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Also had a question. My understanding is residual is a % of MSRP (including destination charge, right?) In this day and age where a dealer is adding a $2000 market premium to MSRP and another $1300 for unwanted accessories..... does the customer end up paying the entire extra $3300 over the course of the lease or just 40% of that amount, if the residual rate is 60%?
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The residual is calculated as you state. Any increase in selling price falls 100% on the buyer, as the residual is fixed. If your price is $3300 higher for the same vehicle, then you'll pay that full amount over the life of the lease.
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.00100 and 62%
The residual is the % of MSRP (bottom line number of the factory window sticker).
The depreciation portion of the payment is the delta between the transaction price and the residual amount.
Example:
MSRP = $30,000
RV = 60%
Residual Amount = $18,000
Transaction Price = $33,300
Depreciation = $15,300, or $425/mo
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Assuming $35K MSRP and $30K adjusted cap cost, the MF hike will add about $25/mo to the pre-tax monthly payment.
BTW, we don't recommend big down payments on leases, for two reasons:
1. It doesn't change the cost of the lease, and
2. Any up front monies would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled during the lease term
We recommend you only pay the first payment and the CA DMV charges at signing.
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Can I get the money factor, residual value, incentives for a 2021 Subaru Forester 36mo/12k in the sport and limited trim in 78626 zip code. This is my first time leasing a vehicle. What’s the word on money down? Should I do it or just put down the bare minimum?
Sport - .00125 and 62%
No money down - only pay the first payment and government fees when signing. Roll the taxes and non-govt fees into the monthly payment.
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Wouldn't be surprised to hear that this is true.
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It's not surprising to find that some banks are no longer allowing this, if they stand to profit. There has never been a "right" for the lessee to trade or sell their leased vehicle to a third party. The problem for the lessee now is: You don't know until you try.
I had the same issue with a Tacoma leased through U.S. Bank, last year. Ended up having to turn it back in.
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Can you provide the mf, residual, and incentives?
Models: 2021 Crosstrek Sport and Limited
Term: 36/12k
Zip: 07601
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Sport - .00125 and 62%
No incentives
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I was just quoted $40,000 out the door in NYC for a base limited, that I would have to order and wait 4-5 months on delivery. This is over 21% over MSRP. Wild! I know the market is up but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Any insight would be super appreciated.
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MF and RV for 11228
2021 Forester touring
36/12
THANKS!!
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36Mo,10k
Sport - .00125 and 63%
No lease incentives
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First of many thanks for keeping this forum alive. this will be my fourth lease and i dont think i would have done it without you help. my current one is coming to an end in few months and with less mileage dealer is providing a new lease. I currently pay $365 ($2000 down) for my 2019 subaru forester sport with 23k miles on it. Lease was for 42 months ending in May 2022 and was for 42K miles. new one is offered for $262/ month. I have asked for the trade in value used. MF and RF used. I am sure dealer has some padded.
Could you let me know whats the MF and RV for Limited Forester/Forester sports/Outback Limited
2022. Zip code is 21043. probably will do 36/12
Forester Sport - .00170 and 65%
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Thanks Michaell. My current 2019 Subaru forester sport has 23k miles on it. my buy back amount is $21k in May.I still have 4 payments of $365 until I run out of the lease. I was at the dealership and the offer is too irresistible. dealer is trading at 28K and giving me a limited for $247/month with 2k down. I asked MF and RF. 64% and 0.00210(not sure why this is more). MSRP used in $35828. Should I negotiate more? Appreciate if u could please help as currently lot of dealer are adding a mark up for market conditions right so not sure.
$7K of equity is roughly $210/mo over 36 months - making your effective payment $457/mo.
I'd reach out to multiple dealers to see if you can beat this offer.
And, we don't recommend large down payments or using equity to make the payment smaller - it doesn't change the overall cost of the lease, and you'd lose that up front cash if the car was stolen or totaled during the lease.
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it looks like then the whole thing is a bogus one. If my equity is $200/month, my monthly for a new one $247 is still high right?
Right now I pay $365/month for a sport. if it would have been limited say $400 and with the trade in I should see something around $200 if its even worth a deal to look at.
MF has been marked up at 0.00210. Do u think MSRP is high? I think net price out of the door would be close 38K when we include all the taxes etc.
Ask the dealer for a screen shot of their lease worksheet - that way, we aren't guessing at the numbers.
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I tried using the edmunds lease calculator and assuming the numbers dont change much I see my monthly lease is at $260. not sure if I am missing anything. MSRP is around $35700 which is what I see most of them have paid. I am waiting for the dealer to give me a quote and will be sure to come back. I wanted to get an idea as i forgot most of it from the last time. thank you again for taking the time to help here.
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Equivalent payment is about $525/mo.
You have a car with just 23K miles on it, that is obviously worth $7900 more than the buyout price. Why not purchase it with a five year loan for $400/mo.? Keep it for three years, and come out way ahead.
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If the new car is stolen or totaled during the lease, that cash & equity is gone.
I like my co-hosts suggestion - buy out your current lease and hang on to it.
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2021 Sport 4dr SUV AWD (2.5L 4cyl CVT)
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Zip Code: 98134 (Seattle, WA)
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