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ab348 · February 2017

abacomike said:
One of the "negatives" of my new HDTV is that it is so crystal clear and sharp, I was able to see Leslie Stahl's (60 Minutes reporter) imperfect complexion and the tiniest wrinkles on face and around her eyes. Scott Pelly's face isn't so perfect either!

Well, Lesley is 75 years old so she's allowed a few wrinkles.

graphicguy · February 2017

Been using Turbo Tax for probably a dozen years. Pretty amazing how far it has come. Pretty darned simple these days. Got close to the "ideal" owe no/get no taxes back. Not quite teh zero we all strive for, but I owe the Feds $19.....state of Ohio owes me $22. Cost of Turbo Tax was about $50. So, I'm a little in the red all totaled. I'll take it.

fintail · February 2017

Do you know that the car really exists yet? Do you have a VIN? I'd want a specific reason for the delay - I can't believe it is an issue of federalization. MB definitely builds some models for easy US import, and I don't know what these models would lack to hold them up at Canadian ports. It's not a new engine, and the W213 sedan has been on these shores since late spring. Something is odd there.

When it comes to adding some features, it often can't be done. I forget what you wanted to add, but something like driver's assist is a bundle. If it isn't ala carte on the order form, it likely can't be added later.

driver100 said:

I was thinking of softening my approach too, and your post confirms what I am thinking. My first draft was pretty aggressive, but, I think just a polite exploratory email will accomplish more.

Thanks houdini.....very helpful!

fintail · February 2017

I must be a go-getter, I got my relatively small refund 2 weeks ago. Took 8 days from the time I filed, which was the same day that Vanguard docs were released. I used TurboTax, which has worked for me for years. No reason to extend the interest-free loan any longer than needed

graphicguy · February 2017

nyccarguy said:
Catching up after a weekend skiing with my family. @sda - congrats on the new gig & getting your pilot back. You've taken excellent care of it and that Bali Blue paint really shines.

@graphicguy - we are here for you. Keep fighting!

Thanks, Bradd! That's the plan!

Good to spend time with family. That's something you'll never regret.

ab348 · February 2017

It may be more than just a "missing part" with @driver100 's car. Look here:

http://canada.autonews.com/article/20161020/CANADA/161019815/mercedes-benz-canada-blames-2017-product-delay-on-vw-scandal

Maybe "Blame VW" is the new "Blame Canada".

qbrozen · February 2017

my taxes will be quite challenging this year. I have yet to begin. I know I have not gotten all the paperwork I need. I have used TaxAct for maybe 15 years or so, I think.

fintail · February 2017

If the regulators are really screwing people around, they need to be called out, personally.

tjc78 · February 2017

Taxes were odd this year. Owed the state, but got back a boatload of Federal. Even after the account's fee the refund is paying for vacation plus some to tuck away. I'll take it.

28firefighter · February 2017

I need some advice.

Our home here in Seattle is 3 years old - we bought it as a new build. It came with a one year builders warranty that has since expired.

Last week the roof roof started leaking into Sam's nursery. They sent their roofer out (different than the people who installed it) to assess it and they found the source. In talking with the roofer, his opinion is that the original installer did not follow standards around the area of the leak, which is by the gutter drains, in favor of saving time.

The builder is refusing to pay pay for the repairs to the roof as well as for the interior damage, instead suggesting I make a homeowners claim - no way I'm doing that. I don't believe it'll be that expensive. I want to fight him but I need this leak fixed ASAP and do not have time to wait for them to come around.

My thought is to have the whole thing repaired and get a written assessment with photos of the work, and then depending on cost and opinion of root cause, take the builder to small claims if it is indeed a construction defect.

Any other thoughts suggestions for how to proceed?

suydam · February 2017

imidazol97 said:

stickguy said:
1 more year of saving on taxes with the extra dependent, and her tax credits. Though when that goes away (2018 tax year), the tuition payments are also long gone, as will be many of the carrying costs (car, insurance, phone, etc.). Hey, if she is claiming herself, I better not be supporting her!
Yeah. But you'll be doing her taxes too. Another set. That's what I've had to do even after Imid Jr. got a job.

Why? Doesn't he know where the nearest H&R Block is?

imidazol97 · February 2017

qbrozen said:
I know I have not gotten all the paperwork I need. I have used TaxAct for maybe 15 years or so, I think.

I just got what I hope the last paperwork on Saturday: a buyout of a stock taken over by another company. I barely remember it happening. Capital gains. I recall getting reworked tax papers very late in February. I never file until a few days before the deadline on the advice of my CPA I used long ago.

imidazol97 · February 2017

suydam said:
Why? Doesn't he know where the nearest H&R Block is?

