2017 Audi Allroad Lease Questions

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    tad2480 said:

    How does residual look with 39 month lease and 7500 miles a year on Premium + model?

    60% and .00253

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  • swkimswkim Member Posts: 9
    What are the current RV and MF for Allroad Premium Plus 36M/10K? If state matters, it's in Washington state. Does Audi Care impact the numbers? And do the numbers change a lot month to month? Car isn't in stock until June.

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    swkim said:

    What are the current RV and MF for Allroad Premium Plus 36M/10K? If state matters, it's in Washington state. Does Audi Care impact the numbers? And do the numbers change a lot month to month? Car isn't in stock until June.

    Thanks!

    .00227 MF and 61% residual.

    AudiCare adds 1%

    These numbers are good through May 31st. Don't expect them to change much. The allroad is very popular, and it doesn't look like they will need incentives to move them.

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  • jorgensenscjorgensensc Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2017
    Hi! Can I please get the RV and MF for a 2017 Allroad premium plus 36/15and 4/48 for Houston Tx. Different Tier levels also if possible. Trying to figure out why I was given a RV of 58% and a MF of .00327, with no credit check. That MF seems really high! Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994

    Hi! Can I please get the RV and MF for a 2017 Allroad premium plus 36/15and 4/48 for Houston Tx. Different Tier levels also if possible. Trying to figure out why I was given a RV of 58% and a MF of .00327, with no credit check. That MF seems really high! Thank you!

    36/15 - .00227 and 58%
    48/15 - .00247 and 51%

    These numbers are good for tiers 1 and 2; add .00030, .00050, .00065, .00105, .00105 and .00300 for tiers 3-8

    Dealer can mark up the MF, and often quote a higher rate before credit is checked, just to be safe.

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  • jorgensenscjorgensensc Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2017
    Thank you. Can you give me the numbers for 48/12 please? I'm trying to keep the lease under warranty. What are the typical fees associated with the lease? The numbers they gave me seem way off! The MSRP is higher than what I asked for a quote for, they added some other kind of phantom fp fee (appears to be some type of theft deterrent), then 1088 non tax fee? The vehicle i priced out to order is 52600. i was going to offer 50000, including incentives and discounts.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994

    Thank you. Can you give me the numbers for 48/12 please? I'm trying to keep the lease under warranty. What are the typical fees associated with the lease? The numbers they gave me seem way off! The MSRP is higher than what I asked for a quote for, they added some other kind of phantom fp fee (appears to be some type of theft deterrent), then 1088 non tax fee? The vehicle i priced out to order is 52600. i was going to offer 50000, including incentives and discounts.

    48/12 - .00247 and 53%

    $895 acquisition fee, mandated by AFS

    Depending on the state, there is a dealer fee.

    DMV costs, which also vary by state.

    TX taxes the entire selling price, even for a lease, so lease payments are going to be expensive.

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  • jorgensenscjorgensensc Member Posts: 3
    Thank you!
  • tad2480tad2480 Member Posts: 50
    Hello - what is current residual and money factor for audi allroad on 7500 miles a year
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    tad2480 said:

    Hello - what is current residual and money factor for audi allroad on 7500 miles a year

    .00227 and 62%

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  • tad2480tad2480 Member Posts: 50
    thanks.
  • greenmachine8greenmachine8 Member Posts: 56
    Can someone provide the MF and RV for the Premium model 36/12 with Audi Care. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994

    Can someone provide the MF and RV for the Premium model 36/12 with Audi Care. Thanks

    60% and .00227; add 1% for AudiCare

    No incentives on the allroad

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  • quattro29quattro29 Member Posts: 9
    Hello. Would you please provide MF and RV for a prestige for 36/12?

    Thanks for your help.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    quattro29 said:

    Hello. Would you please provide MF and RV for a prestige for 36/12?

    Thanks for your help.

    .00225 MF and 57% residual

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  • alexrc99alexrc99 Member Posts: 12
    Any details on the MSD program on this vehicle? The MF ruins an otherwise attractive deal given the residual. Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    alexrc99 said:

    Any details on the MSD program on this vehicle? The MF ruins an otherwise attractive deal given the residual. Thank you!

    Don't have the details on the Audi MSD program.

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  • inquire9inquire9 Member Posts: 6
    Hi, can you provide the MF and Res% on a 2017 Audi A4 allroad 2.0T Premium Plus for North Carolina?
    15,000 miles/yr - 3 yrs
    12,000 miles/yr - 3 yrs

    Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    inquire9 said:

    Hi, can you provide the MF and Res% on a 2017 Audi A4 allroad 2.0T Premium Plus for North Carolina?
    15,000 miles/yr - 3 yrs
    12,000 miles/yr - 3 yrs

    Thanks in advance!

