Subaru Crew - Modifications II

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I definitely worked up a sweat! Luckily the pool is open until 9pm, so I took a nice dip before calling it a night.

    I gotta sew on that leather steering wheel cover next. That's another time consuming job.

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Long time no see. I've been a little scarce too.

    It seems like only yesterday but it's been a year and my Amsoil filter is due for a cleaning. How did you clean yours? How long did it take to dry out from the water/detergent wash before you could oil it and reinstall in the car? Overnight?

    Thanks,
    Ed
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Ed, I let my Amsoil dry out for 4-5 hours and that seems to suffice.
    Just don't over oil it.

    -Dennis
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    They come over-oiled; I had to squeeze extra oil out of mine when I received it. Forgot you had one too; I just remembered that Ken put one in his Forester.

    Thanks,
    Ed
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Ed,

    Yeah, I've been travelling a lot over the last month and have barely been able to keep up reading the posts, let alone respond to them.

    Here's what I do:

    Cleaning the filter:
    - Fill a bucket with warm water, add dish detergent
    - Dunk filter in bucket and thoroughly work the solution through. The filter is quite durable so I squeeze quite a bit.
    - Rinse thoroughly and pat dry with paper towels or newspaper
    - Allow to air dry completely. Usually leaving it out in the direct sun for 3-4 hours seems to be enough.

    Re-oiling:
    - Pre-warm the bottle of the filter oil in a warm water bath. This step will make the oil less viscous and easier to apply.
    - Put your now bone-dry filter into a plastic shopping bag
    - Drizzle oil (conservatively) on one side of the filter, close up the bag and squeeze filter to work the oil through
    - Flip filter and repeat
    - Blot any excess off the surface, install and you're ready to go

    I've learned to oil very conservatively. The filter comes overoiled from the factory and left a small pool of oil at the bottom of my air chamber.

    Have fun,

    Ken
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    I clean my Amsoil the same way you do, but haven't seen those re-oiling tips.

    -Dennis
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    I'll do it Friday night or Saturday morning.

    Ed
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    I've used a small sandwich bag on all sorts of foam air filters since I was very young. Shopping bag would probably work fine too, perhaps a bit thin.

    Good tips, Ken.

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The new oil isn't in a spray can? That's how K&N filters come. Had one of those in my previous car.

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Amsoil's isn't in an aerosol can. It's just a bottle.

    -Dennis
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Interesting. What color is the stuff, out of curiosity? K&N's was red.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    They put a die in there so that you know what part you have covered with the spray. I love mine in the Troopa it has saved me from dunking the engine on a few occassions.

    -mike
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Looks similar to motor oil. Amsoil doesn't use a die/dye. :-)

    -Dennis
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    My Amsoil filter recharging oil is a purplish/red color. It's very tacky when it's cold hence my warming it in a water bath before application.

    Ken
  • roflickroflick Member Posts: 14
    I drive on mountain roads every day and am very unhappy with the sloppy handling. Does anyone have advice on tightening up the handling? New struts seem to be the least expensive way to solve this problem. Any recommendations on struts? I'd appreciate any help.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Try a larger rear sway bar first because they are cheap and can help quite a bit.

    If still unsatisfied, try KYB AGX struts. On their lowest settings they will be like stock and can be adjusted firmer from there. The stiffest settings (4-way front, 8-way rear) are too stiff for the stock springs, so there is more than sufficient adjustment. You could also get stiffer springs, but since you have an OB everything is going to be really, really lowered since it's built for Legacys and Imprezas.

    -Colin
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Get yourself some legacy GT struts and springs. It will lower your car a little but it should tighten things up for sure.

    -mike
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    Got the car back at about 7pm this evening. It had been at the "shop" since 1pm. It took them 5 hrs for the uppipe install. They first had to get 3 seized bolts out of the three different areas; turbo to uppipe, uppipe to downpipe, and downpipe to midpipe. It took them about an hour for the unichip install. They also gave me a 20% discount for being an i-club member and put my front strut bar (including relocating an a/c bracket that the bar had been rubbing against) back for no charge. The entire install w/tax was $329 (6 hrs @ $63 and the 20% discount). Based on my own experience w/the PITA uppipe, it was $ well-spent!

    I drove the car home and only got a bit of freeway driving (heavy traffic unfortunately). I notice that the powerband is much stronger throughout and not nearly the turbo lag as before. It seems as if 5th gear is almost as strong as 4th and 4th almost as stong as 3rd. I still need to get the manual boost control and turbo gauge installed. I will have more impressions tomorrow after I drive around some. Just wanted to update interested parties.

    Stephen
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Member Posts: 1,391
    Bilstein struts also.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Rosendo: I 2nd all the suggestions above, and I'll add yet another - tires. The Outback has the tallest sidewalls of any Subie. The 225/60 gives you a 5.3" sidewall to flex and numb that steering.

