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  • fintailfintail Posts: 48,072
    The 80s especially were probably the pinnacle of MB quality, and probably tops for brand cachet as well. They managed supply and demand better, and resale values were exceptional.

    An immaculate low mileage example of one of those old diesels, especially in wagon form, has good value today, too.
    houdini2 said:



    Those late '70s early 80s MB 240/300Ds would run forever. Really held their value too.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 48,072
    From my anecdotal observations on MB forums and from people I know, C-class are much improved from W204 (2008) onward, E-class from W212 (2010) onward, and S-class from W221 (2007) onward. Maintenance can still be painful, but less "Achilles Heel" issues than turn of the century era models.

    Those German taxis are also all 4cyl cars, we only had a 4cyl diesel for MY 2014-16, it's the one to get.
    driver100 said:



    I would agree with what fintail said. I think the newer models, since about 2014 and maybe a bit earlier are pretty reliable. Taxi drivers usually have garages that do their repairs for a lot less...big volume for a guy that can repair MBs. Diesels are less troublesome, and the cars are usually taxi models with less equipment to go wrong.
    I would trust a Mercedes to go as far as most cars with similar repair record, just if tricky electronics and 9 speed transmissions start to go....things could add up.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 121,524
    Da Vinci conceptualized the CVT in the late 15th century.

    Hardly new technology.

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  • sb55sb55 On an Island in VermontPosts: 422

    driver100 said:

    Fascinating to see how they load the cars on to a ship. They are 4 inches apart....driver can only open the door of the last car parked. Drivers are taken by van back to get more cars. Now there is a fun job! Worth 2 minutes to see how they do it.

    That’s kind of like my job except they don’t get to sleep in the van. :p On the other hand I’m sure they get longshoreman’s union wages.

    Yesterday made up for my puny pay. We were sent to Plattsburgh to pick up cars which meant 2+ hours of napping and drinking coffee. We then spent the day cruising Lake Champlain on the ferry as we went back and forth to Burlington VT. It was like a paid vacation.


    You drove right past me in South Hero. I would've bought you lunch!

    2007 Miata PRHT, 2014 BMW 535d X-drive, 2017 Chevy Silverado LTZ Ext. cab with 6.2 V-8

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 11,539

    This was a few hears ago, but when Cadillac bought my CTS back, I was in the market for a car quickly. Before I went to a new lot, I was looking for something I could buy quickly on CL. Guy was advertising a 1 year old G37-S that looked really good in the pics. He was in Columbus (about a 1.5-2 hour drive for me), so I called him to get info.

    Drove to take a look at it, and it looked good from the outside. Took it for a test drive and realized I couldn’t adjust the seat. Owner said it was the seat motor, which he would replace for free if I bought it. Also noticed that “musty” smell in the car, mixed with the Lysol smell coming out of the HVAC vents. It ran fine. But, I quizzed him on the smell. He said it was from leaving one of the windows open when it rained.

    By this time, I knew to look a little harder. Sure enough, there were damp areas in the back seat carpet, under the bottom of the front seat backs, and actually a little puddle of water under the driver’s seat (which explained the seat motor being inoperative). I also noticed one of the drain plugs was missing.

    I asked him if the car was a flood car. He said he had no idea. Digging a little deeper, he said he bought it because it needed “a little work” which he could do himself, and give it to his wife, but she didn’t want the car. You’re giving her a $45K car and she said “no”? Strange indeed!

    Finally, I asked for the VIN, which he insisted he’d give me (he did, but it was one digit off). I finally got the VIN from the plate in the front window, and it ended up being a flood car from the east coast.

    I asked him if the title was clean. He said the work he had to do caused the car to have a rebuilt title, but everything was fixed. I punted.

    He was obviously trying to hide the truth from me. And, while it was priced under market, it wasn’t priced nearly to where it should have been with a rebuilt title.

    He called me every day for a week lowering the price. I finally told him I knew he wasn’t being straight with me and I wouldn’t buy the car from him for $1. He cussed me out and hung up on me.

    Guys like that should be in jail for fraud. Did you look it up in the federal data base (NICB) to confirm that it was a total lost flood car? Did the seller list the rebuilt title in his CL ad? If he listed it as clean title he was a crook.