    57% / 59% and .00226

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  • brunofbrunof Member Posts: 40
    Hello. Has August seen any updates to the MF and Residuals on the Allroad?
    Premium Plus. 15k per year.

    Thank You for your time and attention.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    brunof said:

    Hello. Has August seen any updates to the MF and Residuals on the Allroad?
    Premium Plus. 15k per year.

    Thank You for your time and attention.

    Assuming a 36 month lease term, 57% and .00225

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  • brunofbrunof Member Posts: 40
    Michaell said:

    brunof said:

    Hello. Has August seen any updates to the MF and Residuals on the Allroad?
    Premium Plus. 15k per year.

    Thank You for your time and attention.

    Assuming a 36 month lease term, 57% and .00225
    Thank You. Still an expensive lease. Jeez.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    brunof said:

    Michaell said:

    brunof said:

    Hello. Has August seen any updates to the MF and Residuals on the Allroad?
    Premium Plus. 15k per year.

    Thank You for your time and attention.

    Assuming a 36 month lease term, 57% and .00225
    Thank You. Still an expensive lease. Jeez.
    And I doubt it will ever get much better....

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  • dawkins20dawkins20 Member Posts: 50
    Hi di you have 36/12 for Prem+ and prestige in PA.  Also I see most of the other 2017 Audi's are getting marketing support incentives (1000 for A4 sedan, 2000 for A6 sedan).  Any for the Allroad?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    dawkins20 said:

    Hi di you have 36/12 for Prem+ and prestige in PA.  Also I see most of the other 2017 Audi's are getting marketing support incentives (1000 for A4 sedan, 2000 for A6 sedan).  Any for the Allroad?

    .00225 MF and 59%/56% residual for Prem+/Prest

    No incentives

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  • brunofbrunof Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2017
    I talked my friends out of the Allroad and into a new 2018 Q5. Negotiated 11% off MSRP on a Premium Plus. With Audi Care, 15k per year and 36 mos, they pout down $2000 incl first months payment and got $599 per month with SoCal sales Tax. Once again, couldn't have done it without you.
    Michaell said:

    brunof said:

    Michaell said:

    brunof said:

    Hello. Has August seen any updates to the MF and Residuals on the Allroad?
    Premium Plus. 15k per year.

    Thank You for your time and attention.

    Assuming a 36 month lease term, 57% and .00225
    Thank You. Still an expensive lease. Jeez.
    And I doubt it will ever get much better....
  • offoff Member Posts: 15
    Hello,

    Looking for residual and MF for 36/10, PP and Prestige.  In Texas.

    thanks! 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    off said:

    Hello,

    Looking for residual and MF for 36/10, PP and Prestige.  In Texas.

    thanks! 

    60% (P+) or 57% (Prestige) and .00225

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  • offoff Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:

    off said:

    Hello,

    Looking for residual and MF for 36/10, PP and Prestige.  In Texas.

    thanks! 

    60% (P+) or 57% (Prestige) and .00225
    Hello! Any new numbers? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    off said:

    Michaell said:

    off said:

    Hello,

    Looking for residual and MF for 36/10, PP and Prestige.  In Texas.

    thanks! 

    60% (P+) or 57% (Prestige) and .00225
    Hello! Any new numbers? Thanks!
    Same residual, .00222 MF

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  • tad2480tad2480 Member Posts: 50
    Hi there, any new lease numbers for the 2018 allroad with 10,000 miles a year in TX over 36 months?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    tad2480 said:

    Hi there, any new lease numbers for the 2018 allroad with 10,000 miles a year in TX over 36 months?

    Please post in our new 2018 discussion, here:
    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/47070/audi/allroad/2018-audi-allroad-lease-questions/p1?new=1

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  • mahjedemahjede Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2017
    So I was looking for an A4 Allroad in South Florida and they had no 2018 on the lot, but did have a 2017 that they'd been using as a loaner. The 2017 Allroad PP had a $54K Sticker MSRP last year as new; they are now valuing it at $48k after the 1750 miles put on it as a loaner. They are offering the lease at $723/month (incl tax) with $2400 down. Thoughts?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994
    mahjede said:

    So I was looking for an A4 Allroad in South Florida and they had no 2018 on the lot, but did have a 2017 that they'd been using as a loaner. The 2017 Allroad PP had a $54K Sticker MSRP last year as new; they are now valuing it at $48k after the 1750 miles put on it as a loaner. They are offering the lease at $723/month (incl tax) with $2400 down. Thoughts?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

    What does the $2400 cover?

