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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,379

    Hey. I don’t make the news. I just report it. Apparently it failed, put the whole car into limp mode, and would not drive. 

    Did he buy it at an Audi dealer? Are they telling him to pound sand? Hopefully they will take care of it.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXPosts: 2,575
    edited June 2019
    I'm surprised no one else has addressed this. Basically, a failed O2 sensor will not put a car into "limp mode". This is "to the best of my knowledge", supplemented by a quick google search and 5 minutes of reading.

    Certainly my T&C did not go into limp mode when the O2 sensor failed. And down through the years, I have helped quite a few with bad O2 sensors, and I do not recall any of them going into limp mode.

    And "would not drive" does not compute. "Limp mode" is short hand for "limp home mode". The car will still drive, but you will have reduced power.

    I suspect your "friend" misrepresented things.
    2018 Ford F150 XLT Crew Cab, 2016 Chrysler Town & Country Touring
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,430
    au1994 said:

    stickguy said:

    now this is a nice looking BMW. to me, what they are supposed to be! i know it is unloved being a big bumper heavy smog car, but it seems pretty clean and is cheap enough. Someone with the ability to DIY the minor stuff can have a fun little around town toy. Or, do some real upgrades and have more fun romping on it.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-bmw-2002-87/

    I like that a lot. I’m a BMW guy but I never understood the hate for big bumpers or square taillights on the 2002. This looks like a great weekender for a decent price.
    I loved my 1975.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    henryn said:
    I'm surprised no one else has addressed this. Basically, a failed O2 sensor will not put a car into "limp mode". This is "to the best of my knowledge", supplemented by a quick google search and 5 minutes of reading. Certainly my T&C did not go into limp mode when the O2 sensor failed. And down through the years, I have helped quite a few with bad O2 sensors, and I do not recall any of them going into limp mode. And "would not drive" does not compute. "Limp mode" is short hand for "limp home mode". The car will still drive, but you will have reduced power. I suspect your "friend" misrepresented things.
    Not really looking to argue with you - he is a friend and given the pictures from the flatbed I don’t believe he was intentionally putting on a performance. Dealer replaced the O2 sensor and all was well. 

    It was bought private party. 
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,736
    I agree with what you guys are saying, but, at the same time .... Audi. Nuff said.

    '03 F250 7.3, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 52-car history and counting!

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,390
    So far, our 2015 A3 has been flawless. She owns it and has almost 48K on the clock. I usually don't drive it, just easier that way. If something happens, better I'm not the one at the wheel. It's been much more reliable than my Golf though!
    Seriously, thinking of going back to "cheap to keep" come the end of the year. I like a warranty, so need to get something with a longish one and something that's under 175".

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    edited June 2019
    Punch for me. But it isn’t a car and doesn’t have a motor. 

    Think I mentioned that I WFH full-time and when we bought our house 18 months ago, the plan was to use the “formal” dining room as my office. Only problem was it wasn’t enclosed and I’ve just had things in the open. 

    3 months ago we custom ordered a set of French doors to enclose the office that would allow us to retain the natural light we get through the window in that room and match the house like it was from new. 

    May not seem like much, but trying to find doors to fit a nearly 8x8 opening is harder than you’d think. 

    Voila: 


    *if you’re curious, the plastic zip tie on the bottom left is part of the baby gate system. 
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • henrynhenryn Houston, TXPosts: 2,575
    edited June 2019


    henryn said:

    I'm surprised no one else has addressed this. Basically, a failed O2 sensor will not put a car into "limp mode". This is "to the best of my knowledge", supplemented by a quick google search and 5 minutes of reading.

    Certainly my T&C did not go into limp mode when the O2 sensor failed. And down through the years, I have helped quite a few with bad O2 sensors, and I do not recall any of them going into limp mode.

    And "would not drive" does not compute. "Limp mode" is short hand for "limp home mode". The car will still drive, but you will have reduced power.

    I suspect your "friend" misrepresented things.

    Not really looking to argue with you - he is a friend and given the pictures from the flatbed I don’t believe he was intentionally putting on a performance. Dealer replaced the O2 sensor and all was well. 

    It was bought private party. 

