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But, I plan to add a no slip locker soon, and hi lift jack, and eventually a lift.
These might help.
Last night's trip home convinced me that I should look into other options. Are there any traction devices other than chains (such as spiders or ???) that you can use with the 30" wheels? We spent several hours sitting with hundreds of other cars stopped on the freeway, then getting to the Gorman exit only to find the CHP had the back road closed also, and since CalTrans had concentrated on sanding the interstate, the road into Frazier Park and points beyond had not been touched, so it was like an ice skating rink, when we finally got to it, I think maybe I should check into such things. We did get home safely, but there were a few moments when we didn't have much traction to get up the hills. This isn't common - in fact, this is the first time in 3 years it has been so icy, so I don't really want to start changing tire sizes just for using chains once every couple of years.
Anyone got any ideas?
I tend to be real careful when it comes to snapping off brake lines is involved.
What about studded snow tires? Just get some mounted up on a set of $29 rims. Maybe some of the Denman Coyotes, so you still get the height? Or, since you will only use them occasionally, just get some cheapie mud terrain type patterned tires and have them studded and swap on when needed.
:-)
tsjay
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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:-)
(mine rated 192)
The Jeep Bible suggested going with the heavy-duty off-road options if for no other reason than for the extended life of those parts.
Thanks
Tell them you want their best price assuming no trade-in.
Even if you are planning on trading-in a vehicle, you want to tell them that you are asking for their best price WITHOUT a trade-in. That way you have them pinned down to a price for the new Jeep, and they can't play games with your trade-in. By asking them their price in relation to invoice, you can order any options you want, and you have them committed to a certain amount over invoice.
After getting several dealers pinned down to that certain amount over invoice, you can them visit them one by one to see what they will allow you on trade in.
This way you can really see who is giving you the best deal. The best deal will not necessarily be the one where you get the lowest new Jeep price, because they might not allow you as much on trade-in.
You might be interested in reading about my buying experience in my web page. I saved over $3400 dollars by shopping only the three nearest dealers. They were all approximately the same size dealerships, and I was amazed that there could be so much difference between the best and worst deals!
http://www.members.aol.com/tjoh298765/thelma.html
tsjay
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Maybe people are buying and just not posting.
tsjay
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I have checked around about swapping the tires for the BFG AT/KO in a 31 inch, but I can not find a shop willing to go more than 50 bucks a tire for the Goodyears.
Sears is the cheapest that I have found for the the BFGs at 112 a tire.
I am trying to talk my vet in to buying a Wrangler for his other half. She wants one, but he doesn't think they need one since their place is not that big. I wish I had a small place like he does, I think he has 1500 acres.
I have not seen the Amber Fire color on a Jeep yet, but I am starting to think it is UT orange. I might have to change my idea on what color I want.
I am going to test drive in the next couple of weeks.
Hope to see you in gill's tonight! That goes for all of you here. Meet you in the chat room at...
http://itsajeep.org
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tsjay
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yellowman
Gig 'em
tsjay
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Oh, the Amber Fire is definitely not a bright orange. It's a pretty cool color. Look at Davidb72's pics he posted a link to above.
I had only looked at davidb72's front page before, so I didn't go as far as the Jeep pictures. The lighting was different in the two pictures. If the actual color is the one where it looks more bronze then it would be really nice. I'd still want to see it in person.
I wasn't going to tell this, because I was afraid someone would take this the wrong way, but you all seem to understand I have a strange sense of humor. Reality is that when I first went to the sight and saw the Miata pictures I was watching the NHL All Star Game and didn't want to leaf through the pages.
Later I remembered the last person who I knew who had a Miata (which is actually a nice car) and wondered if that colored my opinion of looking at Miatas. She was someone I knew on a vanpool who left her husband of 25 years, bought a Miata, then met someone on an internet chat sight, married him and moved to Texas. No one has heard from her since...
I use to have a pet goat that rode in my truck like a dog. I got strange looks at stop lights. The horns get pretty rough on the head liner so I don't think I will carry any goats up front with the soft top. Don't need a horn punching through.
