Yes. My home rate in WA is 8 cents per kWh. Our Y is averaging 3.6 miles per kWh. That's $8.00 for every 100 miles of driving. I'll compare that to any Explorer
Well, that definitely helps! I don't recall the exact number on my last bill, but we've been between $0.22 and $0.24 for a couple years now, so I don't expect it has gone down any in recent months.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
@tifighter, I guess my attempt at levity failed. Locally, I never see any electric vehicles on the road in the winter, they are still 3 season vehicles. I want one that is good for all four.
Electric works fine year-round, even in my climate. If they become scarce in your area during the winter, that's just an owner choice versus a lack of ability on the car's part.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
stickers cost next to nothing. Tires were $900. Stick is right, though, I'd likely just throw the stockers back on. $47k is my "all-in" number (not including tires). That's sale price, tax, tags, broker fee, shipping, etc.
I just now saw that Vroom is not taking leases. So I guess I'd have to find an equivalent offer elsewhere. Current reports are that Carmax is offering the best.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I managed to get through the heater install on the Crosstrek yesterday (despite the extreme pain) even though it took me most of the day to finish it. The great news, though, is that it passed testing this morning with flying colors! This setup should be quite effective even on the coldest of days.
Next up, I need to add a heating pad to the oil pan (nothing available locally, so I'm waiting on Amazon) and change out the gear oil. Sadly, I also need to replace the rear struts on the Q7 again, and I'm not looking forward to that at all. I have the parts in hand, but it's quite a difficult job even when my body is fully functional, so I'm stalling on that and hoping that it doesn't get too much colder before I feel much better. This weekend, temps were about -5C (around 20-25F) while I was working on the Subarus.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
I did note multi Tesla superchargers as I drove by, mostly unoccupied, at the rest plazas along I95 in CT. There may have been L2 chargers, too, but I didn't stop.
I did visit Miller Motor Cars (as well as Carriage House), specifically the AM/Bentley dealer. There was a L2 "Bentley" branded charger across from my parking space, I was tempted to plug-in my empty Ray O Vac, but didn't for fear I'd be forced to buy a t-shirt or something for $50!
I do like me some British cars, though.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
stickers cost next to nothing. Tires were $900. Stick is right, though, I'd likely just throw the stockers back on. $47k is my "all-in" number (not including tires). That's sale price, tax, tags, broker fee, shipping, etc.
I just now saw that Vroom is not taking leases. So I guess I'd have to find an equivalent offer elsewhere. Current reports are that Carmax is offering the best.
Oh, I was thinking you bought a new set of wheels with those tires. Yeah, if you got those for only $900, that's not bad at all.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
This should give you all something to snicker about…
Wife and I decided to get out and walk the lots yesterday, as she’s been thinking of alternatives to the Allroad she has on order. She’s having some misgivings as to whether it’ll be worth the cost to her. For a while now, she’s been considering a lightly optioned 330i as a less expensive alternative - not a bad choice I’d say as long as she is okay with a sedan vs wagon.
Not much to look at out there on the lots, as we all know. On the way to one of the spots, I asked her if she misses her recently departed MINI, which I already knew the answer to. Thing is, that whole transaction was to take advantage of the strong value on her JCW and go ahead and accept the Tesla, knowing that would be a smart move.
Well wouldn’t you know it? There was a beautiful used 2021 MINI Hardtop 2 door with all of 1,100 miles on one of the lots that we’re gonna go look at this evening. It’s a “Paddy Hopkirk” edition, which is basically a well-optioned S model in Chili Red, a white top, mirrors and other trim in black. It also comes with the JCW exterior and interior packages.
Somewhere in Acura's promo ads they said the Integra was "coming soon," and to me that would seem to mean a few months? I think the Civic Si is coming in December, and maybe the Integra will be three months after that? In one of the articles on the Integra it said Acura's already been working on it for more than four years, and so it should pretty much be done.
I wonder if you could drive the Maverick for some months, and then sell it to Carvana for the same money you paid for it, or maybe even pocket a small profit? And there might be a chance that you'll like it enough to keep it.
Acura is trying to sell a CPO 2020 under 10K mile TLX basic with the 2.4 motor for over $30K. Is this today's reality?
'21 BMW X3 M40i, '15 Audi S4, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Somewhere in Acura's promo ads they said the Integra was "coming soon," and to me that would seem to mean a few months? I think the Civic Si is coming in December, and maybe the Integra will be three months after that? In one of the articles on the Integra it said Acura's already been working on it for more than four years, and so it should pretty much be done.
I wonder if you could drive the Maverick for some months, and then sell it to Carvana for the same money you paid for it, or maybe even pocket a small profit? And there might be a chance that you'll like it enough to keep it.
