Mystery car pix

andys120 · November 2018

ab348 said:
I always liked those 914s for some reason. A 914/6 like that must be pretty uncommon these days. I understand they need to be stored in an oil bath in the salt belt.

Like most other 1970s cars Porsches would often be consumed by the tin worm but perhaps less than most competitors. Porsche went to galvanized metal in the mid-70s making late 70s Porsches among the least rust-prone of the era (along with Volvos and Benzes).

There never were many 6 cyl 914s, they were pretty expensive and they're very rare now

texases · November 2018

Sounds like there was one weak point for rust in the 914, according to the Porsche club's buyers guide:

"The most detrimental defect to look for in a 914 is rust. The worst cases of rust are usually caused by a relatively simple design flaw: the battery location. Mounted on a tray in the engine compartment, batteries would leak acid and start to corrode the tray. A rusted battery box can indicate deeper problems, as well. Left long enough, the corrosive substance can eat its way through the battery tray and the metal around it — forming what is known as the “Hell hole” — and allow battery acid to drip onto the boxed sheet metal where the right-rear suspension is mounted to the chassis. This takes major work to repair. The rocker panels on both sides of the 914 are also prone to rust, but unless there’s rust visible on the outside, they’ll need to be cut out to find out for sure.

It's too bad gel-type batteries weren't required for these cars, as there would be a lot more of them left today. If you purchase a 914 with a liquid-filled lead-acid battery, we recommend upgrading to the gel-type to avoid corrosive spillage. Finding a 914 without rust is a tall order, but fortunately the aftermarket has recreated most of the necessary sheet metal to repair the common rust-prone sections. New battery boxes are available as well, so look to see if the tray is welded or bolted in; if bolted, it has definitely been replaced."

berri · November 2018

I didn't see too many mid 50's Merc's growing up, but I think they are kind of cool.

andys120 · November 2018

Can you spot the oldest car? The newest?

berri · November 2018

Is that black delivery van behind the bread truck an IH? Can't see the further out cars too clearly. Maybe around a 48 Ford across from that 55 or 56 light green and white Mercury. Possible 57 Ford 4 vehicles behind the bread truck, but pretty unclear on my monitor.

omarman · November 2018

Headed toward the camera, lower left side, light blue(?) sedan looks like 1955 Plymouth Savoy. Stopped in traffic next to the bank ahead of the black and white delivery truck, light green /white top 1956 Plymouth Plaza-maybe.

andys120 · November 2018

The oldest looking car I see is way up the road going away in the upper right. Hard to say what it is but the black sedan is definitely not a 1950s car and could even go back to the 30s.
Two other oldies visible are the late 40s Ford (or Merc) going toward camera in the bottom left. Another old Ford of that vintage is turning left at the light.

omarman · November 2018

Bottom of pic headed away from camera, 2 tone green and white 1956 Mercury Montclair sport sedan.
Very distinctive chrome and color statements back then.

andys120 · November 2018

Yes the Merc is definitely a '56 Monterey which makes it one of the newest cars.

This photo was taken in Tazewell VA, a coal mining town which obviously prospered during the 50s (Lots of late model cars). Since then it has fallen onto hard times but now they are attempting to make use of a different kind of resource, twisting Mountain roads that might attract sports car and motorcycle enthusiasts. They're calling it "The Back of The Dragon" emulating the success another Smokies town, Deals Gap TN and it's "Tail of The Dragon".

Sounds like cool fun. (search Google or nytimes.com for more info-I can't make links work today)

lostwrench1 · November 2018

Hmmm, but the license plates are 1959 Illinois.
Street could be in Tazewell County Illinois.

andys120 · November 2018

lostwrench1 said:
Hmmm, but the license plates are 1959 Illinois.
Street could be in Tazewell County Illinois.

Not likely since there isn't anything newer than MY1956 in it. I blew it way up but can't make out a state name on the plates, I'd post a link but I can't get em to work today.

