Real-World Trade-In Values

xwesx · June 2019

nyccarguy said:
We aren't trying to break chops or be snarky.

There really IS a first time for everything!

nyccarguy · June 2019

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:
We aren't trying to break chops or be snarky.

There really IS a first time for everything!

The poor guy has 13 posts. I don't want to scare him off.

qbrozen · June 2019

I love remote start when it is particularly cold or hot out. Sadly, my bimmer doesn't have it. That black leather gets HOT in the sun!!

woodyww · June 2019

steine13 said:
At my age and station in life, I should be driving a 2009 E class wagon and try to look like I bought it new...

The funky little shop I take my bmw wagon to for service in NH--last time I was there, one of the owners suddenly had an E class AMG wagon, black/black. I don't know the year. I really like my e39 wagon with the 2.8L I-6, but.......

corvette · June 2019

Nice to see you, @woodyww!

woodyww · June 2019

Thanks, @corvette! I'm trying to remember--were you getting a law degree or something some years ago?

corvette · June 2019

Yes, I did, and it was miserable! Not recommended. Thankfully, years later, things turned out okay. Nice to see you still have the E39, you are truly a chronic car keeper!

jmonroe1 · June 2019

corvette said:

Yes, I did, and it was miserable! Not recommended. Thankfully, years later, things turned out okay. Nice to see you still have the E39, you are truly a chronic car keeper!

Geeze and you're not afraid to admit it. Being that you are a confessed lawyer, how much of what you say in here is on the up-and-up?

jmonroe

Michaell · June 2019

jmonroe1 said:

corvette said:

Yes, I did, and it was miserable! Not recommended. Thankfully, years later, things turned out okay. Nice to see you still have the E39, you are truly a chronic car keeper!

Geeze and you're not afraid to admit it. Being that you are a confessed lawyer, how much of what you say in here is on the up-and-up?

jmonroe

Gee, I missed the part of the login process where you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

I believe about 50% of what's posted here, on a good day. Except for @abacomike - his studs is way too far fetched to be made up.

jmonroe1 · June 2019

Michaell said:

jmonroe1 said:

corvette said:

Yes, I did, and it was miserable! Not recommended. Thankfully, years later, things turned out okay. Nice to see you still have the E39, you are truly a chronic car keeper!

Geeze and you're not afraid to admit it. Being that you are a confessed lawyer, how much of what you say in here is on the up-and-up?

jmonroe

Gee, I missed the part of the login process where you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

I believe about 50% of what's posted here, on a good day. Except for @abacomike - his studs is way too far fetched to be made up.

I guess you guys changed the honesty bylaws when you did your last logon update.

As for @abacomike, I agree, his stuff is sooo over the top it has to be true. No two people in our galaxy could have the things done to them what he proclaims has befell him.

jmonroe

tjc78 · June 2019

On another forum I visit, there was a poster who was telling some tall tales and even went as far to create another user name that was his "brother" to validate the story... it was wild.

The admin of the site finally caught on and realized the sign ups came from the same IP address.

He was banned, of course.

qbrozen · June 2019

gotta feel sorry for people who have nothing better to do than THAT, of all things.

andres3 · June 2019

Tall tales? like what? Privately selling a Dodge Neon for $10,000 with 100,000 miles on it?

corvette · June 2019

andres3 said:

Tall tales? like what? Privately selling a Dodge Neon for $10,000 with 100,000 miles on it?

It’ll be a classic someday - they don’t make them anymore! The Plymouth versions should be even more valuable.

tjc78 · June 2019

andres3 said:
Tall tales? like what? Privately selling a Dodge Neon for $10,000 with 100,000 miles on it?

Like saying he had Cancer and was looking for donations....

andres3 · June 2019

tjc78 said:

andres3 said:
Tall tales? like what? Privately selling a Dodge Neon for $10,000 with 100,000 miles on it?
Like saying he had Cancer and was looking for donations....

Yeah, I can't get in the "go fund me" generation for these reasons.