Acura is trying to sell a CPO 2020 under 10K mile TLX basic with the 2.4 motor for over $30K. Is this today's reality?
@andres3 said:
Acura is trying to sell a CPO 2020 under 10K mile TLX basic with the 2.4 motor for over $30K. Is this today's reality?
Welcome to the 2021 car market. I’d strongly consider leasing if I were you. Find a dealer that has a nice TLX A-Spec AWD and lease it for 3 years at sticker price without a marked up mf. You’ll have a brand new car that’s under warranty. It is guaranteed to only lose X% of its value over the next 3 years.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Chapman Ford in Philadelphia has been offering for the last four months or so a great deal on Maverick orders—4% below invoice. Seems too good to be true, but apparently they're actually doing this. With all the many orders they've gotten there are a few people, of course, who don't actually take delivery for whatever reason—changed their minds, got another vehicle, financing didn't go through, etc. And so that seems to be Chapman's strategy, to scoop up these Mavericks that aren't claimed and then sell them at a profit. Here's what appears to be maybe one example of this....
I see today that Hertz is buying 100,000 Model 3's. I wonder if they just ordered through them through the website, and used their credit card for the deposit. They could earn a lot of miles that way.
I hope they’re still in business to receive all those cars. Enterprise is killing them on the rental business and customer satisfaction according to J.D. Powers. Personally, I wouldn’t use them after they abandoned two 80 something year old women in front of our booth a few weeks ago and refused to help them with a confirmed rental.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Chapman Ford in Philadelphia has been offering for the last four months or so a great deal on Maverick orders—4% below invoice. Seems too good to be true, but apparently they're actually doing this. With all the many orders they've gotten there are a few people, of course, who don't actually take delivery for whatever reason—changed their minds, got another vehicle, financing didn't go through, etc. And so that seems to be Chapman's strategy, to scoop up these Mavericks that aren't claimed and then sell them at a profit. Here's what appears to be maybe one example of this....
Am I reading that right? A $5k ADM? That must really anger anybody who finds out they could have ordered the same truck for 4% below invoice.
well, if you want to wait 2-4 months, you get something for it. If you gotta have it now, in a sellers market, you need to pay the piper.
not sure how they are pricing. Looking at their inventory, seem to be some at 2K and that one at 5K. But, that is asking. Who knows what happens if you are sitting there with a big old bag of cash, willing to take it on the spot.
As mentioned before, the Hertz CEO is Mark Fields, who when he was the CEO of Ford killed all their looking forward projects. It's almost like he was trying to kill the company.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
@oldfarmer50 - I think that's one of the unfortunate realities of the present market. If you have time to wait a couple months for a factory ordered Ford, you can get a fair discount. Possibly, if you can wait a year for the supply chains to stabilize, you may be able to walk into a dealer and buy one off the lot. But, if you need one right now, you're going to pay through the nose. I'm sure there is some wiggle room in the ADM, but not a tremendous amount, if there is truly no inventory on the lot. As I've said before, the cheapest Toyota dealer on the east coast is now charging over sticker, even on deals done through the broker that sends them a ton of business.
I think I could make it to Seattle on a full charge, even at 75-80 mph I90 cruising speeds (roughly 300 miles depending on destination). However, my mom's place is another ~120 miles from there, so it'd be a chore to drive to her.
I am also not one of the weirdos who will go 10 under, not use AC/heat/radio etc to conserve range.
Not sure I can do better in the market right now than this deal, and it's a car I like. Not a special order, but maybe close to how I would have built it (some options I want are pretty obscure and something to my special order spec probably doesn't exist).
What is the distance to drive from your new location to the Seattle area? Would an electric be viable for that?
I am also not one of the weirdos who will go 10 under, not use AC/heat/radio etc to conserve range.
Same, I don't think I've driven a 100% electric vehicle, but I drive the Prius like a normal car. If it wants to run the gas engine to do that, that's fine by me--I don't make any effort to feather the gas to get it to shut off.
Now the whole fam is fighting me tooth and nail about selling the jeep.
For once, I’d agree with keeping a car. It’s such a cool vehicle that’s not nearly as easy to replace as it was a few months ago. $6k is nothing to sneeze at of course, but not sure that’s worth it.
You guys flatter me - I sort of cheat by getting to count the punches of a wife equally obsessed with car buying.
I doubt I even lead the punch count anyway - this group has been productive in this tough buying year!
Having said all that, the MINI was a really good example of the model, but during and after the test drive, it seems my wife feels she may prefer something that is a better blend of sport and comfort. All in all, she is anxious to get into something that feels more “personal” to her (the Tesla doesn’t cut it for her in that department).