    -==-=-=-=-=-=-=- end quoted material =-=-=-=-=-=-

    It was not my intention to get into an argument, and if my statements appeared that way, then I apologize.
    2018 Ford F150 XLT Crew Cab, 2016 Chrysler Town & Country Touring
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,981
    Looks great @28firefighter
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    pensfan83 said:
    Looks great @28firefighter
    Can you make out the second picture in? My favorite city. 
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 216
    edited June 2019
    I went to check out a 2016 Cayenne GTS, 2019 Cayenne S, and 2019 Macan S. I hated the 2016 Cayenne GTS. I felt that the 2019 Cayenne S was a ripoff and didn't handle much better than my Q8 or really much of anything else on that platform, but definitely better than the 2016 Cayenne. I really liked the Macan S. Are Porsches worth it?
    2019 Audi Q8, 2017 Porsche Cayenne S, 2015 Mercedes-Benz GL63 AMG, and 2005 Mercedes-Benz E500W4

    Previously owned/leased BMWs, Volvos, and Volkswagens
  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast IllinoisPosts: 216
    edited June 2019


    pensfan83 said:

    Looks great @28firefighter


    Can you make out the second picture in? My favorite city. 
    Looks like Pittsburgh to me.
    2019 Audi Q8, 2017 Porsche Cayenne S, 2015 Mercedes-Benz GL63 AMG, and 2005 Mercedes-Benz E500W4

    Previously owned/leased BMWs, Volvos, and Volkswagens
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    pensfan83 said:
    Looks great @28firefighter
    Can you make out the second picture in? My favorite city. 
    Looks like Pittsburgh to me.
    Nailed it. 
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,981
    Nice!

    Three Rivers Arts Fest is going on now, tomorrow I'm planning to take an actual lunch and wander over to the point.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,956
    nice looking doors. We have a similar set up (standard center hall colonial) where the "formal" LR is to the right as you come in the door, behind the stairs, with the opening, well, open. Useless room. We have a desk (and desktop PC) that we never use, and a couch that gets sat on at Thanksgiving maybe. Would be much better set-up like yours, with doors to create an office space. Even though it is probably 2x as big as it needs to be. If I was able to redesign it, I would make it a more compact office in the front, and add the rest to the family room that is behind it.

    easier to just move of course and get what I want!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    edited June 2019
    kyfdx said:

    Especially since it's almost impossible to itemize, any more.

    Same, even though I file single--that's going to be a common refrain for a lot of the middle class. Really reduces the potential value of the mortgage interest deduction for a lot of people. On the other hand, my fixed interest rate on my primary residence is something like 3.75%, so not awful even if it's not deductible.

    A lot of the state-specific deductions in our fair state's income tax got eliminated in 2018, too.

    Looking at the last few years of my late, widowed, great-aunt's tax returns, she paid around $6-7,000 in federal taxes and close to zero state with an AGI of about $55,000 consisting of mostly taxable SS benefits, interest income, a pension, and some state tax-exempt bonds. My goal is zero fed and state tax by the time I stop working and draw SS... fortunately, I have quite a long time to plan that! :p
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,956
    my goal is to have so much money flowing in when I retire I need 2 accountants to keep track of it all. Sadly, I don't think that is likely to happen.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    stickguy said:

    my goal is to have so much money flowing in when I retire I need 2 accountants to keep track of it all. Sadly, I don't think that is likely to happen.

    LOL, yes, obviously I want that with the zero taxes!
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,796
    Now now, @nyccarguy, I never said I was a Pittsburgh sports fan. I still bleed green. 
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • au1994au1994 GAPosts: 1,657
    Our X6 went into 'reduced power' mode once. It was still fine and safe to drive, IE would do 60 just labored to do it. Pulled off and turned it off and on and it was fine.

    My 335 convertible had a water pump issue and went into that mode and I pulled over and left it. It wouldn't do 30. Not that I would have wanted to run it with a bum water pump anyway. 30 would get you flattened around here.

    2019 Subaru Crosstrek Limited Venetian Red over Black
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    @28firefighter Nice doors!
    @nyccarguy Cute kid!

