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Honda Civic Tires and Wheels
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The Sandman
Now, if the car is doing this in rain (not freezing rain) too, then there's something very strange going on with the car. Rain should not cause vibration, and if the tires have good tread on them and your speed is reasonable for conditions, there should be no swaying either unless it's buffeting from strong winds--that can happen with small, light cars like the Civic.
I went to the dealer as a result of a discussion in another blog about handling problems on slippery pavement. Mine was so bad I had started looking at buying a new//different car.
The dealer will replace the rear upper control arms which (originally) were designed to "tilt" the wheels allowing for better handling. Only problem with this great idea is that it causes uneven tire wear (a prerequisite to having the dealer replace the parts and to do an alignment on Honda) and lack of control on slippery pavement.
Mine was fixed yesterday. My fingers and toes are crossed cause I love this little car and want to keep it.
The partial refund I did get from Honda I was happy with even though I think they should've compensated me for all four tires. A difference of opinion but I was happy for something. I do keep an eye on the tires and so far...perfect.
The Sandman :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The Sandman :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I recommend Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S
They are #1 rated High Performance All Season tires. To read details about the tire visit tirerack.com. On the main screen, select the make/model of your car, then filter the results for Michelin and read the details. I think you will be pleased with the results. It is relatively expensive, but Discount Tire and Sears stores carry this tire at lower price and often at promo price especially around special days like Memorial day etc. If you can plan for a new set of tire I would wait for these to go on sale.
Talking about both stock steel wheels w/ covers (16inch) that come on the 2009 Civic LS and the the Alloy wheels that come on the 2009 Civic LX-S.
Does anybody know if its is worth going over to the LX-S for the wheels alone (looks are not important to me) the issues is if the alloy wheels are lighter than the steel. I read somewhere that the lower quality alloy wheels not necessarily weigh less than the steel counterpart.
I did not have a chance to sit in the LX-S so i dont know if there are any big differences in the Gray vs. Black (sporty LX-S) interior.
What are your opinions? Thanks!
Normally to get alloys that "statistically significantly" contribute to weight loss that will make a document able difference is almost non existent. To do so you are normally talking about FORGED wheel sets. They of course are almost exponentially higher in price/cost. This would almost always be a $ loss as far as mpg savings is concerned.
As you probably have observed, the chief reasons for alloys are.... looks/style/status/statement/opportunites for additional sales. For obvious reasons, the care and repair costs to forged wheels goes up even higher for forged wheels.
Alloys cost more for both normal maintenance and/or especially repair. If you will NEVER nick a wheel or touch a curb, no real worries. As you probably know, most alloys have clear coats and need to be treated like the clear coat painted body surfaces. That being true, good maintenance really requires weekly washings and 3 month inspection and repair or touch up, polishing and "waxing". You should probably do the inner (reverse) side of the alloys at the same time.
The cars that I have with STEEL wheels happen to get the best mpg !!?? 2004 Civic 38-42 mpg , 2003 Jetta TDI 48-52 mpg normal commute. In addition, tires have lasted 74,500 and 112,300 miles respectively. Could alloy wheels have done the same? Well, I do not know, as to test it would have required an additional 187,000 miles A/B test. On the Jetta, I wanted a spare set of "steelies" and picked up a set of 4 on the after market for $50./12.50 each. Normal cosmetic or rust repair is DIY, sandpaper and spray paint. I do happen to wash the (inner) reverse sides of the steel wheels when I rotate them at 10,000 miles intervals.
So would it be "worth" going to alloys? We haven't even talked about the usual up charge on more expensive tires that the majority of folks go to.
The Sandman :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Unless tire looks are important, I would stay with stock size.
33-34 mpg is great! Back in the day I used to have a 92 civic (same gen as 95) that averaged 38 mpg from everyday city driving, and 42 mpg on highway, all stock tire size. It was a stick shift and I Loved that car!
to the 16" alloys for Xtra $1,220, or the 17" alloy for Xtra $2,114!! wow pricey stuff
I thought I was told that the larger tire would give smoother ride????
Another MAJOR concern is .. tires. WHAT are stock tires on the Civic Couple EX?
Are they cheapo depot? I drive 500 highway miles per week, so is there such a thing as doing the switchout before taking position of car & put on a good Michelen? I don't know how they would compensate me on getting a car without their tires tho.
Anyone savvy in this area?
I know that a T Speed Rating indicates a lower speed than the H, but T is supposed to be OK up to 118mph, which should cover anything she will do.
I'm less sure about the difference in the Load Rating.
Here's a chart that will help you see how much weight difference will be going from a 91 to an 89:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=35
If I am interpreting the chart correctly, each tire could hande 1279 lbs for the lower rated tire vs. 1356 for the higher.