    I bet the next buyer didn’t have your street smarts and got taken.
    Not sure about street smarts. I just know when something doesn’t smell right (literally).

    I did look up the (correct) VIN. It was a flood car from the East Coast. IIRC it was a car that was caught in a flooded area on the Eastern Seaboard.

    Never saw the title, but the seller did his level best to hide the fact that it was a salvage title that had to be rebuilt. Not exactly what he (or someone else) had to do to it to get the Rebuilt Title. But, I wanted nothing to do with it.

    It was black with tan leather interior. If it had black interior, I may not have noticed some of the tell-tale signs. The smell made me leary, though.
    2018 Acura TLX 3.5 SH AWD A-SPEC
  • houdini2houdini2 Posts: 360

    Michaell said:

    thebean said:



    Ouch. Bimmer 4 series concept. Where is Bangle when you need him?

    Starting to rival Lexus in its level of hideousness...
    That says it perfectly.
    Surely that BMW was a photoshop.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 13,319
    sb55 said:

    driver100 said:

    Fascinating to see how they load the cars on to a ship. They are 4 inches apart....driver can only open the door of the last car parked. Drivers are taken by van back to get more cars. Now there is a fun job! Worth 2 minutes to see how they do it.

    That’s kind of like my job except they don’t get to sleep in the van. :p On the other hand I’m sure they get longshoreman’s union wages.

    Yesterday made up for my puny pay. We were sent to Plattsburgh to pick up cars which meant 2+ hours of napping and drinking coffee. We then spent the day cruising Lake Champlain on the ferry as we went back and forth to Burlington VT. It was like a paid vacation.


    You drove right past me in South Hero. I would've bought you lunch!
    Counting me you’d have to treat 6 grumpy old men. What’s better, Wally’s or the Blue Paddle?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 13,319

    This was a few hears ago, but when Cadillac bought my CTS back, I was in the market for a car quickly. Before I went to a new lot, I was looking for something I could buy quickly on CL. Guy was advertising a 1 year old G37-S that looked really good in the pics. He was in Columbus (about a 1.5-2 hour drive for me), so I called him to get info.

    Drove to take a look at it, and it looked good from the outside. Took it for a test drive and realized I couldn’t adjust the seat. Owner said it was the seat motor, which he would replace for free if I bought it. Also noticed that “musty” smell in the car, mixed with the Lysol smell coming out of the HVAC vents. It ran fine. But, I quizzed him on the smell. He said it was from leaving one of the windows open when it rained.

    By this time, I knew to look a little harder. Sure enough, there were damp areas in the back seat carpet, under the bottom of the front seat backs, and actually a little puddle of water under the driver’s seat (which explained the seat motor being inoperative). I also noticed one of the drain plugs was missing.

    I asked him if the car was a flood car. He said he had no idea. Digging a little deeper, he said he bought it because it needed “a little work” which he could do himself, and give it to his wife, but she didn’t want the car. You’re giving her a $45K car and she said “no”? Strange indeed!

    Finally, I asked for the VIN, which he insisted he’d give me (he did, but it was one digit off). I finally got the VIN from the plate in the front window, and it ended up being a flood car from the east coast.

    I asked him if the title was clean. He said the work he had to do caused the car to have a rebuilt title, but everything was fixed. I punted.

    He was obviously trying to hide the truth from me. And, while it was priced under market, it wasn’t priced nearly to where it should have been with a rebuilt title.

    He called me every day for a week lowering the price. I finally told him I knew he wasn’t being straight with me and I wouldn’t buy the car from him for $1. He cussed me out and hung up on me.

    Guys like that should be in jail for fraud. Did you look it up in the federal data base (NICB) to confirm that it was a total lost flood car? Did the seller list the rebuilt title in his CL ad? If he listed it as clean title he was a crook.

    I bet the next buyer didn’t have your street smarts and got taken.
    Not sure about street smarts. I just know when something doesn’t smell right (literally).

    I did look up the (correct) VIN. It was a flood car from the East Coast. IIRC it was a car that was caught in a flooded area on the Eastern Seaboard.

    Never saw the title, but the seller did his level best to hide the fact that it was a salvage title that had to be rebuilt. Not exactly what he (or someone else) had to do to it to get the Rebuilt Title. But, I wanted nothing to do with it.

