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  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    Hey guys, you need to post some more photos both here in edmunds AND Gills! I need inspiration to keep me going....the waiting is killing me. ;)

    The patriot blue X model is still there but as I've mentioned before I prefer the sienna. I'm going to try to get a hold of that guy again to get a figure nailed down as far as how much he can save me with the f&f discount.

    Also, I drove that blue Jeep and I did notice a slight difference in the ride of the standard tires/wheels...but I want to save money so I may go with the standards and save for the wheels and tires of my choice.

    My brother's church had a car show this past weekend and unfortunately there was only ONE sad :( There were alot of nicely restored cars and trucks but after MY baby comes I'll be entering my Jeep with a very big grin on my face. :)

    I haven't seen any changes to the new site as to the 03's...I want build my own and compare it to the edmunds and other sites for invoice cost.

    Took a closer look at that black Sahara...there's quite a few scratches to the paint, which makes me wonder how much they took care of this "fleet" vehicle.

    OH Before I forget...I met the buyer of my old firechicken to sign over the title (thank goodness that's gone)...they told me that the altenator went out last week. She said it cost a little over $300 to fix...that's $300 not out of my pocket :) I sincerely told them I was sorry to hear that since I had taken it to both the dealer I bought it from and her mechanic and neither one caught the problem. Things may get kinda hairy at work so I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a new job...cause I don't need to be run into the ground and risk having it affect my grades in my education keep a good thought for me in the hopes that something better will come along.

    Hug your Jeeps for me...til I get mine ;)

  • dewarsdewars Posts: 58
    I see you are in Missouri, hopefully some of our Jeep friends in that area can help you find a dream job that will help you get that Wrangler even sooner.
    My advice is hold out for the color and equipment you want. It will make it that much sweeter when you get it. :)

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    You live in Ft. Collins????? YOU LUCKY DOG! I just checked your profile and saw that you live there. MUST BE NICE!

    I love Colorado. I have been out there four or five times, but not since 1988. I am way overdue for my Rocky Mountain fix.

    I've been to RMNP a couple times, to the San Juans once, to a guest ranch for a week about 50 miles east of Gunnison, just off US 50 and not far from Monarch pass (what a wonderful week that was!), and one float trip down the Colorado River near Vail. My first ever trip out west was to a guest ranch near Ft. Collins when I was about 12 years old.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Thanks for the welcome, Tsjay and Bamatazz! Yes, I did post once before. Harley Jane was born December 15, 2000 and I got her on December 23, 2000. She is a 2001 Sahara, white, with everything including the Dana 44, Canyon wheels, etc, etc.

    I've been reading the postings on and off ever since Tsjay joined the group and went through all the usual (and not so usual) pre-Jeep-owning agonies!

    Dwrangler: Hang in there - eventually you will get your Jeepie! Don't give in on what you really want, and make sure you get the Jeep you want, not what your parents may want! I was 38 when I got Harley Jane.

    There's no Walmart where I am, Bamatazz, but I think I'll check Sears Auto for seat covers. The guy at BJs said they had flowered covers for Wrangler seats 4 months ago, but they've been on backorder ever since.

    Gotta pop the softtop back up to get HJ serviced on Thursday (oil change and exhaust manifold recall.) My husband has a Cherokee (2000) and he got the same recall notice.

    Haven't been off road yet, but we plan to eventually relocate to the western part of the country. I hope to then be off road more than on!

    Keep on Jeepin!

    HJ (my Jeep and I have the same initials! Am I crazy?? When I move I plan on getting "HJJEEP" license plates - too expensive in NJ!)
  • dewarsdewars Posts: 58
    My family and I enjoy Fort Collins. We have only lived in Colorado a little over a year. I am originally from the northwest, Oregon and Idaho. We have been up to RMNP a few times. I can't wait to pull the top down on Red and cruise up there this summer. It's about 1 hr and 15 minutes from here.
    A fellow jeeper I've met is going to show me some trails that lead to old ghost towns up in the Rockies and we might go to the Easter Jeep get- together at Moab next spring.

  • madebw00madebw00 Posts: 13
    Costco has nice seat covers for $20 or so - FYI.
  • oceantoadoceantoad Posts: 186
    Tom, the check is in the mail. Figure I would post here since I might not get to Gill's for a day or two.

    I am sending Tom a little something for those folks who are curious. I'll have to wait and see if he posts about it once it arrives.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    My buddy, Mike, at work has found a super nice black 93 YJ on Ebay. I think he is going to bid on it!

    Whether he gets that one or not, he is definitely getting a Jeep. :)


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • saharancsaharanc Posts: 3
    Hey all, finally getting around to joining the group.
    I currently have a 2002 Sahara (you can call her Emily) with soft top after trading in a 99 Sport with dual top last fall (actually still have the hard top going unused). After removing the back seat to give plenty of room for the dog, no changes have been made. Finally went 'Full Monty' this weekend and, sure enough, am hooked. Only problem is I'm not exactly street legal. I've seen a couple sites discussing frame mounted mirrors. I need suggestions as to where I get the parts to complete. Suggestions as well as anything to avoid??

