Zaino Car Care Experiences

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  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    #574
    Not only are the Z products good on paint, plastic, glass, rubber seals etc but you don't have to buy a lot more corresponding products.

    I think I have run across the following in two or three articles, books or tip type magazines.

    The horizontal painted surfaces wear or fade 2-5 x as fast as the vertical painted surfaces (you can adjust cycles accordingly) rubber seals and plastic wear correspondingly 3-7 times faster than paint.

    So really, if you plan to keep your car for longer durations, you should attack the plastic and rubber seals on more frequent cycles than the painted surfaces.
  • jgriffjgriff Member Posts: 362
    It just keeps getting better. In case you forgot me, I did my 1st full blown Z treatment over Labor day w/e.

    Now if I could just keep all the dust from blowing around here. It been a goog 2 months since any rain-fall.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    great pics! The car looks "dipped in plastic". Also nice neighborhood - what part of the country are you in? Just curious. Here in L.A. few people can afford lots that big!
  • ilambertilambert Member Posts: 3
    you all convinced me to give zaino a try so i thought i'd share the results of all your great advice. I literally cut and paste a bunch of your zaino tips going back to the first discussion board to make my own instruction sheet. I could almost here all of you cheering me on! Alright..i'm gettin a little forklempt...tawk amongst yourselves...i'll give you a topic...my beautful GS 300 with 3 coats of zaino to go and counting =)

    http://photos.yahoo.com/irlambert

    The firebird in my album is my fiancee's. We just started him on zaino, he's only got one coat on so far. We've got a lonnng way to go on his car. He thought I was crazy at first...and now he's already talking like a true zainoite!

    Just a side note....we even zainoed his motorcycle!!
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,140
    Thanks!

    I've got 2 coats of Z5 and one coat of Z2 on my car. Like fastdriver, I've been using Zaino for almost 2 years on my "other" vehicles. There were some very minor swirls (mostly on the spoiler) that my well intentioned dealer put on the car when they put it through their "automatic car wash" when I had it in for service a few months ago. Z5 took care of it well. As mentioned, I plan on putting another coat of Z1/Z2 for the car's winter preparation in the next couple of weeks. It helps that it's garaged at night, too.

    I live in the south western part of Ohio. We live on a cul-de-sac. The lots are all 3/4 of an acre...as you can see, we have woods in the back (and all sorts of creatures that come from those woods in our yard). It's not unusual to see deer or racoons in our back yard sorting through our garbage looking for food in the Spring. I spec'd the house out about 7 years ago and acted as the "general contractor". I had never done anything like that before. My wife and I learned a lot from the experience and figured we saved about $40K-$50K by acting as our own general contractor. It sure was a bear when it was being built though, dealing with sub-contractors that sometimes had less than honest intentions.

    We love the neighborhood and schools for our two teenagers and would act as our own general contractor again in a heartbeat.

    I'm in the computer industry and actually looked into moving to the Bay Area in CA about 4 years ago. WOW!....realestate in San Francisco and LA were unbelieveable (compared to the midwest). Land and houses that compare to ours was about 4X-5X what mine was built for. I figured that it would have cost us about $1M to replicate what we have now in either the Bay Area or LA. Of course, your real estate appreciates at a much higher rate than ours does, too.

    Consequently, since I'm in the industry that I'm in, I spend a lot of time in planes, commuting back and forth to San Jose (about once/month). I agreed to spend more time on planes so as not to have to move to the Bay Area. I'll probably end up there within the next 4 years or so as soon as my kids are in college (and out of the house).
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    ilambert - Great job on the GS300 - the metallic cinnabar really glows with the Zaino. I'm glad we convinced you!

    A Hint for all taking photos of their cars - It is best NOT to shoot in direct sunlight - the contrast is just too much for cameras, and a lot of detail is lost. It is BEST to shoot in open shade, or JUST when the sun goes out of sight so there is no direct sunlight. Then you will get great pics. You will notice there is no sun in car ad pics - they are usually shot just before dawn!

    graphic guy - thanks for the info on your beautiful location. I would need to spend about 1.5M to get the huge lot, nice house and the woods. Livin' in L.A. has its rewards, but a nice, affordable mini-estate is not one of them!

