Isuzu Rodeo

toddco · August 2001

Here's what I've got so far, and would welcome any and all comments:

OME Coil Springs : OME913 (http://www.tennesseeoffroad.com/ is where I found the part number)

Rancho 9000 shocks: RS9136 front, RS9179 rear

265/75-16 Pirelli Scorpions OR
265/70-16 Yokohama Geolandar A/T Plus II

raydahs · August 2001

Here's a link to the OME distributor if you wish to verify those #'s http://www.arb.com.au/ARB_Contact.htm

paisan · August 2001

Matt at http://independent4x.com can get OMEs IIRC and Dan at http://hotrodoffroad.com also.

-mike

Boris2 · August 2001

Does anybody know if the rear step (on the rear bumper) on '01 Rodeo is actually designed for stepping on it? On one hand it looks like that's why it's there, on the other hand, though, it feels kind of shaky and not strong enough to step or stay on it.

cwm38 · August 2001

I just installed the Monroe Matic Plus, PN: 32336 front and 32337 rear shocks on my 2000 Rodel LS. They have made a 100% improvement! Large bumps are still there but don't rattle your bones! You don't pay attention to small bumps. Now when I drive over washboard gravel roads I can go 30 mph in comfort, instead of going 5 mph and getting the vehicle and me jarred to pieces with the original shocks. I do not rock climb with my expensive Rodeo. But we can now enjoy dirt and gravel roads. The shocks are parts for the 98 rodeo but are perfect for my 2000. The mechanic had great difficulty removing the rears. The upper bolt is so close to the body and it was lock-tite secured. Plus the shock body rotated so no where to apply leverage. They cut the tops off and then grasp the shaft. That did it. I paid $18 per shock installation at Goodyear and it was well worth it. Shocks cost $24 each at Checkers!!! Cheers to all..

ryanv1 · August 2001

Yes I have noticed in my 2000 Rodeo that I always need to add oil about every 2000 km's. I have told the dealer about this several times and now they are actually looking at it( before it was said "due to engine breaking in" ) They are now running an engine oil consumption test and I am to go back there when I have driven another 1500 km's without adding any oil. My guess is that the Rings are faulty but time will tell. Since I drive about 100 km's a day I will be able to update this msg again in about 1 month's time. If anyone else has had that problem and has had it resolved please let me know what you found out. Thanks

paisan · August 2001

It is a known fact that many 3.2 and 3.5l DOHC Isuzu engines consume 1Q per 1000 miles. I switched to synthetic and it uses only 1 Q per 2600-3000 miles now.

-mike

Boris2 · August 2001

It's not only common, but according to Isuzu dealer it's "normal". I posted message here asking advise about this problem and I got a reply from somebody that that's how it's supposed to be. I called 4 dealer (every single dealer there is in this area - Denver, CO) and the response was: It's normal. They claim that the rings are designed to be "harder" than on other vehicles and so that extra oil goes there. Doesn't make much sense to me but they won't do anything about it as long as the oil consumption is not much greater than 1qt per 1000 mi, because that's "within factory specs" as they claim.

paisan · August 2001

And I know guys with 200K miles on their Troopers that have been burning about 1/2-1Q per 1000 miles.

-mike

tommcnabb · August 2001

I've got a 2001 Rodeo 4wd. Switched to Mobil 1 at 1200 miles. Now have almost 6K and have burned absolutely no oil. I don't know if it's Mobil 1 or not, but look at other info from other Mobil 1 users and make your own judgment. It works for me. I get mine from Costco (a warehouse club) and pay 21 bucks for a six pack. BTW, I also use the Mobil 1 filter.
--Tom

paisan · August 2001

I also use Mobil 1, significantly decreased my oil consuption on my '00 Trooper.

-mike

armtdm · August 2001

Purchased at 57,000. Engine had no sludge but a definite brown slime in vavle cover area from use of dino oil. Don't know origin of SUV (Carmax) but a local drive in sale. Switched to Amsoil 10W30 immediately. First change at 3000 with oil analysis to see if slime would be an issue but analysis looked great. Going to 7,500 next then once a year. Anyway, oil consumption looks like it will be about 20-24 ounces in 7,500 miles and this, I feel, is mostly from two seal seepages that were there upon purchase, rear seal and another somewhere around alternator.

Pleased with oil use, seals another story. Using a filter about 2 inches longer then OEM this time but due to hoses in way will return to Amsoil OEM size filter.

