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  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,559
    Sheesh. I go away for a week and you guys all go crazy. So congrats to...everybody? To @kyfdx @pensfan83 @breld @28firefighter (in theory) and @corvette (also in theory) with new rides, of course. And to the rest of us for having entertaining free content. Now please continue with the show, I'm getting bored.

    Tesla X Performance / Tesla 3 Performance

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,577
    It was after 2 pm when I arrived, so only one table occupied. Zoom in on the guy behind the counter. He is the owner. Talked to me for 95% of the time I was there.

    The place is easily 5% bigger than everything you see in the photos. 😏

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,577
    They give you a “hillbilly fortune cookie” with your meal. It’s a Little Debbie Oatmeal Creme Pie.

    If you don’t know what that is, well, you don’t belong in a real BBQ joint. 😉

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,500
    I’m not sure which is better - the gun rack behind the counter or the fact they seem to use Chevy parts in their BBQ.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,322
    It's very simple, My s s check isn't big enough to pay for Medicare Parts A & B, so I have to kick in the rest. I get a federal pension as I was a Civil Service employee. That ridiculous 1984 Windfall Provisions Act basically says sure, you paid in but now, we'll only give you a fraction for your s s payment. Totally ridiculous and unfair, but not going down that road even though it's plain unfair to us retirees! No amount of logic can make this right in any way, shape or form!

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,083
    Current contenders for my next punch:

    Used 2018 440 coupe
    Used 2017 M2
    Used 2019 Bullitt
    New Stinger GTS

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,231
    Top 2 - 97% chance

    Stang - 2%

    Kia - 1%

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,577
    tjc78 said:

    Top 2 - 97% chance

    Stang - 2%

    Kia - 1%

    I give the Bullitt about an 8% chance. :D

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 36,968
    All this activity, I am feeling left out. Need to get the wife off for at least 1 test drive this weekend. Probably Toyota and BMW dealers.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 12,560
    corvette said:

    Didn't feel life turning on the tv, so I ended up watching a video of a guy that bought a car in Florida(Coco Beach) and drove it back to Oklahoma City without a license plate.
    According to him and the police who pulled him over, it's better to drive with no plate than the wrong one.
    Paperwork was ok, so they let him go.

    I think it's basically impossible to get a temporary tag, unless you're a dealer, so that makes it difficult for private party sales.
    It depends on the state system used. Here we used to have plate-to-owner, so if you privately sold a car you took the plate off before the new owner drove off. In turn they were supposed to go to the DMV with the paperwork and get new plates. If you wanted a vanity plate they gave you a paper tag until that arrived. Now it is plate to vehicle, so the plate always stays attached to that car.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 36,968
    edited February 19
    I have not tried in NJ. Usually just drove on the plates I already had if I could not get to DMV first. I think it is legal too. Like insurance. You get a certain amount of time to switch over coverage.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD (wife's)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,971
    edited February 19

    Current contenders for my next punch:

    Used 2018 440 coupe
    Used 2017 M2
    Used 2019 Bullitt
    New Stinger GTS

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 27,366
    Not sure I can see going from an M235 to a 440 coupe.

    '19 Ioniq plug-in, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 50-car history and counting!

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,120
    kyfdx said:

    Lunch at. BBQ joint in Junction City, KS. Really good



    Yuuummmm...I miss me some good BBQ. Have fun on your drive home.

    BTW, I know you're not going to be home, but I'm taking my neighbor to the Ft Mitchell Mercedes dealer (Wyler) to pick up his new CLA, tomorrow. Kind of looking forward to seeing him take delivery.


    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,120
    JustinS said:

    Hey everyone. I don't post often but wanted to share my recent purchase. I happened to be browsing Facebook Marketplace last Sunday night and found this 2007 Acura TL Type-S with 123k miles. Drove it the next day, purchased the following day after our local mechanic checked it out. Scooped it up for $5k. The local mechanic didn't find any issues, but did recommend a few service items due to age/mileage (timing belt, drive belt, water pump, etc). I ended up calling an Acura dealer and their price was competitive so had quite a bit of service done. Hoping this car lasts me a few years!




    Hooray! That's a nice car for a nice price. Congrats! You should get another 100K miles out of that.
    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,120
    edited February 19
    @benjaminh ...my sincere condolences!

    Posted over at the Acura forum regarding all the info I've heard about the 2021 TLX. Should be out in the May-ish/June-ish time frame.

    I still have my TLX (closing in on 30K miles). It's going to need tires sometime this year. Outside of that, it's been superlative to drive, maintain, and so far, no warranty work. Pretty cheap to operate, too.

    But, on a whim, I did add a Stinger GT to the fold at the first of the year.