    @corvette Zero taxes? Hilarious. The KY state changes have definitely not helped seniors. My 91 yr old uncle owed state income taxes for the first time in years. Also, once RMDs hit when you are 70? If you've been a big saver and user of 401K and traditional IRAs, you are going to get a huge tax bill, each year. I'm starting to see why so many people move to FL, where there is no state income tax. Still trying to figure that out (but, nine years left until RMDs)

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,390
    Nice doors...and stairs. Gave up stairs over 30 years ago when we sold the townhouse. Now, so glad we have a one story home.
    RMD's I think have to start once one is 70 and 1/2 but would have to ask my CPA wife to find out for sure. I just hope I make it to that age so I can start pulling out some funds. Looking to start putting more into muni bonds so if I do pass earlier than I'd like, the kids will have something. Not really necessary to leave them anything, but since my grandma and dad did for me, feel I should do the same for my 3 no matter how large or small. Since I'll be turning 65 later this year, have a lot to think about such as Medicare and deciding how long I stay at Hertz. Thinking that mid 2020 might just be the right time to make a quiet exit.
    And hoping to move by the end of 2020 or early 2021 up to central or southwest Florida. Getting way to crowded down here...been here almost 50 years!

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Posts: 1,155
    QV hang. In there! We are all hear for you!
  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Posts: 1,155
     Welcome to the group  NB  enthusiast you’re not far off from my age awesome there’s a few others in here to awesome we all anymore it’s all in one way or another  
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    @kyfdx I’ve been doing Roth conversions for a while. Didn’t do any last year because my income was abnormally high, but every little bit helps. They are talking about raising the RMD age to 72. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    corvette said:

    @kyfdx I’ve been doing Roth conversions for a while. Didn’t do any last year because my income was abnormally high, but every little bit helps. They are talking about raising the RMD age to 72. 

    We've been doing some Roth conversions. Unfortunately, KY dropped the exemption for retirement income from $41K to $31K. I can still fit some conversion in that window, without triggering state income taxes, but my wife's pension puts her over the limit. That reduces some of the incentive for doing that.

    Federal income taxes are very low, in general. But, if you get a big investment return in one year, it just kills you.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,116
    edited June 2019
    Saab enthusiasts take note!

    YOU can own the very last Trollhatten-built Saab 9-3!!!

    Of course you might never be able to drive it and have to keep it in climate-controlled storage for 40 years to get your investment back, but still... B)

    https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2019/06/11/the-final-saab-story-nevs-to-auction-the-last-trollhattan-built-9-3

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,390
    Need to start doing the Roth conversions but figure I'll wait till I retire again and then start since our income will be lower.
    The Medicare issue is complex as my government health insurance is a secondary insurance, not a supplemental kind. My wife is under my insurance and always has been, and always will. Have been told that since I've started taking my s s benefits, I'd be automatically enrolled in Medicare. But thinking I'd like to put it off a year until she she turns 65, and then both of us use Medicare. Since my current health insurance is a secondary one, kind of muddies up the waters so just not sure what to do at this juncture? Guess being a retired federal employee under civil service complicates things. All I know is that once I pass, she'll get my pension though at a reduced percentage, probably half, as I recall. Filled out so much paperwork back then that it's hard to remember it all.

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWPosts: 2,945
    Consider yourself lucky you don’t/didn’t have to deal with the high deductible, high premium debacle of health insurance the rest of us had to.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    carnaught said:

    Consider yourself lucky you don’t/didn’t have to deal with the high deductible, high premium debacle of health insurance the rest of us had to.

    So, I should be complaining about my $2200 monthly healthcare premium? :o

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWPosts: 2,945
    edited June 2019
    kyfdx said:

    carnaught said:

    Consider yourself lucky you don’t/didn’t have to deal with the high deductible, high premium debacle of health insurance the rest of us had to.

    So, I should be complaining about my $2200 monthly healthcare premium? :o

    I think our wonderful legislators should have to deal with health insurance that we peons have had to.

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 3,084
    " Your first RMD must be taken by April 1 of the year after you turn 70½."
    - Ray
    Turning 70 and a half next year . . .
    2016 BMW 340i
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 158,890
    rayainsw said:

    " Your first RMD must be taken by April 1 of the year after you turn 70½."
    - Ray
    Turning 70 and a half next year . . .

    Don't wait until the next year.... you'll have two RMDs that year. No grace period on the 2nd year.

