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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
but yeah, sometimes showing up in person is the way to go.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I noticed that I’d been flagged as a “bad lead” by the dealership I eventually leased my Q8 through. The first deal with them blew up when things that we’d agreed upon weren’t reflected in the lease agreement. It blew up even further when the “sales manager” ripped the papers out of my hands when I said I’d like the night to read over them. I’ve also had salespeople seemingly become frustrated with me, asking me if I’m serious because I’d been cross-shopping multiple makes and models. “You’ve sent leads into BMW, Land Rover, and Mercedes. What are you looking to accomplish?” Oh, I dunno...get a good deal on a car that I like... So, these days they are more focused on low information and emotionally attached buyers.
I just met with the salesman selling a GL 63. I told him what time I’d be coming in. But...he was dealing with another customer, and I hate to deal in stereotypes, but I’m sure that she was easier pickings—so she got more attention.
Well, the salesman wasn’t interested in negotiating. I asked him how motivated they were. He started lecturing me about how the price had been reduced multiple times...yes, but it’s also been on this lot since at least April. It’s also both pre-facelift and the outgoing chassis. “It’s priced in.” I don’t think so. It’s higher than the other GL 63s in the area, and it’s lacking a few of the options that AMG buyers typically order. Guy was kind of rude when talking about a pre-purchase inspection demanding that I have my mechanic “ready to go, so I don’t have to be sitting there all day instead of selling cars” Ummm...I’m sure you can drop the car off there or let me take the car there like every other fricking dealer in the area.
I’m not begging for any car, and I’m not paying above NADA trade-in, let alone retail, for something like this. Did I mention that this dealer can’t sell a VSC for it? I have to go to my credit union and finance through them. He didn’t ask me for an offer. Again, not going to beg for any car.
she actually thought the Volvo model sounded best, since she knows how to use an iPhone, so mimicking that would not bother her!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
But I'm now spoiled by the handling and 4-wheel steering of my TLX. I don't think a Subaru is going to have handling that's as good.
https://www.volvoofhasbrouckheights.com/new-inventory/index.htm?search=&model=V60&gvBodyStyle=Wagon
With a good trade-in on 7 year old RDX you might only have 20k left to finance.....?
I actually think, factoring in everything, the new OB is actually the perfect option for us and she would really enjoy driving it. Just need to try one out, and convince her of it. And yes, a Limited XT turbo (a loaded car) will MSRP for a fair bit less than the base price of a Volvo, before you add the option packages that are must haves.
I told her that when we are serious, will have to spend some time playing with the controls, even pairing her phone, using carplay, all that stuff.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
that one is not bad, but still expensive for a 2 YO unit, and it is the old body style. The cross country version I found on Carvana was also a 2018, but only $25,100.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My local Subaru dealers doesn't actually have any 2020 Outbacks in stock. Several are in transit apparently, and so they should be arriving soon. Getting the very first of the line of an all-new model might be a little bit of a risk.
I hate getting the old style when I know that new stuff is out there.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
http://media.subaru.com/newsrelease.do?id=1422
The Outback has a CVT, and so people who don't like those might not like the transmission experience.
"The new 2020 Onyx Edition XT features black-finish exterior elements, 18-inch alloy wheels and badging, and an exclusive gray two-tone interior. Further, the seats are wrapped in a new water-repellant durable StarTex™"
So vinyl seats on the Onyx.
I went through the configurator and that Onyx model was tempting, because of the price, but I think there were a couple of feature omissions that I would regret not getting. Just don't recall what. Plus, I think the wife would like the styling, wheels and trim on the limited better.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Subaru CVTs from the past have sometimes had reliability issues apparently. Some of Subaru's past CVTs were actually made by Jatco, and Jatco CVTs sometimes get mixed reviews. But maybe the 2020 Outback has a new CVT done by Subaru? I don't know....
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Something is happening to me. If I start buying more flannel and growing my beard, someone slap me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR3eZZcgoZ0&t=154s
Mom & Dad went back to the dealer that they bought and have serviced their 2016 Cayenne since they bought it 3 years ago. My Mom does a lot of driving and her Porsche SUV currently has about 76,000 miles. Their salesman they worked with last time and thought was great now sells Ferraris in Florida. They called & made an appointment to test drive the Macan. The Salesman did answer all their questions, but had another couple there as well. He kept looking at his watch. My parents expressed interest in a 25,000 mile per year/ 2 year lease. The salesman kept saying: well, she should take a 15K per year lease and “watch her miles” and that they should take a 3 year lease because Porsche usually has a 12 month pull ahead program. They weren’t happy with how they were treated and later that night went on the dealership’s website. They clicked where it said to give them feedback. They ripped the salesman and it got posted to cars.com.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I email him the specifics of how I want the lease. Explained that we were good customers who have bought a vehicle there and literally have spent thousands of dollars in their service department during the last 12 months. I admittedly put in a lowball offer, but you don’t know until you try. His response was, “I own the car for $X and am not willing to sell for less.” I feel like if I had a trade that I owed more money on than it was worth he would offer me what the car was worth and wouldn’t care how much I owed on it. So now I’ve got his offer, time to email some other dealers.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
So I started reaching out to a few other dealers in the area. One on the recommendation of a very good customer of mine who is a Porsche enthusiast who has dealt with the sales manager at a Porsche dealer in NJ (dealer #2). The sales manager from that dealer had one of his salesmen contact me via email. He gives me numbers and everything I ask for. He keeps quoting figures from US Bank which has a lower money factor and residual along with a number that is 8% off sticker. He asks how I want to proceed. I tell him the truth that his selling price is too high.
I start looking at inventory at other dealers. I find one in CT (dealer #3) that suits their tastes and send in an email request. The guy gets back to me with every number I ask for. He’s super responsive and very professional. In the end, his selling price is much higher than dealer #2 and then there is a $695 conveyance (doc) fee tacked on to it.
I also emailed a 4th dealer in NJ. I asked about a few vehicles. They were sold and never taken off the website.
So I email dealer #1 late in the afternoon to tell him we’d like to buy the car from him. I laid out the lease parameters using the selling price he gave me. I’ll see if he gets back to me tomorrow. If not. Next week.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I had one from GM last time waiving 4 payments.
At least you have something in writing
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
if you have time , check out porsche macan forum ; lots of people discussing prices and how much you can get off MSRP for left over 18 and 19s;; several people order from dealers in Atlanta and Ohio as best pricing via internet sales manager and have shipped or fly/drive
..is it big enough for the Danes?...
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
I love it. Good luck today sending off the 3!
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
I hear you in the limits of such a car with a family. I’m enjoying the flexibility of the GTI as a fun car, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss the Miata.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
An example from the first category was a lady who was turning in a leased F30 that needed tires at all four corners. The hit from the tires was going to be $1,200. We offered to waive that charge if she leased another car. At the request of the NCM I went ahead and turned the car in to BMW FS without a tire replacement charge.Next day when the new car was ready for pickup she called and said she changed her mind- she wasn't interested in another lease. My NCM(who was new to BMW) asked if I could unwind the lease turn-in and charge her for the tires, but that ship had sailed. From that point on we never turned the lease vehicle in until the paperwork for the new lease or purchase was completed and the customer took delivery.
A prime example of the second group was a guy who wanted an X5M and wanted us to sell him a set of winter tires/wheels at $500 below our cost to go with it.
Another reason to "fire" a customer was when it was obvious that they were an unhappy and overly critical individual from the minute they walked in the showroom. Those types would inevitably ding us with a bad survey no matter how hard we tried to please them, so I would rather lose a sale than take the hit on the survey.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S