Click on this picture of 'Vette>

I think the 'Vette is a 1958, the aftermarket scoop is right where the lovers would be on a '58. You don't see many Corvettes sporting aftermarket mods but this one has some that were common then. Do you see 'em? There's at least some trim that has been removed too, see it?

Mr_Shiftright · November 2018

Yeah that's loaded with add-ons---the hardtop, the wheels, the goofy luggage rack, hood scoop. And I see the chrome trim pieces behind the flags in the cove have been removed. Did he paint his door locks? Very odd.

lostwrench1 · November 2018

Found someone familiar with the area.
The photo was taken in Tazewell County, East Peoria, Illinois.
Looking down East Washington Street, cars are turning left from South Main Street onto West Washington Street.
Bank is now a Planet Fitness.

berri · November 2018

At one time at least, East Peoria was kind of a rough town.

andys120 · November 2018

Mr_Shiftright said:
Yeah that's loaded with add-ons---the hardtop, the wheels, the goofy luggage rack, hood scoop. And I see the chrome trim pieces behind the flags in the cove have been removed. Did he paint his door locks? Very odd.

The hardtop was a factory option, a not uncommon one. The wheels are a version of the classic TorQ Thrusts by American Racing Equipment. I don't know if the gold centers were added or if they were ordered that way. Dark grey centers were commonest and would look better with this application IMO. With a better luggage rack and hood scoop this would be a very cool car. I love the colors.

Mr_Shiftright · November 2018

The wheels are too fat for the car. I do see factory hardtops for the C1s now and then, but they aren't usually installed.

andys120 · November 2018

I don't know much about these.

magnette · November 2018

I think this is a Pegaso 102. Made by Spain's then largest truck manufacturers in the early 50s.
I would imagine Iveco make more trucks now, but they certainly don't make anything like this.

andys120 · November 2018

magnette said:
I think this is a Pegaso 102. Made by Spain's then largest truck manufacturers in the early 50s.
I would imagine Iveco make more trucks now, but they certainly don't make anything like this.

That's correct it is a 1951 Pegaso Z102 /2.8liter V8 w twin Weber carbs. I'm used to seeing Pegasos with a big Cross-hair in the grille. I wonder who the coachbuilder was (AFAIK all 102s were coachbuilt).

I had to go online to find the connection between Turin-based IVECO and Pegaso. Wikipedia sez that Enasa based in Barcelona bought Pegaso and was in turn taken over by IVECO in 1994. The Pegaso(Pegasus) name was retired in 1994 after production of vehicles had ceased around 1990.

Mr_Shiftright · November 2018

Very intricate engine and only a master mechanic can build 'em.

andys120 · November 2018

Mr_Shiftright said:
Very intricate engine and only a master mechanic can build 'em.

A master mechanic or a watchmaker.

andys120 · November 2018

omarman · November 2018

Pretty. Looks like 1967 Shelby GT 500 with non-stock color. That doesn't really look like the stock Dark Blue Metallic. If it is an legit/stock '67 Shelby GT 500 then it would have a 428 with 2 X 4bbl carbs.

andys120 · November 2018

Yup, that's a '67 Shelby GT500/428. The color is a repaint in Night Mist Blue (Originally Lime Gold)

That blue looks stock to me. I have a scale '67 GT350 in the same color, it could be that there was more than one blue available. I've seen various Shelbys and Cobras painted all sorts of metallic and non-metallic blues.

Mr_Shiftright · November 2018

andys120 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:
Very intricate engine and only a master mechanic can build 'em.
A master mechanic or a watchmaker.

I hear they are a real devil to work on.

texases · November 2018

Mr_Shiftright said:

andys120 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:
Very intricate engine and only a master mechanic can build 'em.
A master mechanic or a watchmaker.
I hear they are a real devil to work on.

Sure is pretty, though:

Mr_Shiftright · November 2018

I remember one mechanic talking about how they had to use a spare timing case cover and drill a hole in it, in order to time the engine before they put the regular timing case cover back on. Apparently you need to have the timing case cover in place to set the gears and chain but when it is in place, you can't see the marks.

texases · November 2018

Sounds like lifetime employment for a Pegaso specialist.