We went on to a BMW dealership and revisited the 330i - she drove a 2019 with low miles and then we started talking of order allocations available, or ones in production and due to the dealer within the next week or two. She seems to be leaning toward a nice Portimao Blue one due in mid-November. I’ll report back.
By the way, the Land Rover dealer with the MINI offered $63k trade on the Model Y - we paid $50,290 for it last month (before taxes).
Acura is trying to sell a CPO 2020 under 10K mile TLX basic with the 2.4 motor for over $30K. Is this today's reality?
By any chance does that 2020 TLX have the Tech package?
Anyway, apparently you can get a new 2021 TLX base model for about $37,500 at this LA-area dealer. 0-60 in about 5.9 seconds according to C&D. There's also conquest rebate of $2500 on top of that until Oct. 31st that includes your dead Audi, and that can be combined with 0.9% for 60 months. Anyway, 35k for the new TLX seems like it might be a better value than 32k (or whatever) for a 2020 CPO TLX of the last generation. The last generation TLX with the 2.4 has a 0-60 of about 7 seconds.
You guys flatter me - I sort of cheat by getting to count the punches of a wife equally obsessed with car buying.
I doubt I even lead the punch count anyway - this group has been productive in this tough buying year!
Having said all that, the MINI was a really good example, but during and after the test drive, it seems my wife feels she may prefer something that is a better blend of sport and comfort. All in all, she is anxious to get into something that feels more “personal” to her (the Tesla doesn’t but it for her in that department).
We went on to a BMW dealership and revisited the 330i - she drove a 2019 with low miles and then we started talking of order allocations available, or ones in production and due to the dealer within the next week or two. She seems to be leaning toward a nice Portimao Blue one due in mid-November. I’ll report back.
By the way, the Land Rover dealer with the MINI offered $63k trade on the Model Y - we paid $50,290 for it last month (before taxes).
You guys flatter me - I sort of cheat by getting to count the punches of a wife equally obsessed with car buying.
I doubt I even lead the punch count anyway - this group has been productive in this tough buying year!
Having said all that, the MINI was a really good example, but during and after the test drive, it seems my wife feels she may prefer something that is a better blend of sport and comfort. All in all, she is anxious to get into something that feels more “personal” to her (the Tesla doesn’t but it for her in that department).
We went on to a BMW dealership and revisited the 330i - she drove a 2019 with low miles and then we started talking of order allocations available, or ones in production and due to the dealer within the next week or two. She seems to be leaning toward a nice Portimao Blue one due in mid-November. I’ll report back.
By the way, the Land Rover dealer with the MINI offered $63k trade on the Model Y - we paid $50,290 for it last month (before taxes).
and you didn't leave it there?
Give it a couple of weeks, it'll be worth close to $70K.
Mrs QB said I should take it, but pointed out my little one will be upset with me. She admitted she should have let me order another. Nothing I didn't already know. haha. She said I could just drive the "mazda" for the winter. Yes, she meant the Escape.
If I sold the Jeep right now I'm pretty sure my little one would need therapy. He sleeps with a mini Wrangler Rubicon diecast next to his bed.
My son had a Power Wheels Wrangler a few years before I bought the TJ; he's always liked Jeeps.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
my new BFF at the Honda dealer called again today with an update on the new Si. I am surprised they are that invested given how low inventories are to get some random guy locked into something coming in. But he said they found out they have 2 allocated for some point (end of the year he suspects). But not color options yet of pricing. So he is calling me back as soon as they get that detail. So I assume at that point I could claim dibs and pick a color on the one regular model (the other one will have the HPD package which I wouldn't pay extra for anyway).
no clue when they will have the pricing but should be fairly soon. I don't know why they don't just release everything at the same time.
You guys flatter me - I sort of cheat by getting to count the punches of a wife equally obsessed with car buying.
I doubt I even lead the punch count anyway - this group has been productive in this tough buying year!
Having said all that, the MINI was a really good example, but during and after the test drive, it seems my wife feels she may prefer something that is a better blend of sport and comfort. All in all, she is anxious to get into something that feels more “personal” to her (the Tesla doesn’t but it for her in that department).
We went on to a BMW dealership and revisited the 330i - she drove a 2019 with low miles and then we started talking of order allocations available, or ones in production and due to the dealer within the next week or two. She seems to be leaning toward a nice Portimao Blue one due in mid-November. I’ll report back.
By the way, the Land Rover dealer with the MINI offered $63k trade on the Model Y - we paid $50,290 for it last month (before taxes).
and you didn't leave it there?
