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BMW's current lease program is scheduled to run through January 3rd, so I don't anticipate there being much of a difference between leasing it now and at the end of December, other than the fact that dealers may be slightly more willing to negotiate at the end of the month and the end of the year.
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Thanks for all the advice you've given.
Do you have the lease numbers for the 2005 Altima 3.5 SE? The specific numbers that were quoted to me were $360/month for a 36mo/15k lease on an SE priced at 24500 with around a 14500 residual value. No money down, just first months payment.
I appreciate any help.
Jonathon
MSRP is $41,695...assume 36 month lease.
(quote)Hello,
Wonderful forum! I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with dealers in SF bay area. I am looking to lease a 2005 325xiT in November. After a bit of research online and on Edmunds the invoice for the follwing car (including destination chrage) comes to $38,170. Can anyone advise me on what I should expect to pay monthly with minimum down payment and 15K/yr lease?
Metallic paint
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Sports Package
Navigation System
Xenon lights
HK Soundsystem
Full size spare
Thanks much for your help.
KK (end quote)
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Can you give me the money factor and residuals for a A4 1.8t, A4 1.8t w/quattro both for 36 and 39 months.
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John
I have a feeling that I am going to end up with the Altima since the lease deals are so good.
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I have a friend who is interested in the new LR3 HSE. We are looking for the numbers for a 15K/yrm, 36mo lease (southern california). Thanks!!
Could you please reply with the money factors and residuals for a Mercedes Benz E320 - MSRP around 51K in San Jose, CA for the following:
10K/yr - 36 Mths
10K/yr - 39 Mths
10K/yr - 48 Mths
12K/yr - 36 Mths
12K/yr - 39 Mths
12K/yr - 48 Mths
Also, have you seen the acquisition fees being negotiated for Mercedes leases? How much should I be expecting to pay for acquisition fees?
Thanks for the great service.
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2004 Saab 9-5 Arc Auto
M.S.R.P.$36,645.00
Lease price $27,477.00
36 months
10,000 miles a year
Monthly Payment $414.74
$414.74 first payment
$60.50 VA registration
$824.31 VA tax
$1,299.55 = total due at signing
Buy out price at the end of the lease guaranty at $15,024.45
Charge over mileage is 0.20 cents per mile
42 month lease
15000 mile/58% residual
$1999 cap cost reduction
due at signing- 1 month payment, security deposit, cap cost reduction, acquisition fee
Am I an idiot?
Here is info I received from one Audi dealer:
The S4 with options I desire has an MSRP of 51,555 and adjusted selling price in accordance with the Audi special of 50,481.02 (she said she used the MSRP of the Audi provided in the lease program example and the program selling price, then applied the same discount/percentage to the vehicle I want, which has a few more options).
The money factor is .00055 if a security deposit of $575 is collected. If security deposit is waived the money factor is .00070. This waiver applies only to current Audi or VW Financial customers I am told, so I guess that would not apply for me.
For a 15k/miles year 42 month lease the monthly payment would be:
561.52 plus tax.
Total "drive offs" including security deposit of: 4,738.20. which as I understand it includes the "acquisition fee" of 575.00 plus one lease payment. There is a $350 "turn-in" charge at the end of the lease. On the Audi site one of the conditions cited for the example quoted price is: "Required dealer contribution could affect final negotiated transaction." What does that mean?
How does that sound to you?
Do I need any other info or clarifications (like the residual %/amount)?
Should I be able to negotiate a better deal?
Thanks,
Lee
Regardless of the length of the lease that Honda is advertising on the 2005 Pilot, you are free to lease it for however long you want. Of course, doing so will have an impact upon its monthly payment. If you were to lease a 2005 Honda Pilot EX RES through AHFC right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00149 and 62%, respectively. Using these numbers, an MSRP of $33,620 and a selling price of $31,242 ($1,000 over invoice), I estimate that this truck would have a zero down, pre-tax monthly payment of around $367. If you were to lease it for only $500 over invoice, the payment would drop to around $352.
I advise against using any money from your trade as a capitalized cost reduction on this lease. I always advise consumers against making any sort of down payment when leasing. I do so for two main reasons. The first is if your vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen during your lease, your insurance company pays off the bank that you were leasing it through and your down payment essentially disappears. The second main reason is that down payments on leased vehicles do nothing to reduce their lease-end purchase prices. So your lease-end purchase option price for this Pilot would be exactly the same, regardless of whether you had put $2,000 down, or had made absolutely no down payment at all.
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The MSRP is an important number to know because without it, one really can't calculate a sample lease payment.