    Prices in the Bay area and SJO are totally out of sight as all the dot-com millionaires don't care how much a place costs - they just buy it! The AVERAGE home price in Atherton, outside of SFO is $1.5M. Save up your money!
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Again I just got back from another little business trip. And again another load of interesting posts. Great pictures! Now I fell terrible as I haven't even had a chance to wash my car in about 4 weeks.

    Bumpers: Yep, like the man said, paint is paint. All these new plastic type bumpers can be Z'd.

    Clay: I've tried a few brands and liked Erazer's the best 'till Sal upped the bar. That's to say that Zaino's Clay Bar is just a bit better than the rest. That's because its firm but still easy to work. Some clays are just too soft and they smear on the paint easily. And others are just too stiff and are hard to fold over as you work with them. As the clay picks up dirt, you have to fold that portion of the clay bar to 'hide' the dirt. This prevents the picked up dirt from scratching the paint surface. Think of these clay bars as dirt "collectors". The Zaino Clay Bar product 'feels' good and will also easily conform to the car's surface curves and you glide it along the paint.

    Graphicguy: Talk about the cost of housing, try living in Manhattan (NYC). Your 'small' estate in Ohio sounds ideal! I basically have to drive up the the Bershires (I have family up there) in order to work on my car. And I pay through the nose for this privilege. Some day.....! By the way, what aspect of the computer business are you in?
  • silvercoupesilvercoupe Member Posts: 326
    OK guys/gals, tell me what are the minimum Zaino products that I can start out with on a silver 2000 Accord Coupe. Budget is limited and I don't want to have to rob my son's piggy bank.

    BTW, I live in Alabama. Guess it's really cheap to live here vs some parts of the country. I have a 1500 sq. ft. house with 2 car garage on 1 acre that I purchased new in 1991 for $81K. Of course, the pay at most jobs here is comparatively low. Guess it all evens out in the long run.
  • pjyoungpjyoung Member Posts: 885
    Z1,Z2 and Z7 for an absolute minimum. I am totally sold on the Z7 wash. A smallish bottle has lasted me since last December, and my car is usually washed regularly. SOme may recommend the Z6 as well. I didn't get it, but might try it.

    The Z2 should last quite a while also. I Z'd my 99 300M yesterday and there was only about 1/4 inch left in the Z2 bottle. I still have some left, so a little goes a looong way.
  • ilambertilambert Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the picture taking advice auto...i'll try it. Now I have an excuse to take more pics! =)
  • ilambertilambert Member Posts: 3
    clay: I've heard people say that one bar of clay can be used up to three times. How in the world do you make the stuff last?!! It liquified halfway through my car on the first use. I had to buy some mother's clay to finish the car. I used a capful of Z7 diluted in about 1.5 cups of water as a lube. I lubed the surface alot but i don't see how it could totally liquify the clay like that. Anyone else had this experience. Can I reclay after having applied Z5/Z2 or will it strip off the layers? What's the best way to use the clay to ensure that it won't liquify on me again.

    Z7: How much should I use per wash. I've been using 3 capfuls per half bucket of water. Is that the right amount or can I get away with using less.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Some clays seem to dissolve when used with water, and usually come with a lube spray. Did yours?

    I use about 2 capfuls to about 3/4 of a bucket. If it still foams when squirting the water in, I feel it is OK.

    Looking forward to the new pics! If you haven't seen them, some of mine are at: http://www.geocities.com/newwestd/Zainoat3mo.html
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,140
    My next order for clay (next spring) I'll get Zaino clay. I've used clay magic which is pretty stiff, but gets the job done. I've also used Meguiar's clay...this stuff wasn't very good as it did leave white smears and tended to break down more than clay magic. Never used "erazer", but have heard it's good. I've been very pleased with all of Sal's products and will move to use his entire line after all my clay and tire dressing are used up. The only non-Zaino products I've used over the past couple of years is Meguiars Endurance Tire Gel and clay (it wasn't out yet when I place my last Zaino order). It does a decent job but is very "gloppy" to apply and difficult to put on evenly. It does last a while, though and gives a "satin" finish to the tires. I'll switch to Zaino tire dressing.

