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That is unique, though. Look how short the bed is. You can carry cargo inside and outside.
Just got back from Brazil and 3 of the top 14 selling vehicles are sub-compact pickups. They are 2 seaters, basically, based on regular FWD cars about the size of a Fiesta (B segment). 500 kg payload, so 1100 lbs. Not bad.
Keep in mind they are CHEAP! You could buy three (!) VW Saveiros for less than 1/3rd the cost of a VW Amarok mid-size pickup.
...and that's why they sell.
kcram - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Host
Bob
Brazil is getting a lot of vehicles made in Mexico now, so who knows?
The Chevy Montana is similar, but it has a neat step just in front of the rear wheel arch. It's a neat design feature I'm sure Bob would appreciate.
That Fiat in the photo is the double cab, believe it or not. There is a smaller extended cab, and a tinier regular cab. 3 cab sizes! Wild...
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=38013317&postcount=1
Bob
Not that I'm asking for too much....
Top half looks like an Outback and the bottom half like an Impreza. Strong family resemblance.
Mostly they had to not mess it up and looks like they succeeded.
Agreed. I could do without the bulbous headlights (also a trait shared with the new Impreza and current-gen L/O), but that just seems to be in vogue these days. Big rims and buggy headlights are all the rage. :sick:
If they put the Impreza interior in the thing, I'll be sad. The current-gen styling of the dash and instrument cluster is downright gorgeous compared to the blocky, bland mess in the Impreza.
Impreza's dash is soft to the touch, at least. Let's see. Usually they are very similar, with only subtle differences in colors or textures. Plus the pillars and roof of course.
I care more about how it looks (and functions), because I spend hundreds (if not thousands) of hours inside my cars.
I just want padded elbow rests, and our 09 Forester has them, at least the outboard ones.
While the overall design of the panel in the Fiesta is not as good, I do like the padded leather elbow rests. I give those a big thumbs up.
Bob
Hey, you spend a lot of time in the car, you don't want your elbows resting on a hard plastic surface.
My first vehicle was my 1969 Ford Econoline, which has a pair of comfy captain's chairs, each with two fold-down arm rests that have a steel core surrounded by copious amounts of foam and a soft vinyl cover. After driving that vehicle (almost exclusively) for three years (1995-1997), including three trips between Oregon and Alaska, I came to highly regard my arm rests.
I'm thinking about actually removing the OEM arm rests and adding padding permanently, with a black fabric wrap to make it look stock.
I cannot motivate myself to make those sorts of adjustments. I have too many other projects on standby that are more pressing. :sick:
Tires are slightly larger than outgoing model. Non-turbo models get 225/60x17 (same size as Outback), and XT models get 225/55x18 tires.
Bob
Bob
Unless we get gas discharge headlights that require them....along with self leveling to prevent blinding other drivers.
I wonder if that might also suggest the possibility of using standard grade for lower output?
Sounds good to me!
It suggests to me that there is a possibility that the Turbo can do better mpg, should one practice mild driving. I would think that the 2.0 could get better highway mpg...
I'm leaning towards that engine, personally, even with a 2mpg or so expected penalty.
Though now that I think about it, I'm not sure what type of fuel they used.
Do we know the compression ratio on the new 2.0T? Direct Injection can be used to cool the intake charge, and allows higher compression, even sand turbos.
OT - Long Beach Island now has ~6 blocks of beach front property. :sick:
I visited Long Beach Island once and had a great week there with friends, stayed at a place their parents rent. Must've been right about 6 blocks from the beach so now beach front property. :sick:
I'm curious to see how it drives compared to the current gen. If it has an "new suspension," I'm hoping it returns to the gen 2 driving characteristics, or at least closer to that! Finally, I know it is unreasonable to hope the six-speed manual is offered in the 2.0L, but that would sure be sweet.
It's a shame for an engine like that to not be offered in a performance-oriented trim.
I've driven several new Subies ('13 Impreza, '13 Crosstrek and '13 Outback) with the new Gen 2 CVT, and have been quite impressed with it. When in manual mode (6 steps), the paddle shifters work great. The shifts are quick, precise and smooth. Yeah, I know having fake gears seems strange, but it does work.
Bob
Bob
Also, the SOA site has a teaser with some additional info: 32 mpg (up 5 mpg from the current car). I'm sure that's the FB25 w/CVT. It will also have an available power rear gate.
http://www.subaru.com/auto-show/la-2012.html
Bob
Bob
Bob, I never learned to drive with a manual trans? I would like to use the paddle shifters - can you damage the transmission if you don't shift properly with the paddles? I can't tell if I'm doing it correctly or not.
I drive an Outback now. Gas prices forced me to move out of the Tribeca.
The side profile of the new Forester looks very much like the current Tribeca.
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I hope I linked this properly.
Charlie
Yes, we survived Sandy. Now gearing up for a possible nor'easter this coming week. Good to see you back!
Bob