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http://www.volvoxc.com/resources/how-to/pdf/b4-servo-cover.pdf
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10819&page=3
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9192&page=3
and of course beautiful man Howard http://www.freewebs.com/howardsvolvos/driveline.htm
check against your chassis number
it was a $165 job at the dealer(!).. the part is actually $18 bucks, $130 was an hour of labour (there is a DIY too, if you wish)... and here you enjoy your car again.
It seemed to work for about a week, but now there it sits, on transplant row. No love from Volvo and I'm about to shell out $5000.
My burning question is - if Volvo's software was designed to do what it was doing (that neutral thing), would that have actually been the cause of the damage that has now resulted in the failure of the transmission? The dealer is treating these things as two unrelated issues. It just seems driving the car for 123k miles with software that was telling the hardware to do something "unhealthy" the whole time had to have had some effect on the hardware. To me it's like a doctor telling a smoker of 50 years that his lung cancer still would have found him, regardless of whether he quit smoking 49 years ago or not because they don't have anything to do with each other. But...what do I know? Maybe my problem was not heeding the symptoms soon enough. Anyway, that's my experience. If anyone has specific insight into it or can benefit from it, there you go.
Good luck.
Would never buy a Volvo again.
And don't forget that Honda and BMW are known for automatic transmission problems too.
Good thing Fiat is returning to the US!
My dealership went through all the things you read about software upgrade, fluid change etc, now want $5000 for new trans
all along I kept telling them I thought it was the transmission but they kept saying no.
Anyway Volvo NA said all I can do is complain to the National Highway Safety
1-800-4249393. They are taking complaints and could possibly force a recall. The more calls the better.
I have been truly disappointed with this whole ordeal. So I have voiced my complaint not only to Volvo corporate, the local dealership and now the NHS. Thank you and I am encouraging all Volvo owners going through this issue to complain. The more complaints the better our case of forcing a recall.
I haven't experienced catastrophic failures like losing a trans @ 40K....however I did experience an un-rebuildable '88 Saab 9000 trans that almost took me to the nut house.
I'd rather not be on the hook for 3 grand to replace the transmission. On the other hand, considering the service I've gotten from this vehicle and given that I have no intention of selling it..let the Blue Book be damned...I'll drive till one of us drops.
Anyway, please confirm that the only real solution is a replacement. Looks like everyone has tried all the same stuff I have been recommended.
thanks
The trans is made by a 3rd party vendor or rebuilt by a 3rd party, not Volvo. Even if you get a "ner" trans, it wii be a rebuilt unit and the problem may happen again. My '01 V70XC is on its 3rd trans & the wagon has only 90k on the odometer. I've been able to get Volvo to pay for both replacements, but it was a real hassle. I've now changed my driving style to compensate for this issue happening again & I think it has worked. I drive in an urban environment & I think there is a definite flaw in either the brain or the trans which is helped by the on/off gas, brake frequency of city driving. I don't think the brain can always react quickly enough and therefore, gets caught in a false neutral and a hard downshift between 3rd to 2nd or 2nd to 1st gear. I've been driving a bit more aggressively with this trans and it has helped. I'm "coasting" less between being on the gas and being on the brakes. I can feel when it wants to surge by going into a false neutral and either get on the gas or the brakes (depending on the situation) and everything remains smooth.
It's not something I want to do, but I also don't want to buy another car right now. The rest of the car is great! The engine is very strong and I've added some nice suspension mods to make it more fun. It is what it is at this point.
Good luck.
replace your B4 servo cover first, and then go from there
volvoxc.com is a much better forum
http://www.volvoxc.com/resources/how-to/pdf/b4-servo-cover.pdf
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10819&page=3
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9192&page=3
http://www.freewebs.com/howardsvolvos/driveline.htm
http://www.nhtsa.gov/Contact
you can send them email.
I think to file a complaint though you need to call. They take a lot of information and then they send a form that needs to be filled out. It took a long time to receive so have patience.
Ours is an 2002 V70T5 with (just) 90K miles on clock
Just taken it in again and they say full replacement of transmission is only option.
Have only checked this evening - and it is quite unbelievable as to how many threads and posts on different forums are out there on this specific issue.
Clearly, it would seem, there is a fundamental problem with the design of these transmission units / their integartion into the car - but no admission from Volvo (apart - at least from one thread it would appear) from secret internal communication within Volvo.
having had Volvo's in the family for over 40 years, but now having read the many threads on this specific issue, I am highly unlikely to ever consider one again unless they come clean on the issue and sort out what appears to be a problem for many hundreds if not thousands of Volvo owners globally.