I also spent a brief moment of history trying to sell Life Insurance, so I find the lack of my sales career sales gets me thinking "I TOLD YOU SO" to those that didn't buy. Of course, no one says this out loud, but I felt the potential dollars for life insurance were more often being spent on Cox Cable and Cell Phones/cell phone plans.

thebean · June 2019

Or tattoos and Natty Light and meth.

corvette · June 2019

Everyone really appreciates the services of a doctor or lawyer until it's time to pay the bill. Things I've seen bought instead of life-sustaining treatment at a doctor's office, or staying out of prison (at a lawyer's office): Cigarettes, booze, four wheelers, tattoos, cars, drugs, vacations, the newest flagship phone, cosmetic surgery, etc... Many of these same people will one day decide they want to have savings for the future and buy an insanely expensive whole life insurance policy that, in many cases, will barely provide for their burial expenses.

28firefighter · June 2019

Ain't that the truth.

I used to work in family court and my god...I stopped counting the number of folks who claimed they could not afford court filing fees and then walked up with the latest iPhone.

kyfdx · June 2019

28firefighter said:
Ain't that the truth.

I used to work in family court and my god...I stopped counting the number of folks who claimed they could not afford court filing fees and then walked up with the latest iPhone.

$20/month..

henryn · June 2019

Living here in the 'hood, I get to hear a lot of "stories". This one guy came knocking on my door looking for a handout, did I have any work he could do to get money to feed his kids. I told him he could paint my storage building and I would pay him a fair price. He declined, stating that he was afraid of getting paint on his "new $150 sneakers".

But, to be fair, there are a lot of honest hard working people around here, who work their b_____ off trying to make ends meet. After a while, you learn which is which, who is who. I'm always good for $3 for bus fare to those whom I know will spend it on bus fare and not a quart of malt liquor.

explorerx4 · June 2019

I think dealer service records can be good if you buy/trade in at same dealer.
Fuel mileage records probably don't matter to them.

stickguy · June 2019

dealer doesn't need them. they have them in the system. And always seem real reluctant to share.

explorerx4 · June 2019

When I've traded in some of my previous rides, they are listed as 'Sold new and serviced here'.

henryn · June 2019

explorerx4 said:
When I've traded in some of my previous rides, they are listed as 'Sold new and serviced here'.

I don't know that I have ever seen that listed on an ad, but I have encountered it.

When I purchased the 2006 Sedan DeVille, the salesman told me it was a one owner, bought new at that dealership and serviced there. When I was doing the paperwork for the purchase, the finance guy made a point of showing me the title, which was original and showed clearly that it was sold by that dealership in 2006 brand new with something like 2 miles on the odometer.

corvette · June 2019

28firefighter said:
I used to work in family court and my god...I stopped counting the number of folks who claimed they could not afford court filing fees and then walked up with the latest iPhone.

One of the many things that ground my gears when practicing in a rural area: if you're accused of neglecting your children, you're entitled to a free court-appointed attorney, who is generally an attorney in private practice who is paid a pittance of a flat-fee to be there for numerous court dates. Technically, you're supposed to be indigent to qualify, but there appeared to be no official test.

Parents who were accused of criminal activity and hired private attorneys still got free court appointed lawyers in the child neglect cases! I would have put an end to that real quick by "appointing" their privately paid criminal defense counsel as their court-appointed attorney in the child neglect cases.

jmonroe1 · June 2019

28firefighter said:
Ain't that the truth.

I used to work in family court and my god...I stopped counting the number of folks who claimed they could not afford court filing fees and then walked up with the latest iPhone.

It's and old story, people have money for what they WANT; houses, cars, clothes, jewelry. You name it, even top of the line phones as you've mentioned but never enough for the important things in life.

jmonroe

nyccarguy · June 2019

28firefighter said:
Ain't that the truth.

I used to work in family court and my god...I stopped counting the number of folks who claimed they could not afford court filing fees and then walked up with the latest iPhone.