    It was black with tan leather interior. If it had black interior, I may not have noticed some of the tell-tale signs. The smell made me leary, though.
    Hey, when someone lies about the VIN and conceals a rebuilt title, that’s a crook pure and simple.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 33,314
    Good job! I can verify that the 3.3t G70 is a serious rocket. Floor it at 50 and you get jammed back into the seat. My son really likes his.

    Hopefully genesis comes out with a compact CUV soon to compare to the RDX.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 13,319
    edited September 11

    I follow a young lady singer in the local area. She has a couple of bands, one a pop band, the other a Big Band. Either way, she’s quite talented.

    That’s a prelude into what I did last night. I was watching her performance this past weekend and saw someone who does a lot of Hyundai commercials in the audience (small venue...we were sitting at tables next to each other). He is the GM of one of the local Hyundai/Genesis/Acura dealerships in the area and come to find out, he’s the singer’s brother. The venue was a fairly nice restaurant, and the singer was performing with her jazz trio outside on their patio. You can see the parking lot from this patio.

    So, when I pulled up, people can see you approach. I sat down with my friends next to this signer’s brother’s group. He saw me pull up my TLX with his competitor’s license frame on the car.

    When I sat down, the singer was performing but waived at me. During her break, she introduced me to her brother. Making small talk he asked how I liked my car. I recognized him, but couldn’t place him until he told me he was the GM of the competing dealership.

    Cut to the chase, I asked him about the Genesis and why there were no dealerships in the area. He corrected me and said his Hyundai Dealership did indeed sell Genesis. Matter of fact, he said his store was the highest volume Genesis store in the country (maybe they didn’t have to sell many of them to make that claim). We went on for a while talking about how the whole Genesis brand and having separate dealerships really didn’t seem to be working. He agreed. He said Hyundai wasn’t offering much in the way of incentives for the dealerships to build new facilities like Acura did when they first offered dealerships.

    Plus, he said Genesis has been caught in another sales trend moving more towards SUVs. His number one seller is now the RDX followed closely by the MDX in all the stores he manages.

    We talked about the upcoming TLX Type-S and said I should give him a call when they’re released and he’d get me one of the first test drives (yay!). I also mentioned I thought the Kia Stinger was quite a car. He laughed and said he agreed except for one problem.....they’re being sold by Kia dealerships. He invited me to take a test drive in a G70, which I did last night.

    Can’t believe I’m saying this, but it feels like a much different car than the Stinger. It feels lighter and more balanced. It certainly is much nicer, inside and out. The two Stingers I’ve driven all had some squeaks. The G70 was as solid as could be. Plus, the MSRP is the same as a Stinger only with a better warranty and a nicer car all the way around.

    Told him I wasn’t in the market, yet. But, he did say he’d offer me any G70 at invoice and that he’d a apply a $3,500 conquest cash credit too since Genesis considers Acura a competitor. Pretty compelling!

    While I was in the area, I test drove an ES350 and a Camry XSE V6 back to back. In all honesty, I thought the Camry drove better and was more fun, by a pretty big margin. Plus, there was about a $17K delta between the price of the ES350 and the Camry. I’d choose the Camry. Toyota always made high quality cars, but they’ve really upped their game with the new Camry.....very refined....good steering heft (understeers a bit, though)...quiet and felt about as quick as my TLX.

    REally a good time to compare the segment leaders in the Accord and Camry. Both, extremely nice cars for the money.

    Before I knew it, what started out as casual tire kicking at 6:00 p.m. lasted until it was dark, and me taking myself out to dinner after test driving. Fun night.

    Sorry, I can’t see you being happy in anything but an Acura. That does sound like a fun night though.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 10,858
    I was behind a G70 in traffic the other day, first one I've noticed around here. Styling was fairly muted, I thought, and you could see the Hyundai family resemblance. The one thing that struck me odd was that it still used an incandescent bulb for the rear turn signals. That seemed out of place on a premium car these days (though far better if one fails!).

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,422
    I'm hearing more advertising by local stores for the Genesis brand though I also suspect they are operating out of an existing Hyundai store. With more inventory becoming available I'm hoping to fit a test drive in soon.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2014 Nissan Altima 3.5SL - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road Double Cab
  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 11,539
    @oldfarmer50 ....you're probably right. Not in the market....at least until the new Acura comes out.

