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I will let you know if we get one.
PS bgritz you are right the engine on this thing will flatten out I-70 west no problem, especially compared to the 4 cylinder altima it will replace!!
Also I would like to purchase a bike carrier for the roof rack. Besides the 'Anklebiter' (price $134.00) sold by nissan, are there other vendors?
I am not aware of any special rebates or incentives in Texas.
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txbluenote
Absolutely. Let the dealer know that you have options. Prices in Canada are much cheaper (not that we are considering this option), gas prices are still high, and the dealer across town or state is offering 28,500 on the same vehicle. These options can be played around with to get you a better deal. Check what other local dealers are offering. Let them know the same thing. I played around with these same ideas to cop my deal. Oh yeah, don't forget to mention that in Canada pathy's have power antennae and AWD for relatively the same price. They really want to make a sell so you are in good shape.
Good luck,
The beefchuck
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My 2001 SE is about 6 months old now and i was looking over the window sticker recently along with the PF brochure book..I was reading anout limm slip differential in the brochure but didnt see it on my window sticker..Is this standard with all PF's or is it an option that i dont have..If it is an option,is it something i should look into getting??I also noticed that my window sticker mentioned heated outside mirrors..However when we had freezing ice/snow here I recall them not melting/ridding of the ice unless i chipped at it with a scraper..Is there a way to turn them on??BTW I used the Oxiclean and it worked great on the seats!!!I noticed one option that i have is in cabin microfilter..What is this??
I just signed a contract yesterday for a 2001 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4x4 in Sierra Silver.
I got the floor mats
in cabin microfilter
body colored side moldings
front grille guard
taillight guards
rear push bar
upgraded car alarm
plus destination and ad fees
I paid $28,688.68 after the $500 rebate and I also got the 3.9% financing.
Is this a good deal? I live in Brooklyn, NY
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The heated mirrors are turned on by a button. The large button to the left of the radio with the heat symbol (next to the hazard light) will turn on the heated mirrors and the rear window heater. They will turn off automatically after X minutes (15? 20?...chk the owner's manual).
The microfilter in a filter in the ventilation system that cleans the passenger compartment air as it circulates via fan use. It can be replaced when 'used up' (filled with....dust or whatever).
Tom
Thanks.
I used APA (automobile protection agency) in Toronto to give me dealer invoice price. and i paid $850 Canadian over invoice. No haggling the purchase took 2 minutes and i was out of the lot. They had my color LOL. I was charged $699 can. for the Brushguard which i wanted for sure. To give it more rugged and masculine look :-))
LSD does come standard with the 5-speed manual which is available on the SE only. IT is an option with the Automatic.
Now for prices the wife and I are looking at getting a 2001 SE 4WD 5m. The best price that we have been able to get so far is $27,450 here in Northern California. I also checked up in Canada for a SE which has everything that we want standard and the price up there is $36,165 canadian dollars= $23,119.90 US. Might be going up there..
The suspensions were stiff enough to whiz through some terrain that I thought might be rough, there was no bottom out. My goal was to hit only easy green trails but ended up (accidently) on some more difficult trails but was able to get through without any problems. Overall, I was impressed and surprise with the truck's performance.
Here's the link to some pics that I took.
Hollister Hills
Contrast it to the Durango boards. Plagued with problems and frequent mentions of lemons etc.
If Lisa aka "luvboxers" (bulldogs) is still lurking she can provide her personal testimonial. She owned a Durango witch was bought back under lemon laws or traded at a major loss (can't recall exactly). She then bought a new 01 PF and raved about quality and value of the PF.
As someone else mentioned compare 13mpg of the Durango to the roughly 17mpg of the PF, and the gas issue is easily in the PF's court. Yes the Durango has more room, and may tow a little more (don't know this for sure). But the 240hp 01 PF engine is smooth as silk and very quiet.
Still loving mine after 1 year and 12 k miles. I have owned 14-15 cars in the last 8 years and have not been as satisfied with any of them (except my 99 Accord) as I am with the PF.