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Well, I know that there IS a $4000 dealer cash incentive available right now on remaining '04s .. and there's still some left at my dealer. But, regarding a lease deal, what is the money factor and residual on this car for a 36, 39 or a 42 month lease ... last year on my '03 it was a very attractive .00047 MF and a 51% residual on a 39 month lease .. any chance it's similar to that this year ? And, can the $4000 dealer cash even be used on a lease, or a purchase only ??
He's currently torn between the new RL (which is WAY too expensive to lease right now) and the M45 ...
THANKS AGAIN Car_man, your help is ALWAYS appreciated !!!
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OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I know why I couldn't negotiate the fee down on my Accord lease I signed Tuesday in NY.
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Price: $22,969 (dealer says invoice + $300)
Documentation & Fees: $1,065 (this is NY where the minimum Acquisition fee almost everywhere is $800 – I probably got taken here for about $200)
Total Price (including all fees except tax): $24,034
Residual: 54%
MF: .0022 (5.28%)
Term: 42 Months
Leasing Company: American Honda
Monthly payment: $331.53 + $28.18 sales tax (8.5%) = $359.71
No Security Deposit
Traded in a ’94 BMW 325i for $4000. Getting a check from the dealer for $3,640.29 (had to pay the 1st months payment up front.
I really didn’t shop around much. I just went to 1 other dealer and got a decent price from him after negotiating a bit. My problem with them was their unwillingness to disclose how they came to the numbers and only focused on a monthly payment.
So, I cold called the salesperson at Huntington Honda (Long Island, NY) I bought my 2003 CR-V from in August 2003. He treated me well last time (I bought it the Friday of the blackout in the NE when a lot of people didn’t have power). I told him what I wanted and had to trade in, and that I wanted all of the numbers ready when I walked in. He showed me the numbers to do the calculations with, and had me work with his manager to get to the above figures. These prices are about $800 lower than the first dealer.
Picked the car up last night. Graphite Pearl, grey leather interior. I’m happy with the deal. I haven't seen the car in the daylight yet, and probably won't until the weekend. :-((
Thanks to:
Car Man (Lease Questions) for the MF and residuals.
Terry aka rroyce10 (Real World Trade-In Values) for a great assessment of my trade-in, which allowed me to manage my expectations of what it was worth and what I would get for it.
All the forum hosts for trying to keep everyone on topic. :-)
. . . and to everyone else for posting their experiences.
The new RL is definitely a sweet car and it has AWD which is an advantage over the M, but you're right it is way too expensive to lease right now. Give it some time and it definitely will have lease support available on it.
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last night did not agree with your money factor
on the Altima S. I also take it that the cash
back they are offering cannot be used with the low money factor you quoted --.00096.
Based on their numbers on my camry with 2 payments left though, I may be OOL though.
sandy
I'd like to receive some lease info on the 2005 Infiniti G35x. I'm also looking at the A4, but the wife really loves the G35, so that may be where we end up
Anyway, here is the offer-
'05 G35x
Nav, XM, premium, wood-
MSRP of $39.130.
Sales price of $37,500
Looking for 36 months, 15k miles. Are we able to up the mileage to 18k? I will be at or slightly above the 15k mileage limit, but for business purposes I need to lease. How does that affect the residual, MF, etc?
If I were to lease for 39 or 42, what does that do to the res. and MF?
Thanks!
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Let's work up a couple of sample lease payments on the car that you are interested in for you. Using the above numbers, an MSRP of $39,130 and a selling price of $37,500, I estimate that this car has zero down, pre-tax payments of $551 for 36 months, $528 for 39 months, and $516 for 42 months.
15,000 miles per year is the highest number of miles that IFS publishes residual values for, but you may be able to purchase additional miles on top of the 15,000 at lease signing for less than you would have had to pay for them had you waited to pay an excess mileage penalty at lease-end.
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Thanks for your help. Here are the details:
$34,644 is the selling price (I believe this is cost to the dealer also, they made a mistake with the deal).
12000 Mile Lease
42 Months
$367.00 per month
$3098.00 down (includes Suffolk County NY tax 8.5%, security deposit, $795 aquisition fee, first month's payment, license, etc)
The car includes:
Murano SE 2004 AWD
SE Touring Package (includes Premium package)
Dynamic Control Package
Mobile Entertainment System
Sunroof
Cargo Area Protector
Floor Mats
Splash Guards
Sunroof Wind Deflector
Thanks for your help!!!
$300 cap cost reduction
no deposit or acquisition fee
36 months
10,000 miles per year
MSRP $64,600
Resid 56.6%
Carman, is this a good deal? It is less than 2005 A6 or RL, and much nicer car
I have the additional information regarding the 2005 Pilot EX w/o navigation I am looking at:
MSRP $30435
Selling Price $29400
Any further advice would be greatly appreciated
Thanks!