I work in a bad neighborhood and I see a lot of people who "work the system." Women walking $1,500 BUGABOO Strollers up the street while smoking and yelling on an iPhone (Whatever the newest, biggest, most expensive one is) to one of their "baby daddies" while their other children are 1/2 a block behind them. Older guys who know what to say to their MD to get Viagra prescriptions because the government will pay for it, then turn around and try to sell them on the street per pill. It is sad because there are A LOT of people out there who truly need help.

dillydill · June 2019

"As quick as EV technology (i.e. range) is improving, buying a used EV is like buying an iPad from 2014."

I think an iPad from 2014 has had less of a depreciation curve than some of the EV's today.

I currently have an iPhone SE and I just bought my wife a "new to her" Iphone 7 this week. I don't mind having slightly older tech as long as it does what I need it to do.

dillydill · June 2019

looking to see what my sienna is worth and what is worth fixing.

Massachusetts
2011 Toyota Sienna LE FWD
177,xxx miles
Dark Blue exterior Gray cloth interior
Front bumper has large dent
Interior is almost Taliban special
AC doesn't work-needs compressor
Front brakes are new
Rear brakes-need replaced
Right sliding door has broken cable- so we just use both sliders manually.
Rear door tail gate sensor doesn't work.
Tires are recent.

To fix the one slider I have been quoted $1400.
I am not sure what the cost of the ac compressor is but I am guessing over a grand. I am waiting on a quote.

What is this worth as a trade as is,
Should I fix the slider and ac?
How about private party?

It still runs and rides well.
Thank so much.

stickguy · June 2019

I’d dump it and run. Definitely not worth fixing the door.

28firefighter · June 2019

Dump the whole thing and run - sounds like you have gotten your money's worth. Sell it on craigslist asking for $5k and take the first person that shows up with cash over $3k.

nyccarguy · June 2019

I'm very curious about the "almost TALIBAN SPECIAL" interior.

dillydill · June 2019

nyccarguy said:
I'm very curious about the "almost TALIBAN SPECIAL" interior.

I think Terry or Bill started this saying over 15 years ago.
A quick search for "Taliban" on this thread shows it goes back a long time.

Interior of the Sienna is slightly beat up with missing trim pieces here and there.

qbrozen · June 2019

Sorry, folks, but some kind of international app conspiracy is preventing me from accessing auction data while overseas. We’ll be back in business middle of next week.

28firefighter · June 2019

You sir need a VPN.

steine13 · June 2019

As I recall, the "Taliban Special" originally referred to Toyota or Nissan 4cyl bare bones pickup trucks, as they are or were back then the vehicle of choice for irregular forces.
I shudder to think what that interior looks like...

steine13 · June 2019

Taliban special
October 2003
This board was 10x more active back then.

steine13 said:
Learned Friends,

I saw an ad in the paper today for a '99 Tacoma, 5sp, $5995. So I thought, sounds like a good winter beater, and went to look at it.

It's a 2wd reg cab, black, 68k, with AC and power steering and not a whole lot else; kinda the Taliban special, if you get my drift. Bedliner, good shape overall, brakes are terribly grabby and squeak, probably from sitting around in the rain. Window sticker still reads an optimistic "$7995". A faint smell in the interior with matching coffee stain in the middle of the bench seat. Apparently never smoked in, no dogs, nothing too bad. With a seat cover, it could be considered "clean" on a stretch. The tires are "ok" but before the snow, I'd prolly put two new ones in the rear, just in case.

All books and original window sticker are there, but of course the book isn't stamped. ugh.
Did the usual checks; bolt heads, panel alignment, vin stickers: Looks accident-free.
No junk in the tail pipe, dipstick clean, valve train "looks" clean through the filler hole; no leaks that I could find, seems to be a pretty "together" little truck.

I wrote down the VIN (1st owner leased, 2nd owner bought, no negatives reported), shook hands, and left, and was promptly chased by the used-car manager. $5 if I take it right now, he said, so I asked him to write it on the back of his business card, which he did.