    Still, I'm amazed at how good some of these cars have become in the short time I've been out of the market (2.5 years). And, how good some of the cars are in that $30K-$35K range (which is about $10K less than what my TLX came in at). I was particularly impressed with the Camry...something I thought I'd never say. Lexus dealership was nice and they had a "different" feel. But, with the ES350 vs the XSE V6, there's no way I'd pick the ES350. The Camry is that good.

    Move up the ladder in the upper $40sK, and you're into some serious sports sedan like the Genesis.

    Personally, being someone who loved the Stinger, I can't see any reason whatsoever to buy one of those when you can buy the Genesis for the same price.

    Interesting note on walking into a Kia store and dealing with Genesis, Kia sales people have dogged me since last January to "come in and make a deal". The most recent one was typical "grind it out" telling me the Stinger was a hot car and MSRP was the price, but to make them an offer (I didn't and they had 13 of them sitting on the lot).

    Genesis (who did have a separate office and waiting area in the same building as the Hyundai dealership) on the other hand gave me "boutique" coffee and Vitamin Water while talking to the GM who was a joy to talk to. That said, he also didn't hand me over to a sales person. He made a point of telling me that once I decided on the car, he'd have it delivered to me at home and that all the paperwork could be done via email. Nice touch.
    2018 Acura TLX 3.5 SH AWD A-SPEC
  • sb55sb55 On an Island in VermontPosts: 422

    sb55 said:

    driver100 said:

    Fascinating to see how they load the cars on to a ship. They are 4 inches apart....driver can only open the door of the last car parked. Drivers are taken by van back to get more cars. Now there is a fun job! Worth 2 minutes to see how they do it.

    That’s kind of like my job except they don’t get to sleep in the van. :p On the other hand I’m sure they get longshoreman’s union wages.

    Yesterday made up for my puny pay. We were sent to Plattsburgh to pick up cars which meant 2+ hours of napping and drinking coffee. We then spent the day cruising Lake Champlain on the ferry as we went back and forth to Burlington VT. It was like a paid vacation.


    You drove right past me in South Hero. I would've bought you lunch!
    Counting me you’d have to treat 6 grumpy old men. What’s better, Wally’s or the Blue Paddle?
    I'm a grumpy old man myself.
    Wally's is bagels and deli. Blue Paddle is expensive sit down. Seb's is fried snack bar.

    2007 Miata PRHT, 2014 BMW 535d X-drive, 2017 Chevy Silverado LTZ Ext. cab with 6.2 V-8

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,433
    thebean said:

    I have been puzzling over a Mercedes situation. Anecdotal data says you really don’t want to own a Merc that is out of warranty, especially if it’s your daily driver (unlike driver100, who only uses each one of his for 6-7 months/year max), due to a lot of issues that could and do go wrong. My experience, albeit from 20 years ago, with my 1999 E-Class mirrors this. Even though I sold it before warranty ran out, there were quite a few smaller things (primarily electrical) that necessitated trips to the dealer. And I didn’t put a ton of miles on it during my ownership.

    Now, here is the question. I have seen views of Germany and there are tons of Mercs serving as taxis. Taxicab companies use their vehicles at least 16 hours/day. They don’t want to have even moderate downtime with their vehicles. So, the Mercs they use must be pretty robust. What’s the difference between those cars and the Mercs we get here in the States? Are they “strippers” with none of the electronic “gee-gaws” on the US cars. Are they diesel cars and does that make a difference?

    Any thoughts would be appreciated. I hope this doesn’t qualify as a @jmonroe1 length post. B)

    This is kinda where I am with my XF. Out of warranty since the beginning of '18, but no overt signs of trouble. Besides the failing rear turn signal LED that is; a full tail lamp replacement. Is this just a harbinger of (electrical) issues to come? Probably not, it is a British car...

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 24,756

    This was a few hears ago, but when Cadillac bought my CTS back, I was in the market for a car quickly. Before I went to a new lot, I was looking for something I could buy quickly on CL. Guy was advertising a 1 year old G37-S that looked really good in the pics. He was in Columbus (about a 1.5-2 hour drive for me), so I called him to get info.