    Consider a Plus Zero, maybe a 235/55 tire, or even 225/55. The diameter should be close enough, you'll actually gain a little gearing. And if you are due for new tires, you have to spend the money anyway, so it's the cheapest alternative.

    Stephen: well worth the money given all the difficulties you descrived earlier. Why wasn't everything installed at the same time? Did they just run out of time that day?

    Very curious to hear more about it.

    -juice
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    I forgot to bring my turbo gauge w/me for installation. Since, I didn't have the gauge I decided to wait and get the MBC installed at the same time. On another note, I also have Goodrich SS brake lines to pick up. I have about 50% left on my pads. These two things will be my next upgrade.

    Well, I'm off to the gym and then some driving time. Temp should be in the low 80's today...whoo weee...life's good and so it is!! :-)

    Stephen
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Where does one pick these gems up? I want to get them for the XT6 since its legal in stock class cars.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You might even want to do the pads while you at it (installing the brake lines).

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Stephen,

    Very nice. Keep us updated on the before and after comparisons.

    BTW, doesn't the Stage 0 also come with colder plugs?

    Ken
  • heatherbeanheatherbean Member Posts: 82
    Sloppy handling- I whole heartedly agree! I could not live with the 2001 Outback, so I traded it in for a 2002 GT. I know I lost a lot of money, but the handling is night and day difference. Some people need a good handling car and I am one of them! I smile now on a daily basis whereas before with the Outback my heart was in my tummy all the time. My husband has a 2002 L.L. Bean and is now sad about the handling of it compared to the GT! He is going to add a larger rear sway bar from http://cobbtuning.com/legacy/ as soon as they get some in. Everyone says the Cusco bar there is much better then the Whiteline bars since they tend to squeak. It is hard to find parts for Legacy's. I've been waiting for the ARB for sometime now.

    The GT handles very well and needs very little in mods. I will try the Cusco Anti-roll bar, but the sway and body roll is minimal in the GT wagon and does not need a thing. It just sounds fun to try!

    Heather
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I've driven outbacks and they are anything but sloppy and I race! Guess I'm just not as picky.

    -mike
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    Mike: You can get the SS Goodrich lines at www.vividracing.com and (I think) Tirerack. There are more places but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

    Ken: Yes, the Vishnu Stage 0 comes w/colder NGK plugs, ligher pulley (quite a bit lighter, I felt it compared to the stock one in my hand!), new belts, MBC, uppipe, & unichip. I also had them include new gaskets instead of reusing the stock ones.

    Stephen
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The Outback has a lot more wheel travel, it's intended to be that way. The sidewalls are also taller, plus it's a little higher up, so it's not really fair to compare it directly to the GT. The GT will win on the track, but the Outback is better suited for light off roading.

    OK, time for some more goodies for the wife's car. I need your help/opinions:

    1) window tint. I had luck with SolarGard dyed film and my installer, should I get the same again or spring for 3M metallic?

    2) CD player or changer. She wants to keep the cassette deck because she has tapes for our kiddo, but also wants CDs. It's $250 or so for the OE single CD add-on, which I find pricey. Should I swap the whole unit, get the OE add-on, or add a CD changer?

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    It may be hard to find an aftermarket CD player that includes a tape deck. I'd get one of those changers that runs through the radio or something? or look for an OE one on ebay or something.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I was thinking about that. I'll probably get a local stereo shop to install it, though. Some times they offer "free installation" deals.

    You think I should put the CD changer under the passenger seat, or what?

    -juice
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    seems like 90% of the cost is labor, so I would always go for the highest quality tint available. I am going to do my car soon and will follow this theory.

    Jim

    P.S. $250 really doesn't seem that bad to me for the stand alone OEM CD player when you factor in absolute plug and play and fit/finish.
  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 Member Posts: 1,089
    there are a few Subie 6 cd changers on both ebay and the i-club going for around $150...

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A39425D01


     

    As for tinting, we will be doing that shortly on both cars; most likely with 3M mettalic; it's got a very good reputation

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Wow, $50 (so far) for the OE CD player. I'm bidding. Thanks a lot!

    -juice
  • kate5000kate5000 Member Posts: 1,271
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Heck, I got excited and now I'm going crazy. I bid on that CD changer too. Sandy will be pleased if I get both. :-)

    -juice
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    bidding on the WRX 6 disc in-dash CD/tape unit, but I kept getting conflicting "opinions" on whether it was plug and play into my 1994 Legacy. I believe the double DIN hole is right, but the harnesses are where I ran into trouble. Anybody know?

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The harness is different IIRC Jimmy. I know you can't put an RS stereo into a pre-96 or 95 impreza.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Argh, not a bidding war. Um, yeah, it doesn't fit, that's the ticket! ;-)

    I'd actually be happy to win either one, as long as I don't lose both.