Looks like my oil seepage is less then your oil burning!!!!!!

chipface · August 2001

Traded in a 1999 durango slt for 2000 rodeo
ls.(alloys mats,6disc) Have 10k on it, never been to the dealer. No squeaks ,rattles, rubs etc.
Fit and finish very good. Added KnN filter and flowmaster delta flow 40 series muffler. Get around 15mpg in town. rd suv I've owned, best so far for quality, price and warranttey

dchopp · August 2001

What didn't you like about the Durango? My company vehicle is a Durango and I like it. It rides real nice unlike Consumer report said it had a harsh ride. I usually don't listen to them anyway.
DCH

gt1953 · August 2001

is it to late to change over to Mobil 1

paisan · August 2001

I just changed my '88 Subaru XT6 over to mobil 1 at 73K miles.

-mike

suvshopper4 · August 2001

I heard from a reputable mechanic (on the radio) that changing to synthetic oil in an engine that is not 'young' can have a bad result - that the synthetic oil will find leaks the conventional 'dino' oil did not.

ejp

paisan · August 2001

You could run into those problems, but if you do, you can always switch back to dino.

-mike

drew_ · August 2001

...at 6-7pm Pacific/9-10 pm Eastern. Hope to see you there!

http://www.edmunds.com/towchat/isuzuchat.html

acurahad · August 2001

Changing to a syn. oil will not cause seals to leak.The seals will leak only if they already have cracks & or if the cracks have caked up gunk on the inside of a seal,that's keeping the Dino oil from leaking. The syn. oil will clean the inside of the engine. A good guide point to a good syn. oil is to look a the tech sheet & take a look at the Visicosity Index number the higher the number, the better the oil.
Putting syn. oil in a high mileage car will not hurt the engine. I would change the oil filter sooner since it will clean the inside the engine.

driverjoe · August 2001

What's up with the 98's... Does everyone who have hate their's. I'm thinking about getting one because the price is right with the features that it has. Are they all a crappy as they are made out to be?

paisan · August 2001

Were the first year of a new body style, engine, etc, there were a lot of growing pains for the rodeo that year.

-mike

driverjoe · August 2001

Does that mean, I shouldn't get one?
Is it worth my time to look at them still?
Will people be selling me used pieces of junk?

paisan · August 2001

to look at em, just make sure it's got decently high milage, and that it's a good price. Oh and have a mechanic look at it. Common problems are improperly balanced tires.

-mike

driverjoe · August 2001

Well,... Thanks for the input..
I'll test drive one. The dealer that is selling it offers an extended warranty... It's worth a look I suppose. After reading some of these comments, I'm a bit skeptical.
By the way,... what do you consider "decently high mileage"?

danimal11 · August 2001

I read a couple posts about a rattle in the back door. I am having the same problem. What was the cause? Were you able to have it fixed? I also have a problem with the wheel vibration, but the dealer said they didn't find anything. I printed up a couple of the previous posts, hopefully it will help to convince them to look at the balancing.

drew_ · August 2001

...at 6-7pm Pacific/9-10 pm Eastern. Hope to see you there!

http://www.edmunds.com/townhall/chat/isuzuchat.html

paisan · August 2001

I think it requires a Hunter 9000 tire-balancing. You might just go find a place that has one and pay for it yourself, less aggrivation.

-mike

jimmyp1 · August 2001

Don't know what it was, but the dealer took care of mine with some "adjustments" per the service ticket. This was under warranty, but it couldn't have taken them more that a few minutes.

Jim

stewsir · August 2001

I have a '96 and I love it. Had it for about a year and a half with no problems. About a year into it, though, the rear brakes would squeal pretty loudly only when I used them when slowing while reversing. I took it to midas for pads and they said it didn't need anything, that it was just dust. I spent extra time cleaning them and they were fine for about 2 hours, then the squealing started again. Was midas wrong? would new pads fix the problem? is the noise the only problem? because they seem to work fine, its just the noise is embarrassing. Also, my "check engine" light just came on. What is THAT all about? I have about 52k miles on it. Thanks.

drew_ · August 2001

...at 7-8pm Pacific/10-11 pm Eastern. Hope to see you there!

http://www.edmunds.com/townhall/chat/isuzuchat.html

littleproc · September 2001

how does the dealer get the transmission fluid back into the transmission with no dipstick?

paisan · September 2001

for the AT on the Isuzus.

-mike

jonnah · September 2001

I posted a message earlier on the board about my 2000 Rodeo making a clicking or poping sound as I make sharp turns. Since then I have taken it into the dealer and they replaced the rotors and pads but the problem still exists. They say there is nothing wrong. Now I get the same noise when backing up, applying the brakes, then going forward while turning. Could this be the pads adjusting, and will the problem eventually work it self out?

drmp · September 2001

I have noticed that on my '99 Passport and almost all of my parent's cars. These are the pins that holds the pads in place while at the same time allow the pads to slide in or out as these grip the rotors. There is a little degree of clearance, otherwise the pads will not move. And that's the click when you first stop when backing up or after backing up. Subsequent stops will have no clicks because the pins already moved to one side. Disc brakes are self-adjusting.