Regarding the PF vs the Durango, I believe I read on the Edmunds test drive that the PF had a one second better acceleration time in the quarter mile than the Durango.
I drive up a slight hill getting up the driveway. When stopping there for the garage door to open, the car rolls backwards down the hill (no break applied), all the way to the bottom, with the engine going.. it's like the auto-transmission is not enguaged at all.. when idling. Anyone else notice this? My other cars would hold the position when idling.. no roll backwards.
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Scott
I think everyone here agrees that the ride on the Pathfinder is much better, but the Durango is not that bad either. It's all depends on what you really like. Test drive and compare.
Good luck
I estimated my gas cost for a year for both the PF and D, and even with premium fuel it's still cheaper to drive the PF(I figured 14 mpg with the D and 17 mpg with the PF). So I feel better about that. I was browsing the D message board and you're right, there is a lot more discussion about problems than in here. I don't think there's any question that the PF has an edge in reliability. Aside from scheduled maintenance, I've only had my 98 SE in for service once. The 96 Dodge Avenger I had previous to that was in the shop once every couple of months with a different problem. The other thing I found out is that the D only has 3 more cubic ft of cargo space than the PF(88 vs. 85), so even though the D looks bigger, it's not by much. Gee, can you tell which one I'm leaning toward?
I posted my next question in the finance board, but didn't get much of a response yet so I'll throw it out in here. Has anyone had experience with returning a lease vehicle with excess miles? I ended up having to travel quite a bit for my job last year and put on almost 3k miles/month for a while. Needless to say, I'll have about 65k miles when my lease expires in June which is 26k over the limit. It would cost me about $4k in mileage charges to just return it, so I was planning on buying it at lease-end and then try to re-sell it. The buyout price is a little over $20k, which is more than what it's worth(roughly $18k market value). Either way I'm expecting to take a loss, but I'd like to minimize it as much as possible. Does anyone know if dealers are willing to negotiate mileage charges if I'm willing to do business with them again?
Thanks again.
I have been told that you cannot do much with it unless the PF is in Park, is this true? Can you reroute yourself, find points of interest, etc.? I realize that this should not be done while moving for safety reasons but if there is someone in the passenger seat...
I assume there is a subscription service to keep the CD database updated (for each region), how often are updates sent out and how much do they cost?
How much detail is provided when outside of the "detail coverage zones"? Just major highways?
Anyone had anything go wrong with the system? Repair costs?
Do you feel that it was worth the extra $2K?
Thanks!!!
You get one updated CD with the system then if you want to purchase additional CD's they are $ 150.00 a piece.
When you are outside the "detailed coverage area" it has all major roads and some minor roads. It does not have any points of interest.
Overall I feel that it is great, I only wish that it was DVD based so that the entire country was on one disk....Let me know if you have any other questions..
1. Nissan is heavily discounting the Pathfinder. More than I would have expected for a 2001 vehicle that has been significantly improved. For example: new engine and transmission.
2. The vehicle rides like a car. Very smooth ride.
3. The car is noisey. Interior noise levels are higher than the Toyota Highlander that I test drove a couple of weeks ago. The Highlander has an even smoother, car-like ride than the Pathfinder. I test drove an Infiniti QX4 which is much quieter and a little smoother than the Pathfinder.
4. Gas mileage for the Pathfinder is medicore. Especially, considering it requires premium fuel. The Highlander gets much better gas mileage, and only requires regular fuel. This is a significant plus for the Highlander, given the cost of fuel.
5. The Pathfinder has a very modest payload capacity of 795 pounds. This equates to approximately 4 adults and a briefcase. The Highlander has a payload capacity of 1100 pounds. Not bad for a car-based SUV.
6. The Pathfinder has very little headroom above the rear seats. I'm 5'10" and my head scraped the ceiling with the rear seat backs in the fully upright position. Of course the rear seats recline, but you should not have to recline them to prevent your head from bumping the ceiling. I'd hate to have someone taller than me in the rear seat and then hit a pothole. I'd feel sorry for their head.
