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rb123: You can get the Detroit Truetrac limited-slip for like $350, installation would be another $350 or so. Unless you want seriously big tires (33" & up) the Dana 35 is enough but you will be amazed how much difference a limited-slip or locker makes traction-wise, even the crummy factory limited-slip has been great for me though it's starting to wear out (more slip and less "limited").
I think that is the route I might take.
see these links:
http://jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=272818
http://jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=278424
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=261967
http://www.wheelingtire.com/maxxis_buckshot_mudders.htm
SIZE.............O.D......TREAD.....PRICE
215-85R-15........29.......6.7.....$100.00
245-85R-15........31.......7.7.....$126.00
275-85R-15........33.......8.6.....$145.00
Walt
Tom will get mad if I go out w/ Bama before heading up to KY with him; I'll have to plan accordingly...
-twylie
Wheels, Tazz is a 2001 Anniversary Edition, only 4,097 were made. Plastic/Fiberglass, Either or, I believe that is safer than sailcloth.
Keep Jeepin
Bama!
If we go with just one car we'll be looking at 45,000-50,000 miles a year (more or less), so I don't think I'll ever be without a car payment!
I have spent my money so far on armor, and I know that was the right thing to do, but that stuff ain't sexy. I have installed a Kilby gas tank skid, a Teraflex steering box skid, and some Sun Performance rocker guards.
I have also gone to BFG Mud Terrains and some AR767 wheels, so all of my expenditures haven't been for armor.
Have you seen my recent pics of Thelma Jane? Check em out in the photo gallery here in Edmunds or at Gill's.
Now, I'm in a holding pattern, waiting for some extra bucks to show up in my budget for a bigger lift and some 33s. Then, I would want to regear for the bigger tires, and at that time, I would like to have some type of lockers installed.
All this stuff works together, so it's hard to do things one at a time, and I don't have the money to do it all at once. If I want the bigger tires, I need more lift. If I get the bigger tires, I will want to change gearing to maintain the acceleration, if I get new gears, that's the logical time to install lockers.
It'll all happen eventually, but I am having a great time with Thelma Jane just like she is.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
There is no official time, but most evenings, it seems like the chat room is pretty dead until about 9 PM CDST, which I think would be 8 PM your time. If you are on Pacific Time, it would be 7 PM, but I think you might be on Mountain Time?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
I will be buying one with the 5 speed but it looks like you can get a 4 spd auto for 2003.
The 2 options for the Sahara that I'm am looking at are the Trac-Lock Differential and the 4-wheel disc brakes.
Should I be looking at anything else before I take the plunge? Your input is greatly appreciated.
CD with sub
rocker panels
matching color flares
Gas tank skid plate
Mine is Black with the agate interior. It has the 60th Anniversary design on the side.
Went to see my local dealer today, They are now offering 0.0% interest for 60 months on the 2002 wrangelers. Soo all of your future jeep owners here is your chance.
Keep Jeepin
BAMA!
One of the real biggies is the top option: soft top, hard top, or dual top. This is a very important decision that will have a very significant impact on how much you enjoy your Jeep.
Another biggie is the rear end. If you are gonna do much offroading or are going to go to bigger tires some day, then the Dana 44 rear end could be very important. (Maybe Saharas have the Dana 44 standard? I have a Sport, so I don't know.)
Tell us what you think you will be doing with your Jeep, and tell us what kind of climate you have where you live. These will both be factors in deciding what options are appropriate for you.
Read a lot of posts in here, and get a feel for what others have for options and how they like or dislike them.
Come to Gill's chat room and chat real time with some Jeepers. Go to http://itsajeep.org and from the home page, click on Jeep Chat.
Ask any and all questions you may have about Jeeps. All of us here love to "talk Jeep."
Welcome to this message board, and let me say that I congratulate you on your choice of vehicles!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Well, we had three downpours today after lunch. Mike's Jeep had standing water in the floor.