Volvo any comment?
I feel duped by a used car dealer is it possible for someone to somehow temporarily mask any transmission issues just long enough to get it sold?
A little background info
On the afternoon of Monday, March 14, 2011, I test drove a 2002 Volvo V70 XC 2.4L AWD. I drove it for about 20 minutes and I fell in love with it! I officially purchased the car on Tuesday, March 15 at around 5:00 PM. The next morning I backed out of my driveway, put the car in drive, and it jerked a little bit – it reminded me of when I was 16 and learning how to drive a manual 5 speed. The rest of my 5 minute commute to work was uneventful, but the jerking occurred again 2 or 3 times over the course of the next 2 days. When I left work on Friday at 4:30 PM, the car jerked repeatedly. Each time I came to a stop and started to accelerate again, it was like the car didn’t know which gear it should be in. At one point on my short drive home from the office, I was going about 35 mph and all of a sudden it was like someone had slipped the car into neutral and was slamming down on the gas. After a second or two, it clicked back into gear. I called the dealership Friday at 5:00 PM (exactly 72 hrs/3 days past purchase time) to let them know that there were definitely transmission issues. They told me to bring the car in today (Saturday) so that they could diagnose/fix it. On my trip out there, the transmission slipped repeatedly and it actually stalled 3 times (accelerating from a complete stop).
It's a 2001 Volvo XC70 - horrible downshifting around 25 mph. I hear the loud clank as well!
Thanks for this forum!
Maybe if people would take responsibility for their own errors in judgement, then the car makers wouldn't have to filter through the thousands of whackos to give proper service/support to the few people who have a genuinely defective product.
Took it back but he refused any refund or repairs, so i called the police and they referred the OMVC @ 41-226-4500 and then the dealer agreed to check the car and perhaps repair it . still waiting to get it fixed.
would cost me 2500-3000$ to fix it.
Be careful of this dealer
kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
My 2004 V70 now has 120,000 trouble-free miles and I've begun buying supplies to do my 120,000 mile service. To that end, I have been researching (again) approved transmission fluids to see if anything has changed in the past 2 years.
My main motivation this time around is to take my V70 to my local Ford dealer and let them use their machine rather than do the flush myself. I will speak with the Ford service manager to ensure that they will do the flush and use the correct JWS 3309 (Toyota T-IV) fluid.
I reposted the above quoted message from I discussion I had in 2009 (read posts from around 250 - 260) because I just called Exxon-Mobil to ask about using Mobil1 ATF synthetic fluid. I spoke with Luke in their tech support department and he confirmed that Mobil 1 ATF synthetic is NOT JWS 3309 compliant. He said the only transmission fluid that should be used in the Volvo V70 is Mobil ATF 3309.
For info, the Ford Fusion V6 with 6-speed automatic (Aisin F-21) transmission uses the same Mobil ATF 3309 fluid, which is also known as Motorcraft Premium Automatic Transmission Fluid (aka Toyota T-IV).
Lesson learned - there are still no approved synthetic fluids. I can't help but wonder how many V70's are out there with either the original (never changed) or improper fluid in the transmission. A failure waiting to happen...
Toyota wants $7/qt for T-IV fluid. Ford wants $7.40/qt for Motorcraft Premium ATF (I examined a bottle at the parts counter and confirmed it's the correct fluid, part no. XT8-Q-AW).
The Ford quick lube shop wants $169 to do the flush for me (including 15 qts of ATF). That's a really good deal - it would cost me $110 just to buy the Toyota T-IV alone (16 qts). Add $25 for the IPD kit and I'm at $135! It's definitely worth $35 to not have to do it myself.
The Volvo dealer quoted me $270 to do the flush. They don't even do a complete flush. They do a drain&fill - drive - drain&fill - drive - drain&fill. I told them "no thanks."
I'll be visiting the Ford dealer next week.
thank you
You should sue the dealership, Volvo, and the Federal Trade Commission for not protecting your rights!
http://www.volvo-forums.com/t2477-st-20-transmission-problem-geartronic.htm
Read and see if this gives any relief. I will be replacing to see if it cures.
http://www.ipdusa.com/products/5538/107960-b4-servo-cover-update
Heres Hoping, I am oredering
http://www.ipdusa.com/products/5538/107960-b4-servo-cover-update
I am Purchasing and hoping this cures the problem many have reported.
Many have reported this HAS CURED the Tranny problems with these V70s.