Frankly, I wouldn't let him go to crooks like those and other similar offices are. Of course based on what I've heard, they could get him earned income tax credits and other things that really aren't legal--but only if you get caught are they illegal, LOL.

A friend of ours here worked in one of the area offices of an advertised brand I won't name, and then ended up being manager at our local office. The stories she told about how they take advantage of people with what are actually loans giving them their own future tax refund money back were sinful. The charges she cited were even worse. They're even worse than the payday check stores that Ohio legislators tried but weren't able to control.

My son probably has facilities as part of his work location for tax prep when I can't do it with him. So far it's simple as long as he avoids capital gains items in any investments that are not tax sheltered.

suydam · February 2017

Our taxes are complicated so we use a CPA. She has saved us more than enough over the years than her fees. A good CPA IS wonderful! I'm sure Sandy will appreciate the plug for his wife's occupation.
I think my kids use Jackson and Hewitt. Are they crooks too?

graphicguy · February 2017

Test drove the Fusion Sport yesterday. Not bad....pretty disappointing interior for a car that is knocking at the $40K door. It felt heavy, but no doubt it's quick.

Also test drove a '16 328i xDrive. Very nice car...familiar BMW "feel". Not sure what all the whining about in the trade rags about the steering. It felt responsive to me. Interiors of BMWs all have a similar layout and look. It's practical, ergonomic, nice all the way around. The one I drove didn't have sport seats. That's too bad, as BMW does sports seats well. Aside from that, plenty of power, no turbo lag that I can feel. Brakes are fine, easy to modulate and linear. Ride is a little on the firm side, but that's the way I like it. All-in-all, a nice car. And, it still has the 4 year included maintenance (vs the 3 year).

It had a sticker of $49K. Dealer said as a leftover, he could get it to $44K. I threw my magic $40K number out there, and he said he wouldn't be anywhere near that. At least he was honest. He did suggest I look at a 320i. Not enough "oomph" for me with that one. So, no dice.

Also drove a Lexus ES....ruled that out after the first 5 minutes of the test drive. It DOES NOT like to be tossed around. Rode great, but talk about no feedback of any type, that's the ES. Again, I would prefer the Avalon to the ES.

Drove the IS350 F Sport.....'16. Great car. Cramped. As the trade rags state, the "puck" controler is maddening trying to make a choice. Sales person said it's easy to get used to. Maybe....not a good first impression, though. It's quick, it handles great. Nothing seems to upset it. Steering is weighted almost perfectly. Brakes are strong. Lexus knows how to build cars that scream upscale. The IS (and actually the ES) are no different. Not going to get to my $40K number on the IS F Sport. It has an MSRP of $50K.

Have test driven.....

-Toyota Avalon '16 and '17...both are the same
-Honda Accord Touring both hybrid and V6 gas
-Ford Fusion Sport...'17
-Infiniti Q50 3.0T...both the S and regular version...'16
-Mercedes C Class.... '16
-Audi A3 and A4...'17
-Acura TLX SH AWD Advance...'17
-BMW 328i xDrive-'16
-Lexus ES and IS F Sport...'16

graphicguy · February 2017

Time to trim the heard.

Some quick observations....People bemoan the "good old days" of simple cars and large HP. I'll say that what you can get today as far as power plants (turbos, efficient V6s, transmissions that are smart, etc) is nothing short of amazing. Generally speaking, the quality of materials and build are quite high.

The only one I drove where I was disappointed was the Fusion Sport....especially given its nearly $40K price point. Lots of plastic against plastic squeaks going on there, too.

Even the 4 cyl cars are quick....nothing was really disappointing in acceleration. Some were better than others, obviously. The 3.0 twin turbo in the Infiniti is a blast, as a matter of fact. The V6 in the Accord and the Acura is sweet sounding and provide both cars with plenty of power.

I liked the Audis....both were too expensive given my price point (S3/A4) especially equipped the way I'd want.

I did look at the VW Golf R. I liked it. But, for a little less money, I liked the GTI as much...just a wee bit slower. VW doesn't have the rep I'm looking for regarding reliability.

I tried to get a test drive set up on a Jag, but it proved to be a hassle to get the car I'd be interested in. Then, there's the reliablity "issue".

You want a lux car bargain....I don't think you can do any better than the Avalon....seriously! Acceleration isn't going to pin you in the seat. But, it's plenty quick. Everything yit does is smooth. It's extremely well put together with high quality materials. I can't think of one option you could possibly ask for that it doesn't have (Limited). You aren't going to toss it into corners, but that's not what the car is about. It's all about getting from here to there with the least amount of hassle. Rides great, steers well, probably the most comfortable car I've ever driven.