Well, it's a Jeep, and it won't hurt anything. The dash got pretty wet, but all the electrical stuff works fine. The seats got soaked too.
He can lower that top tomorrow and let the Jeep sit out in the sun. I'm sure that will dry her out good.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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Wewll I spoke to my dealer and my payoff is only $3500 - not too bad. They have a search out for the Jeep I want.... I'll keep you posted on futures....
I heard they just came out with 0% for five years on the 02's that are left, and you get the seven year/70,000 (or is it 100,000?) mile warranty. Bigkahuna said in the Chat Room at Gill's last night that DC is matching your downpayment up to $1000. WOW!
Debs, are you reading this? Forget the stupid Cougar and get that Jeep you've been wanting for so long!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
P.S. Chef, are you getting the Dana 44? I would think that you should get that for sure, since your plans are to lift and go to bigger tires. I think you said something about wheelin' that Jeep too, so be sure and hold out for a Jeep that has the Dana 44.
Yes I want the Dana 44 and limited slip diff, the dealer told me that the dana 44 is a hard fine, but He is looking for it. I want the dana 44 limited slip, a/c, auto, dual tops, 30 caynon tires, and the 7 speaker system. I gave the guy like 4 differnt color combinations so it will be an easier find. And yes it is a GREAT time to buy at 0% financing at 60 months. I havent heard about DC matching downpayments, but my dealership is matching $500 down. Well I'll keep posted on my accomplishments on Monday...
Less noise
Rear wash/wipe
Clearer windows
Cons: Takes ten minutes to remove
Needs two people or a hoist to remove
When removed you need somewhere to put it
Why not order the dual top option? You get the best of both, and it's cheaper than buying later.
ANyway tsjay is right, the hardest choice is the hard or soft top. I have both but don't really need the hard top anymore since I moved to California but I thanked my lucky stars for it when I lived in the Pacific Northwest. My advice is that if you live in the Sunbelt, don't get the hard top; otherwise consider the dual-top option.
Tom
It is also quieter at highway speeds (no flapping), though I have heard that the newer tops they came out with (last year?) are better, and don't flap so much.
Last year I saw a liner for the inside of a hard top on quadratec's web site. I went there a couple of days ago, and couldn't find anything. Does anyone know where I might find one? Or are they not making them any more?
Is anyone watching the History Channel? They have a show about 4X4's Then and now. Pretty good show.
So, I thought I had messed up, but then I got a little 89 S10 pickup for a daily driver, and all of a sudden, the hard top only choice became the perfect choice. I was then in a position to take the hard top off (and the doors off!) and just leave Thela Jane that way all summer. I have something esle to drive whenever it is raining or whenever there is a good chance of rain.
If you are in a position where you don't have to drive the Jeep when there's a chance of rain, and if you have a garage to keep both the Jeep and the hard top in, then maybe the hard top only is the way to go for you.
I like the hard top fine in the winter. Also, I don't have to fool with unzipping windows at drive throughs, and I have the rear washer/wiper going for me. The hard top offers more security for items left in the Jeep, of course.
The decision is worth putting a lot of thought into, because it is just about the most important choice you have to make for obtaining the most satisfaction in owning your Jeep.
I would offer this suggestion: if you think you will EVER want the hard top, go ahead and get it with the Jeep. Those things cost a fortune to buy after the fact, if you get the factory quality.
Hope this helps, and be sure to ask any more questions that you might have.
I hope you end up making the choice that is best for you.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
There ended up being 10 vehicles in our convoy on the trails! One XJ, on YJ, four TJs, and four CJs. Late in the day another XJ joined us.
AND GUESS WHAT??? FOR ONCE OLD TSJAY WAS NOT THE OLDEST ONE IN THE GROUP! There was another "Tom" there, and he was 65 years old. He had his wife with him too, and she was enjoying the wheelin' as much as he was.
One of the Jeeps today had two chicks in it! And the one driving was more adventurous than anyone else in the group. She was always wanting to try the mud holes when most of us went around, and she was wanting to find some steep hills to climb.
