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    sdasda Member Posts: 6,987
    akangl said:

    explorerx4 said:

    @akangel,
    Hopefully everyone is feeling better.
    Have fun shopping.
    Do you have a ballpark figure on what you are going to get for the Jeep?

    Not even close to enjoying car shopping, I just want my Jeep back. No clue what I'll get for it, probably enough to pay it off hopefully, they depreciate so fast and it wasn't paid off. I would have happily kept paying on it, I was completely content with it, it was my forever car, I finally found my happy place.

    That whole situation just bites. I feel for you.

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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,798
    andres3 said:


    On the other hand.. if someone would have RAMmed my Neon at 55 MPH when the transmission was starting to slip at 55,000 miles, I'd have been celebrating and throwing parties.

    However, the flawless '05 Civic that saw the dealer exactly 0 times in 2 years; yeah, a bit sad and frustrating.

    That is always how it works. When it happens the other way around, it's called "Insurance Fraud." :D
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    breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    Congrats on the potential quick resolution! I think it’s a great choice.

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    @akangl
    That’s how you do it! I had a feeling it was going to be a JGC. Once you find the exact one you want, share it with us.

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    suydamsuydam Member Posts: 4,676
    Yes! Pics and details!
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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,437
    @akangl - you’ve got a nice, heathy budget. On your short list, I’d jump on a JGC. See if you can get your hands on one with a HEMI;)

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    akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,281
    nyccarguy said:

    @akangl - you’ve got a nice, heathy budget. On your short list, I’d jump on a JGC. See if you can get your hands on one with a HEMI;)

    Oddly enough I don't want a Hemi, I drove one with a V6 and am plenty happy with the power. I don't feel the need to spent the extra $3k for worse gas mileage!
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    akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,281
    tjc78 said:

    @akangl
    That’s how you do it! I had a feeling it was going to be a JGC. Once you find the exact one you want, share it with us.


    There's exactly zero like what I want so I'll order it next week, dealer said 60-90 days until it will be here. I'm torn between granite and red line, I'm thinking red since I can't get the bright blue like my Cherokee was.
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    cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,506
    There aren't many on here who understand that point of view, but I do. Good luck!
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    JGC handles run-ins with likely inebriated idiots in Ford Escapes, too:



    Good choice, the one I had as a rental for too brief of a period seemed like a really nice rig.
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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,393
    Really glad you’re OK, @akangl! Car did what it was supposed to and took the hit.

    JGC is a great choice. My SIL and her husband have a JGC Summit they bought 3 years ago. Every option except the hemi. It has had a fair share of fit and finish issues, but all repaired under warranty. They tow their boat with it and it does so like a champ. The 6 cylinder doesn’t win any races but is more than adequate and much better fuel economy. Looks nice to boot, too.

    Good luck!
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    akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,281
    28firefighter said:

    Really glad you’re OK, @akangl! Car did what it was supposed to and took the hit.

    JGC is a great choice. My SIL and her husband have a JGC Summit they bought 3 years ago. Every option except the hemi. It has had a fair share of fit and finish issues, but all repaired under warranty. They tow their boat with it and it does so like a champ. The 6 cylinder doesn’t win any races but is more than adequate and much better fuel economy. Looks nice to boot, too.

    Good luck!

    The V6 had plenty of power for what I need. We have our tow beast (2018 Ram 2500 Cummins) so it doesn't have to worry about working, my Cherokee never did, she was just a princess. I'm grateful to my Cherokee for doing what she was supposed to do and I'm equally impressed.
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,674
    fintail said:

    JGC handles run-ins with likely inebriated idiots in Ford Escapes, too:



    Good choice, the one I had as a rental for too brief of a period seemed like a really nice rig.

    As I said before, the Grand Cherokee is a real step up in comfort and luxury. Great for long trips. I’m not big on tech goodies but I imagine you can load it up with a lot of that to.

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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,437
    Who needs a pizza delivery vehicle with a built in oven when you have this AMG powered monster making deliveries?


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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,950
    nyccarguy said:

    Who needs a pizza delivery vehicle with a built in oven when you have this AMG powered monster making deliveries?


    Is it just the angle and reflection, or are the numbers really off on that? That should say GLE43, right? In all the same font?

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,950
    Damn. If this showed up a few months ago .... https://www.japaneseclassics.com/vehicle/1993-mitsubishi-pajero-2800/

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    Still time. Nothing stopping you!

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    graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 13,665
    oldfarmer50 said:

    I guess sometimes you CAN get a good deal bidding at the auction.

    https://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/d/pittsfield-1984-dodge-600-convertible/7171344664.html

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/sarasota-1986-dodge-600-es-leather/7160534995.html

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RepBZVp/1986-dodge-600-coupe

    Why do I NOT remember the Dodge 600? Was it only produced over a short period of time? Obviously a K-Car variant. I just don’t recall them.
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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,437
    qbrozen said:

    nyccarguy said:

    Who needs a pizza delivery vehicle with a built in oven when you have this AMG powered monster making deliveries?