For the largest value in a car, I can't see how anyone can argue the Accord Touring. It handles well, it accelerates well, it steers well, it brakes well, it's well put together, and resale should prove to be fantastic. It doesn't stand out in any one way. It just does everything well.

I forgot to include my Volvo S60 in my test drives. Fine car....I'm just not a fan of the Swedish tint it has. Doesn't make it bad, just not my cup of tea.

abacomike · February 2017

28firefighter said:
I need some advice.

Our home here in Seattle is 3 years old - we bought it as a new build. It came with a one year builders warranty that has since expired.

Last week the roof roof started leaking into Sam's nursery. They sent their roofer out (different than the people who installed it) to assess it and they found the source. In talking with the roofer, his opinion is that the original installer did not follow standards around the area of the leak, which is by the gutter drains, in favor of saving time.

The builder is refusing to pay pay for the repairs to the roof as well as for the interior damage, instead suggesting I make a homeowners claim - no way I'm doing that. I don't believe it'll be that expensive. I want to fight him but I need this leak fixed ASAP and do not have time to wait for them to come around.

My thought is to have the whole thing repaired and get a written assessment with photos of the work, and then depending on cost and opinion of root cause, take the builder to small claims if it is indeed a construction defect.

Any other thoughts suggestions for how to proceed?

The key to forcing the builder or the city/county to repair the leaking roof and reimburse you for the damages the leak caused on the interior of the house is to contact the city or county that issued the inspection certificate stating that the builder installed and sealed the roof correctly, according to code. Assuming the government agency/department (usually the building department) has a copy of that certificate, which they should, then it is possible the issuing department or agency of the government did not inspect said roof correctly or did not even inspect the roof, but issued the certificate anyway. If you can prove the roof was not installed per building code, then it now becomes the responsibility of the building inspector/department to determine why a certificate was issued if the roof was not installed per code.

I had a similar problem with my new home, but it was plumbing. Every time it would rain heavily and the sump pump was working overtime, I had a backup from the sewer line. This was after the house was off warranty (I think it was 6 years old at the time). I had to pay for a back hoe to dig up the sewer line leading from my house to the main sewer line in the street. The building department sent out an inspector and they found that when the builder backfilled the trench, a large bolder hit the sewer connection and the connection was broken. The city ended up paying for the entire repair because the inspector was supposed to be present when the builder back-filled the trench to ensure it was done per code. Well, there was no sewer inspection done on the house and no inspection certificate issued. Thus, the liability became the city's, not the builder's.

Good luck, FF.

graphicguy · February 2017

So, as much as I liked quite a few of these cars, some have to drop out of considertion.

I'll tell you which are still on my shopping list....

-'17 Honda Accord Touring...probably pick one up for $31K. I don't think you can find a better car at that price.
-'16 Mercedes C300 4Matic...$39,999 (as of right now). I understand whey fintail, driver, and abacomike like Mercedes. They just do everything well. Plus, they are gorgeous cars. Everyone I've ever talked to who has one, really have no complaints.

A car I didn't expect to like as much as I did.....

-'16 Infiniti Q50 3.0T....they fixed the steering, at least in the 3.0T. The Q50S still has the wonky steering. They redid the '16s and all my complaints are gone. This is a fast machine.

I've got an offer in on one of these. Will let you all know the outcome. Either I'm still shopping or I'm going to pick up a car today.

28firefighter · February 2017

That's an interesting idea. I have to see if the city inspected the roof - I don't believe they did - I believe they just issued a certificate of occupancy.

abacomike · February 2017

28firefighter said:
That's an interesting idea. I have to see if the city inspected the roof - I don't believe they did - I believe they just issued a certificate of occupancy.

An occupancy permit only ensures that the house was built to code which is evidenced by building inspection certificates. It the roof was never inspected to make sure it was constructed to code, then there is a problem on the city's part, I would have to assume. So it would pay to have the city pull up all the inspection certificates on your house and make sure each was signed off on by a building inspector. Keep us informed as to your progress on this and good luck.

When I had my new air-conditioning/heating system put in this past December, the contractor was required to pull a permit from the city for installation of the new system - both inside and on the roof where the compressors are. Last month (January), an inspector from the city came by and inspected the installation on the roof and inside my condo for the air-handling and heating unit. He then issued a certificate showing "...PASSED INSPECTION..." and his signature. Cities are very meticulous, usually, about making sure everything meets code.

sda · February 2017

graphicguy said:
Test drove the Fusion Sport yesterday. Not bad....pretty disappointing interior for a car that is knocking at the $40K door. It felt heavy, but no doubt it's quick.

