plastic brackets that were hitting metal up in the roof liner by my rear window. Hopefully that quiets that set of rattles.
Thanks!
Well folks, my 2004 Camry SE also has a rattle of some sort. I couldn't figure out where, but was sure that it was coming from the front somewhere near the window. I was very surprised with only 2700 miles, I would even have a rattle from Toyota. Oh well! Suppose that I will have to go to the dealer.
Any one know if there is a service bulletin on this issue on the '04?
Welcome to rattle club!
I wonder if I can just temporarily slip some sort of thin foam piece under a few selected places of the cowl without removing the cowl to see if it helps.
Anyone's thoughts?
1, for less than a week with 500 miles has similar problem of rattle noise described by Genego.
2, Transmission not shift smoothly when starts from the stop.
3, between 70-80 mph, I begin to hear a very low hmmm noise from the rear. The level gets higher at the higher mph. Not sure a wheel alighment problem or not.
sigh..
I have searched the boards and found numerous posts about rattles...mine has the "often posted" front suspension rattles. It's more noticeable on the passenger side than the driver side.
Anyway, it is puzzling to me, as it is to many of you, whey they can't get these things figured out. If my 98 rattles and the 2004's do to (for different reasons maybe) why can't Toyota fix these problems on the assembly line or in design time?
It's a shame, because they ride nicely and last forever...just wish when I went over some rough roads it didn't sound like I was shaking as plastic milk carton full of rocks around...(I used this reference because I remember the sound from when we were training our dog and we used this approach for certain obedience exercises).
Dealer refuses to fix the rattles and claims the noise is ok when car goes over the bumpy road...