    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 4,509

    It's very simple, My s s check isn't big enough to pay for Medicare Parts A & B, so I have to kick in the rest. I get a federal pension as I was a Civil Service employee. That ridiculous 1984 Windfall Provisions Act basically says sure, you paid in but now, we'll only give you a fraction for your s s payment. Totally ridiculous and unfair, but not going down that road even though it's plain unfair to us retirees! No amount of logic can make this right in any way, shape or form!

    I think when you work for the government you are exempt from social security payroll tax, so that’s why your benefit is less. I seem to remember that because my parents worked on a Navy base as civil servants.
    '14 Buick Encore Convenience
    '17 Chevy Volt Premiere
  • breldbreld Posts: 4,838
    @graphicguy - man, both cars look great!

    Nothing against the "base" TLX, but the A-spec really transforms the look, IMO. Can't beat the red over red!

    And your pics really show off the Stinger nicely too.

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • breldbreld Posts: 4,838
    @JustinS - great looking TL. That gen Type S is a real gem.

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,120
    breld said:

    @graphicguy - man, both cars look great!

    Nothing against the "base" TLX, but the A-spec really transforms the look, IMO. Can't beat the red over red!

    And your pics really show off the Stinger nicely too.

    Thanks! Knowing what’s graced your stable over the last few years, I consider that a complement! ;)
    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • breldbreld Posts: 4,838
    @graphicguy - you may have already done this, but I'm curious...compare and contrast the driving and overall experience between the TLX and Stinger.

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • dad23dad23 ColoradoPosts: 489
    nice find @JustinS! We looked at those shortly after we got married, but someone didn't want to spend that much...ended up with the TSX instead.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,613
    edited February 19
    Congrats, @JustinS ! I had an '05 TL in Abyss Blue, great ride.

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,453
    edited February 19
    The Tahoe has been purged from the fleet. I sent out requests for buy bids via KBB, TrueCar, Vroom, Carvana, Autonation, and maybe one or two more. The local offers were all around $1k below Edmunds trade-in value, which is probably fair considering they're making a blind offer. A couple of them followed up via email or text to say they could probably beat the offer if they could see the car and confirm its condition. I picked the closest dealer (which did not have the highest bid in the first round) and told them I'd head that way. They tried to feel me out for how much I was seeking, but I just said I wanted their best possible offer and that their previous communication implied the first offer I was sent was not it.

    At this point, the Tahoe confirmed that it was time to put it out to pasture by refusing to load any XM stations. The AM/FM, CD, and aux worked fine.

    Met the KBB guy at the dealer, he took the keys to get photos, and he came back and I only had to wait a few minutes before they offered about $900 more, which was within spitting distance of Edmunds trade-in value. We signed the paperwork and I picked up a check this afternoon. A relatively painless, easy process.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 3,074
    My condolences - sorry for your loss, @benjaminh.
    - Ray
    2016 BMW 340i
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 3,074
    Congrats to the punchers & swappers here over the
    past few days!
    - Ray
    Good luck to all !
    2016 BMW 340i
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 14,934

    Didn't feel life turning on the tv, so I ended up watching a video of a guy that bought a car in Florida(Coco Beach) and drove it back to Oklahoma City without a license plate.
    According to him and the police who pulled him over, it's better to drive with no plate than the wrong one.
    Paperwork was ok, so they let him go.

    That may be true. My co worker forgot to put the transport plate on a car I was driving and I drove it on the interstate for 50 miles past numerous troopers without a problem. If there’s nothing to read, the plate reader can’t nail you.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 14,934

    Bad news, got a letter from Social Security. I owe them for the difference between my Medicare and what s s pays me monthly. So, from 10/19 to 12/20, looks like I owe around $660 and some change! I only get $101.45 from s s now which they keep and my Medicare Part A & B is like $144.85, so I owe them the difference. That guy at work was totally wrong and Uncle Sam wants his $ by 10/20...or else!
    Got the letter Friday so winning that $210 comes at a good time, so it'll go towards that bill. Still think it sucks that I can't get 100% of my real s s payment and not the fraction I do get! Why do the repubs like to "f" with blue collar workers income anyways? Really sucks, big time!!!

    Sorry you got nailed by the bureaucracy but I think both parties have had a hand in sticking it to us wage slaves.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 14,934
    benjaminh said:

    sda said:

    As I’ve shared before, my wife is awed with the Q5. It is the subtle details and overall refinement compared to what she’s driven in the past that has really impressed her. She says she’s spoiled now and there’s no going back.

    Nice to hear how much she loves her Audi. Any chance you might get an upgrade?

    Another car I like the looks of is the new Volvo S60....