Also test drove a '16 328i xDrive. Very nice car...familiar BMW "feel". Not sure what all the whining about in the trade rags about the steering. It felt responsive to me. Interiors of BMWs all have a similar layout and look. It's practical, ergonomic, nice all the way around. The one I drove didn't have sport seats. That's too bad, as BMW does sports seats well. Aside from that, plenty of power, no turbo lag that I can feel. Brakes are fine, easy to modulate and linear. Ride is a little on the firm side, but that's the way I like it. All-in-all, a nice car. And, it still has the 4 year included maintenance (vs the 3 year).

It had a sticker of $49K. Dealer said as a leftover, he could get it to $44K. I threw my magic $40K number out there, and he said he wouldn't be anywhere near that. At least he was honest. He did suggest I look at a 320i. Not enough "oomph" for me with that one. So, no dice.

Also drove a Lexus ES....ruled that out after the first 5 minutes of the test drive. It DOES NOT like to be tossed around. Rode great, but talk about no feedback of any type, that's the ES. Again, I would prefer the Avalon to the ES.

Drove the IS350 F Sport.....'16. Great car. Cramped. As the trade rags state, the "puck" controler is maddening trying to make a choice. Sales person said it's easy to get used to. Maybe....not a good first impression, though. It's quick, it handles great. Nothing seems to upset it. Steering is weighted almost perfectly. Brakes are strong. Lexus knows how to build cars that scream upscale. The IS (and actually the ES) are no different. Not going to get to my $40K number on the IS F Sport. It has an MSRP of $50K.

Have test driven.....

-Toyota Avalon '16 and '17...both are the same
-Honda Accord Touring both hybrid and V6 gas
-Ford Fusion Sport...'17
-Infiniti Q50 3.0T...both the S and regular version...'16
-Mercedes C Class.... '16
-Audi A3 and A4...'17
-Acura TLX SH AWD Advance...'17
-BMW 328i xDrive-'16
-Lexus ES and IS F Sport...'16

That's disappointing to learn about the Fusion Sport. I have yet to see one, only some test drives from Motor Week and the lot. Rattles and squeaks are a no go for me.

28firefighter · February 2017

So I just pulled my final inspection report. The city does not require a roof inspection here for an occupancy permit.

abacomike · February 2017

28firefighter said:
So I just pulled my final inspection report. The city does not require a roof inspection here for an occupancy permit.

If, however, the roof was installed out of code (not per code), what does the city say about liability? I am assuming that you can prove that the roof is not installed per code. I would consult an attorney - mainly because there may be other parts of the roof, house, etc., that were not installed per code - which would mean that you will have problems in the future with the roof. Just a suggestion.

There must be some permit with appropriate inspection documentation for "framing" of the house. I just find it hard to believe that there was no roof inspection to ensure the building was following code. Perhaps it's under "framing" or some other permit.

driver100 · February 2017

tjc78 said:
@driver100

Does the dealer really have the full payment for the car all this time???

OMG I would never allow a car dealer to hold that kind of money. I don't care what the insurance company said or did. I would have taken something from the lot or made them find it in a short amount of time

tjc, kind of a long story but the insurance company wanted me to buy my car for a lower price at another dealer, but I wanted to get it from my dealer. They issued a check to my dealer, I had no reason to hold it. They ordered the car for me and held it for 2 months....I didn't put any money down......they trusted me and I trust them. We only get the one check and better they keep it than we lose it.

jmonroe · February 2017

imidazol97 said:

stickguy said:
1 more year of saving on taxes with the extra dependent, and her tax credits. Though when that goes away (2018 tax year), the tuition payments are also long gone, as will be many of the carrying costs (car, insurance, phone, etc.). Hey, if she is claiming herself, I better not be supporting her!
Yeah. But you'll be doing her taxes too. Another set. That's what I've had to do even after Imid Jr. got a job.

You guys are making me look like a mean father.

Both of my Sons undergraduate papers say "accountant". So, when Son #1 got out of Penn State I told him he should be doing my taxes. He said they don't do too much with tax forms when you go to school so he wanted some advice from me as he tackled the forms. He got to one line and asked, "what do you do here"? I said, "CHEAT just like everyone does with that line. You're not going to get rich doing it but it feels good to know that you can get away with it". He walked away kinda confused.