Sounds good, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQBlzmtY9Io

omarman · November 2018

I only saw 1 pic on MustangAttitude.com for a 1967 Shelby GT500 in Dark Blue. Different lighting and reflections but maybe the same stock color.

stickguy · November 2018

That is a gorgeous car

andys120 · November 2018

stickguy said:
That is a gorgeous car

Sure is, it's for that reason that many styling features of '67 Mustangs especially Shelbys
have appeared on new generation Mustangs.

boomchek · November 2018

Anyone remember these oddballs?

stickguy · November 2018

Is that a Qvale Mangusta?

tjc78 · November 2018

Pretty sure it is. Exotic with all Ford Taurus/Mustang switch gear inside.

When the car came out I sent a note to one of car magazines feedback forum about how they really cheaped out by using Ford bits inside. They published my note with the title “Qvale is job 1”

andys120 · November 2018

ab348 · November 2018

That's a '71 Plymouth Fury III. One of the full-size fuselage cars. I was ga-ga over the design of those when they were new, especially the Chryslers and Dodges from 1970 and '71. They were given somewhat of a mixed reception in the marketplace though, and with time their bodies proved to be of lesser quality than the squared-off ones that preceded them. You seldom see ones today that do not have serious rust, cracked dash pads, and tattered interiors.

andys120 · November 2018

ab348 said:
That's a '71 Plymouth Fury III. One of the full-size fuselage cars. I was ga-ga over the design of those when they were new, especially the Chryslers and Dodges from 1970 and '71. They were given somewhat of a mixed reception in the marketplace though, and with time their bodies proved to be of lesser quality than the squared-off ones that preceded them. You seldom see ones today that do not have serious rust, cracked dash pads, and tattered interiors.

Exactly right. I always thought the Fury III name was screwy (was it three times better than a Fury?) As for the styling, the Fuselage Mopars resembled aircraft carriers from the side with a long deck punctuated by an island structure in the middle.

texases · November 2018

That's the Saratoga, one of only 3 US carriers from before WWII to make it through (8 started the war).

berri · November 2018

Good analogy!

andys120 · November 2018

texases said:
That's the Saratoga, one of only 3 US carriers from before WWII to make it through (8 started the war).

Ah another Student of Naval history. I was at the commissioning ceremony for her namesake
(CVA-60). It was a lifetime ago but the second USS Saratoga was scrapped sometime ago. The first (CV-3) was sunk at the postwar Bikini atomic test along with a fleet of prewar US vessels and former battleships and cruisers of the IJN.

berri · November 2018

Many are now gone, but if you cross the Sound from Seattle, Bremerton yard has most Carriers awaiting their final journey. You can see them lined up from the highway. Impressive, but also sad.

boomchek · November 2018

stickguy said:
Is that a Qvale Mangusta?

Yes Qvale Mangusta, with Ford mechanicals and switchgear. I was never a fan of its styling and I don't believed I ever saw one live.

andys120 · November 2018

stickguy · November 2018

I like the 67 Camaro RS in the garage better.

Front car an 88? Mustang GT in any case. I can’t tell years apart.

berri · November 2018

I like a 70 Camaro RS even better

stickguy · November 2018

I would love a 70 or 71 Camaro. SS/RS or z28. Just needs double stripes and front and rear spoilers. 350 and a 4 speed (of course).

Also a car I like as a mild resto mod. Crate motor, 5 speed, upgraded suspension and 4 wheel disks. Stock body, better seats.

andys120 · November 2018

Yer close, it's a 1989 Ford Mustang GT/5.0. I owned a similar '86 convertible GT/5.0 with a five speed. They were nice cars to fool around in, light and among the fastest of their era. I always liked the looks of the Mustang over a Camaro but that's personal taste.

thebean · November 2018

@andys120, I haven't been flexible enough to "fool around" in a Mustang for many, many years.

fintail · November 2018

The Bundys approve

tjc78 · November 2018

fintail said:

The Bundys approve

Man two references in one day....

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