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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    This post is for Houdini. :)

    Richard

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,269

    Mike, to me it sounds like the dealer never gave XM your contact info. I have never heard of not getting bombarded with extension come-ons before.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351

    Thanks farmer. I knew if I waited long enough someone would post what I was going to say and save me the trouble. $6800. is kind of hard to believe for that cute little vehicle. Must be a con. My wife would put me in some sort of HOME if I came driving home in one of those things.

    Everyone is doing a much better job of posting lately. Keep it up please.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @stickguy said:
    I don't think I could live without one car that has some actually utility value. Just picking up a box, or anything slightly bulky, and you need to find something else. But, that is me I guess.

    The convertible has a pretty good sized trunk when the top is down, most times we can fit tings in the trunk of at least one of the cars. There have been a few times with a larger sized item we just put the top down and put it in the back seat. Once we even brought home a couple of trees sitting in the back seats when we had the top down.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    If he is a General he should go for it.

    Only in his mind, he is just an NCO.

    Good luck with the book. It isn't easy getting published. Remember, these days you can do an e-book and it doesn't cost much. If the book takes off the publishers come to you.

    Thanks, I am trying to go the traditional route but if that doesn't work out then I will self publish as an e-book.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    The good news is 84 mpg/hwy, $6,800,

    Bad news, wouldn't want to be rear ended by a Walmart (or other) transport truck.

    I wouldn't want to be rear ended by a transport truck in anything other than a tank.

    I really don't think the Elio will go anywhere. First off it is classified as a motorcycle which means you will need a motorcycle license to drive it, I don't see many going through the trouble of getting one. Plus as a motorcycle most states will require you to have a helmet, but I hear that Elio is trying to change that.

    As for the $6,800 price tag; I think that is optimistic and I would be surprised if it it under $8K.

    As for the 84 MPG; I think that will even be harder to achieve. That's in the range of small motorcycles and scooters so I don't think they will make that mileage.

    I think this will flop.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @dino001 said:
    What is the book about?

    It's about 72K words

    Good luck with it - be patient, hope for the best.

    Thanks.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @stickguy said:
    also looks like a dale.

    It looks like this?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,269

    more like this

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @mako1a said:
    Buick is still very nice, but doesn't hold up in the resale market making all Buicks a great used car. Pontiac is no more, along with Oldsmobile. If I ran GM I would have kept Olds and dumped Cadillac even though Caddys are making a comeback.

    Mako, I agree with most of your points, but, you have to remember Buick and Cadillacs are big sellers in China, which is a much larger market than the US. For some reason the Chinese love Buicks and Caddies. That is the reason they weren't dropped.

    Hondas ride rough and Toyotas ride soft, but both are world leaders in reliability long term. Toyotas outsell Hondas about 5 to 1 so you can guess what Americans want.

    Toyota does outsell Honda but I am pretty sure Honda makes more profit. Honda isn't in the numbers game race, they are satisfied with their market share. If they try to compete on numbers they will have to invest large amounts of $$$s, and they may get sloppy - just like Toyota. It is a good business model.

    BMW, Volvo, M Benz are great while under warranty, but I wouldn't buy one after that unless it was a real bargain. Their maintenance is pricy. Not my cup of tea.

    No maintenance worries if you trade them in after 4 or 5 years depending on warranty. May not be your cup of tea, but you are missing out on great engineering, as well as handling and quality of materials.

    I'm looking for gas about $4 to $5 shortly and I expect to see cheap cars delivering 35 MPG

    Gas should probably be about $2.50 to $2.75 today with normal inflation. But my 535 gets 30 mpg on the highway........1980 cars got around 20 mpg (Chev 16 city, 24 highway), so it isn't as bad as it seemed.

    I'd go along with most other comments.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    No maintenance worries if you trade them in after 4 or 5 years depending on warranty. May not be your cup of tea, but you are missing out on great engineering, as well as handling and quality of materials.