I'm thinking I might get this puppy checked out out.

But what's it really worth at auction, and what should it retail for?
Snow in the forecast Thursday...

Long-windedly yours,
-Mathias

Talk about a trip down memory lane -- I have no idea why I didn't buy this thing on the spot -- can you believe a used-car manager chasing a customer to sell a four-year-old clean Tacoma for $5,000 even? This was 16 years ago.
Of course, today's Taco is not that Taco.
That's a lot of words, though...

woodyww · June 2019

28firefighter: "Dump the whole thing and run - sounds like you have gotten your money's worth. Sell it on craigslist asking for $5k and take the first person that shows up with cash over $3k."

I needed a good laugh today--that Sienna sounds like one of the most awful vehicles I've ever read about on this forum--or at least top (or bottom) 10 maybe. I'm wondering if $3K is optimistic tho? If it were in my driveway & someone showed up with $1800 & didn't give me any hassle, I think I'd take it.

dillydill: "Should I fix the slider and ac?" NO, don't even think it. Just blow it out for whatever you can get. The fact that it still runs well is a huge plus tho.....that's the (only) selling point.....

woodyww · June 2019

steine13: "As I recall, the "Taliban Special" originally referred to Toyota or Nissan 4cyl bare bones pickup trucks, as they are or were back then the vehicle of choice for irregular forces."

I owned one of those, for 3 long years. '86 Toyota (used) pickup w/rubber seats, rubber flooring, 4 sp., not even tinted glass, but it did have A/C. Kind of a tinny "death trap", had the crash resistance of a tin can I'd guess, but I flogged the thing into Boston almost every night for those years, & it did great. Got some great deals on some used & new furniture back then, & hauled it with the truck. I still have some of that furniture.....

henryn · June 2019

A friend of mine has a 95 Tacoma, cab-and-a-half, with around 60k miles. She just drove that thing from Houston to Nashville last week. Braver than I am…

I do recall driving a 1957 Ford (which cost me all of $100 back in 1970) from Texas to Iowa. Of course, I was a crazy college kid, and I was fully prepared to abandon the thing and start hitch hiking at any time.

That ’57 Ford did make it to Iowa, no problems. Shortly after I got there, I loaned it to someone who totaled it. Long ago and far away

jmonroe1 · June 2019

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5725085#Comment_5725085

For a second there I thought you were going to say you kept the pickup to make razor blades.

jmonroe

henryn · June 2019

At some point, back in the late 70s or 80s, my younger brother had a Datsun pickup. Yes, so far back it was called a Datsun, not a Nissan. That was a single cab, 4 cylinder, 4 speed. No A/C, no power anything. That thing was probably 10 years old when he got it, and already beat to hell.

We used to go out to his deer lease and see just how far we could make it back into the woods. We had a rope based block and tackle, and when push came to shove, we could pull that Datsun through just about anything. I doubt it weighed more than 2,000 pounds.

It looked roughly like this picture I found on the internet of a 1974 Datsun pickup.

steine13 · June 2019

Doesn't have to be THAT old. Here's an 83 Datsun that we owned for a few months back in aught-six:

Looks real clean but blew the intake gasket and was just generally going 'old car' on me, so I dumped it for what I had in it and was grateful...it was fun while it lasted.

qbrozen · June 2019

dillydill said:
looking to see what my sienna is worth and what is worth fixing.

Massachusetts
2011 Toyota Sienna LE FWD
177,xxx miles
Dark Blue exterior Gray cloth interior
Front bumper has large dent
Interior is almost Taliban special
AC doesn't work-needs compressor
Front brakes are new
Rear brakes-need replaced
Right sliding door has broken cable- so we just use both sliders manually.
Rear door tail gate sensor doesn't work.
Tires are recent.

To fix the one slider I have been quoted $1400.
I am not sure what the cost of the ac compressor is but I am guessing over a grand. I am waiting on a quote.