    pblevine--this is boring, but since you asked...I've been in the computer graphics hardware/software arena for quite some time. I started out as a Technical Support guy (back more years than I care to remember) helping customers with software glitches on-site (installation, harware configuration, etc.), went out and became a Systems Engineer (doing CAD, Visual Simulation/Animation software demos for sales guys). I'm currently in marketing, travelling around to help define product uses for hardware/software and talking to market analysts and trade pubs about the products. I started out doing this with "big" companies in their respective field. About 10 years ago, I started being recruited by "start-ups". Since the field is so "hot" (way too much VC money floating around Silicon Valley looking for "the next big thing") I could always negotiate employment terms stipulating that I stay in the Midwest. The upside to this is that I get paid like I'm in Silicon Valley while enjoying the cost of living in the Midwest. The down side is that I spend a lot of time away from home (either on the road doing my "marketing thing" or in the Bay Area). I love startups (high risk/high reward...I've had my share of both successes and failures with start-ups). I don't think that I could ever go back to a "big" company.

    As I travel around, I'm always amazed at what real estate goes for on either coast. I've come to the conclusion that if you aren't close to the ocean or high up in a mountain, you can find some pretty affordable housing in the places in between.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • desmchandesmchan Member Posts: 9
    The Zaino clay did get very soft about halfway through a very dirty car. It lost it function if it become too soft. I cut the Zanio clay bar into two pieces, I only use half of the bar. If the car is not too dirty, you can finish the car with one clay without gettting too soft. I finished claying my suburban with only an half. However, I have to use my second half when I clayed my 5 years old Maxima. If you air dry the very soft clay for a day or two, it should be reuseable next time.
  • peterskmpeterskm Member Posts: 79
    I use the erazer clay bar and I gotta say it is nice. It seems to be stiffer than some of the other bars mentioned here. It does not break down when you use it. It also performs well and lasts a long time. Two thumbs up.

    Kevin
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Silvercoupe: You'll actually save money in the long run with Zaino. I agree with pjyoung that for a minimum you should order Z1, Z2, & Z7. And I'd HIGHLY recommend Z6. Why, I even use Z6 on our TV screen! And 'Bama is a great state. 'Been to Mobile (ah,...years ago) and liked it a lot. With your cost of living, fresh air, peace & quiet, etc., it has to be a better place to raise a family than NY. Don't trade.

    Ilambert: I've had an old version of Erazer clay (grey color version) go 'soft' due to over using it on a hot day. I switched to their 'yellow' version and it never happened again. The Zaino Clay Bar is actually an improved version based on the same formula as the Erazer 'Yellow' bar. It should never 'liquify' at normal temperatures (and not over loaded with dirt). I use a very scientific method for determining how much Z7 to use: I pour from the Z7 bottle into a plastic bucket. I only pour the Z7 for as long as it takes me to yell out the word "enough". Works for me.

    Graphicguy: I asked because I'm also in the computer business as a consulting software engineer. In other words, I'm a programmer. I too go back a ways to the Mainframe days and large companies. I now work for a small consulting firm and am currently under contract at Time Warner.
  • daverosedaverose Member Posts: 233
    If money is a concern, email Sal Zaino at sal@zainobros.com and ask him for the name of the closest distributor to you. If the distributor is close enough, you might be able to at least save the Zaino direct shipping and handling and probably get your products more quickly.

    And heed the words: USE THE PRODUCTS SPARINGLY!
  • pinecrestjimpinecrestjim Member Posts: 64
    I let my sister and brother-in-law "borrow" my Z products back the first of August. I had already given my '00SE Miata it's first two coats. My sister has a red '00 Cougar and after seeing the Miata's shine, I convinced her to give the Z a try (it did not take much effort!).

    Well, she postponed the treatment due to numerous excuses for a couple of weeks. Finally, towards the end of August, they gave the Cougar it's first coats, clay and all. My sister couldn't believe the shine. She said she'd send the stuff back to me, but I told her to keep it long enough to get 2 or 3 coats applied. I figured I'd have my stuff back by now..........