7. The rear cargo area also has a tight distance between the floor and the ceiling. Much smaller than you would expect. The Highlander has a wider distance between the rear floor and the ceiling. This could limit the ability to carry some cargo.
8. The rear seats have very little leg and foot room. Too tight for a $30,000 + vehicle.
9. The PF is using rear drum brakes instead of 4 wheel disc brakes. My 1988 Honda had rear drum brakes. What's up with this Nissan?
10. The rear doors don't open very wide. They force you to rub your clothes against the rear door/wheel wells as you enter or exit the vehicle. Thus getting your clothes dirty.
Overall, I think the Pathfinder is nice, but it falls a little short. Hopefully, the next major re-design will address these issues. Nissan is a good company that sells it's vehicles at decent prices. However, for $30,000 I expect a little more.
First of all, I think this is a great board. Many posters here seem very knowledgeable. Secondly, a vehicle as fine as the 2001 PF deserves a board like this. It is awesome to share our experiences with a work of art like the PF.
With 2 kids, I just had to trade my 97 Acura 1.6 EL. I was getting claustrophobic everytime I had to use this car. We batted around the idea of trading to a Sienna or Odyssey. A combination of poor experiences with a 93 Merc Villager and the relatively small cost increase to get the PF led us to purchasing this SUV.
Now the finanicals for those of you who are interested. Bear in mind all figures are in Canadian dollars. Also note the different features in a Canadian SE trim >>> these include: AWD, power moonroof, fender flares, rear spoiler, upgraded suede-like upholstery, aluminum step rails and 65 series tires. What the Canadian SE lacks in comparison to the LE is leather, climate control and power seats. NAV and mobile TV are not avaiable in Canada from Nissan.
$40,200.00 MSRP
- 3,600.00 Discount
$36,600.00 NET
962.00 Freight
500.00 GAS & A/C Tax
150.00 Dealer Prep
5,731.80 Tax @ 15%
$43,943.80 Cdn on the road
Any fellow Canadians think this is a fair deal. At the prevailing outrageous exchange rates, it is undoubtedly a great deal for Americans!
P.S. They gave me $13,300.00 for my 97 Acura 1.6 EL Premium which had 75,000 km on the odo. Car had leather, roof, rear spoiler, auto tranny & security. For the Americans, an Acura 1.6EL is a glorified Honda Civic 4-door sedan.
All comments greatly appreciated.
I was told by my dealer this was a hit and miss proposition due to the computer chip embbedded keys. I'm wondering if he is full of *** !!!
Not to mention all the other uses you can get out of a notebook computer. If you already have a notebook with a DVD, then you just saved $3000! I'm using my notebook/nav system/entertainment system to type this message. I think I will put the $3000 I saved toward an 11" GPS based telescope that will automatically point to and track any planet, nebula or galaxy in the sky. A perfect toy to pack into the SUV for a trip into the mountains for some serious dark sky observing. My 2 cents anyway! We are going to pick up our Pathfinder LE with everything except these discussed options on Saturday, can't wait!
All PFs are made in Japan. period! The difference between 3.5L 6cyl 5M and 3.5L 6cyl 4A is the transmission. 3.5L 6 cycl 5M has a manual transmission while 3.5L 6 cycl 4A has an automatic transmission. The manual transmission costs less than the automatic transmission. Hence the difference in price that you alluded to. I hope this helps.
1. Yup, heavy discounts..I think this is mostly due to the overall car market being depressed. After the Highlander has been on the market awhile, I'm sure there will be discounts for them too.