    Drove to take a look at it, and it looked good from the outside. Took it for a test drive and realized I couldn’t adjust the seat. Owner said it was the seat motor, which he would replace for free if I bought it. Also noticed that “musty” smell in the car, mixed with the Lysol smell coming out of the HVAC vents. It ran fine. But, I quizzed him on the smell. He said it was from leaving one of the windows open when it rained.

    By this time, I knew to look a little harder. Sure enough, there were damp areas in the back seat carpet, under the bottom of the front seat backs, and actually a little puddle of water under the driver’s seat (which explained the seat motor being inoperative). I also noticed one of the drain plugs was missing.

    I asked him if the car was a flood car. He said he had no idea. Digging a little deeper, he said he bought it because it needed “a little work” which he could do himself, and give it to his wife, but she didn’t want the car. You’re giving her a $45K car and she said “no”? Strange indeed!

    Finally, I asked for the VIN, which he insisted he’d give me (he did, but it was one digit off). I finally got the VIN from the plate in the front window, and it ended up being a flood car from the east coast.

    I asked him if the title was clean. He said the work he had to do caused the car to have a rebuilt title, but everything was fixed. I punted.

    He was obviously trying to hide the truth from me. And, while it was priced under market, it wasn’t priced nearly to where it should have been with a rebuilt title.

    He called me every day for a week lowering the price. I finally told him I knew he wasn’t being straight with me and I wouldn’t buy the car from him for $1. He cussed me out and hung up on me.

    Guys like that should be in jail for fraud. Did you look it up in the federal data base (NICB) to confirm that it was a total lost flood car? Did the seller list the rebuilt title in his CL ad? If he listed it as clean title he was a crook.

    I bet the next buyer didn’t have your street smarts and got taken.
    Not sure about street smarts. I just know when something doesn’t smell right (literally).

    I did look up the (correct) VIN. It was a flood car from the East Coast. IIRC it was a car that was caught in a flooded area on the Eastern Seaboard.

    Never saw the title, but the seller did his level best to hide the fact that it was a salvage title that had to be rebuilt. Not exactly what he (or someone else) had to do to it to get the Rebuilt Title. But, I wanted nothing to do with it.

    It was black with tan leather interior. If it had black interior, I may not have noticed some of the tell-tale signs. The smell made me leary, though.
    Hey, when someone lies about the VIN and conceals a rebuilt title, that’s a crook pure and simple.
    No, he is just a glass is half full type of guy. Always looking for the positive :D

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 24,756
    GG While I was in the area, I test drove an ES350 and a Camry XSE V6 back to back.

    Quite a day GG, you sure did accomplish a lot including some interesting car comparisons. The new Toyotas look pretty substantial and look nice........I was hoping they also improved the driving dynamics and it sounds like they have.

    G70 sounds like it could be a winner too considering the price.

    Enjoyed reading your perceptions of these cars.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 24,756

    thebean said:

    I have been puzzling over a Mercedes situation. Anecdotal data says you really don’t want to own a Merc that is out of warranty, especially if it’s your daily driver (unlike driver100, who only uses each one of his for 6-7 months/year max), due to a lot of issues that could and do go wrong. My experience, albeit from 20 years ago, with my 1999 E-Class mirrors this. Even though I sold it before warranty ran out, there were quite a few smaller things (primarily electrical) that necessitated trips to the dealer. And I didn’t put a ton of miles on it during my ownership.

    Now, here is the question. I have seen views of Germany and there are tons of Mercs serving as taxis. Taxicab companies use their vehicles at least 16 hours/day. They don’t want to have even moderate downtime with their vehicles. So, the Mercs they use must be pretty robust. What’s the difference between those cars and the Mercs we get here in the States? Are they “strippers” with none of the electronic “gee-gaws” on the US cars. Are they diesel cars and does that make a difference?

    Any thoughts would be appreciated. I hope this doesn’t qualify as a @jmonroe1 length post. B)

    This is kinda where I am with my XF. Out of warranty since the beginning of '18, but no overt signs of trouble. Besides the failing rear turn signal LED that is; a full tail lamp replacement. Is this just a harbinger of (electrical) issues to come? Probably not, it is a British car...
    Is Jaguar still considered British....or Chinese, Tata Motors? One tailight mishap after 6 or 7 years is not a big deal, 2 or 3 things going wrong could be a signal of more problems. It depends more, I would say, at this stage if you want a new car. You may want to get an idea of what new ones are selling for, and what yours is worth.