    You might remember a "cry" for them to return my Z products if they were reading these posts. That was several weeks back.

    Last night she called me to let me know that she'd ordered from Sal. The kicker - she's keeping my products and having her order sent to me! What a Sis!

    I told her the way the stuff lasts, we could keep trading it off each Thanksgiving and Easter and we'd be in good shape for at least 3 years. They live in Norfolk, VA, I'm in Miami. Too late - she had placed the order.

    Guess this just adds further proof as to the self-selling ability of the Z line. Maybe we should say, the shine sells itself!

    Jim M.
  • theresa11theresa11 Member Posts: 58
    Just had a new clear nosk mask installed on the car (3M product). When I got home, I found some type of bug on the mask and when I wiped it off it left a BIG yellow stain. I tried "elbow grease", then I tried Z-7 (let it sit then tried to wipe it off). Nothing worked. Any suggestions? Can I use WD-40 on a plastic bra? Should I try Dawn? Help - before I put something on that I shouldn't use!
  • silvercoupesilvercoupe Member Posts: 326
    There is no Zaino distributor in my area. I also asked Sal about the minimum that I could start out with and he said just Z1 and Z2. I will at least order those, and maybe the Z7 wash.

    Thanks to all of you for your suggestions.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    The "glow" of your red Solara shows right through the pictures! Really nice! It is almost as shiny as fastdriver's red 300M. You need to apply about 100 more coats to catch up to him, though!
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    theresa11
    Better call the people that sold you the nose mask to see how you can remove the stain. Plastic is porous, so it is possible that the bug juice has soaked into the plastic. Too bad if it has. You better get a couple of coats of Z2 onto the plastic to seal it while you can to prevent more stains. Good Luck!
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    rubenv-

    GREAT pics and of course a great shine. Subsequent applications of Z-2/5/6 will keep your car like this for years to come. I know. My car is 27 months old and still looks like this despite the fact that I was very lax this summer about applying more Z because all it did was rain here in CT.

    Thanks for posting them.

    fastdriver
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    automophile has the right idea. You might try some Dawn followed by good olde 'Fantastic' spray. But in the future, seal the plastic with Z2.
  • lep3554lep3554 Member Posts: 2
    I first heard about Zaino products on an Acura CL board...ordered the products, but traded my 98 CL in on a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo before I used them. Just got done putting the 2nd coat of Z-2 on my patriot blue pearlcoat GC and all I can say is WOW...the second coat was MUCH easier than the first, I now know that I applied way too much the first time...2nd coat is super slick and glossy, incredible depth to the paint...heck if I had known about Zaino before, I might have even considered buying a BLACK GC...LOL
  • bo9877bo9877 Member Posts: 9
    Nice to hear from a fellow resident in the Heart of Dixie (I'm from Montgomery myself)! I first Zaino'ed my 2000 Civic Si this past summer and learned one thing that might pertain to you: humidity. Anywhere where it can be a sunny day and 100% humidity is going to cause Zaino drying problems. It took an overnight wait (about 9 hours) for my initial application of Z1/Z2 to dry and about 4 hours for each subsequent coat of Z2 to dry. BUT, don't let these waiting times discourage you...the end result is well worth the wait. Good luck, silvercoupe!
  • mbdrivermbdriver Member Posts: 426
    I have about 7 or 8 coats of Z-2 on my brilliant silver '00 Mercedes E320. The rain actually seems to help keep the car clean. Yesterday it rained buckets here in the D.C area, and the car got a good soaking. I pulled into the garage with water beads all over the finish. But I just shut it down and went inside the house. (Before Zaino, I would have spent time and several clean towels wiping the water off.)

    This morning the car was completely dry and looked like it was just washed! No water spots, no dirt anywhere, and the paint was as slick as . . . My biggest headache is trying to regularly clean the brake dust off the wheels.

