Edmunds Members - Cars and Conversations

oldfarmer50 · October 28

We were recently discussing Kia and its reliability issues. I think someone even mentioned poor dealership service. Well, i had my car in for a recall today and got quite an eye opener.

When i had the car into the dealer last year it was for a recall to fix the theft issue. Supposedly, they were to modify the wiring in the steering column such that the old “Kia boyz” hot wire trick would no longer work. They gave it back to me and even put a sticker in the window stating that the car had been fixed so don’t bother trying to steal it.

So today when i dropped it off for the latest recall (potentially rusty brake lines) the service guy says: “would you like us to do the anti-theft recall while it here”? What? I say that it had been done last year and he says:” they tried to do it last year but they didn’t have the parts”. Again, WHAT? I asked if this was so why did they tell it was done and even put a sticker on the window indicating such? I got a shrug.

So…..when I get the car back MAYBE it will be more difficult to steal and MAYBE I won’t be driving around with rusty brake lines but based on the dishonesty of this dealer I might never know.

oldfarmer50 · October 28

kyfdx said:
GD became popular in the U.S., because they keep down fly populations.

In many areas, they are required by building code.

Were people throwing their garbage out the window?

kyfdx · October 28

oldfarmer50 said:

kyfdx said:
GD became popular in the U.S., because they keep down fly populations.

In many areas, they are required by building code.
Were people throwing their garbage out the window?

We don't all live in the frozen North. In the '60s, no plastic bags... if you put food out in a metal can for three hot summer days..

oldfarmer50 · October 28

ab348 said:
Up here in my part of Kanada, garbage disposals are banned in new builds since the sewage treatment plants don’t like them, though you can buy one off the shelf and get it put in. That is in line with our trash collection system. Since the late ‘90s there has been a very rigid system of separation of organics, paper/cardboard, recycling, and old-fashioned garbage. Where I live garbage gets picked up every 2 weeks, with stuff that falls into their non-garbage category getting picked up on the alternate week. Glass, plastic and metal containers go in recycling, paper/cardboard go in separate streams, and organics like food waste and garden debris go in a green bin. Oddly, they don’t allow grass clippings to go in there, and they don’t recycle sytrofoam, which is considered garbage. Makes for a lot of keeping track of what goes where.

In my town you are supposed to separate waste into garbage, recyclables (glass, paper, plastic) and yard waste. The yard waste is made into a compost of questionable quality but the recyclables are dumped in the landfill with the garbage. Pretty dumb.

kyfdx · October 28

Jasper, Indiana wa a pioneer in garbage disposals

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-monster-under-the-sink/

kyfdx · October 28

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/07/28/archives/garbagefree-indiana-town-offers-flies-slim-pickings-a-simple.html

corvette · October 28

@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

ab348 · October 28

Interesting that Jasper mandated in-sink disposers because they had a sewage treatment plant. Here, our such plant was the reason that disposers got banned since the ground-up organic material was overtaxing it.

jmonroe1 · October 28

oldfarmer50 said:
We were recently discussing Kia and its reliability issues. I think someone even mentioned poor dealership service. Well, i had my car in for a recall today and got quite an eye opener.

When i had the car into the dealer last year it was for a recall to fix the theft issue. Supposedly, they were to modify the wiring in the steering column such that the old “Kia boyz” hot wire trick would no longer work. They gave it back to me and even put a sticker in the window stating that the car had been fixed so don’t bother trying to steal it.

So today when i dropped it off for the latest recall (potentially rusty brake lines) the service guy says: “would you like us to do the anti-theft recall while it here”? What? I say that it had been done last year and he says:” they tried to do it last year but they didn’t have the parts”. Again, WHAT? I asked if this was so why did they tell it was done and even put a sticker on the window indicating such? I got a shrug.

So…..when I get the car back MAYBE it will be more difficult to steal and MAYBE I won’t be driving around with rusty brake lines but based on the dishonesty of this dealer I might never know.

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Before you leave this time, ask them if they can put it on a lift so you can verify the brake line work was done. Be prepared to hear the sad old excuse that they can’t allow customers in the service area due to insurance reasons.

If you’re ever in the Burgh area let me know so you can get it up on Son #1s 4-post lift that he installed a little over a month ago. Man, has he attracted friends since he did that.

jmonroe

xwesx · October 28

@jmonroe1 I am not sure if his is a mechanic four-post or a storage four-post, but there are accessories for the mechanic's type lift where you can raise wheels off the lift tracks in order to pull tires, do suspension work, etc. The best of both worlds (two-post and four-post)!

kyfdx · October 28

ab348 said:
Interesting that Jasper mandated in-sink disposers because they had a sewage treatment plant. Here, our such plant was the reason that disposers got banned since the ground-up organic material was overtaxing it.