    Those Volvos have some of the nicest interiors I’ve seen but check out their reliability ratings. Some of the ones that the company bought rolled right off the truck and into the repair shop.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 14,934
    corvette said:

    Didn't feel life turning on the tv, so I ended up watching a video of a guy that bought a car in Florida(Coco Beach) and drove it back to Oklahoma City without a license plate.
    According to him and the police who pulled him over, it's better to drive with no plate than the wrong one.
    Paperwork was ok, so they let him go.

    I think it's basically impossible to get a temporary tag, unless you're a dealer, so that makes it difficult for private party sales.
    I think in some states like NY you actually have to own the car and have the title before you can apply for a temp plate. Makes it tough to buy in another state without waiting a long period of time.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,231
    edited February 19
    After just crossing the six month mark with my S60, I’m still in love.

    It does everything right for me. Super comfortable, great features, and tech. Ride is just soft enough for me and handling is more than adequate. The T6 powertrain coupled with AWD is plenty quick.

    I haven’t had any repairs so far.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 14,934

    It's very simple, My s s check isn't big enough to pay for Medicare Parts A & B, so I have to kick in the rest. I get a federal pension as I was a Civil Service employee. That ridiculous 1984 Windfall Provisions Act basically says sure, you paid in but now, we'll only give you a fraction for your s s payment. Totally ridiculous and unfair, but not going down that road even though it's plain unfair to us retirees! No amount of logic can make this right in any way, shape or form!

    That’s a shame. As a federal employee I would have thought you would get full boat medical in retirement. I know that NY state employees get full retirement medical. I would have gotten at least my Medicare A&B covered by the school district except they had some tricky rules that screwed me after 27 years of employment. Gotta read the fine print I guess.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • breldbreld Posts: 4,838
    tjc78 said:

    After just crossing the six month mark with my S60, I’m still in love.

    It does everything right for me. Super comfortable, great features, and tech. Ride is just soft enough for me and handling is more than adequate. The T6 powertrain coupled with AWD is plenty quick.

    I haven’t had any repairs so far.

    Same with my V90. The T6 is really growing on me actually. Not that I ever disliked it in any way, but its character is very different than the supercharged V6 in the Audi. I'm starting to appreciate it the more I drive it. I'm curious as to how extensive the Polestar tune is, but I sure like the way it behaves in "Dynamic" mode.

    2019 Volvo V90 XC - 2019 MB GLC300 Coupe - 2014 BMW 228i

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 10,231
    edited February 19
    Yes it’s a different animal in Dynamic. I love the way it downshifts and the lower steering assist.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulPosts: 791
    stickguy said:

    don't knock Hyundai until you try it. The new Sonata is seriously stylish too.

    I've had rental experience in the past 2 years with a Sonata, a Sorrento, and a Sportage, and I'm not a fan of Hyundai/Kia driving dynamics. It's like no matter what you're driving, there's enough assist in the steering to turn a Sorrento, even though the smaller ones don't need that much.
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulPosts: 791
    edited February 19
    stickguy said:

    I thought the whole point was fed employees did not pay into SS, which is why you don't get to collect it. And get other pension instead. There are SS offsets to working people too, if you have other income. A bit of a convoluted system, but there are at least reasons for it.

    how long it last though is a mystery now. But people paid into it, it isn't some kind of freebie.

    Feds that started after ~1984 pay into SS. Any fed that is old enough to be on the old retirement system is a fool if they're still working their govt job!
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,556
    fintail said:

    We need more data. More than 1 car, new car (I assume, as this would be a stimulus ideal), domestic car, can we add our own money to make it work?

    Regarding Nissan bailout, I hope that would be a Japanese government thing, but with Nissan having operations in areas maybe sympathetic to the current regime, it could be an American government thing too.




    andres3 said:

    So let's say the government decides to give you $100,000, but the catch is you have to buy a car, and you have to spend it before February ends, and anything you don't spend is given back to the government (in typical gov't agency fashion).

    What are you buying?

    Honestly, was just asking the question for fun and to see what you all liked and would spend free money on.

    I think if it was an actual government program, they would say a hard limit of one vehicle so that they had a greater chance of getting some money back. For sure I don't think they could stop you from spending more in order to "make it work."

    But to be flexible and more fun, sure, get as many old clunkers as you wish with your $100K. Just remember you need space to park them all (and insure them all $$$).

    Domestic not required.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,556

    ". . . if it’s designed properly."

    That's generally the secret, often learned over decades of trial and error.

    Time will tell.

    I've been driving nothing but turbos or superchargers since 2006. Total cost to me if you include a recirculation valve install is less than $425. Over almost 15 years of averaging about 15K miles per year. Add another 10K/year for my wife.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 773
    breld said:

    Nice break from the snow this weekend in Denver - was a nice opportunity to spend time sprucing up the GTI for its new owner tomorrow.