    That begs the question, by "no maintenance worries" are you talking about costs (covered under warranty) or are you talking about frequency of work done? The thing that keeps me away from high end cars is the fact that most people tell me that they do require more work done on them. To me taking a car in for work above and beyond routine maintenance is a hassle even if it is paid for by someone else. I mean if I can go 150K miles on a $20K car with only doing routine maintenance then I better be able to do that on a $60K car.

    Gas should probably be about $2.50 to $2.75 today with normal inflation. But my 535 gets 30 mpg on the highway........1980 cars got around 20 mpg (Chev 16 city, 24 highway), so it isn't as bad as it seemed.

    IIRC I got around low to mid 20's on my 1970 Coronet with the slant 6 (high teens city).

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651
    edited June 2014

    Here's a unique car. A guitar car (a little alliteration).

    Elvis anyone?

    http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/06/strange-cadillac-guitar-car-found-rotting-in-a-junkyard-in-france/

    A 1969 El Dorado.

    "According to Cadillac Database, the car was actually created by famed Hollywood car collector and builder Jay Ohrberg. It started out life as a 1969 El Dorado before being converted into a pink guitar. It allegedly attended the Cannes film festival under its own power at some point...."

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581
    edited June 2014

    @snakeweasel said:
    IIRC I got around low to mid 20's on my 1970 Coronet with the slant 6 (high teens city).

    According to this article a 1969 Dodge Coronet Slant 6 got 15.4 mpg. You must have had a well tuned car.
    facts 1969 Dodge Coronet Slant 6

    And that's not a Super Bee!

    This may help:

    To me taking a car in for work above and beyond routine maintenance is a hassle even if it is paid for by someone else.

    Basically all the 535 needed was an oil change at about 15K miles (will be 3 yrs old in Nov). It doesn't get easier than that. I drove a low price, low maintenance rental Elantra and it will get you from A to B for the lowest possible price, but, it sure ain't going to be a lot of fun getting there.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @imidazol97 said:
    Here's a unique car. A guitar car (a little alliteration).

    Looks like it used a pinewood derby car for inspiration:

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651

    @robr2 said:
    You must also be a parent of a Scout to have Pinewood Derby in your memory!

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @imidazol97 said:
    You must also be a parent of a Scout to have Pinewood Derby in your memory!

    Yes I am. In fact his Eagle Scout court of honor is in 9 days.

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651

    @robr2 said:
    Yes I am. In fact his Eagle Scout court of honor is in 9 days.

    Congratulations to him and to you as well. My son at OSU is an Eagle Scout as well.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,167

    @robr2 said:
    Yes I am. In fact his Eagle Scout court of honor is in 9 days.

    Congrats to your son! That is a proud acheivement. My son vowed to be an Eagle, but the only constant is change...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • jpp75jpp75 Member Posts: 1,535

    @abacomike said:
    SAT RADIO/TRAFFIC/WEATHER

    Well, my Sirius subscription ended last week and I no longer get weather, traffic or radio. I thought that I would try doing without this feature in the car since we have great HD radio stations down here and I use Bluetooth to listen to the 200+ songs I have on my iPhone. So far, I really don't miss satellite services at all.

    What amazed me was the fact that I received no mail or emails trying to get me to renew my subscription - not one bit of advertising and no phone calls. That was very surprising! Usually I am bombarded with letters and email. Very surprising.

    I was a Sat radio subscriber for years, always enjoyed the variety. The Q50 is my first car with HD radio and I've found it an acceptable substitute and the sound quality is much better than SXM.

    The traffic and weather were neat but I can get the same info for free on my phone so I haven't bothered renewing.

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    Thanks for the congrats - I deserve no accolades. My son did all the work.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    I have a question. I was a member of AAA (really CAA, but really the same-Cdn Automobile Club). for about 45 years. Then, about 3 years ago I decided not to join. I don't need Tripteks with the GPS in the car, I don't need a travel agent, I have a computer, I don't need roadside assistance, it comes with the car.