    Am I a Zaino fanatic? You bet, and I'll never go back to anything else!!
  • chris168chris168 Member Posts: 14
    Today I Z5'd my car again followed by Z6 and I started to wonder if I could put another coat of Z5 or Z2 right then. Is there a curing time needed for the Z5/Z2? Or can I simply keep putting on and taking off the each successful layer of polish until Im dead tired?

    If there is a cure time then it would be tough to get many coats of Z on since my car is a daily commuter.

    Thanks,

    Chris
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    AS I understand it (I'm not an expert), you should wait at least 8 hours between coats of Z5 or Z2. Some say 24 hours is best. I not sure what happens if you use less time. Maybe you should email Sal Zaino. He would know.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    chris 168-

    Here is what Sal says on his website in the FAQ section-
    "Q: Everybody says I should wait 24 hours between coats. If I apply a coat of polish and wait over night, or longer before removing Zaino polish, do I wait another 24 hours from the time I remove the residue before applying another coat?

    A: Yes. After removing a coat of polish, you can apply the next coat after 8 hours if the temperature is above 70 degrees f. If it is below 70 degrees, you should wait the full 24 hours after removing the previous coat for optimal results."

    Hope this clarifies things.

    fastdriver
  • rizzo7rizzo7 Member Posts: 8
    Hi. I now have a couple of coats of Zaino on my Maxima, and it just looks perfect, almost no swirls left from the dealer prep. Unfortunately, now with the winter just a few months away, I know I'll have to resort to automatic car washes b/c it just gets too cold here in the northeast to wash your car in the winter. I'm sure I'll end up with deeper scratches again.

    Do any of you have any inventive ways to keep your cars clean during the winter? (other than not driving them :-) ) I'd really hate to have all this work ruined by the automatic car washes that I will inevitably have to face. Thanks.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    I hope that Christine appreciates the great care you take of her - in spite of the reliability issues!
  • mike543mike543 Member Posts: 2
    Recently, after purchasing a BMW 528i, I've tested many polishes and waxes. In my research, Mothers, Armor All, BLue Coral, Eagle One, Black Magic, and all others failed. Only Meguiars (proffesional products, not consumer), Zymol (expensive and pain to use), and Zaino Bros worked well.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Zaino also saves on the cost of a professional buffer too!!??
  • mbdrivermbdriver Member Posts: 426
    Zaino is also easiest to use, lasts longer and is less expensive in the long run!
  • theresa11theresa11 Member Posts: 58
    Ok - Used Dawn, Z1, then Z2. No question - it is difficult to see haze w/Z1. I have a white car. Followed rec that you dampen applicator then put an X or + and rub applicator to spread the Z1. I fought the urge to add more Z1. Boy, did I ever want to put a lot more on. How much Z2 should I use. I followed the same procedure w/the Z2 - dampen applicator, then place an X or +. When I was finished applying, I could see some hazing. I am not sure if I used enough - now that's a different problem! I let the car sit overnite to dry. I toweled off the excess and found that I needed to somewhat buff or rub w/a little pressure. I am waiting 24 hrs to reapply a second coat of Z2 - how much do I use? While removing excess Z1/Z2, I noticed a few swirl/scratch marks not noticed before. Is there anything that I can do? Thanks for any help.
  • theresa11theresa11 Member Posts: 58
    Regarding the swirl marks or scratches that I noticed while removing the excess Z1/Z2 - the car came out nicely with one coat of Z2, with the exception of the hood. The marks that I noticed are like a long rub mark across the hood. I am wondering if when I had a clear nose mask installed that the installer used a buffer and scratched the hood. Any suggestions of what I can use? The hood does not shine like the rest of the car and the rub marks are still there!. Will more coats of Z2 help? Do I need to reapply Z1 on the hood before Z2? Should I order some Z5?
    The hood marks are driving me crazy - And I do not want to take the car back to the guy who installed the nose mask. Thanks for any help.
  • pjyoungpjyoung Member Posts: 885
    If you've got noticible swirl marks, you might want to get the Z5. I have some minor swirl marks in mine and I thought that Z2 alone would take care of them, but it hasn't. Fortunately, they aren't that noticable, but I might still do the Z5 thing just to take car of it.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,621
    I just got back from an excellent drive around the Southwest (~3950 miles), and having spent many hours over the Labour Day weekend prior to the trip doing the ceremony (dawn, clay, Z7, Z1, Z2, wait, Z2), I was hoping that ongoing maintenance would be less of a pain.

