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The Acura dealership gave me a selling price of $47,500, 56% residual value(Your figure says it should be 57%) and a money factor of .00235 with 12k per year. The MSRP for this car is $49,470, which includes destination. I live in NY(Westchester county). I am thinking that I could buy this car at a dealer in NJ for $46,500. Could you figure out the monthly lease for 39 months and 15K per year? If not could you figure the monthly lease for 36 months and 12K(apples to apples.
Thanks. You have really helped me in the past negotiate with the dealers.
I am looking for the 36 months lease rate, residual, and any incentives on the 2005 Vibe Base, moon and tunes package, power package, and automatic.
I need 12,000 miles/year. I am located in FL.
Thanks! Damon
Thanks again, you have been extremely helpful through this process.
I am looking at the audi tt 225 coupe for 36 mos/15k.
The residual I am being quoted is 51% and the money factor is .00075. The price: $38,100 (MSRP is $40,070). I've asked around and have been told that this is a good deal. Any thoughts? Curious as to why the residual is so low (which appears to be the case w/ many of the audis as compared to the bmw and infiniti). I guess what I'm wondering is if I can talk them down, where? price? residual?
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What a great forum you have here! Looks like you've been doing this for over 4 years now (based on the date of the first post). Thanks for providing such a great service!
I'm looking for MF's and residuals from GMAC on a 2005 Envoy and a 2005 Tahoe. 12K miles, 36 mos.
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Brickyard Dog
Audi A4 1.8 Cabriolet
36 / 12K / 15 K
42 / 12K / 15 K
48 / 12K
Audi A4 2005 A4 1.8 T quattro® Special Edition
36/12K
36/15K
Just to let you know, my first visit today to a Audi dealership the salesperson quoted me on the Cabriolet. (Did not discuss price yet)
15k mileage Residuals 36/57%, 39/54% 42/49% and 48/47%.
He said MF = .0020 then said they need to make a point on that and said it would be .0032.
I told him .002 = 4.8% interest and .0032 = 7.68%, I said that didn't add up to a point in my book and left. He called me on my cell within 5 minutes but I haven't returned his call till I get my numbers down. <Thanks for your help on this. I know I'm asking for alot of information.
Great discussion. I'm coming up on the end of my 2002 Highlander AWD V6 lease, and can purchase at 17,500 (including 6% PA tax). Car only has 36K, and is in great condition: Edmunds says 20,417 on a trade/21,710 to private seller. What are your thoughts on buying/flipping versus using the equity to reduce payments on a lease for a 2005 Highlander V6 Limited AWD? Any info on current Toyota lease terms, assuming 12,000 miles per year? Thanks
I'm looking at leasing an 05 Caddilac STS through GMAC at a local dealer. Here are the details:
05 STS V8
Luxury Performance Package
Adaptive Cruise
MSRP: $61,085
Cap Cost (GMS Employee Price): $53,816
36 mos or 48 mos
15k per year
Can you provide the money factor as well as 36 and 48 month residuals?
Also, is the residual computed based on MSRP or the selling price/cap cost?
Thanks!
The ? that I have is comparing two leases
80370 Msrp
74700 sale price
.00125 MF
Compared to the dealer lease program
799 mth with 3500 down and 5080 due at signing which include taxes tags and other normal things.
I was wondering what the better deal is???????
Thanks guess I wasn't clear enough
One thing that I notice about this deal right off the bat is the $2,000 down payment. I always advise consumers against making any sort of down payment when leasing. I do so for two main reasons. The first is if your vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen during your lease, your insurance company pays off the bank that you were leasing it through and your down payment essentially disappears. The second main reason is that down payments on leased vehicles do nothing to reduce their lease-end purchase prices. So your lease-end purchase option price for this XC90 would be exactly the same, regardless of whether you had put $2,000 down, or had made absolutely no down payment at all.
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To put your mind at ease about the lease-end process, most manufacturers' captive finance companies, banks that are owned by automakers, are fairly lenient when evaluating vehicles for excess wear and tear at lease-end. In all of the years that I have been hosting this discussion, I don't recall ever seeing a complaint from a consumer about how they were treated when they returned a vehicle that was leased through Toyota Financial Services.
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any good leases for 3 years/36k to 45k including GAP insurance? ($0 down, and minimum up front fees in New Jersey)
cap cost is at invoice. No cap cost reductions.