What is this worth as a trade as is,
Should I fix the slider and ac?
How about private party?

It still runs and rides well.
Thank so much.

Ok, back in business. Trade as is? Maybe $2k-$2500. If everything worked and it looked good inside and out, you could actually see a good $7500 private party. So, as is, maybe $3500-$4k.

are your repair quotes from a dealer or private party? I can't believe a broken cable costs $1400.

jmonroe1 · June 2019

I agree about the cable cost being high, waay too high. That 1400 bucks should be for the compressor AND the door fix.

jmonroe

dillydill · June 2019

qbrozen said:

dillydill said:
looking to see what my

Ok, back in business. Trade as is? Maybe $2k-$2500. If everything worked and it looked good inside and out, you could actually see a good $7500 private party. So, as is, maybe $3500-$4k.

are your repair quotes from a dealer or private party? I can't believe a broken cable costs $1400.

1400 was from Toyota dealer.
Thank you!

steine13 · June 2019

Q - It's good to have you back, sir!

2007 Volkswagen Passat sedan, black, 2.0 turbo, 6MT. Traded at the local VW dealer...I know where those turn up... One owner, looks like a car half as old.

Interior is clean, paint looks fantastic, some curb rash on the alloys and one flaw: rust on front driver's wheel well. Which is what happens in the rust belt when any sheet metal gets exposed, at all, ever. I believe it's the "2.0 T" trim level. Does have leatherette and sunroof, that's as far as I got.

Just under 100k miles. No price on it yet, and at 13 years old, it's all in the condition, but I thought I'd ask.

[Meanwhile, the sage green 2008 A6 4.2 quattro that looked amazing for its age has disappeared from the trade-in lot and not turned up anywhere. Probably snapped up by an employee. Good luck; THAT car would not be for the faint of heart.]

I'll say Thank You now -- don't like to clog up the forum with 'empty' posts. cheers -mathias

sda · June 2019

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steine13 said:
Q - It's good to have you back, sir!
2007 Volkswagen Passat sedan, black, 2.0 turbo, 6MT. Traded at the local VW dealer...I know where those turn up... One owner, looks like a car half as old.
Interior is clean, paint looks fantastic, some curb rash on the alloys and one flaw: rust on front driver's wheel well. Which is what happens in the rust belt when any sheet metal gets exposed, at all, ever. I believe it's the "2.0 T" trim level. Does have leatherette and sunroof, that's as far as I got.
Just under 100k miles. No price on it yet, and at 13 years old, it's all in the condition, but I thought I'd ask.
[Meanwhile, the sage green 2008 A6 4.2 quattro that looked amazing for its age has disappeared from the trade-in lot and and not turned up anywhere. Probably snapped up by an employee. Good luck; THAT car would not be for the faint of heart.]
I'll say Thank You now -- don't like to clog up the forum with 'empty' posts. cheers -mathias

I had an 06 Passat 2.0t. Wonderful car. I loved the way it drove and seemed to be of high quality. Used oil about 750mi per quart/synthetic. Many electrical and check engine light issues. The cam follower and ac compressor are weak points. Careful with that one and check maintenance records, and have it checked out by a mechanic. I know, a lot for a cheap ride, just a heads up.

steine13 · June 2019

@sda -- a friend had an '04 A4 with that engine... I know all about the high-pressure fuel pump.

I also know about how he hydrolocked the engine, killing it, in a heavy downpour on the freeway -- I guess that's one thing that's easy to avoid if you know it's an issue. Germans don't know from weather.

I still have six thousand miles to go on my present lease... my experience has always been I find good cars exactly when I don't need them.

That particular dealership has the VW AND Audi AND Subaru franchise. All their low-end cars go to the same independent lot, and the people are reasonable. They just got an '05 Outback in good shape, 5MT, 150k, no visible rust, for $3,175. That's a great price, as clean beaters go, but a good look underneath shows more rust than I'd want to buy into.

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