    Also, I need to occasionally make room for 2 people, 2 dogs and accompaning gear/luggage. I have a large North Face duffel that should hold up to weather and highway wind. Suggestions on out of cabin racks to attach the duffel to allowing for easy access to interior?

    -getting better and better
  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    Thanks all for the words of encouragement. Actually there is a 02 Sienna Sport with a soft top and auto...(only thing is the windows aren't tinted. But I don't have enough for a downpayment...I just hope that it will be there when I can afford it or I'll have to order :(


    Hug your Jeeps for me til I get mine ;) and my thoughts and prayers are with the Buck family :(

  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    Thanks for the pic twylie :) oh and nice flag front plate :)

    Hug your Jeeps for me ;)

  • Hey Toad, I'm curious as heck as to what you are sending Tom!? Could it be your laundry :)
    Deb, I thought the soft top was a no-no?! I say go for it though. Who needs the hassle of taking off a hard top when it's nice (no offense Tom) :) As always, good luck! I think all us Edmund's people need to get together and have a giant party when you finally get that Jeep!!!
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I like the idea of a party for dwrangler! I know I'm pulling for her too!
  • madebw00madebw00 Posts: 13
    ... Quadratec - they are called mirror movers and allow you to move the mirrors (hence the name) from the doors to the windshield brackets.

    Go to and search for mirror movers. They run $28.95 a pair.

    That makes it legal to drive w/out doors. Some states even consider the rearview mirror sufficient.
  • texasjeeptexasjeep Posts: 270
    You can get a rack that goes above your spare tire (trail rack) or one below it that mounts off a receiver. The receiver mounted rack decreases your departure angle and that is not good if plan on using the rack when you venture off-road. I have seen some that extend up around 8" instead going of straight out. I would think those would work best.
    They also have racks for the interior, rack for the top above the driver and passenger and racks that cover the top of the Jeep. I would get a catalog from and . Avoid anything steel horse.
  • texasjeeptexasjeep Posts: 270
    Anyone interested in the Rubicon? You could buy this guys spot on the waiting list for $13,100. Sounds like a good deal to me. ;)

    Hey Tom,
    I hope he isn't looking at my black '93. It was a piece of crap.
    You do have him looking for a 6 cyc?
    Don't you have a procomp lift now? I would look into getting new shocks. The ones the kit comes with are suppose to be very harsh. I would go with Rancho RS9000s. Look into it and see if people running procomp lifts found this to be correct. Don't upgrade your shocks if you plan on going to a bigger lift soon. You will need longer shocks.
    Are you Wheelin or modin this weekend?
    I hope to be out on the Colorado river this weekend.

    Glad to see you are getting closer to getting that Jeep. I think you are making the right move going with the soft top.
  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    tex, I think that spot on eBay is the PREMIUM over MSRP! "This auction is above the M.S.R.P. " Ouch! That's going to hurt paying over $40k for it!

    Good suggestions on the racks. I'm looking at the Olympic mountaineer rack since we don't use the back seat, but that wouldn't work with dogs back there. One consideration is the weight limit various racks will have. Anything that mounts directly to the tailgate will be limited to 75lbs or less unless you go with the "footers" option that places some of the load directly on the bumper. The rear racks that use the reciever hitch mount can support more weight. A relative had a metal shop weld his so that it's elevated to improve delparture angle. He can still open his tailgate with it on there, but it has to be unloaded first. We're still mulling over the idea of a rack. We have a need for one, but want to make sure we take all these factors into account. Ideally, we'd have a mountaineer style rack for when it's just the two of us and then a receiver rack for if we needed to free up the back area. I have some calls into local fab shops to see if I can get an estimate on some custom racks similar to the ones available through the catlogs.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Guess I'll be wheelin' Saturday. The same guy I went with last weekend thinks he can go again this weekend. YES!

    Those shocks aren't too bad that I got with the Procomp lift. I think I'll just stay with them, even though I know better ones are available. I have spent more than I needed to lately on Thelma, so I am just gonna chill and enjoy what I've got for a while.

    Get to Gill's tonight and chat with us! That goes for all of you guys. Come on! Jeez! The place was deserted last night. And one certain Mr. Quikkag is hogging all the enjoyment of a new Jeep instead of sharing it with his edmunds buddies! Shamey, shamey, shamey! Let's be posting here and chatting in Gill's, Quik!


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mermaid55mermaid55 Posts: 3
    I am about to buy a wrangler, I just wanted to know which year would be the best. Ane also, which kind of accesseries is the best, and what is a lemon?
  • Well Mermaid, you raise a lot of questions. As for which Jeep you should buy... Tell us more about your finances and intended use's... Can you afford a new Jeep? Are you looking to buy used? What options are you looking for? Is this your daily driver? Will you be off-roading? Any answers will help us help you....
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    If you are going to go used, get one with the sound bar. I didn't get it because I'm not particular about the radio (tend to listen to all news stations for the traffic reports), but that is my one big regret. All other matters have variables - the use of the vehicle, how much you have to put into it, etc. If you are going to use it as a daily driver, get a TJ -'97 (?is this their first year?) to now. Better suspension.
  • appstate88appstate88 Posts: 40
    Opinions! We're full of them when it comes to Wranglers.