    Is it just the angle and reflection, or are the numbers really off on that? That should say GLE43, right? In all the same font?
    No. The badge was an GLE 63s. I took the pic while I was slowing down, then cropped it this AM before I posted.

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    sdasda Member Posts: 6,987
    edited August 2020
    graphicguy said:

    oldfarmer50 said:

    I guess sometimes you CAN get a good deal bidding at the auction.

    https://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/d/pittsfield-1984-dodge-600-convertible/7171344664.html

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/sarasota-1986-dodge-600-es-leather/7160534995.html

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RepBZVp/1986-dodge-600-coupe

    Why do I NOT remember the Dodge 600? Was it only produced over a short period of time? Obviously a K-Car variant. I just don’t recall them.
    The 86 white 600 is not an ES. The ES was the sport model with lower profile tires, black out trim, etc., typically with leather and the Turbo engine.

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    sdasda Member Posts: 6,987
    edited August 2020
    The Dodge 600 ran from around 1981-86.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,674
    nyccarguy said:

    Who needs a pizza delivery vehicle with a built in oven when you have this AMG powered monster making deliveries?


    No telling what people will do with their cars these days. About an hour ago I was passed by an X5 with heavily cambered “drift” wheels and an exhaust that crackled like a popcorn machine every time he let off on the gas. Of course the driver was stomping on it and then letting off on the gas so all around could share in his wonderfulness.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,674
    graphicguy said:

    oldfarmer50 said:

    I guess sometimes you CAN get a good deal bidding at the auction.

    https://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/d/pittsfield-1984-dodge-600-convertible/7171344664.html

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/sarasota-1986-dodge-600-es-leather/7160534995.html

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RepBZVp/1986-dodge-600-coupe

    Why do I NOT remember the Dodge 600? Was it only produced over a short period of time? Obviously a K-Car variant. I just don’t recall them.
    Me neither. Guess it was the Dodge version of the Labaron maybe.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    The "63" should be in the same font as the rest, with the "S" in kind of a subscript with a darker background.

    I'll blindly guess that delivery rig is the owner.
    qbrozen said:



    Is it just the angle and reflection, or are the numbers really off on that? That should say GLE43, right? In all the same font?

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    The Overland rental I had contained competent ICE - it had Android Auto, CarPlay, factory nav, etc. It was a good road car.

    Fun thing, the car was rebuilt and was up for sale about 6 months after my incident.
    oldfarmer50 said:


    As I said before, the Grand Cherokee is a real step up in comfort and luxury. Great for long trips. I’m not big on tech goodies but I imagine you can load it up with a lot of that to.

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,337
    fintail said:

    The "63" should be in the same font as the rest, with the "S" in kind of a subscript with a darker background.

    I'll blindly guess that delivery rig is the owner.

    qbrozen said:



    Is it just the angle and reflection, or are the numbers really off on that? That should say GLE43, right? In all the same font?

    Nah, it's probably the drivers' parents car, as the Cobalt or equivalent is not running.

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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,798
    akangl said:

    nyccarguy said:

    @akangl - you’ve got a nice, heathy budget. On your short list, I’d jump on a JGC. See if you can get your hands on one with a HEMI;)

    Oddly enough I don't want a Hemi, I drove one with a V6 and am plenty happy with the power. I don't feel the need to spent the extra $3k for worse gas mileage!
    No Trackhawk for you! :disappointed:

    My supervisor has a JGC Trackhawk, and I have an employee with a more "pedestrian" JGC. Neither have had any issues and the owners are quite fond of the rides.
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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,095
    oldfarmer50 said:

    graphicguy said:

    oldfarmer50 said:

    I guess sometimes you CAN get a good deal bidding at the auction.

    https://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/d/pittsfield-1984-dodge-600-convertible/7171344664.html

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/sarasota-1986-dodge-600-es-leather/7160534995.html

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RepBZVp/1986-dodge-600-coupe

    Why do I NOT remember the Dodge 600? Was it only produced over a short period of time? Obviously a K-Car variant. I just don’t recall them.
    Me neither. Guess it was the Dodge version of the Labaron maybe.
    What? You don't remember the Dodge competitor to the M-B E-class? Or at least a competitor in terms of badging...

    image

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    Chrysler had an even better E-Class competitor, an E-Class!

    image

    My uncle had one of these, it was kind of a light yellow with a gold or tan interior, it was fairly plush for what it was. I remember the lucite Pentastar hood ornament.

    Although M-B had "E" designated cars for about a decade prior, I believe the "E-Class" designation wasn't in the formal MB lexicon at the time.
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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,393
    Going to go way higher than I can afford, but the want is strong with this one. And in my backyard.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KmZMB7Xd/2016-volvo-v60-polestar
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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,393
    And for @roadburner:
    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-bmw-m6-54/
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    Cool wagon. But I could never put this white wheels on.. already over $30k so no, not cheap.

    Gorgeous M6 too.

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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,393
    White wheels are just for the winter tires.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    I saw that. Still wouldn’t want them on!