After I had a goat smash out the wind shield on the Mazda MPV I sort of got away from hauling a single goat inside the vehicle. It does prove to be a pain, but I now hook up the trailer for even one goat.
Don't know a thing about Angoras. I think Angora goats are out of the picture now. From what I understand the government quit giving subsidies to the ranchers and there was not as much a market for the hair.
In this part of the state it is pretty much Boer goats which are out of Africa. Spanish goats are still around, but don't seem to be as popular. Both types are meat goats. One of the vets that I use has a picture of a Boer goat stud on his wall that a co-op paid 16,000 dollars for when the market was just getting started (I think that beats the price of Angora hair). He also has a picture of a nanny that gave birth to quintuplets and they all survived.
So much for Goats 101, but feel free to ask any questions.
As far as hauling, my concern is still jack knifing. I think if I take it slow and easy it will be OK. Weight wise it should not be a problem.
Besides, next year my room mate is going to buy either a Mazda Tribune or a Jeep Liberty, so I will only have to haul for maybe a year with the Wrangler. I am pushing for the Liberty.
Any one have any experience with Uniroyal tires?
I have a friend whose son works at the plant. He had a set of 4 Micheln tires sent UPS to me for 125 dollars a couple of years ago and I thought I might try to go that route to replace the Goodyears that come stock. Figure I could go with the stock tires, buy new wheels, get the Uniroyals and still come out ahead if not a little better on the deal. So far I have not had any of the tire shops willing to go more than 50 bucks for the 30 inch Goodyears if I do a swap. I would like to go to a 31 inch with a little more aggressive tread design.
I had a CJ-5 in the 70's and a modest (6 foot?) utility trailer. It was difficult backing the trailer up, mostly because of the short wheel base of the Jeep. "Easy does it" would work fine for a Wrangler I'd think, and is a good idea for any rig pulling a trailer.
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UT or TU has burnt orange as their color and I am not a UT/TU fan.
If there is more to this, I can not say.
By the way, I have seen a couple of Amber Fire Wranglers, they look pretty good.
In fact, at one recent football game, the Aggies were throwing fireworks at the Longhorns. It escalated. The Longhorns lit them and threw them back!
madman
Just to satisfy your overwhelming urge for posts of new or potential Jeep owners, I thought I'd post this one for you. I still haven't decided whether or not to go for the White Sahara, I need to try and find out who the original owner and find out if there is anything wrong with it if they traded it in. I also saw a Black Sahara at another dealership but it isn't an auto...it's a stick and I'm not sure I want that. It's been at least 12 years since I snuck my brother's 68 Camaro out for a joy ride. I didn't grind the gears, but I didn't find them all either Oh well, if I must wait a while longer to find my baby .
Toad,
Nice color. I like the Sienna color the most, but I also favor the Dark Blue, the Green, the Black and believe it or not I actually like the White now.
Well it's late so I'd better go.
Hug your Jeeps for me ;-)
dwrangler
Thanks for all of the responses and pics.
Go Ducks!
I would think rust color would be more popular for its ability to hide .... rust!
Amber Fire it is.
I would not think you would have a problem pulling alpacas since they do not weigh that much. I would think that you could pull a couple of them with your Jeep and a light trailer since you have a 2000 pound towing capacity.
Before I would invest in alpacas I would have to do some serious dog and coyote proofing. They seem pretty helpless and they are to expensive to be coyote bait. Decent fencing, a sturdy building, good lighting and a couple of LSG dogs would be a must for where we have our property in Oklahoma. It would not be a bad idea for where we are in Texas also.
A couple of different subjects now.
What did you decide on doing for your icey road problem?
When I had my CJ I did not have a back seat. I cut several thick cushions to cover the entire back area and then covered it with a large piece of astro turf. I also found astro turf door mats that I used in the front along with carpet remnants. When things got really nasty, I tossed out the remants and hosed off the astro turf. I'm sure the catalogs carry something better than that set up now days, but back then who knows.