1279 x 4 = 5116
1356 x 4 = 5424
So the load carrying capacity of the car would be reduced by 318 lbs.
5,116 lbs sounds like plenty for a vehicle with a curb weight of 2,657 lbs.
Yes, that's my interpretation as well.
My Brother and I each bought new HCH's in 2007. My brother noticed a problem with the handling on his vehicle at highway speeds about a year after the purchase. He thought it was a steering problem and was afraid to drive the car anymore, so he called Honda and informed them. Honda sent a tow truck to take the car to a Honda dealership. The knuckle-head tow truck driver did not check whether the emergency hand brake was engaged and towed the car with it on. That fried the cars rear brake shoes, drums, bearings etc. Honda refused to take responsibility, first saying the tow truck was operated by a sub-contractor. Then they changed their story and insisted that the damage must have happened earlier - insinuating that my brother must have been driving with the emerg brake engaged!
My brother filed a case with small claims court and Honda finally was forced to pay. But they just covered half the expense incurred. My brother was fed up by then and did not pursue it. Later he had his tires replaced due to uneven wear. Nothing was ever mentioned about this TSB. No more Honda's for either of us. We have had it with them. I have had good experiences with Toyota before so it'll be Toyota from now on. Everyone I know, will also be given this info and advised to avoid Honda.
Some of you might wonder why my vehicle did not have the same prob's. I happen to be a sailor so I drive it very little. Just took it in for an oil change to Honda dealership and the Tech recommended alignment due to uneven tire wear! No mention of the TSB. Lucky for me I googled the problem and stumbled onto this forum. Thanks for this great thread. I will keep you guys posted about my car as I have called in today and made appointment for tomorrow.
Also found that the Accord 2009 & 2010 have a brake problem and Honda is treating those owners badly too. No more Honda's for me. Make this my last Honda.
After leaving the car at the dealership I called Honda Canada later in the day and they listened to me and I was given a file number and told they would let me know of their decision within 48 hrs. Note that my car has 27000 kms and I have 3 months left to complte 3 years since I purchased it.
When I went to pick up my car, BOY was I surprised! No charge for anything and I had 4 new tires! Well, THANK YOU Honda. I have no more complaint. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
From what I hear, stability control will have to be standard on all cars from 2011 on, so might be best to wait till the 2012 model hits the streets. The 3s has been very reliable after an early teething problem. The a/c has not been the strongest either. Nothing really interests me from the big 3 except the Ford Fiesta. It is a bit on the small side but it just might appeal to her. The only problem is it's a Ford product. We had two Lincoln's and a Torino growing up and they were the biggest pieces of crap, so we always looked elsewhere.
But I'd be willing to give the Fiesta a test drive to see if it could fit into our life. Time will tell.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Check out Tire Rack's Tire Survey results.
P4 was rated #1 in its class. The Uniroyals were about the middle of the pack."
Has anyone else experienced their Honda Civic rear tires going bald or wearing down really quickly--in an unusually short amount of time?
Time to replace original tires. I have a 2008 CIVIC LX with 205 width tires, but with wheels that accommodate up to 225 width (the EX model has 215, for instance). Has anyone upgraded width of their tires? If so:
1. How did this affect on-center steering? (I've been told that wider tires make steering less precise.)
2. How did this affect acceleration? (I've read that heavier tires make acceleration slower.)
3. How did this affect braking? (I assume better braking?)
4. How did this affect handling? (I've read that handling should be better.)
5. How did this affect gas mileage? (I've read that gas mileage decreases because of greater weight of tires.)
Thanks greatly for your assistance.
Zoozeekee
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
They've never been rotated. The car has under 15k miles and is over 4 years old so very light use for a short commute.
I considered replacing the pair (but for now got the tire patched) and went to tirerack for first time and saw that the ratings on the Bridgestones were low, compared to other tires they recommend for the 2007 Civic EX sedan, like a couple of Yokohamas, Continental and Michelin.
Has anyone just replaced a pair of the tires with a different brand than the Bridgestones that came with the car?
Any experiences with using tirerack and their recommended local installers?
I used to get tires at Costco but the tires they had in the 205/R16s are $100, 130 or $147 each. Tirerack is cheaper, even for the Michelins at $120.
My other daughter drives and '07 LX and has had none of these problems, although she's in Eugene, OR and doesn't see as much snow.
Is there a tire wheel combination that will allow the one with the Si to ditch the low-profiles without compromising safety? High performance handling is not an issue.
My first thought was to just switch out the wheels for those standard on an LX or EX, but I hadn't considered that the Si is lower than those and, as was pointed out earlier in this thread, there might be clearance problems.