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    corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,267
    Those are some weird looking wheels, the ones for the summer tires look a lot better.
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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,950
    nyccarguy said:

    qbrozen said:

    nyccarguy said:

    Who needs a pizza delivery vehicle with a built in oven when you have this AMG powered monster making deliveries?


    Is it just the angle and reflection, or are the numbers really off on that? That should say GLE43, right? In all the same font?
    No. The badge was an GLE 63s. I took the pic while I was slowing down, then cropped it this AM before I posted.
    I had no idea they even made a GLE 63. Funny how much that still looks like my '07 ML.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    I’m sure you would have to sell something to make space. Likely wouldn’t be the first time.

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,927
    fintail said:

    Chrysler had an even better E-Class competitor, an E-Class!

    image

    My uncle had one of these, it was kind of a light yellow with a gold or tan interior, it was fairly plush for what it was. I remember the lucite Pentastar hood ornament.

    Although M-B had "E" designated cars for about a decade prior, I believe the "E-Class" designation wasn't in the formal MB lexicon at the time.

    I learned to drive on an 83 Chrysler E-Class. Step-dad bought from the proverbial old lady who literally did drive it to church on Sundays. IIRC he got it 1992 with 30K miles on it.

    It was white over blue. Very plush seats, bone chilling AC and the Mitsu 2.6. Oh and wait for it......

    IT TALKED!!!

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,365
    28firefighter said:

    And for @roadburner:
    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-bmw-m6-54/

    It could hit $60k. It looks pretty solid.

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    sdasda Member Posts: 6,987
    tjc78 said:

    fintail said:

    Chrysler had an even better E-Class competitor, an E-Class!

    image

    My uncle had one of these, it was kind of a light yellow with a gold or tan interior, it was fairly plush for what it was. I remember the lucite Pentastar hood ornament.

    Although M-B had "E" designated cars for about a decade prior, I believe the "E-Class" designation wasn't in the formal MB lexicon at the time.

    I learned to drive on an 83 Chrysler E-Class. Step-dad bought from the proverbial old lady who literally did drive it to church on Sundays. IIRC he got it 1992 with 30K miles on it.

    It was white over blue. Very plush seats, bone chilling AC and the Mitsu 2.6. Oh and wait for it......

    IT TALKED!!!
    I test drove a base 85 Dodge 600 ES 4dr, silver, gray interior. It had the 2.2, 5sp, am/fm, a/c. No pw,pl,cc, base wheel covers, though larger lower profile tires. The dealer had it the lot forever and I thought I could get a good deal. One trip around the block and I was not impressed. It didn't talk. I liked my 84 Plymouth Horizon SE better.

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    breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    28firefighter said:

    Going to go way higher than I can afford, but the want is strong with this one. And in my backyard.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KmZMB7Xd/2016-volvo-v60-polestar

    Here's a good comparison for price reference...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/818166973/overview/

    I've never driven a 2017 or 2018 Polestar with the 4 cylinder, but I will vouch for the potency of the 6 cylinder in the 2016 model that my wife had. That really was a beast.

    We traded her wagon almost exactly 2 years ago for her Macan S. Can't remember exactly the mileage when we traded it, but it was probably close to 30k. We received $36k on trade, which was consistent with all the places we were shopping. Again, for reference in case anyone wants to go crazy and bid on this one.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    So much mileage out of the K, gotta hand it to them. I have no memory of what was under the hood of my uncle's car, and I don't recall it talking, but it seemed like a nice enough car to my young eyes.
    tjc78 said:


    I learned to drive on an 83 Chrysler E-Class. Step-dad bought from the proverbial old lady who literally did drive it to church on Sundays. IIRC he got it 1992 with 30K miles on it.

    It was white over blue. Very plush seats, bone chilling AC and the Mitsu 2.6. Oh and wait for it......

    IT TALKED!!!

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    corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,267
    @akangl - what year GC are you getting?
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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    For your Acura and stick lovers out there:

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KVXJZxnz/2005-acura-tl

    It has a good 2,300 miles left in her. I'll give you a $500 warranty. Who wants to go halfers?
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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    andres3 said:

    For your Acura and stick lovers out there:

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KVXJZxnz/2005-acura-tl

    It has a good 2,300 miles left in her. I'll give you a $500 warranty. Who wants to go halfers?

    They also have a low mile Focus RS that's already had the head gaskets replaced (Ford , Quality is job #1).
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,337
    andres3 said:

    For your Acura and stick lovers out there:

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KVXJZxnz/2005-acura-tl

    It has a good 2,300 miles left in her. I'll give you a $500 warranty. Who wants to go halfers?

    Yeah .... no.

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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,393
    Why on earth is a 227k mile Acura TL on Cars and Bids? I don't care the pedigree at this point. I'd be more interested if it had 750k miles...

    If I wanted a high mile Acura TL I'd look on craigslist....
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    best generation of the TL. I did drive a manual when they first came out, and actually thought that car was better suited to the AT. But, it would not say no to one!

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