Quite a day!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Congratulations to my fellow Kentuckians on the Louisville team! The WORLD CHAMPION Louisville Little League Team!
TomHave you hugged your Jeep today?
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Anyway, best of luck!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Funny you should ask about bike racks. My wife and I did a lot of research on what rack to get for her Wrangler (Soft-Top). We have a trailer hitch already, so we were looking at Hitch Mount versus Spare Tire Mounted.
We finally settled on a rack attached to the spare. We did it for a couple of reasons, but mainly I really liked the fact that we could easily open the tailgate without the interference of having a rack in the way.
Also, in your case, you wouldn't have to get the hitch installed just for the rack. And the receiver size and ground clearance questions would be moot.
We ended up buying a rack from Yakima called the SpareROC. (Lots of outdoor places sell it, but we got ours from REI. I think they are running a sale on them now for around $150...) Since it's just hanging on the back, I wanted a really tough rack and we have had great luck with Yakima roof racks in the past.
I installed it this weekend. Took my time, and it took 2 beers and about an hour and a half to get it installed. Seems to be good and sturdy and it keeps the bikes well off the ground.
This rack is just for 2 bikes, but you can buy extra accessories such as locks and a snow ski adapter (Holds 6 sets of skis or 4 snowboards). (We've got the ski adapter, but haven't tried it out yet... )
Hope this helps and let us know what you decide to go with!
Cam
This afternoon I stopped by the Schwinn bike store to see what they offered. They have several models in both the spare tire and hitch type. At this point I am leaning toward the hitch type. I have heard that the spare tire type will cause extra stress on the tailgate hinge not unlike when you mount an oversized tire on the tailgate. I most likely will be getting a receiver anyways so I might as well use it for the bike rack also. I can see how it might be faster to connect and disconnect the receiver type rack. I guess an advantage of the tire mounted rack is that you can still use the tailgate with bikes attached. Still getting ideas and shopping. Thanks for the input.
Tom
I got a Tomken bumper with integrated receiver hitch. I like both a lot, but might do it differently if I had the choice. I might go with one which has the integrated tire and gas can carrier. Otherwise, the Tomken is great. I needed the receiver to have a 2000# towing rating, which it does. I tow a boat.
Now, for racks. I got a shelf type rack at Wally World for like $69 or $79. You can easily stand 2 or maybe 3 bikes on that, and bungie them to your tire and bumper. That rack even has an adapter for bike tires, but I didn't buy that (yet). It works fine the way I described for now. The upshot of that is you can use it for coolers, or other things besides bikes. It may not be as fancy as some of the "4X4" ones, with extra ground clearance, etc., but it does the job just fine for moi.
My 97 has seen its share of rain. I think I am going to go home today and rip the carpet out for drying (again).
Nothing a little driving topless in the sun won't cure!
:-)
I used this one on vacation a few weeks ago, ON THE FRONT of the Jeep!!! I had the shelf rack in back with coolers and fishing gear, boogie board, etc., and put the two bikes up on the front.
It worked out pretty well, although I got a lot of looks from people on the way to the Cape. The bikes were great on Nantucket, but I felt VERY WEIRD since I own a Jeep, and ALMOST EVERYBODY ON NANTUCKET was driving a Jeep, most of them rentals. I couldn't believe it! Arrrrgh! Talk about frustrating...
Can anyone provide any insight as to what Jeep did to increase the fuel economy ratings on the 2003 Wranglers fron 15 City - 18 Hwy in 2002 to 16 City - 19 Hwy in 2003 ??
Did changing the auto to a 4 speed make that much difference in the CAFE for that vehicle. I'm not aware of any other changes in the running gear on the '03 X/Sport/Sahara models.
See you later
Kris
I even did some wheeling! Not really rough but my wife and I went exploring up forest service roads and also into some undeveloped areas looking for investment properties. My jeep has never been so muddy (It rained all night)!
Needless to say I went to the spray car wash and cleaned Pepe up!