Was I really as bad of a father as you guys have made me think I was?

jmonroe

driver100 · February 2017

stickguy said:
I don't think anyone actually knows what is going on with Drivers car. Sounds quite weird, and I don't think he has gotten a clear explanation from the salesguy. Though the key difference here is, he doesn't need the car so did not have to push the issue.

this is in the category of "stuff happens", Plenty of posters would be up in arms if they were going to stonewall him, but we don't know if that is the case. Maybe they would have told him to go scratch, or maybe bent over backwards to get him into a car (though in this case, he does not actually own that car and in theory could walk in today and ask for his check back).

I agree though that it is a very weird situation, and if as reported, a serious goof on MB part shipping cars to Canada before they were signed off on. Key as always though is not making a goof, but how they react to it to resolve it. My WAG is that any other cars sitting impounded at port are not assigned to specific buyers.

best analogy I can think of is when Abacomike got his car that by mistake was missing some standard features. Instead of fighting him, they bent over backwards to fast track a replacement for him. With IIRC some compensation for his trouble?

This would have gone down differently (but we don't know how) if Driver had gone home in January and needed a car ASAP and they could not deliver.

I was going to reply to imid but you have done it much better. Like I said yesterday, these things can happen to any car, any make. I have asked my sales rep just what has happened. The car did land in Canada in mid Dec but the government was slow to test it (surprise). It could be a very minor issue, or a major issue, it could be a question about some of the new leading technology incorporated into this new model.

I think we shoud find out what part it is, and see how the matter is handles before making comaparisons or assumptions. At least it seems to be being repaired before it reaches the customers.

And for those asking why don't they give me another car instead....they will all have the same problem, unless I take a 4 cyl model.

abacomike · February 2017

driver100 said:

stickguy said:
I don't think anyone actually knows what is going on with Drivers car. Sounds quite weird, and I don't think he has gotten a clear explanation from the salesguy. Though the key difference here is, he doesn't need the car so did not have to push the issue.

this is in the category of "stuff happens", Plenty of posters would be up in arms if they were going to stonewall him, but we don't know if that is the case. Maybe they would have told him to go scratch, or maybe bent over backwards to get him into a car (though in this case, he does not actually own that car and in theory could walk in today and ask for his check back).

I agree though that it is a very weird situation, and if as reported, a serious goof on MB part shipping cars to Canada before they were signed off on. Key as always though is not making a goof, but how they react to it to resolve it. My WAG is that any other cars sitting impounded at port are not assigned to specific buyers.

best analogy I can think of is when Abacomike got his car that by mistake was missing some standard features. Instead of fighting him, they bent over backwards to fast track a replacement for him. With IIRC some compensation for his trouble?

This would have gone down differently (but we don't know how) if Driver had gone home in January and needed a car ASAP and they could not deliver.
I was going to reply to imid but you have done it much better. Like I said yesterday, these things can happen to any car, any make. I have asked my sales rep just what has happened. The car did land in Canada in mid Dec but the government was slow to test it (surprise). It could be a very minor issue, or a major issue, it could be a question about some of the new leading technology incorporated into this new model.

I think we shoud find out what part it is, and see how the matter is handles before making comaparisons or assumptions. At least it seems to be being repaired before it reaches the customers.

And for those asking why don't they give me another car instead....they will all have the same problem, unless I take a 4 cyl model.

Driver, according to the posting that described the problems in Canada with Mercedes being caused by stricter inspections and controls over new models as a result of the VW fiasco, it would seem that your car is just one of many that is being held up by the Canadian version of the EPA.

driver100 · February 2017

ab348 said:
It may be more than just a "missing part" with @driver100 's car. Look here:

http://canada.autonews.com/article/20161020/CANADA/161019815/mercedes-benz-canada-blames-2017-product-delay-on-vw-scandal

Maybe "Blame VW" is the new "Blame Canada".

A great article ab....that explains it perfectly. Probably my sales rep doesn't know the real story, they are often kept in the dark on these issues.

Mercedes-Benz Canada says a delay of some of its 2017 models — in some cases up to two months — is due to the Volkswagen Group's year-long diesel-emissions scandal.

It seems since the VW scandal the government is checking gas and diesel engines a lot closer......not a thing can be done about it. Much different than GGs problem.....totally a government issue at this point...unless the car doesn't pass.

thebean · February 2017

jmonroe said:...Was I really as bad of a father as you guys have made me think I was? jmonroe

I think we all know the answer to this one.

driver100 · February 2017

abacomike said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:
I don't think anyone actually knows what is going on with Drivers car. Sounds quite weird, and I don't think he has gotten a clear explanation from the salesguy. Though the key difference here is, he doesn't need the car so did not have to push the issue.

this is in the category of "stuff happens", Plenty of posters would be up in arms if they were going to stonewall him, but we don't know if that is the case. Maybe they would have told him to go scratch, or maybe bent over backwards to get him into a car (though in this case, he does not actually own that car and in theory could walk in today and ask for his check back).