    Glad you snapped a picture of both key fobs 😭
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,556
    nyccarguy said:

    Does this mythical $100,000 cap include all applicable state and local sales taxes?

    You can contribute your own money to get something over $100K if you'd like to. No one is covering your taxes.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 12,560


    That’s a shame. As a federal employee I would have thought you would get full boat medical in retirement. I know that NY state employees get full retirement medical. I would have gotten at least my Medicare A&B covered by the school district except they had some tricky rules that screwed me after 27 years of employment. Gotta read the fine print I guess.

    In a year and a bit I turn 65 and then have to deal with a bunch of changes too. My employment pension drops but that is supposed to be offset by the federal govt pension I am supposed to get starting then. I will remain skeptical until I see it. Worse is that some of my benefit package changes too, particularly prescription drugs. Right now I have good coverage but that ends at 65 and I have to join the public senior's plan at that point which is far more expensive and nowhere near as good in terms of what it covers. Grrr.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,863
    tjc78 said:

    After just crossing the six month mark with my S60, I’m still in love.

    It does everything right for me. Super comfortable, great features, and tech. Ride is just soft enough for me and handling is more than adequate. The T6 powertrain coupled with AWD is plenty quick.

    I haven’t had any repairs so far.

    I'm a little embarrassed to share but at the auto show I sat in what I believed to be an S60 and thought to myself it was way too big. Then I went to the next vehicle over and sat in that and that was much better but I wondered what it was since S60 is their smallest sedan. Here I sat in the S90 first. Oops.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 4,998
    JustinS said:

    Hey everyone. I don't post often but wanted to share my recent purchase. I happened to be browsing Facebook Marketplace last Sunday night and found this 2007 Acura TL Type-S with 123k miles. Drove it the next day, purchased the following day after our local mechanic checked it out. Scooped it up for $5k. The local mechanic didn't find any issues, but did recommend a few service items due to age/mileage (timing belt, drive belt, water pump, etc). I ended up calling an Acura dealer and their price was competitive so had quite a bit of service done. Hoping this car lasts me a few years!


    Congrats! How is the driving experience so far?

    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,806
    edited February 19
    "My employment pension drops but that is supposed to be offset by the federal govt pension I am supposed to get starting then."

    Well, since Canada in general and the drama coach in particular are all about passing out benefits, I wonder if I'm "entitled" to anything based on the decade or so of my employment in Canada. I just ran across my old Social Insurance card the other day -- lots of 2s in it.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,419
    @sandman6472,
    The WEP definitely hurts, but what also matters is the SS is calculated on you top 35 SS earning years.
    Since you didn't start paying in until 1984, there are some zero's in the average, unless you retired last year.
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,556


    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, not all AWD systems are created equal.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 8,109
    edited February 19

    Didn't feel life turning on the tv, so I ended up watching a video of a guy that bought a car in Florida(Coco Beach) and drove it back to Oklahoma City without a license plate.
    According to him and the police who pulled him over, it's better to drive with no plate than the wrong one.
    Paperwork was ok, so they let him go.

    Didn't feel life turning on the tv, so I ended up watching a video of a guy that bought a car in Florida(Coco Beach) and drove it back to Oklahoma City without a license plate.
    According to him and the police who pulled him over, it's better to drive with no plate than the wrong one.
    Paperwork was ok, so they let him go.

    I live in Kansas, but I bought a car in Okla. City a couple of years ago. They put on a 30 day temp. tag. The large date on the tag was the start date, then in small letters down below it said expires 30 days from above date. Don't know who came up with that idea, but within a week back home I had been pulled over twice and advised that my temp tag had expired. I had told my wife I knew it was going to happen when I saw that dumb tag. The cops who pulled me over just assumed the large date, which they could read was the expiration date. I told them I would have assumed the same thing. We had a good laugh, they apologized and agreed the tag was really stupid.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,453
    pensfan83 said:

    tjc78 said:

    After just crossing the six month mark with my S60, I’m still in love.

    It does everything right for me. Super comfortable, great features, and tech. Ride is just soft enough for me and handling is more than adequate. The T6 powertrain coupled with AWD is plenty quick.

    I haven’t had any repairs so far.

    I'm a little embarrassed to share but at the auto show I sat in what I believed to be an S60 and thought to myself it was way too big. Then I went to the next vehicle over and sat in that and that was much better but I wondered what it was since S60 is their smallest sedan. Here I sat in the S90 first. Oops.
    Volvo is definitely doing the “same sausage, different lengths” thing with their lineup.
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