    Does anyone else join or not join AAA these days? We are going to the UK for 2 weeks and so I bought some Tilley underwear there, as a non-member. You can travel the world with 2 pair, guaranteed that if you wash them at night they will be dry in the morning. But, I didn't have to be a member and I didn't get the 10% discount...not worth $60 a year.

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    I just renewed my AAA and added my son. We don't have roadside assistance anymore so it makes sense for us.

    As for underwear - I'd pay someone locally to wash my unmentionables instead of doing it in the sink.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    According to this article a 1969 Dodge Coronet Slant 6 got 15.4 mpg. You must have had a well tuned car. facts 1969 Dodge Coronet Slant 6.

    Well it is their estimate (I checked their estimates for my current ride and I know I have bested it by a few MPG's), and it is combined. I will tell you this, I had that car when I was first in the service and I drove back and forth from Ohio multiple times. On the trip I always filled it up on the last service station on the Indiana Toll road (or first depending on which direction you were going). Now I just did a goggle map thingy (yes that's a technical term) on the distance between that service area and the gas station where I would have filled up at the start of the trip, it comes to 338 miles. Now if I would have used a full tank (I remember the gas tank on that car being 20 gallons but your site has 19 so we will go with that) it would have been just under 18 MPG highway (the whole 338 miles would have been highway with three stops at toll plazas). However I would have somewhere between 1/8th to 1/4 of a tank left, that would have put me in the low 20's easily.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,153

    @driver100 said:

    "...1969 Coronet got 15.4 mpg...."

    That seems low for a 6. My 69 Plymouth Satellite (same car) with the 318 V8 got 20 on the highway and about 17 around town. Of course the way I drove it I averaged about 9mpg.

    On one trip the 74 Charger with the same 318 I managed to squeeze 21 mpg out of the smog control choked motor. (Had to do just 45 all the way).

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,269

    I belong to AAA. Our RDX comes with roadside, but the other cars don't. I like the kids to have it too. I actually use the travel site quite a bit. I like it, and find the prices to be cheaper most of the time. I can't stand the sites that are a big mystery, and everything is non-refundable.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,153

    @driver100 said:
    I have a question. I was a member of AAA (really CAA, but really the same-Cdn Automobile Club). for about 45 years. Then, about 3 years ago I decided not to join. I don't need Tripteks with the GPS in the car, I don't need a travel agent, I have a computer, I don't need roadside assistance, it comes with the car.

    Does anyone else join or not join AAA these days? We are going to the UK for 2 weeks and so I bought some Tilley underwear there, as a non-member. You can travel the world with 2 pair, guaranteed that if you wash them at night they will be dry in the morning. But, I didn't have to be a member and I didn't get the 10% discount...not worth $60 a year.

    They sell underwear at AAA? Ewwwwwww!

    I still have membership and with the junk I run it always pays for itself.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,660

    Good news for one of my kids.
    Just graduated a month ago, got a nice job offer.
    Half a hundy to start, medical bennies from day one, 401k with match, 3 weeks vaca after 2 years, some relocation expenses.
    I never had it so good. :)

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,660
    edited June 2014

    oops

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @snakeweasel said: However I would have somewhere between 1/8th to 1/4 of a tank left, that would have put me in the low 20's easily.

    If your Chrysler product had an accurate gas gauge...not sure how accurate they were.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @robr2 said:
    I just renewed my AAA and added my son. We don't have roadside assistance anymore so it makes sense for us.

    As for underwear - I'd pay someone locally to wash my unmentionables instead of doing it in the sink.

    Yeh, I agree, if I needed road side assistance it is well worth the cost. Ialso found just the discount for rental cars and motel rooms often covered the cost.