2. Yup, PF has a nice ride for an SUV
3. Hmm...the PF is pretty quiet...for an SUV. Haven't driven the HL, so you may be right...but the PF is quieter than any other SUV I've been in (haven't been in an RX300, either :-))
4. Yup, HL is better...but 15/19 vs 18/22 is not a huge diff
5. Don't know about your payload numbers. Edmunds lists 1001 lbs for PF vs 1100 for HL...not much diff
6. You're right on the headroom...lucky for me, my family has no 6 footers :-)
7. Cargo space is 85 for PF vs 81 for HL...so, if the PF gives up vert space (the least useful dimension) the HL must be giving up even more in the other 2 dimensions
8. You're right on the rear legroom...my son agrees. It's still a lot better than many sedans
9. I agree with you on the rear brakes
10. Rear door entry...another negative I agree with
There are other areas that the PF betters the HL, though. For one, the towing capacity is only 3500 lbs (vs Pf's 5000 w/ auto trans). This would disqualify it for me since I tow a 4500 boat/trailer. Also, less power and torque (not a lot, PF:240/265 vs HL:220/222) but significant for towing. PF has an extra inch of ground clearance. The PF has an extra inch of front legroom.
As for price, I didn't crunch the numbers (I gotta work, ya know) but...although the HL's list price is lower than the PF's, a quick glance at the HL's option list makes me think that an HL equipped like an LE would cost much more.
Just my 2cents...you probably wouldn't go wrong with either one.
Tom
Thank you both for your input. I would agree that if the system does not move with you on the map as you go, it is no better than a regular old paper street map, so much for effective use of technology. I have an appt. tomorrow to do another test drive and I am planning on giving the nav system a good run through to help make my decision.
npathfinder,
Can you please confirm (since you have the nav system) that you can operate the nav system with the PF in drive? This is one of my biggest concerns. Also, how do you find using the climate control system with the touch screen?
If anyone else has any input on the Nissan nav system or any of the aftermarket ones (Alpine's, Garmin's street pilot portable, etc.) I sure would appreciate it.
Thanks!
Brent
I have the NAV system in my Pathfinder LE and I LOVE it. The system works flawlessly and it has been able to "navigate" me to so many places where I was clueless about!
I'd have to disagree with starchecker... the system DOES pinpoint your location on the map in realtime as you drive. But to answer your question about usability... There are safety measures built into the system where input functions are limited while the car is moving. Therefore, while your driving, you can't enter a destination unless it is already in your "Address Book" (which stores 99 locations or one of 10 previous locations you manually entered. When you are moving, you can also "touch" the screen and it will give you several options... two of which are the most useful... "where am I" which shows your current location and the the streets ahead of you... as well as "Quickstop"... which bascially allows you to find ATMs, BANKs, Restaurants, Gas Stations, etc, "near" your current location.
Other than the above mentioned features, the rest of the input features are disabled while the car is moving. You don't have to be in Park when you want to input entries... the car just can't be in motion.
As for the on screen climate control... works fine... I'd prefer the climate control panel on standard Pathfinders, but I guess dash space limitations prevent them from including it.
Overall, I highly recommend the NAV system if you can find a Pathfinder with one! I would just check and make sure that you're located in an area where there is detailed info. I live in the bay area, CA and there is A LOT of information! Even when you go outside of detailed areas, there is still good info. Best of luck on your purchase!
you mentioned that you could pinpoint longitude and lattitude on the nav system... how do you do that??? I can't figure out how to do that on mine. Any info would be great! Thanks!
I have the Garmin eTrex (not a mapping model). I use it for backpacking, hiking, fishing, boating, and driving. I set up a track or route the night before my trip on the PC and then upload it to my GPS.
If I decide to get off of the highway in a large city, and have to make several turns to get to the fast food restaurant that I want, I can just follow my path back to the highway (no more of the "do I remember driving past that building?" game).
If I were to use my GPS strictly for driving, I would get the Garmin ColorMap. Every time I drive anywhere with my GPS, I see big advantages to having a mapping model.
I wanted something that can really handle off road driving and the Highlander does not have the extra-low gear for rugged off-roading
Strange on how people can differ in their buying decision for a vehicle
A majority of Highlander owners are happy with it so Good Luck and happy driving