    Not knowing much about your situation, I have some fairly universal advice.

    One, the resale value of these vehicles are so high, that, if you can afford it, buy new.

    And be aware of the downsides and buy according to your tastes. Everyone on this board loves their Wranglers, but they also know what makes them fun gives them, shall we say, character...

    For example:

    Convertible top means more road noise.
    Great off-road means trucklike highway ride.
    Incredibly small turning radius means cramped back seat with little cargo room.

    Give us more details and we will look forward to hearing about it!
  • texasjeeptexasjeep Posts: 270
    Are you asking what years are lemons or do you not know what a lemon is? A lemon is bascially a piece of junk. It is a car that has numerous problems or ususally the same problem that can not be fixed or repaired.
    Not knowing more about your situation I would only say go with fuel injection. I believe all '91 and newer are fuel injected.

    If you regret it and you do want a soundbar, just buy one and have it put in. They are not that expensive. Heck, if you post a picture showing you driving your Jeep with it TOPLESS and DOORLESS, I will buy it. :)
    For someone that lives in the moutains and loves the outdoors, I don't see how you couldn't love it. Just pull the top off for a weekened and take it out on some trails or to some good hiking areas.
  • mermaid55mermaid55 Posts: 3
    well... my budget for my first car( I am turning 16), is probably going to be about 7,000 to 9,000 I don't think it's good to buy a new car for my first, so I will buy an older one. I am going to be using it everyday and off-roading sometimes too. What is a soundbar? What's a Cj, Yj, and Tj?
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    A sound bar goes over the top of the vehicle just behind the roll bar. It has 2 speakers mounted in it which adds a great deal to the sound quality - the speakers in the front are pretty limited. I looked in a couple of catalogs and I know I can get aftermarket units - it's just that I have other, higher priorities for what few available bucks I have at the moment (like a new roof, and getting rid of the Taco!). And time is getting spent doing more fire abatement than the county requires - these fires are definitely getting too close for comfort).

    CJ, YJ and TJ are all specific models of Wranglers, and reflect different years. I don't know when the models changed from CJ to YJ. I think that the TJ's first year was '97, I have a '98 and it is definitely a TJ. They have a better suspension system for on-road comfort. The guys can probably give you better historical information about previous versions and the years they changed.
  • mermaid55mermaid55 Posts: 3
    hey thanks for all the responds from you guys.. but I am still not sure which to buy, which is the best year for the wranglers? I read the posts and they said that the soft-top on 2001 is much better than the years before, does it really make a big difference? And is manual better or auto?

  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    A sight you might take a look at is the TJ FAQ at

    It's no longer being updated, but it's still a good intro.

    CJs are the "original Jeep" vehicle that eventually became the Wrangler. The last model year for the CJ7 (same dimensions as a Wrangler) was 1986, about the same time Jeep/AMC became part of Chrysler. They have round headlights and a leaf-spring suspension.

    YJs were the first-generation Wranglers. They also have a leaf-spring suspension and square headlights. Stay away from the pre-1992 models, they do not have fuel injection and can be unreliable. The last year model for the YJ was 1995.

    TJs are the second- and current-generation Wrangler. They have round headlights (bigger than the CJ7's) and a coil-spring suspension. The first year for the TJ was 1997. Most of us here currently drive TJs, though several of us (including myself) used to own YJs or CJs. Jeep owners tend to be lifetime fans because they are very fun and unique vehicles to own, though they do have their quirks.

    You are probably looking for a late-model YJ or an early-model TJ, something made between 1994 and 1998, given your budget of 7 to 9 grand. I'd spend some time reading the old posts here--someone who recently bought a Wrangler took a few hours to browse several thousand old posts here and found it to be useful. Wrangler are neat vehicles, but not for everyone.

  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    The MOMA in New York is going to have an exhibit this summer called "Speed Sport Transport," which will highlight the art of automotive design over the past 100 years. There are going to 6 vehicles displayed at the museum, and they include a 1959 VW Beetle and (the sole American car) a 1952 Jeep. There is an article about this in the NY Times online, and the curator basically said the Jeep is "the quintessential American, pragmatic, functional vehicle" and that they though the late-50s MB/CJ5 was the best design of that concept. I'm not sure if a direct link will work for this article, but here it is:
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Fun link, Ducks, and the Jeep is going to make a nice addition to their permanent collection.

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  • dave3463dave3463 Posts: 1
    I am in the market for a Wrangler and I came across a 99' Sport with: 4.0L, 30000 miles, both tops, A/C, Cruise, Nerf Bars, plus some other things. It is still under factory warranty. The guy is asking 15,000 for it and needs to sell it because he has parkinsons disease and can't drive anymore. He said it has never been off the highway and looks in great condition. I would appreciate everyone's thoughts.
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