    I am coming to the conclusion that if you buy a luxury car, you should be prepared to keep it for the long haul, as the depreciation is more than ever these days.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,433
    Tata is actually of India, driver. But, Jag is British as always! Tata has been fairly hands-off.

    No, the turn signal isn't a biggie, found (used) replacement units online for as low as $180. But, there were other issues, during the warranty period. Perhaps all that was to go wrong, has.

    6 years is the long haul, isn't it? :D

    Liking the '20 XE, it's like a 7/8 XF, but more modern, agile, economical and fun! But, not many on the ground, enjoyed my test drive. Probably would have to order to my liking. Being a '20, no deals for a while...probably.

    Hail, Britannia!

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 10,489
    Well, I was at the eye doctor this morning to have my lenses measured for replacement prior to my cataract surgery. It’s scheduled for November 26th. I am going to have to pay $1675 per eye to have laser surgery instead of the surgeon using a scalpel, as strongly suggested by my brother. I am having regular lenses put in - otherwise it would have cost me $2500 more per eye. I have worn glasses all my life (started when I was 9 years old) so I decided to not have the corrective lenses put in.

    I am just concerned about getting around without being able to drive until both eyes are done.

    2018 Mercedes S450

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,610
    I had surgery where part was paid by insurance, but I had to pay for the astigmatism correction which I understood to be similar to lasik. The computer scored my cornea in a manner that corrected almost all astigmatism.

    AFter I had one eye done, I removed the lens from that side of my glasses and wore them part of the time with my new eye and my glass lens working. It was a little dizzying at times. But the first eye was given too strong a lens so I focus at about 2 feet--great for reading. So it was fuzzy and my old eye and glasses were sharp.

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,110
    I also opted to pay for the laser cataract, and I’m glad I did. used a contact lens in the uncorrected eye until they did th second one. The eye folks gave me a couple similar to my vision requirements.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 13,319
    abacomike said:

    Well, I was at the eye doctor this morning to have my lenses measured for replacement prior to my cataract surgery. It’s scheduled for November 26th. I am going to have to pay $1675 per eye to have laser surgery instead of the surgeon using a scalpel, as strongly suggested by my brother. I am having regular lenses put in - otherwise it would have cost me $2500 more per eye. I have worn glasses all my life (started when I was 9 years old) so I decided to not have the corrective lenses put in.

    I am just concerned about getting around without being able to drive until both eyes are done.

    I thought laser surgery had pretty much replaced the scalpel. That’s what my wife got on both eyes.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 23,610

    abacomike said:

    Well, I was at the eye doctor this morning to have my lenses measured for replacement prior to my cataract surgery. It’s scheduled for November 26th. I am going to have to pay $1675 per eye to have laser surgery instead of the surgeon using a scalpel, as strongly suggested by my brother. I am having regular lenses put in - otherwise it would have cost me $2500 more per eye. I have worn glasses all my life (started when I was 9 years old) so I decided to not have the corrective lenses put in.

    I am just concerned about getting around without being able to drive until both eyes are done.

    I thought laser surgery had pretty much replaced the scalpel. That’s what my wife got on both eyes.
    I thought that too. The key for mine was whether I wanted the LaserX, I think it was called, which corrected the astigmagtism as best it could. I had the standard lenses installed. I didn't think I would like trying to train my eyes to adjust to different distances through different parts of the same lens. I used to get dizzy from the distortion of my glass lenses at angles through them which made door frames curve, etc.. Luckily because of the bad outcome on my first eye and the focus being too close, with the regular lenses I have one eye for close reading and the other for normal room distance viewing. My brain ignores the interference from the other eye.

    I still laugh about the optometrist who examined my eye the second day after surgery. I told him I could read the shampoo bottle ingredients through the plastic eye shield. He insisted I was getting the pin hole camera effect, implying that I was too dumb to know what I was saying. Turned out I was right and my focus was close on that eye. I saw throught the smooth plastic between the air holes in the eye cover.