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  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 3,084
    Agree - from a tax perspective...
    - Ray
    Plan to take my 1st RMD next year.
    2016 BMW 340i
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,956
    lots of people screw up that first one. you can take it before 1/1 to spread them out into 2 different tax years. But once you wait until 4/1 you have to get the second one too by 12/31.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 835
    Is RMD a required minimum distribution?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,956
    yes.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    As opposed to RWD.  :p
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,618
    We’re at 3100 pages of CCBA discussion. My first car had a GM 3100 V6. That engine didn’t have the following that the 3800 did, but you could hear the pushrods thrashing around just as well.  ;)
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,116
    corvette said:

    We’re at 3100 pages of CCBA discussion. My first car had a GM 3100 V6. That engine didn’t have the following that the 3800 did, but you could hear the pushrods thrashing around just as well.  ;)

    I never liked the 2800/3100/3400 series of engines. They all had a clattering sound like a sewing machine.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • fintailfintail Posts: 50,997
    2800 and 3100 especially had what I call the "popcorn popper" exhaust note, too.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,106
    At the end of March 2017, I purchased my 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD as a CPO car.  The person who leased it originally drove only 7,468 miles in 2 1/2 years.  I have put significantly more miles on it since then.  


    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,736
    nyccarguy said:
    At the end of March 2017, I purchased my 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD as a CPO car.  The person who leased it originally drove only 7,468 miles in 2 1/2 years.  I have put significantly more miles on it since then.  


    Is that the only car you drive?

    miles like that is why I have my wife in more than one vehicle. ;)

    '03 F250 7.3, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 52-car history and counting!

  • au1994au1994 GAPosts: 1,657
    I've driven quite a few of the 3.8 GM engines and while it may be loud and a little rough, it makes good power. My mom had a Cutlass Ciera with it and that would move nicely when driven by a 17 year old.

    2019 Subaru Crosstrek Limited Venetian Red over Black
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,582
    I just looked at the miles on the Enclave (it's usually hidden, by miles to empty) and we just crossed 20. Sept is 2 years so pretty much on point with the 12K /yr lease.

    The Elantra still hasn't crossed 17K and goes back in November.... guess we should drive that one more.

    Wife has been using that for her 10 mile round trip commute to the train. She likes how easy it is to park. So, I have been mostly driving the Enclave. As nice and comfortable as that thing is I just prefer a car.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,116
    au1994 said:

    I've driven quite a few of the 3.8 GM engines and while it may be loud and a little rough, it makes good power. My mom had a Cutlass Ciera with it and that would move nicely when driven by a 17 year old.

    My only experience with the 3800 was in my first-gen Lacrosse and it disappointed me. But I concluded that was due to a faulty transmission they never did get fixed properly and which led me to unload the thing. I based that on the performance of a loaner Lacrosse with the same engine I got one time the dealer was tearing my transmission apart again. The loaner was much more zippy than my car.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 37,956
    my TLX turns 6 months old (time flies!) next week. Should be sitting right about 4,000 miles by then. The Sonata went back at the end of the 3 year lease with 20.500 on it. The RDX turns 7 in September, and that is still just under 54,000.

    we need to get out more!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,106
    @qbrozen

    Pretty much. Since I had the clutch replaced last year for a tidy sum (It is almost time for the 2nd timing belt replacement and my tires are shot), I've pretty much kept my Prelude parked. Also I have to park on the street here at work and I know one day it is going to get hit (It is inevitable, like Thanos). I could take my wife's Pilot a few days per week. Besides the miles, the Q40 sucks down 93 at a rate of less than 20 mpg. Gas is expensive in CT and I'm filling up to the tune of about $57 - $60 once a week (ish).

    Ideally I'd be looking to get into a 2 year lease of something where they don't kill you if you go over the miles or let you buy the miles in advance at a significant discount. I've toyed in my head to see if it would be financially advantageous to lease 2 cars with 10K per year, but that's way more expensive than leasing a car and paying for the extra miles up front. I'm open to suggestions as always!

    Part of the reason I was looking at the Tacoma is due to the fact that I could take out a 12K per year lease in order to take advantage of the high residual value, put down the MSD (which lowers the monthly payment by about $50/month), and then use the MSD to pay for the extra 16,000 miles (plus the disposition fee) I'd drive during the 2 year lease (TFS only charges $.15 per mile if you go over) when I turn it in at the end of the lease.

    If I were to take a 15,000 mile per year lease on a car that charges $.25 per mile over, then I would go over my miles (and likely be out of warranty at some point during the lease). It would cost me an extra $3,750 over 3 years (plus tax) or $104.17 per month. On a 2 year/15,000 mile per year lease, I'd only go over my miles by 10,000 which would cost me the same $104.17 per month, but $2,500 total.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • marcogallo1986marcogallo1986 Posts: 1,155
     Send man well this government stuff is crazy what they make everyone do. 
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