    It is! I collected many bugs, plus tar and other bits of crud on the front of my car, as well as on the RV mirrors, and Z7 took it off with very little effort. In fact, when I rinsed the car prior to washing it, most of the dust & dirt came off right away. A bit of work with the Z7 (3 caps full per gallon or so of water) took off the bugs and other stuff, rinse, then dry the car with the meticulously-selected white towels, and all is well. Well, not really. The finish on this car in the first place is pretty awful, but it definitely looks better with Zaino on it. Slick as can be, but portions of the original finish look like they were put on with a roller.

    Now, I would have shot some Z6 on the clean car, except that during my "spirited" tour around the countryside, the Z6 container got its sprayer/lid loosened, and the whole damn thing drained into the trunk (my clue was the smell -- pleasant in small doses, but overpowering in this case). Anyway, the stuff must be pretty volatile, because I could find no trace of it when I stopped and looked, and other than the hit to my wallet, there's no harm/no foul. I hate to pay another shipping charge to get only Z6 -- maybe there's a distributor in the Phoenix area. Anyone know?

    Anyway, I'm still sold. Stay tuned.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    I've heard that Meguiar's is now making polymer car finishes - anyone have any feedback?
  • lvegas1lvegas1 Member Posts: 1
    Well after reading all the great comments about Zaino I decided to take the plunge and purchase some for myself. Over the last 25 years I've tried just about every wax and polish out there. Some with very good results and others with not.

    2 weeks ago I purchased a 2000 Nissan Maxima SE (Sterling Mist) and decided not to wash or wax it till I received my Zaino. First of all I was amazed at how fast the products arrived (considering payment with a personal check). So yesterday I started - dawn,Z1,Z2. The biggest help from everyone who's posted was not to use to much Z1 or Z2. With the Z1 I really had a hard time seeing where it was, with the Z2 not that much of a problem. I also decided to let it dry overnight just to be on the safe side. This morning when I wiped it down it came off with no problem. After wipe down I then applied Z6 and the shine is awesome. The car looks 10 times better than when I took it off the dealers lot.

    The only question I have is if I have to clay a part of the car to get a spot off (tar, etc.) do I have to apply Z1 again to the affected part before I apply another coat of Z2.

    Thanks again for everyones great tips.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    #617
    Yes, Meguairs makes a poly sealer type product. I have it and I think it cost 18-20 bucks for a bottle of 16 oz. It does go on and off as easy as advertised, just like the Zaino products. The Meguairs product doesn't last as long as the Zaino product by 1-4 to 1-6.
  • crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    Doesn't anyone find the Z6 too concentrated? Should I dilute it? If so, how? Or, does anyone have tips to apply it so that it's not too much of an effort to polish off? I don't spray a lot of it but whatever I do spray seems to be hard to remove. Any tips?
  • daverosedaverose Member Posts: 233
    There is a Zaino Distributor in Arizona; I believe he's in Tucson but have heard that he travels to Phoenix. Email Sal Zaino for contact information: sal@zainobros.com.

    I don't believe that claying requires an application of Z1. Confirm that with Sal, email address above.

    In using Z6, are you insuring that the nozzle is barely open? You want a fine, atomized mist, not a stream. Once you've done that, vary the distance from the vehicle surface until you can control how much or little area you are spraying to balance maximizing the area you cover with being able to wipe it all before it dries.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,140
    As with the rest of Zaino wax products, with Z6, less is better. The spray nozzle on the Z6 is a little tricky, but as daverose said, you want a mist, not droplets or a stream to come out of the nozzle.

    You might also try to slightly dampen one of the Zaino applicators with Z6 and wiping a 1'X 1' section at a time with the dampened applicator and then wiping the area off immediately with a clean cotton towel (not letting the Z6 dry).