By the way these pins wear out and are one of replacement parts (in a kit) when replacing the pads.

armtdm · September 2001

A pain to change without dipstick. My independent mechanic would not even touch it as the fill plug was straight up (afraid fluid would just pour back out) and not on the side on my 97 Rodeo. Finally I molded a plastic tubing to form a hook shape and attached the tubing to my fluid pump and pumped it in. I don't like starting the engine, getting underneath while running and adding (topping off) fluid again until it comes out which is the recommended way to refill the tranny fluid.

I use synthetic ATF. Get new gaskets for the drain and fill plugs by the way. I did not and had to do the job twice as the old gaskets leaked.

paisan · September 2001

I'll be here!

http://www.edmunds.com/chat/isuzuchat.html

-mike

tommcnabb · September 2001

Help, I've got a stock 2001 4WD Rodeo. As is well known, this thing's probably got the lowest ground clearance in its class. I'm not Bill Gates, so what's the most cost effective and efficient way to get some more clearance? Any notes / links would help. I thought about a whole kit from Calmini but that's almost a grand.
On another note, if Isuzu created an off-road package, like Toyota's TRD, I bet they'd sell the heck out of them.
Thanks,
Tom

paisan · September 2001

You are thinking of min ground clearance. The Rodeo is a great off-road truck even stock. As for lifts... Talk to matt from http://independent4x.com he can hook you up with anything calmini can at a significant discount. Tell him I sent you.

-mike

rndhahn · September 2001

Does anyone know why Edmunds list the TMV for the 2001 Rodeo LS at $2,500 less than INVOICE? Can you really buy that far below invoice or is that taking some other factor into acount?

I am debating between the Rodeo LS and the Toyota Highlander. Any advise?

paisan · September 2001

The Axiom is more Highlander-like. The reason for the discount on the rodeo is that there is a rebate on them.

-mike

drmp · September 2001

8+ inches of minimum ground clearance is pretty respectable even for off roading. Trust me, unless you're going to Moab or do some crazy things like jumping over a big log instead of going around it, you'll rarely wish for higher ground clearance. Just curious, where do you go for off roading? I bet many people call road trails and gravel roads "off road" which even passenger cars can travel.

Have you wondered why the Trooper and the Montero got controversial? Well, you will sacrfice the Rodeo's nice handling when you increase the clearance.

tommcnabb · September 2001

Thanks for the tips. I'll look into the independent 4x.

Tom

paisan · September 2001

Anyone in the Northeast there will be a Subaru/Isuzu Event this saturday. Check out http://isuzu-suvs.com/events for details.

-mike

raybear · September 2001

Steve-there's up to $2,500 dealer cash on the car.

hutch97 · September 2001

Purchased a set of Passport tires and rims for my 97 Rodeo. The lug pattern fits but I had to apply pressure to get the rim over the front hub.
I was told 'informally' they would fit. I pulled the rim back off and put the original back on. Any suggestions? The passport rims are aluminum. Do I need to sell the rims?

paisan · September 2001

The center caps are probably different. Try taking off the center caps and it willprobably fit.

-mike

Boris2 · September 2001

I was reading my manual lately and they said that some of the Rodeo's are equipped with limited slip differentials which, as they explained, move the power to the other side of the axle (front or rear) in case if one of the wheels starts to spin. In other words if the right front wheel is spinning on ice, the force would be transferred to the left front wheel. They didn't specify if 100% of the force or only part though...

Does anybody know how to find out if mine is equipped with limited slip diff.?

paisan · September 2001

They only have LSDs in the rear. The fronts are always "open" diffs which means power shifts from side to side, to the side with least resistance. I think there is a way to tell from the VIN # if it has an LSD. Also it would have been listed on the sticker. Another way is to crawl under the rear and look for a sticker that says "put in LSD lubricant when changing the diffy fluid" and the final way is to jack up the rear and spin the tires. If they spin in the same direction you have LSD, if they counter rotate, it's an open diffy.

-mike

dchopp · September 2001

There are several ways to tell. If your model is an LS or higher, It should have one. Its standard on the 2000 LS Models. Inside the Engine Compartment by the drivers side there is a MFG.Code Label with lots of numbers on it. It spells out your vehicle with all the options installed in code of course. Look for the number G80. This number indicates LSD. Another way is to jack up the rear and turn the wheels. If the both turn in the same direction its an LSD. If they turn in opposite directions, sorry you lose.
DCH

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