I agree though that it is a very weird situation, and if as reported, a serious goof on MB part shipping cars to Canada before they were signed off on. Key as always though is not making a goof, but how they react to it to resolve it. My WAG is that any other cars sitting impounded at port are not assigned to specific buyers.

best analogy I can think of is when Abacomike got his car that by mistake was missing some standard features. Instead of fighting him, they bent over backwards to fast track a replacement for him. With IIRC some compensation for his trouble?

This would have gone down differently (but we don't know how) if Driver had gone home in January and needed a car ASAP and they could not deliver.
I was going to reply to imid but you have done it much better. Like I said yesterday, these things can happen to any car, any make. I have asked my sales rep just what has happened. The car did land in Canada in mid Dec but the government was slow to test it (surprise). It could be a very minor issue, or a major issue, it could be a question about some of the new leading technology incorporated into this new model.

I think we shoud find out what part it is, and see how the matter is handles before making comaparisons or assumptions. At least it seems to be being repaired before it reaches the customers.

And for those asking why don't they give me another car instead....they will all have the same problem, unless I take a 4 cyl model.
Driver, according to the posting that described the problems in Canada with Mercedes being caused by stricter inspections and controls over new models as a result of the VW fiasco, it would seem that your car is just one of many that is being held up by the Canadian version of the EPA.

I agree....I should be suing Volkswagen, it is all their fault :@

imidazol97 · February 2017

jmonroe said:

You guys are making me look like a mean father.
Was I really as bad of a father as you guys have made me think I was?Jmonroe

My CPA taught me about 50 shades of gray.

@Jmonroe says, "CHEAT just like everyone does with that line. "

coldinohio · February 2017

FF: would suggest you talk to your insurance agent (not the person who answers phones) and have a 'what if' conversation; we did that with damage in Ohio from Snow, etc and State Farm covered all without a hitch or change in deductible... often the insurance companies have a lot of clot and can circle back to builder etc. they also can 'suggest' subcontractors..

glad you like the bmw x1-- may be a good wagon choice for wifey

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imidazol97 · February 2017

driver100 said:
I agree....I should be suing Volkswagen, it is all their fault :@

If your car is needing a replacement part, then that means it wasn't passing inspection. That's not VW's fault--nor is it yours. I'd talk to the store while the car is still tied up. You might get a resolution for the car like you want with a minor payment.

Mr_Shiftright · February 2017

fintail said:
You get the German options ethos - everything is optional. I've read old jokes that in the past people would say even the fluids in newly delivered cars were extra-cost options.

You get a badge, styling that usually ages very well, and usually also receive driving dynamics and tactile feel that can be hard to beat.

jmonroe said:

If @driver100 did not get what you described I am pretty surprised, maybe even shocked, that an 80 grand car of whatever make does not have that. Even my dinky '15 Genesis has it.

Just what is it that you get with German cars, other than a badge?

jmonroe

berri · February 2017

JM - maybe your tax and wealth is so complicated you need a tax specialist. There are Masters programs in Taxation that some accountants go to.

jmonroe · February 2017

abacomike said:

28firefighter said:
So I just pulled my final inspection report. The city does not require a roof inspection here for an occupancy permit.
If, however, the roof was installed out of code (not per code), what does the city say about liability? I am assuming that you can prove that the roof is not installed per code. I would consult an attorney - mainly because there may be other parts of the roof, house, etc., that were not installed per code - which would mean that you will have problems in the future with the roof. Just a suggestion.

There must be some permit with appropriate inspection documentation for "framing" of the house. I just find it hard to believe that there was no roof inspection to ensure the building was following code. Perhaps it's under "framing" or some other permit.

Mike, some areas of the country are better than others when it comes to following the code and having inspections performed. Around the Burgh, it is almost laughable as to how they "pencil whip" the paper when a house is being built. To me this explains why the construction around here can't come close to the house construction when we built our house in 1992 when we moved to SC.

A little story that @driver100 won't read through but here goes:

The plumber dug the trench to lay the sewage line and it did not look right to me so I had the builder come over to look at it before the plumber installed the drain line from the house to the main sewage line tap. I showed where the slope was not sufficient by at least 2 inched from meeting the minimum slope and I ask if he wanted me to prove it to him. He said, "don't bother I believe you. I'll tell the plumber about it. The kids he had do this will have to dig it a little deeper. Don't worry, it will be done right". The builder calls me the next day and said, "the plumber came out and said it is OK the way it is". I told him it wasn't and I wanted to be there when the inspector came out after the pipe was laid and before it was back filled".