    I've invested in a plant mister (and fill it with Z6) to "mist" Z6. You can get them from any garden store. They only cost a few dollars and they work well.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    lvegas1: Provided that you lub the surface well, a light application of clay should NOT remove the Z1/Z2 layer. Unlike an abrasive, clay is designed to 'lift' out the dirt. After such a spot 'claying', you should rinse well and apply Z6 to the affected area.

    crikey: As graphicguy said "less is better". I've found the best way to adjust the Z6 spray is to first close it. Then apply a slight to very moderate pressure on the handle. While keeping the pressure up, open the spray at almost microscopic amounts until you see a very light mist spray. Yep, its a bit tricky. Or you can do as he did and find a better spray bottle. Actually, I now use a spray bottle that came with an old purchase of "Erazer" clay. Works for me. Again, the trick with Z6 is to spray a very small amount and immediately wipe off. And use a very clean cotton towel.

    theresa11: Welecome to the club. And yes, I'd invest in a bottle of Z5 for those swirl marks. Z5 is really amazing. I had a collection of "spider web" marks which are tiny little scratches. Before I knew what I was doing, I made all the classic mistakes with Zaino including applying too much Z1 and Z2 on a cold and wet day. When the Z2 didn't dry quickly, I kept rubbing and thus created those web patterned ("spider") scratches. Well, one application of Z5 eliminated all my mistakes! The result was so beautiful that I didn't even want to apply another layer of Z2! Z2, however, is much tougher than Z5 and is an absolute requirement in the North East.
  • mazda1mike2mazda1mike2 Member Posts: 11
    Please; would someone explain to me in layman terms, the differences between polish(ZYMOL, for example) and wax(NU FINISH, for example), thank you in advance!

    Mike
  • mazda1mike2mazda1mike2 Member Posts: 11
    Nu Finish is a polish and Zymol is a wax. HELP!!
    I have read back in this thread and I am very interested in the Zaino products. First thing first, what is the difference between wax and polish? Thanks again!
  • chris168chris168 Member Posts: 14
    I had a quick question regarding your post where you stated that,

    "A Hint for all taking photos of their cars - It is best NOT to shoot in direct sunlight - the
    contrast is just too much for cameras, and a lot of detail is lost. It is BEST to shoot in open shade, or JUST when the sun goes out of sight so there is no direct sunlight. Then you will get great pics. You will notice there is no sun in car ad pics - they are usually shot just before dawn! "

    Does that basically mean take pictures in the shade? And does taking pics of the car in the sun while the camera is in the shade count, or is the glare off the car too much? Please clarify.

    Thanks a lot,

    -Chris
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    That's actually a very good question. The answer, however, is just a bit more complex. Wax is composed of hydrocarbon oils, some of which have been 'hydragenized' (by nature)(sic) to create what we call a 'wax'. Most car waxes are not 'abrasive'. That is they coat the paint surface and the application process does not scrape off any paint.

    "Most" (not Zaino) "polishes" are slightly abrasive compounds which are used to 'polish' a paint surface by removing any old oxidized dirt and paint. They may also contain wax or polymers to then coat the remaining paint.

    Zaino's Z1, Z2, Z3, & Z5 products are commonly called 'polish', BUT THEY ARE NOT POLISHES. Instead, Zaino is a complex "polymer". For our purposes here, these polymers are lab produced hydrocarbon based string like molecules which bond together to produce a (microscopic) chain-link fence type of weave. When applied to your car's clear coat, the Zaino polymers produce an absolutely clear yet flexible layer of protection. This layer is very thin, but (because it is flexible) can expand and contract along with your car's sheet metal and paint layers. It's also very tough and will out last most wax based products by at least 4 to 1.

    Some good wax products are tough, but due to repeated expansion and contraction (ie: heat of the day and engine heat) develop tiny 'cracks' which grow, allow the oils to leach out, and permit dirt to stick to the surface at a much higher rate than a polymer.

    In addition, most wax products must be 'buffed' or rubbed to produce a good shine. Zaino requires NO buffing. Simply apply it, let it dry, and wipe it off. Zaino's 'shine' is produced by its "reflective" properties and is quite dramatic.
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