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Thanks for your reply and advice.
Well...I received the verdict from the Lexus dealer today. The left rear quarter panel and C pillar have to be repainted. They tried wet sanding but that didn't correct the paint defect. Since the paint defect was a major issue when I was doing my delivery inspection, the dealer said whatever happens after the car is "made right" and I have an opportunity to inspect, he wants me to be a satisfied customer. My starting point in the negotiations is a new car. They have one in stock and will hold it for me until the repaint job is done later this week. Then they will give me an opportunity to inspect the job, and decide from that point how to resolve the issue. I'm fairly confident the paint job will be professionally done, but I have this emotional thing about a brand new car being repainted and me knowing it has been repainted. At the same time, I am willing to accept a reasonable compromise, assuming the dealer would warrant the paint job for the 48 month lease term. Would it be reasonable, assuming the paint job turns out OK, to ask for all 5K mile routine service at no charge ("we owe") for the 48 month lease period, rather than going to the extreme of demanding a new car. What is the dealer cost to perform these services, mindful that the car is a Lexus ES330, and based on what I have learned so far, routine service isn't cheap. Also, what is involved on the dealers side in taking back a car (unwinding the deal) and giving me a new car.
I'm trying to cut this deal today if at all possible and would like to ask you if you could please supply me with these numbers
Audi A4 1.8 Cabriolet
MF and Residual for a 3year/12K and 4year/12K
Lease.
Sticker is $40,870, Invoice is $ 37,683 I'm shooting for 38,600.
Thanks for your help.
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If you were to lease a 2005 Audi A4 2005 A4 1.8 T quattro® Special Edition Sedan through Audi Financial Services right now for 3 years with 15,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00025 and 56%. Again, the money factor for a lease with 12,000 miles per year would be the same, but the residual value would increase by 2%.
I wouldn't allow them to if I was in your situation, but at least the dealer that you are working with told you that they are marking up this car's lease money factor. By the way, you're right adding .00100 to a car's money factor does not increase it by a point of interest, but by almost 2.5%.
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As I said earlier, once you know exactly how much money it is going to cost you to buy your leased vehicle you need to compare it to its current value on the open market. You can find out approximately what your vehicle is worth by looking up its Edmunds.com True Market Value in the Used Vehicle Pricing section of this site, which you have already done. You also may want to stop by the following discussion: "Real-World Trade-In Values". One of our most knowledgeable community members, Terry, frequents that discussion and he is often kind enough to give community members who give him an accurate description of their vehicles with his opinion on their value.
I would be more than happy to try to give you an idea of what Toyota's current lease program is like on the Highlander, but this often varies depending upon which one of its twelve regions one is in. Let me know what state you are in and I will see if I can find out what this truck's program is like in your area.
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What are your thoughts on the Volvo Advance Payment Lease for an S40? Is the single payment structured as a capital cost reduction, or a true lease payment? What happens if the car is stolen or totaled during the lease? Are there any downsides to the program? What sort of money factor would one expect to see under this program, versus a traditional lease?
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Will you give me the residual and money factor for this car with navigation(LP Package)? (I saw your previous post w/o it). Tier 1 for 24 months. I was/am planning to buy at end of March.??
But,I need some suggestions/advice.
1.Should I lease for 2 years until the redesign ('07??)? (from the talk, I think I might a sleeker, more Benzlike look).
2. If I do lease first, does this help me when I buy later?
3. When redesigns come out are the prices negotiable? If so,when?
What's your take?
Appreciated it.
Sis
Meanwhile, I'll drop in on the other discussion. Thanks again.
Sorry for missing details!
sell - 23022
msrp - 25120
state - illinois
dest charge - 525
hope you see this soon as i need to decide buy or sell by 7pm tonight.
thanks
Couple other questions. Where did you get these #'s. I ask because when I am negotiating the price how do I prove to the salesman that these are the #'s he/she should use. Also looking at VW Credit website, they mention another option, Drivers Option, do you know anything about this?
Thanks again
wifrbr
I have access to GMS pricing, so with the information you've provided, and the information from gmfamilyfirst.com, I can "build my own" and come up with a lease payment without even talking to a dealership. (sweet)
Thanks for all of your help.