Give it a couple of weeks, it'll be worth close to $70K.
the way shortages seem to be going, just might be true. And I could be buying a Ford in December (assuming they ever actually build it) even if I hate it. Might have to wait a month or so for the paperwork to clear before bringing it to carmax though!
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I just now saw that Vroom is not taking leases. So I guess I'd have to find an equivalent offer elsewhere. Current reports are that Carmax is offering the best.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Next up, I need to add a heating pad to the oil pan (nothing available locally, so I'm waiting on Amazon) and change out the gear oil. Sadly, I also need to replace the rear struts on the Q7 again, and I'm not looking forward to that at all. I have the parts in hand, but it's quite a difficult job even when my body is fully functional, so I'm stalling on that and hoping that it doesn't get too much colder before I feel much better. This weekend, temps were about -5C (around 20-25F) while I was working on the Subarus.
I did visit Miller Motor Cars (as well as Carriage House), specifically the AM/Bentley dealer. There was a L2 "Bentley" branded charger across from my parking space, I was tempted to plug-in my empty Ray O Vac, but didn't for fear I'd be forced to buy a t-shirt or something for $50!
I do like me some British cars, though.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Ground clearance can be an issue when the roads haven't been plowed, although town and state do a pretty good job.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Wife and I decided to get out and walk the lots yesterday, as she’s been thinking of alternatives to the Allroad she has on order. She’s having some misgivings as to whether it’ll be worth the cost to her. For a while now, she’s been considering a lightly optioned 330i as a less expensive alternative - not a bad choice I’d say as long as she is okay with a sedan vs wagon.
Not much to look at out there on the lots, as we all know. On the way to one of the spots, I asked her if she misses her recently departed MINI, which I already knew the answer to. Thing is, that whole transaction was to take advantage of the strong value on her JCW and go ahead and accept the Tesla, knowing that would be a smart move.
Well wouldn’t you know it? There was a beautiful used 2021 MINI Hardtop 2 door with all of 1,100 miles on one of the lots that we’re gonna go look at this evening. It’s a “Paddy Hopkirk” edition, which is basically a well-optioned S model in Chili Red, a white top, mirrors and other trim in black. It also comes with the JCW exterior and interior packages.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
It’s different. It is red!
There is a reason @breld is the GOAT of CCBA!
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You got it all wrong! We want to hear the entire thought process! Details please!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Welcome to the 2021 car market. I’d strongly consider leasing if I were you. Find a dealer that has a nice TLX A-Spec AWD and lease it for 3 years at sticker price without a marked up mf. You’ll have a brand new car that’s under warranty. It is guaranteed to only lose X% of its value over the next 3 years.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
You got it all wrong! We want to hear the entire thought process! Details please!
All he really has to do is cut & paste the contents of the text thread he has going with @jpp75 and me.
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maybe they know something though.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
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not sure how they are pricing. Looking at their inventory, seem to be some at 2K and that one at 5K. But, that is asking. Who knows what happens if you are sitting there with a big old bag of cash, willing to take it on the spot.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I am also not one of the weirdos who will go 10 under, not use AC/heat/radio etc to conserve range.
It’s nice to have a sounding board - especially an enabling one.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
For once, I’d agree with keeping a car. It’s such a cool vehicle that’s not nearly as easy to replace as it was a few months ago. $6k is nothing to sneeze at of course, but not sure that’s worth it.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I doubt I even lead the punch count anyway - this group has been productive in this tough buying year!
Having said all that, the MINI was a really good example of the model, but during and after the test drive, it seems my wife feels she may prefer something that is a better blend of sport and comfort. All in all, she is anxious to get into something that feels more “personal” to her (the Tesla doesn’t cut it for her in that department).
We went on to a BMW dealership and revisited the 330i - she drove a 2019 with low miles and then we started talking of order allocations available, or ones in production and due to the dealer within the next week or two. She seems to be leaning toward a nice Portimao Blue one due in mid-November. I’ll report back.
By the way, the Land Rover dealer with the MINI offered $63k trade on the Model Y - we paid $50,290 for it last month (before taxes).
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Anyway, apparently you can get a new 2021 TLX base model for about $37,500 at this LA-area dealer. 0-60 in about 5.9 seconds according to C&D. There's also conquest rebate of $2500 on top of that until Oct. 31st that includes your dead Audi, and that can be combined with 0.9% for 60 months. Anyway, 35k for the new TLX seems like it might be a better value than 32k (or whatever) for a 2020 CPO TLX of the last generation. The last generation TLX with the 2.4 has a 0-60 of about 7 seconds.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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no clue when they will have the pricing but should be fairly soon. I don't know why they don't just release everything at the same time.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.