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Cheers Pat.
That's kind of good, because I am one of those complaining about the bumpers that were on there...which I hypothesized were the Outback bumpers also over on the NASIOC board. Hopefully this is the case, they definately do not do the "flow" of the car justice...like the JDM model's do, who are are awesome right of the bat."
In case you haven't already figured out what chassis they were referring to, it was the bare one (i.e. without body work) not the GT. So no those bigger bumpers are US spec.
This probably also answers sweet_subies question as well. There are the JDM "sleek" bumpers and the ones the U.S. gets which are an extra couple of inches front and back. You should hear the uproar over at NASIOC about the bumpers. OH MY GOD are people not happy with them. I do see the difference and while I prefer the JDM more rounded and sleeker look, I'll be happy to live with these.
-Ian
I also like the feature of the remote gas door opener from inside the car.
The U.S. has different specs for bumpers (crashworthiness, etc), hence the change from the JDM bumpers. I don't follow the nabisco forums, but c'mon, get over the bumpers. The rest of the car is spectacular.
-Brian
Overall sleekness is compromised by this extra think bumpers.
go to subaru global & check JDM legacy sleekness, it is unmatched !!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Frank P.
DaveM
US regs for bumpers are stricter, so they had to be different.
I'll join the minority here - the US spec bumpers look better to me. I like the center split, plus it's body color.
Look at the JDM bumper, it has a cheesy matte black insert around the fog lights. I hate it. Looks like they couldn't paint it to cut costs.
You guys really think that looks better?
Diff'rent strokes....
-juice
Half the websites such as edmunds, motortrend don't even have coverage on legacy
wonder why ?
Those against... move to Europe or Asia
I thought they were very nicely done, given the parimeters they're forced to work with.
-Dave
Its basically a Grand Outback. Just like out Outback its quiet, easy to drive, lots of features and best of all.....I only paid $32842 OTD.
We really like my wifes OB and still have it but we needed more room so I traded my 01 Protege ES 2.0. If Subaru made something bigger I would have considered it. Oh well.
toyota is introducing VDC in the next lexus
Toyota has about 15-20 different packages for the XLE. Its pretty difficult to find exactly what you want.
You insert the key into the trunk lock, turn it in the "wrong" direction and remove the key. The inside lever becomes inoperable. Opening with the key resets it.
Jim
-Frank P.
Our legacy is made in USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The car of the year award in Japan is voted on by journalists if I remember right. I think that bodes well for us.
Craig
Len
Bob
(What do you expect from a guy with a mullet?)
Bob
Bob
And yes, it's definitely home turf for the Big 3, even for Chrysler, which is now German owned. I saw a PT Cruiser custome painted with the US flag, never mind that it's Mexican built and German owned.
nematode: we hear you. I think the AWD is a VC system, too, so it has a lot in common with Subaru. Sienna would be our choice in vans right now, too. If the 7 seater is too small, we may join you.
The mullet will go perfectly with the Aztec. ;-)
-juice
The Forester XT was largely ignored. I saw maybe one major review (C&D), and a few "updates", hardly any full road tests.
Hmm, could the Edmunds Town Hall Test Drive Team help, perhaps? I will bravely volunteer our services to get this model properly evaluated. Note that Bob and paisan are also members.
The three of us (plus other Test Drive member, including varmint and Shiftright) could give a well rounded review:
paisan: focus on torque, with some attention to the torque curve. Plus don't forget torque. Maybe some track time for a serious evaluation of its torque?
Bob: focus on design, with real world towing tests.
me: the family test. Can it handle a toddler and a 4 year old's abuse?
Just a hint, Subaru. ;-)
-juice
And this is my 2 cents get over it guys this is the bumper we are getting,and for all the rest there will be aftermarket no doubt.
Cheers Pat.
This is a shot of my 01 GT.
While it is not identical you can see it is not very far removed either.
Cheers Pat.
I actually contemplated at one time swapping out my 01 for an 03 because I liked it much better, the cost for the bumper skin+foglights+painting came to about$1000CDN so I decided to live with the bumper I have.
Cheers Pat.
-mike
Cheers Pat.
Cheers Pat.
OK, my wife won't let me buy wagon/OB without NAV in it..........i hope sub won't disap me there.
-juice
Bob
-juice
-Ian
It's possible that you have offended two very loyal groups. 8~O
Jim
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat- _code=carnews&content_code=08139813
That first article says GT will be in showrooms in April. Autoweek says it'll go on sale in May, but they still can't spell Forester. So who knows?
"The core values are still in place" says Zapatinas, good. But he says the 7 seater will compete with the Pacifica and MDX.
Well, which one? You can get a Pacifica now for $27 grand. OK, FWD model, but still it's under $30k. MDX can exceed $40k. That's a very wide spread.
It may be out of my price range: "premium-priced, seven-passenger sport wagon in mid-2005". Just 35-40k unit is low volume. Mid $30s to start.
I imagine they'll load up even the base models. I really wish they'd offer a wide range of pricing and equipment. Look at the Sienna, they go from $24k up above $40k. Check out demand for those.
-juice
When is Philly? The Crew should meet up for that.
-juice
Juice- Don't we all? Unfortunately "low volume" and "wide range" are fairly mutually exclusive terms. Besides, if Suabru sold as many vehicles as Toyota, I probably wouldn't be as big fan :-)
-Frank P.