When it was time for the inspection I was there. The inspector wanted to know who I was and the builder told him I was the owner and that I had a problem with the installation. He wanted to know what was wrong and I told him the slope was about 2 inches too high from meeting the minimum code requirements at the tap in point. He wanted to know how I knew that and I said, "simple, I ran a string from the house to where the pipe is connected now at the tap in point but I did it before the pipe was laid and told the builder about it. So that is why I'm here". He said, "that's the way I'm going to inspect now. Let's see how good your string was". He measured the drop and says to the plumber, "it's too higher buy about 2 1/2 inches. Why didn't you believe the owner? Dig it up and do it right and I suggest that you take advantage of being able to drop it buy at least another foot. I don't know why you did it like this with all the room you had to work with AND DON'T BACK FILL IT UNTIL I GET BACK HERE TO SEE IT, GOT THAT"?

I was there for the back filling and of course I was satisfied when it was done right. BTW, the pipe was lowered by about another foot at the tap in point.

Like I said there are inspections enforced by some locales and then there is "pencil whipping" like where I am now.

jmonroe

imidazol97 · February 2017

stickguy said:
I was going to reply to imid but you have done it much better.

Done.

Would be nice if @driver10 could just use the cash balance to buy the US model here and own it.
I wonder if the US equivalent actually doesn't pass US tests if Canada is having trouble verifying the MB Canada models are not passing.

jmonroe · February 2017

berri said:
JM - maybe your tax and wealth is so complicated you need a tax specialist. There are Masters programs in Taxation that some accountants go to.

There is nothing complicated about my taxes. I just don't have enough taxes withheld. Really nothing other than my RMD checks that must be withheld or I get penalized . So I don't mess with that. The Feds don't require me to have taxes withheld from my SS so I don't I have that done. I'd rather use the Feds money as long as I can and as best as I know that ain't cheating. I'm a law abiding guy and only do what is legal. I don't make the laws, I just live with them.

As for my wealth, that is also not complicated. I just don't have enough of it.

jmonroe

driver100 · February 2017

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:
I agree....I should be suing Volkswagen, it is all their fault :@
If your car is needing a replacement part, then that means it wasn't passing inspection. That's not VW's fault--nor is it yours. I'd talk to the store while the car is still tied up. You might get a resolution for the car like you want with a minor payment.

The rep told my wife it was waiting for a part. This story ab posted has a ring of truth to it, since a lot of cars have sat for 2 months. My rep is probably off today, but lets wait until we get more details before coming to conclusions.......and, in my case not only doesn't it matter since I don't need the car until April (not paying insurance on it btw) but we learned a valuable lesson - we prefer to fly to Florida and just use one car whoile we are here.

oldfarmer50 · February 2017

28firefighter said:
I need some advice.

Our home here in Seattle is 3 years old - we bought it as a new build. It came with a one year builders warranty that has since expired.

Last week the roof roof started leaking into Sam's nursery. They sent their roofer out (different than the people who installed it) to assess it and they found the source. In talking with the roofer, his opinion is that the original installer did not follow standards around the area of the leak, which is by the gutter drains, in favor of saving time.

The builder is refusing to pay pay for the repairs to the roof as well as for the interior damage, instead suggesting I make a homeowners claim - no way I'm doing that. I don't believe it'll be that expensive. I want to fight him but I need this leak fixed ASAP and do not have time to wait for them to come around.

My thought is to have the whole thing repaired and get a written assessment with photos of the work, and then depending on cost and opinion of root cause, take the builder to small claims if it is indeed a construction defect.

Any other thoughts suggestions for how to proceed?

I think your idea is the best. Make sure to take photos of everything. Have the work done by a professional who is willing to go to court to back your claim. Written testimony is just about worthless.

How big is your builder? Small firms frequently just fold up their LLC once the claims start building up. Winning in SC is only half the battle. Collecting is the problem.

tjc78 · February 2017

driver100 said:

@driver100

Does the dealer really have the full payment for the car all this time???

OMG I would never allow a car dealer to hold that kind of money. I don't care what the insurance company said or did. I would have taken something from the lot or made them find it in a short amount of time
tjc, kind of a long story but the insurance company wanted me to buy my car for a lower price at another dealer, but I wanted to get it from my dealer. They issued a check to my dealer, I had no reason to hold it. They ordered the car for me and held it for 2 months....I didn't put any money down......they trusted me and I trust them. We only get the one check and better they keep it than we lose it.