    I was studying pin hole camera effects reading books about optics in physics before that optometrist was born. And he was lecturing me.

    When I saw the surgeon a few days later, he panicked and had all the tests rerun before they did the other eye. He thinks the person doing the testing did something wrong. (Blame the little guy.)

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 24,756

    Tata is actually of India, driver. But, Jag is British as always! Tata has been fairly hands-off.

    No, the turn signal isn't a biggie, found (used) replacement units online for as low as $180. But, there were other issues, during the warranty period. Perhaps all that was to go wrong, has.

    6 years is the long haul, isn't it? :D

    Liking the '20 XE, it's like a 7/8 XF, but more modern, agile, economical and fun! But, not many on the ground, enjoyed my test drive. Probably would have to order to my liking. Being a '20, no deals for a while...probably.

    Hail, Britannia!

    Thanks for the info. Actually quite an interesting transfer from Ford. Yes, Tata is Indian.
    The parent company was renamed to Jaguar Land Rover Automotive PLC, Jaguar Cars Limited was renamed to Jaguar Land Rover Limited and the assets (excluding certain Chinese interests) of Land Rover were transferred to it. The consequence was that Jaguar Land Rover Limited became responsible in the UK for the design, manufacture and marketing of both Jaguar and Land Rover products
    WIKIPEDIA

    Glad they didn't call Jaguars Tatas!
    And, I am glad Daimler decided to call his cars Mercedes.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 24,756

    abacomike said:

    Well, I was at the eye doctor this morning to have my lenses measured for replacement prior to my cataract surgery. It’s scheduled for November 26th. I am going to have to pay $1675 per eye to have laser surgery instead of the surgeon using a scalpel, as strongly suggested by my brother. I am having regular lenses put in - otherwise it would have cost me $2500 more per eye. I have worn glasses all my life (started when I was 9 years old) so I decided to not have the corrective lenses put in.

    I am just concerned about getting around without being able to drive until both eyes are done.

    I thought laser surgery had pretty much replaced the scalpel. That’s what my wife got on both eyes.
    Don't they still have to make an incision with a scalpel? If they do it is nothing....eye has no nerves. I had laser corrective surgery (not a lens...just laser) in 1996 and it has been fine since then.
    I know lots of people who have had lenses for cataracts put in and they all love their new sight...better than ever. One friend had one eye done last week, will have another eye done in a few weeks......wore a patch for a day is all.
    Lenses are done in Canada at no cost, unless you want upgraded lenses like bifocal lenses.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 4,880
    I had cataract surgery back in 2013 and a touch up in 2017. I was myopic before the surgery and wire glasses. Basically read out if my left eye and saw distance out of the right one. Desperately wanted the glasses gone, so gad the surgery. Was off the charts beforehand but a day later, was at 20/25, which even surprised them!
    Only downfall was I need reading glasses to read now! Kinda sucks, but can read most smallish print without if necessary but not for very long. Was it worth it??? Absofrickinlutely!!!

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,433
    sb55 said:

    driver100 said:

    Fascinating to see how they load the cars on to a ship. They are 4 inches apart....driver can only open the door of the last car parked. Drivers are taken by van back to get more cars. Now there is a fun job! Worth 2 minutes to see how they do it.

    That’s kind of like my job except they don’t get to sleep in the van. :p On the other hand I’m sure they get longshoreman’s union wages.

    Yesterday made up for my puny pay. We were sent to Plattsburgh to pick up cars which meant 2+ hours of napping and drinking coffee. We then spent the day cruising Lake Champlain on the ferry as we went back and forth to Burlington VT. It was like a paid vacation.


    You drove right past me in South Hero. I would've bought you lunch!
    One of my favorite trips during my travelling salesman days. Called on IBM in Essex Junction and IP Ticonderoga. So, enjoyed the ferry to/from Plattsburgh. As well as living in Burlington for ~5 months after college. Wannabe ski bum, it didn't snow that winter.

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,597
    The reality is that they need to get the old lens out, which in my case was a real pain with one eye, the other one not so much. The lenses they put in its place are shaped to bring your vision back to normal. That's the magic part -- the measurements they took of my eyes prior to the surgery were what made the new lenses so good. The surgery can be difficult, but the result is very much worth it.
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