    Sounds like a lot for a loaner vehicle, but the allroad doesn't lease real well to begin with.

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  • mahjedemahjede Member Posts: 5
    36mo/10,000 miles. The 2400 covers "basic inceptions" which, correct me if i'm wrong, I think is down payment, acq fee, first month & taxes.

    I know an allroad does not lease at the most competitive levels, but this surprised me. Seems a bit high for a vehicle with a comparatively high residual. Let alone the fact that it'd been used.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    mahjede said:

    36mo/10,000 miles. The 2400 covers "basic inceptions" which, correct me if i'm wrong, I think is down payment, acq fee, first month & taxes.

    I know an allroad does not lease at the most competitive levels, but this surprised me. Seems a bit high for a vehicle with a comparatively high residual. Let alone the fact that it'd been used.

    .00160 MF and 59% residual
    If $48000 was the adjusted CAP cost, then $576/mo.+tax. That doesn't account for the existing mileage, which will reduce the residual. But, even with that, should only be $630/mo. with tax, at most.

    A note about "basic inceptions". That's where a lot of crap gets loaded in. Especially in Florida (motto: we've never seen an $899 dealer fee we didn't love). Besides dealer fees, you'll see title fees marked up, etc, etc..

    But, other than that, your payment seems a good $90/mo. too high. Who knows what actual numbers they are using, though.

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  • mahjedemahjede Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2017
    OK, I have all the numbers. Basic inceptions of $2340 include tax, title, dealer fee, doc processing fees and tag fees. Original MSRP is down from $53k to $48k CAP given the light usage as a loaner. Their estimated lease end value is $31,815 which gives a 66.28% residual by my math. MF is .00250 (which seems high to me). All in all, the payments seem quite a bit high given the math I'm doing (expected vehicle loss of value is less than $17k) with the numbers they gave me..?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    mahjede said:

    OK, I have all the numbers. Basic inceptions of $2340 include tax, title, dealer fee, doc processing fees and tag fees. Original MSRP is down from $53k to $48k CAP given the light usage as a loaner. Their estimated lease end value is $31,815 which gives a 66.28% residual by my math. MF is .00250 (which seems high to me). All in all, the payments seem quite a bit high given the math I'm doing (expected vehicle loss of value is less than $17k) with the numbers they gave me..?

    Residual is a percentage of MSRP, not the selling price. In your first post, MSRP is $54K, in this post it's $53K. What is the exact MSRP?

    With the numbers you've provided and the inflated money factor, I get $648/mo.+tax, or about $695/mo.
    With the base MF, $576/mo.+tax or about $616/mo.

    As you can see, their price is terrible. If they don't want to deal, just move on.

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  • spidermancaspidermanca Member Posts: 12
    Hello. Are there December '17 figures / incentives for the 2017 A4 Allroad?

    Looking for the MF and residuals for the Premium and Premium Plus for 3 years / 36K in SoCal (91325).

    Thank you for all your help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994

    Hello. Are there December '17 figures / incentives for the 2017 A4 Allroad?

    Looking for the MF and residuals for the Premium and Premium Plus for 3 years / 36K in SoCal (91325).

    Thank you for all your help!

    .00160 and 58%
    $750 loyalty

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  • dsafiandsafian Member Posts: 36
    Hello - checking in to see if there are any end of year incentives and any movement in MF and Residual (socal) for '17 A4 Allroad - Premium / Premium+ / 36mo / 36k. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,083
    dsafian said:

    Hello - checking in to see if there are any end of year incentives and any movement in MF and Residual (socal) for '17 A4 Allroad - Premium / Premium+ / 36mo / 36k. Thanks!

    .00160 MF and 58% residual

    No incentives, other than Audi loyalty

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  • spidermancaspidermanca Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2018
    Hello again,

    Sorry to again ask, but may I get January 2018 MF and residual figures for the 2017 A4 allroad Premium? 3 Years / 36K miles. Hopefully they still have figures in SoCal (91325) for a 2017.

    Also, went in December with the figures given (.0016 / 58% resid), they said the residual was actually 56%. Were they right?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 258,994

    Hello again,

    Sorry to again ask, but may I get January 2018 MF and residual figures for the 2017 A4 allroad Premium? 3 Years / 36K miles. Hopefully they still have figures in SoCal (91325) for a 2017.

    Also, went in December with the figures given (.0016 / 58% resid), they said the residual was actually 56%. Were they right?

    .00160 and 57% for 36/12
    $1000 loyalty

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