Am considering leasing a 2005 BMW 530i from a Ft. Lauderdale dealership. Term is 36 months, w/15K annual miles. MSRP is $53,865. Dealer indicates capitalized cost would be $52,000, money factor is .00180, and residual is 60% of MSRP. Monthly payment is approx $725.
I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on the above lease terms.
Thanks for your help. I will keep you informed as to how I am doing.
However, November is 9 months off.. If the tires already look bad, you might have a safety issue. If you are positive the tires will be worn out by November, you might as well buy new ones now, and benefit from driving on the new tires for the next nine months...
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I also got a lease quote which was $859 for 36 months with 15k miles/year. Lease factor of .0019 with a residual of 60%.
Is this a fair deal? I am thinking of going with the lease because of the high residual being very optimistic on Infiniti's part. I can pay cash, if necesary with trading my '03 Lexus GX470.
Your thoughts please.
First of all let me tell you that I greatly appreciate the advice and service you are providing here.
Now to my question; I am wondering what your opinion is of utilizing multiple security deposits to lower the money factor is? Here's my situation:
2005 Lexus RX330 FWD 36 month 12,000 mile lease
Base money factor (770 FICO)= .00135 (3.24%)
with minimal drive off ($852.00) my payments would be $503.61 per month.
I can place up to 9 additional security deposits @ $525.00 each for a total of $4,725.00 which is fully refunded at lease end. This would reduce my money factor to .00045 (1.08%) which would reduce my monthly payment to $428.18 per month for a net savings of $75.43 per month x 36 months= $2,715.48 total savings. That would represent a 57% return on my $4,725.00 deposit if I were to invest it (which I probably could not match in todays market).
It all seems to make good financial sense to me and I'm just wondering what your thoughts are or if I'm missing something?
TIA
I want to purchase a 2005 Escalade AWD with an MSRP of $62685. My dealer is offering a lease of 36 months with 15K annual miles for $907.05 which includes tax. The sale price is $58300, the rate is 3.35% and the residual is $31050. Can I do better, or is this about right?
I just got bait and switched by Schaumburg Audi.
Went in today, spent 2 hours with the salesman and agreed on a deal on a 2005 A4 1.8 Quatro.
Final numbers were 420/month 3 year lease 15K first and security down. MSRP 32,370.
Salesman was agitated I had base lease figures and a disclosure statement I created in excel(Thanks Car_Man for my numbers) in hand during negotiations.
Went around with the Base money factor for a while and came to an agreement. Left with the intent to come back with my wife and 10 year old to pick up the new ride. Returned 3 hours later after he phoned me to see what time I was coming and had us look at the car (Only thing I didn't like was the silver interior but that model is running low) Came back to his desk to do the paper work and he told me the car was sold to someone else and would I like to look at the A.4 Quatro in the show room for 36,300 (No Special edition and loaded) He knew I eye balled that car throughout the day.(Sport package, Ebony interior, and the aluminum trim and bose system was nice) Said he would make me a great deal on. Nice deal 500 under list MF @ .0025 and a payment 499 with 500 down.
Think I used the MF saying but not as Money Factor and walked out. 2 minutes later a man from Napelton Audi called found me an A.4 Dolphin with Ebony SpecialEdition, Cold Weather Pack, Bose system and without batting an eye tells me 428/month 3 year 15K lease First and Acquisition down, no security deposit. I'm in Illinois and this price includes full tax built into the cap cost ($2,201)
Deal Is MSRP 33370 Sell 31450 (400 over invoice)
7% tax on that leaves 33661 Adjusted cap cost.
56% residual and a money factor of .00025
Bingo $ 428.76.
Sorry for the long story but I needed to vent.
My wife is really pissed, yet happy.
Thank for all your help everyone!
Interested in learning the Toyota Financial Services MF and residual for a 2005 Toyota Highlander 4x4 V6 (Model #6928)-- 36 months, 12K miles a year. I live in northern Virginia. Have seen advertised nationally for $269/mo (1,999 due at signing)
Thanks.
KR
Thanks again.
2005 Lexus ES330
MSRP - $35,419
Lease payment of $498.00 per month.
Lease term - 36 months/36,000 miles.
Lease payment includes sales tax for Illinois.
Only first payment is required for start of lease.
Sorry I don't have any other information.
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