I remember the whole story with the option package troubles, etc. I just didn't realize your new car was paid in full before receiving it. Just saying you are far more trusting than me.

fintail · February 2017

Ah that wonderful PNW build quality. I don't have any advice, but from watching local houses being built, I am not shocked.

The building I live in was built in 03. A few years ago, it was discovered that the outer shell/surface of the building was not built properly, and was leaking. The builder was taken to court, and had to replace it all, at a cost of 7 figures. It took months. I noticed another similar building several blocks away appeared to have a similar issue - it was wrapped in plastic for a couple months. Buyer beware around here.

28firefighter said:
I need some advice.

Our home here in Seattle is 3 years old - we bought it as a new build. It came with a one year builders warranty that has since expired.

Last week the roof roof started leaking into Sam's nursery.Any other thoughts suggestions for how to proceed?

ab348 · February 2017

I wonder about the "waiting for a part" story. It sounds more like the federal bureaucracy is dragging its feet to certify all 2017 E400s arriving at Autoport. I don't even know how they do that here - I was unaware that they had that kind of equipment locally. Maybe they take one and send it to wherever that exists.

fintail · February 2017

I'm curious too. It's not a new engine, and there are plenty of 4cyl models of the same platform already on the road.

ab348 said:
I wonder about the "waiting for a part" story. It sounds more like the federal bureaucracy is dragging its feet to certify all 2017 E400s arriving at Autoport. I don't even know how they do that here - I was unaware that they had that kind of equipment locally. Maybe they take one and send it to wherever that exists.

driver100 · February 2017

imidazol97 said:

stickguy said:
I was going to reply to imid but you have done it much better.
Done.

Would be nice if @driver10 could just use the cash balance to buy the US model here and own it.
I wonder if the US equivalent actually doesn't pass US tests if Canada is having trouble verifying the MB Canada models are not passing.

A few problems buying it here. The car is probably 20% more in Canada, but our dollar is only worth 75 cents, so I would lose big time.
And, it would have a Florida license on it. You can't use a car in your own province (or probably state) for more than 6 months if it has another jurisdiction license plate.
Insurance the same, only good for up to 6 months out of the province (or probably state), some policies are for less time.

driver100 · February 2017

fintail said:
I'm curious too. It's not a new engine, and there are plenty of 4cyl models of the same platform already on the road.

ab348 said:
I wonder about the "waiting for a part" story. It sounds more like the federal bureaucracy is dragging its feet to certify all 2017 E400s arriving at Autoport. I don't even know how they do that here - I was unaware that they had that kind of equipment locally. Maybe they take one and send it to wherever that exists.

I think the problem is the cars weren't being tested that well before.....since you guys in the U.S. passed the VW diesels I think our guys just rubber stamped it as OK. Why pay to test when you guys have done it?

Now our government testers are putting on a show to teach a lesson to the import car companies.

driver100 · February 2017

Saw this review:

WARNING: JMonroe, don't read this part....it is of no interest to you:

Compared to the 2016 E-Class sedan, the 2017 E 300 and E 400 4Matic sedans feel smaller, lighter and more agile to drive even though they are actually larger. There’s a definite improvement in driver control and enjoyment when compared to the previous E-Class sedan.

Ironically then, the new E-Class sedan is now available with semi-autonomous driving capabilities. The optional Intelligent Drive package now includes Drive Pilot, a feature that can take over the steering, braking and accelerating in many common driving situations

berri · February 2017

As for my wealth, that is also not complicated. I just don't have enough of it.

Just sticking up for your son, the Penn State accountant who didn't want to mess with them!

fintail · February 2017

Or putting on a show to justify their positions and compensation? I'd wager a lot that nothing bad will be found, and that the work could have been done sooner, resulting in your car being in your garage by now. But when you can't get in any kind of trouble, you can teach lessons.

driver100 said:

I think the problem is the cars weren't being tested that well before.....since you guys in the U.S. passed the VW diesels I think our guys just rubber stamped it as OK. Why pay to test when you guys have done it?

Now our government testers are putting on a show to teach a lesson to the import car companies.

fintail · February 2017

It definitely can't be heavier than my Bluetec 4Matic, which tips the scales at over 4000 lbs. Luckily it has torque.

I think that semi-autonomous system is the same as used in the S-class since MY 2014. There are some funny hacks for it on youtube.

driver100 said:

Ironically then, the new E-Class sedan is now available with semi-autonomous driving capabilities. The optional Intelligent Drive package now includes Drive Pilot, a feature that can take over the steering, braking and accelerating in many common driving situations

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