    Tell you what, though, if I do get both and for whatever reason can't (or don't) use either one, I'll offer them to you at my cost.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    juice,

    I'd say spring for the metallic tint this time. You already have dyed film so make the experience complete. I feel that there are enough noticable differences between the two (especially with night driving) that would make getting the metallic worthwhile.

    As for the CD player, my question is how important is the need to play tapes? If you MUST play tapes, but want to listen to an occasional CD, the cheapest but least convenient way is to simply buy a portable CD player (with car adapter) and one of those audio jack-to-cassette adapters.

    I personally would go for a CD changer. We put in a single in-dash CD player on my wife's Jetta and the need to keep changing CD's drives me nuts. I like being able to skip to the next CD at the flick of a button.

    Other things to consider:
    - If you have a CD-burner and a sound card, you can easily convert your tapes to CD. There's quite a bit of SW out there that lets you do this (ie. Adaptec CD Creator).
    - For getting the most music from a CD, consider getting a CD/MP3 player. With a standard audio CD, you'll typically get 15 songs, max. With MP3 files, you can cram up to 150 songs (depending on your sampling rate) on one CD. It can potentially displace the need for a CD-changer if you don't mind ripping CDs. I recently purchased a portable Sony CD/MP3 player to take with me on my business trips. It's great since I only need to take 1-2 discs to keep me entertained, plus the battery consumption is great.

    Ken
  • gened1gened1 Member Posts: 256
    Hi,
    I posted this on the Forester forum and Juice said maybe someone would be able to clue me in here so here goes.
    I have a 2002 Forester with the cassette (and no cd) radio. I did not get the tweeters. My question is ... if I update to a component system for the front speakers and add the tweeters will I find that there are already crossovers in my car and all I would have to add are the tweeters (and either live with the factory speakers or add new front speakers), or am I going to have to buy new 61/2" front speakers, tweeters AND crossovers (either separately or as a bundled unit)
    I seem to remember someone awhile ago ) saying that the wiring was already in place to just add tweeters but did not say anything about needing crossovers.
    Any help would be appreciated.
    Gene
  • kate5000kate5000 Member Posts: 1,271
    When I got my Forester with 6-disc CD changer, I thought it's just an unneccessary luxury. I cannot live w/o it now! Really, having to change CDs manually (gasp) will drive me nuts.

    As for tapes, I do prefer CDs, but most books on tape are still, well, on tape (especially library ones), so I have to have tape deck as well.
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Gene,

    I believe Subaru pre-wires our cars with "cheap" crossovers. The tweeters need to only be plugged in.

    One thing to keep in mind is that the factory tweeter is fairly small and you'll probably run into size issues with aftermarket ones.

    Component speakers are nice, but IMO, the Forester isn't the best place to enjoy ultra-high-end audio. Wagons usually make proper speaker placement a little challenging due to more open space and a lack of a rear deck.

    Ken
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Gene,

    If you buy a component system then it should either come with its own crossover network that you will want to use, or you should build one for it if you're "piecing together" your own component system from parts (like www.madisound.com).

    I would assume there is some sort of crossover on the stock wiring for the optional tweeters but I wouldn't trust it for any replacement.

    -Colin
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Are the before/after pics of your dents on your website? What's the URL? There's a guy in my area (i-clubber) with a fender dent and I wanted show him the pics.

    Thanks,
    Dennis
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Thanks for the info, Ken. I do have a CD Burner and all that stuff, but I think Elmo on tape is about as much as I can withstand! ;-)

    She definitely wants both, so I bid on a couple of items up on eBay, we'll see. One's an add-on single CD, another a full stereo with the in-dash 6CD. If I get both, Sandy will be mighty happy, as will I.

    Ideally I'd put the 6CD changer in her car, the add-on CD in mine.

    -juice
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    juice-
    tempting to say go with the metalic, but wouldn't it look clashy (clashing) against wintergreen?

    As for CD, keep an eye on the i-Club. You could find a WRX OEM in-dash 6 CD/Tuner/Tape for ~$180.

    -Dave
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    I 'll attempt to swap the WRX in-dash 6 CD/Tuner/Tape onto my '98 OB and I need lots of help :D cause I'm capable of screwing up.
    And if I survive, I'll put the '98 OB single CD/Tuner/Tape onto the '99 OBS.

    TIA

    -Dave
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    Dents:

    image

    Dents gone courtesy of DentWizard:

    image


    Stephen :-)

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    $180? Sounds good. I bid a little higher, we'll see if it sticks. It closes Sunday night. If not I'll shop i Club next week.

    Dave: please take photos! I can screw up too, so I'm sure we can help each other.

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
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