    It is hard to find a place that will wash out underwear when you are staying in a hotel in London, Dublin, Belfast, Edinborough, or Glasgow or some of these other cities. Also, it's a 15 day trip so taking 15 pairs of underwear might cost an extra $50 for overweight luggage...have to cutback somehow.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @oldfarmer50 said:They sell underwear at AAA? Ewwwwwww!

    I still have membership and with the junk I run it always pays for itself.

    Yeh, and I had to hand the packages of underwear to the pretty young lady to ring it through. Tilley underwear - you can travel the world with only 2 pair of underwear - costs $20 each!

    Speaking about cashiers, the guy on the radio was telling a story about how he was at the supermarket and he had 8 items so he went into the 12 items or less aisle. The little old lady behind him started yelling at him and told him he had a lot of nerve getting into the 12 or under line when he had a bag that had 24 buns in it. He tried to explain the package of buns are only one item, but she wouldn't accept that. He even explained at most the buns were two items, 2 sheets of buns stuck together and just perforated where you tear them apart.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651

    @driver100 said:
    12 or under line when he had a bag that had 24 buns in it.

    I know I would have had a talk with a manager before I left the store.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    Does anyone else join or not join AAA these days?

    I keep thinking I should but never needed it so far. Now watch me need it tomorrow.

    While we are on this subject they now have roadside assistance for bicycles.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    If your Chrysler product had an accurate gas gauge...not sure how accurate they were.

    Well look at it this way if I was getting 15.4 MPG with a 19 gallon tank I would have run out of gas 45 miles before I got to that gas station. Even it it was reading high I was getting way more than what that site stated was the MPG.

    But I did do the miles traveled divided by gallons used and I was getting in the low 20's.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @imidazol97 said:I know I would have had a talk with a manager before I left the store.

    Not sure I made it clear...the 24 buns were in one bag (that's how they were packaged) so he thought of them as 1 item. It would be like buying a loaf of bread and counting it as 20 slices of bread.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @snakeweasel said:I keep thinking I should but never needed it so far.

    I hadn't made a call to AAA for roadside assistance for about 20 years. Then, a few people were getting their roofs done on our street, and within 2 months we had 3 flat tires....had to call AAA. After the 3rd one they told me they wouldn't come again for one year.

    But, I hadn't used them in 20 years and now they limit me to 3X in one year! Shouldn't I get some kind of carry over like I do with a Pay as You Go phone?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @snakeweasel said:
    But I did do the miles traveled divided by gallons used and I was getting in the low 20's.

    I think there are always cars that for some unknown reason do better than average. And, as you well know, an average is just the average, some cars will do better, some worse. Your car did better, and you may have driven your car at a steady slower steady optimum speed to get the best possible results.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @driver100 said:
    It would be like buying a loaf of bread and counting it as 20 slices of bread.

    Or buying Rice Crispies and counting it as 12,000 pieces.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    @driver100 said:
    It is hard to find a place that will wash out underwear when you are staying in a hotel in London, Dublin, Belfast, Edinborough, or Glasgow or some of these other cities.

    I recommend you take your fancy new tablet, find some free wi-fi and google launderettes. I'm sure the first world cities you are visiting have them. Or ask at the front desk.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @robr2 said:
    I recommend you take your fancy new tablet, find some free wi-fi and google launderettes. I'm sure the first world cities you are visiting have them. Or ask at the front desk.

    I will have my fancy new tablet with me, and it would be easier to ask at the desk where there is a coin laundry, but a few problems. I have almost never seen a coin laundry in a major European city, our travel councelor said it will be hard to find a place to do laundry, and do you really want to spend a few hours doing laundry when you are on a vacation in some of the most interesting cities in the world?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @snakeweasel said:
    Or buying Rice Crispies and counting it as 12,000 pieces

    Or, like the judge who sentences a lady who stole a can of peaches;, "Since there were 4 peaches in the can I am going to sentence you to one day in jail for each peach you stole, 4 days in jail". "Anyone have anything else to say?" Her husband stands up and says, "Well judge, I would also like to report she also stole a can of peas".

