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Regarding alignment your mechanic is correct. It is hard to get it to drive without a slight pull in either direction.
Well after a winter with some "extreme" weather of the California style, my wife had the following comment on the Pilot:
"....you know the Trooper was a better car in more than one way...".
So how do you folks like that!
The Honda is quieter, the ride is softer, the automatic is very slick, and the V6 has more power, the third row moves more people, the mileage is better, the DVD player pleases the kids.
The Trooper was debateably made with better materials and was much more content in the wet and snow. I will consider us lucky if it goes 125k with as little effort as the Trooper.
I will be very suprised if I miss it when it is replaced. I miss my Trooper. When I see Troopers drive by I think "they are lucky"!
Troop on!
-Eric
I'm a bit bummed about this - I have kept up on the maintenance and even had the tranny serviced twice (30k and 60k). I guess from what I'm readin that while the rest of the vehicle is pretty good, these trannys are the weak link.
$3,000 later I am going to see if I can get another 50-60k out of the truck without any other failures. Disappointed though! (and out of warranty)
I think at some point there is going to be a class action lawsuit with all the trooper tranny problems I have heard about recently.
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Just curious since all three of my Troopers have been manual transmission, and I'd like to know if this applies to my current 2001 Trooper 5 speed.
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Michelin LTX M/S
LT265/75R16 112LRC = 46 lbs.
P265/75R16 114S = 39 lbs.
P265/70R16 111S = 38 lbs.
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Bridgestone Dueler AT REVO:
LT265/75R16 112LRC = 48 lbs.
P265/75R16 114S = 45 lbs.
P265/70R16 111S = 41 lbs.
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The Discount Tire guy Howard told me that the LT tires have 6 ply vs the P tires are 4 ply sidewalls. Touching the sidewalls and flexing them by hand side by side today the sidewalls did not feel all that different between 4 ply and 6 ply. The other difference Howard told me about was the LT tires have heavier gauge wire used in the steel belts in the tread, if you drive every day to job sites with nails the LT would be much more puncture resistant.
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To me tire weight is proportional to MPG and it will be hard for me to go with LT tires after knowing these weights.
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Now P265/75R16 LTX M/S is looking very attractive. I would get the look of the bigger tire with much less of a MPG hit, and the LTX supposedly stay quiet all through their tread life.
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Or just get the P265/70 to save the most MPG and keep more acceleration, and not have to worry about the speedo being off by much. Hmmm...
No more auto trannies if I can help it.
Ben
2002 Trooper 4x4
I'm looking at a possible transmission replacement at 47K, and I know Isuzu will buy that for me. As for long term warranty coverage, it's anybody's guess who might provide that.
I read not long ago that ZOO had approached GM about re-investing in the company. Scary as that may seem, an association of that sort might protect current owners' warranties.
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Think on the bright side, it might be possible for many more shops to do Isuzu warrantee items for a while till Isuzu makes its USA come back with direct injection engines in sporty cars and fuel efficient diesels and diesels haybrids in SUVs etc...
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I have driven owned Isuzu Troopers from 1994 to present. Put nearly 400K combined miles on the three of them. My Troopers have have never left me stranded. But I have done a few odd things such as change a frozen fuel filter in a busy intersection at sixteen below zero, 5 minuted and really really cold hands! I was 4wheeling with a feminist activist girlfriend once and tore up a tire, she insisted on changing for me, so I just loosened and tightenned the bolts and lifted the spare into place for her. With my first Trooper I bought the shop manual, it was not needed except for valve lifter adjustments, the next two Troopers I did not get the manual, no much need to work on Troopers, they so reliable. I understand that if I ever did need to work on the Trooper for major things the parts are very expensive, but still cheap compared with some other imports. I like the idea of being a little diferent, so hard to get parts that I seldom if ever need is a small price to pay.
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Our Troopers are classics that will be driven by someone even of mostly off road for many years to come even if Isuzu does not make a timely return to the USA.
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Next to rescue my children from a failed school bus system. I stayed on the lesser travelled roads, the ones with the steep hills and ice. It is easier to pass hundreds of cars, vans, and a school bus in the ditches than to wait patiently behind hoards of cars going bumper to bumper.
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So tonight I am again very impressed by the REVO tires, which are down to only 3/32nds tread depth. I was all set to try the LTX M/S this time around lured by the promise of 80K miles, but after today's performance, getting only 50K with REVOs seems worth it.
I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I just got a 90K mile tuneup done at 97,800 miles, had new front and rear brakes, timing belt, water pump and tensioner replaced as well at 97,800 mile. 5 thousand miles and $1,500 later at 102,500 my transmission dies. It's going to take $4000 to replace since I have no warranty intact as a 2nd buyer. What should I do? Try to trade in the car as is to purchase a new vehicle (not Isuzu) or hope that after putting $4K into the car, no major damage will be anticipated. I was hoping to drive this car for at least another 60,000 miles. At this point, being unfamiliar with any other common isuzu related repairs, I'm lost as to what I should do. Any thoughts from other owners? By the way, I have a 2000 Trooper. Again, no warranty, just a lot of grief! Are there any other parts that are not japanese in the troopers???