I haven't done anything about the icy roads - they happen so rarely, I guess I'll just be careful. They don't stop 4x4s from driving on snowy roads when they require 2 wheel drives to chain up around here, so unless anyone has a different solution, I'll pray a bunch when it gets that bad, and hope that someone comes up with a better idea. At least the CHP was so busy trying to get the freeway open and control the speed of the traffic, and keeping the back road closed, so they didn't put up a chain point on the road into Frazier Park. I really don't want to change tire sizes just so that I can put chains on once every 3 years...
One of the bigger Alpaca farms here has Llamas as guard animals. I wasn't thinking of the Alpaca particularly as a commercial project, but rather as a fun pet that could provide me a source of yarn for my own use. While it probably sounds out of character, this outdoorsy gal likes to knit.
I'm debating on getting one from Walmart. They have several differnet kinds. I'd like an electric one because of cost, noise, and convinence. But the psi numbers are only 950. The gasoline ones range from 1100 to 1600 and cost a whole lot more.
Does anyone have experience with this? I hear highpressure can cut lines and cause paint or undercoat to be removed.
thanks, five'er
I must admit that the aggies have a good school (almost as hard to get in as UT), but they are very easy to make fun of. They show an unbearable amount of school spirit and say "howdy" to each other on campus. I recently had to get the Wrangler worked on because somebody hit it from behind. When I got it back I joked that an aggie must have fixed it because the UT lic plate frame was thrown out and the tail light was installed upside down.
2002 1/2 wrangler sport called the AMEX?
its the X model with Chrome wheels & new interior.. With graphics on the hood..
looks pretty good.. but has the SE tires..
Dealers are taking orders for it now.
They will be taking orders for the rubicon in July. My local dealer said PROBABLY the rubicon will start off at 28,500
Keep Jeepin
BamaTazz
"February 6, 2002
Jeep® Wrangler Goes to New Heights with 'Apex' Special Edition
Auburn Hills, Mich. -- The Jeep® brand goes to new heights to create a limited edition Jeep Wrangler package, catching the eye of those who seek to be different. A new "Apex Special Edition" of the original Jeep that delivers unmatched open-air fun and freedom with the ability to go anywhere, do anything will be available in dealerships later this month and on display at the Chicago Auto Show opening this week.
"The Jeep Wrangler offers a lot of fun to a very diverse group of customers," said Tom Marinelli, Vice President, Chrysler/Jeep Global Brand Center, DaimlerChrysler Corporation. "The Apex Special Edition adds a fresh new look to the successful Jeep Wrangler X model with an eye catching exterior and unique features that will set it apart and capture the intrigue of those who seek to be a bit different."
A unique strobe hood graphic and chromed steel wheels set off the limited edition Jeep Wrangler Apex. Offered in new Bright Silver Metallic, as well as Patriot Blue and Black, this new model features Cognac Ultra-Hide seats and a free stereo/CD combination with seven speakers. The seven speaker system includes two instrument panel tweeters, two dashboard speakers, two overhead Sport Bar speakers and a center console subwoofer.
Starting at just $20,285 including destination, the Jeep Wrangler Apex is based on the successful Wrangler X model. New for the 2002 model year, Jeep Wrangler X model expanded the scope of Wrangler, attracting a younger buyer in search of affordability as well as power in the 4.0-liter engine. Jeep Wrangler Apex, like the Wrangler X model, features the powerful 4.0-liter engine with 190 horsepower and 235 lb.-ft. of torque with a standard manual transmission."
I don't see it anywhere on Jeep's web site. Any pictures or cites to back up these claims?
I don't seem to remember saying it came from Jeep's website; and yes, I can quote the origination. I was forwarding information from elsewhere as I clearly stated, not making claims that need backing up.
If you are unable to locate a two day old press release using the internet, then I would suggest that your net-skills could do with some improvement (along with your manners).
To anyone else who cares where the PR came from, just ask....... but with a little more tact than Mr/Ms anonymous02 if possible...... and I will be happy to quote the URL.