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,804

    Here is a AAA story for you:
    My grandmother was T-Boned by a car backing out of their driveway onto a busy roadway a few weeks ago. She called Mercedes roadside assistance, and they gave her an ETC of 2.5 hours to come out and get the car through their provider.

    My Dad met her on the scene of the accident and called AAA using his membership. They were on scene within 15 minutes.

    My wife and I each have a AAA Plus membership - I have roadside assistance on my car, my wife does not, though I do not put a whole lot of faith in the contractors the car manufacturers use to support their roadside assistance programs. I think the membership is worth it for that alone, let alone the discounts I get.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651

    @driver100 said:
    @imidazol97 said:I know I would have had a talk with a manager before I left the store.

    Not sure I made it clear...the 24 buns were in one bag (that's how they were packaged) so he thought of them as 1 item. It would be like buying a loaf of bread and counting it as 20 slices of bread.

    I understood that. That's why I would have had a talk with a manager before I left the store.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651
    edited June 2014

    @28firefighter said:
    My Dad met her on the scene of the accident and called AAA using his membership. They were on scene within 15 minutes.

    My reason for AAA+ is the same. We have towing under the insurance we have. We have tire service with the Michelin tires we bought, but waiting for them after calling the 800 number
    is something I've never tried if a tire has lost air, e.g..

    Have AAA for son's car in Columbus and between home and there as well as on our cars here.
    It's probably higher on my list than Sirius will be for my Malibu.


    Edit:
    I forgot that Chevrolet will tow my Malibu. I'll have to read what all service they offer from the manufacturer for roadside as well.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651

    I've read the Sirius talk here and am waiting to see if Sirius contacts me about the trial ending on my Malibu. I find the gas station listing of little use other than historical knowledge of what stations are already behind me traveling on the interstate. The system doesn't give advance notice for someone moving at 70 mph.

    And then it offers to call the station instead of giving a quick summary of how to get there.

    I have 3 Sirius stations I like in small amount of time I've been in the car: The Bridge, Fox News, and Fox Business.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,536

    I'm another one who has a current AAA membership. Daughter's MINI and my Elantra both have roadside assistance through the manufacturer, but I like having the piece of mind.

    We've probably used it about once a year. $119 is a small price to pay.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,651
    edited June 2014

    With all the criticism of GM, there are other cars, all cars, that can have problems. I noticed this recall has a 10-year potential history and involves air bags. If your air bag doesn't work properly, you're in trouble.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/11/us-toyota-recall-idUSKBN0EM0F620140611

    "In 2013, carmakers including Toyota, Honda Motor Co (7267.T), Nissan Motor Co (7201.T) and BMW (BMWG.DE) recalled about 3.6 million vehicles because of flaws in Takata air bag inflators that could cause them to explode in an accident."

    The troubling part is that the company says the record keeping may have been flawed. They mention possibly 10 years involved in not knowing if the proper physico-chemical conditions were used for the materials and production of the airbag inflators.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,222

    @driver100 said:
    I have almost never seen a coin laundry in a major European city, our travel councelor said it will be hard to find a place to do laundry

    So I guess all those folks who live in Euroland are running around in dirty skivvies? Ewww. ;)

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386

    Oh, my problem would be the sign that says 12 items or less. It should say 12 items or fewer. Unless they were charging you by the bun I think you're in the clear.

    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @imidazol97 said:
    With all the criticism of GM, there are other cars, all cars, that can have problems. I noticed this recall has a 10-year potential history and involves air bags. If your air bag doesn't work properly, you're in trouble.

    I don't think we have a problem with recalls. All manufacturers will have them and as cars become more complex we will have more. Recalls are actually a good thing up to a point, shows the manufacturer will fix a potential problem.

    The problem is if recalls are are avoided and if there is a cover-up, especially for 10 years. That's when you have to be concerned. That indicates the manufacturer is not being responsible, and has no concern for their customers.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

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