John
It was fine until yesterday when the problem re-appeared? Out of the blue and just in time for a huge snowstorm. I think the 4wd system will work...just not on dry pavement? I am afraid of having the transfer case blow if I use TOD?
Anyway...I called, they said that they would see if it was the same problem as this summer...and would try to get Isuzu to repair/replace the transfer case under warranty. They told me last summer that replacing the transfer case would cause more problems than fixing it? So they said to see how their "fix" held up, and that they would keep my file open in case it came back.
Now I am 6 months out of warranty with a bad transfer case...it is probably the electromagnetic clutch inside, either way I think I am SOL.
This will be a good test to see how Isuzu is going to manage warranty issues going forward as related to above posts.
During the past month, I went back to the dealer with an unrelated issue. I mentioned the brake pedal problem to the tech, who quickly told me it was the brake booster, not the switch. He also said that a new booster has permanently fixed the problem each time they installed a replacement.
The service rep said he tried to get Isuzu to replace the booster, but they refused because I am now outside the 3/50 bumper to bumper warranty. Didn't matter that I had previously complained to them of the same problem while under warranty, that my file at the dealer referenced that complaint, nor that I was given wrong advice at that time by the same service rep.
I'm still chapped about that, but I am not gonna pay $440 for a new brake booster! I haven't spoken with a Regional Rep, yet, but that may be the next step.
The TOD lights are not registering as much as I would think with the rears spinning. I know the fronts are getting power, but maybe not as quickly or constant? Or it is just the lights?
I am going to get an undercarraige wash as soon as it clears up...maybe that will help the overall TOD problem...perhaps something is just frozen?
The Bridgestone Dueler A/Ts are great in the snow. Far better than the stock. I was beginning to notice a little slippage with rain, so I started to wonder if they were worth the upgrade...the snow performance was excellent.
I am mad at myself for trying to get the window to operate after truck sat outside in snow/10 deg F temps for a week. It was clearly frozen, and I should have waited until the truck warmed up in the garage or something. Same thing happened on our 1996 Trooper, but that one was warranty covered. I'm way past warranty with the '98 now.
By the way, I have 135K on my tranny and still working ok - 2001 Trooper.
4 Low should still work...you just cannot drive it on dry pavement.
If you contact Isuzu or go to isuzu.com and use their dealer locator, that may provide current info. I go to a local GM dealer for warranty work as there is no true Isuzu dealer available.
Give me your email address. Your profile does not show it.
Jim
All you guys who think GM will do the right thing if Isuzu pulls out are also dreaming. Remember a company called Daewoo that used to sell crappy little Korean cars? After they had lost enough money here they pulled out of the U.S. and stranded all their owners. Can you guess which giant corporation with the initials G.M. owned a large part of Daewoo? Once the U.S. arm of Daewoo was bankrupt, GM bought even a larger percentage of the parent company in Korea, with no obligation to the U.S. owners, at what was surely a fire-sale price. And do you know who is now selling re-badged Daewoos in the U.S.? That's right: Chevrolet! (and Suzuki). I'm surprised Suzuki doesn't have more pride. Oh, yeah, GM has them by the wallet, also. Here's a link if you don't believe it: http://www2.ctcentral.com/ctcars/fullstory.asp?ID=12202003M797
This may be interesting too. ALthough the MU-07 Sport Ute is a goner (no surprise), Isuzu did announce they are finally bringing their (Colorado clone) pickup truck to market.
http://www.isuzunewsbureau.com/download.php?id=221&type=file
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050131/lam051_1.html
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I would like Isuzu to sell all the GM models with Isuzu diesels in them:
Isuzu diesel GM minivan 25/40 MPG City/Hwy
Isuzu diesel GM SUV 25/30 MPG
Isuzu diesel SAAB GM Malibu 32/48 MPG
Isuzu diesel GM Colorado small pickup 26/31 MPG
Isuzu diesel Gm 2.8L full size pickup 24/29 MPG
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The Isuzu versions would have the better interior controls more like Toyota and Honda than GM, and prabably fewer bells and whistles and a lower price even with the diesel.
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GM could use the Isuzu sold units as part of its overall fleet MPG emissions numbers to help keep the government regulators off their backs.
I tried to explain to them that the clutch is a mechanical component and that the computer may not tell them it is not working properly. After the service rep told me "that is how 4wd is supposed to work" and "other troopers drive like yours"...I asked him if he drove it.
Short answer..."No". I need a new transfer case...they should have replaced it last summer under warranty, now they are balking.
So much for this. I am either...going to have to live with not having 4wd for wet/slippery conditions or shell out some serious $$ to get it fixed. Isuzu is not paying for this one, and the dealer is flat out refusing to even acknowledge a problem.
Now I have to drive 45 minutes, family in tow, to demonstrate this problem to them...for which they tell me is normal.
BTW the mechanics tested it against another truck and said it was normal. When I asked what year...they said 96. I am fairly upset at this point.
The rep drove it Friday and they are going to keep it until Monday when their Isuzu tech is in.
I think the short of it is that they know Isuzu won't give them any cash for something to be fixed under warranty and they are doing everything they can to get out.
Other car is a convertible. Can't help myself!