It's very possible that sewage treatment has changed over the last 60 years....

imidazol97 · October 28

Ours sits high enough to put things under it. I got the most powerful model. It has more soundproofing, so it's a lot fatter. That takes up more lateral volume.

jmonroe1 · October 28

xwesx said:
@jmonroe1 I am not sure if his is a mechanic four-post or a storage four-post, but there are accessories for the mechanic's type lift where you can raise wheels off the lift tracks in order to pull tires, do suspension work, etc. The best of both worlds (two-post and four-post)!

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He is going to get one of those rail assemblies that lifts the car so you can do brakes etc. like you’ve mentioned. Then he’ll have the best of both worlds. His primary concern was to get his Vette track car up on the lift and park his SS under the Vette. That gave him an extra parking spot. He couldn’t be happier. I can’t tell you how many oils changes his oldest son has already done for his friends. I’ve seen it in action. I thought it was illegal to do car work like that at home. I’ll have to take a pic someday and post it here.

jmonroe

nyccarguy · October 28

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

ab348 · October 29

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

Have they also banned other types of combustion heat like oil?

nyccarguy · October 29

ab348 said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

Have they also banned other types of combustion heat like oil?

No. Only certain types of heating oil. #2 is ok, but there was a point in time where larger buildings ran on #6 oil which is not not permitted.

tjc78 · October 29

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.

oldfarmer50 · October 29

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

As a famous NY politician once said: “I can’t be worried about every little undercapitalized business”.

NY’s green agenda is going to affect a lot of people.

nyccarguy · October 29

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.

For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.

tjc78 · October 29

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.

For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.

Oh wow... I didn't know that! I'm 99.5% certain that the unions have something to do with that decision!!

Plumbing in NYC is different than mostly anywhere! I still can't believe the amount of lead shower pans and cast iron pipe that is used. I guess the cast pipe is so that rats can't chew through it!

nyccarguy · October 29

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.
For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.

Oh wow... I didn't know that! I'm 99.5% certain that the unions have something to do with that decision!!

Plumbing in NYC is different than mostly anywhere! I still can't believe the amount of lead shower pans and cast iron pipe that is used. I guess the cast pipe is so that rats can't chew through it!

So the rats are the reason that pex is illegal here. That's one regulation I'm happy about.

I stock lead shower pans and have a few customers that do work in Manhattan who use them. Lead shower pans are 100% leak proof if installed correctly like anything else. Important when your $4,000,000 apartment is on top of someone else's $3,000,000 apartment.

PVC is legal here if the building is 3 floors and under. The city doesn't want the fire fighters running into four story plus buildings. I sell a significant amount of cast iron (no hub) pipe and fittings, all domestic, very expensive.

jmonroe1 · October 29

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.

For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.
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Do you sell the Milwaukee pro-press tool and if so what is your price. The price of those suckers used to be around 3 grand. So far we haven’t gotten one of those for the obvious reason but they definitely save a lot of time compared to sweating fittings.

A few years ago I was at plumbing supply store checking out and I had countless sweat fittings on the counter, a youngish plumber who worked for a plumbing outfit said, “I don’t envy you sweating all those fittings. You otta get the pro-press tool”! To which I said, “ I will if you buy it for me.” His reply was, “no way. I’m glad my boss buys those things for us. I don’t remember the last time I had to sweat a fitting”. Almost like a carpenter today not remembering when he didn’t have a pneumatic hammer.

Kids today are soft.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · October 29

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

As a famous NY politician once said: “I can’t be worried about every little undercapitalized business”.

NY’s green agenda is going to affect a lot of people.
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But, they’ll be politically correct doing it. The tree huggers will vote for them but will those votes be enough in the long run?

jmonroe

nyccarguy · October 29

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.
For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.

————————————————
Do you sell the Milwaukee pro-press tool and if so what is your price. The price of those suckers used to be around 3 grand. So far we haven’t gotten one of those for the obvious reason but they definitely save a lot of time compared to sweating fittings.

A few years ago I was at plumbing supply store checking out and I had countless sweat fittings on the counter, a youngish plumber who worked for a plumbing outfit said, “I don’t envy you sweating all those fittings. You otta get the pro-press tool”! To which I said, “ I will if you buy it for me.” His reply was, “no way. I’m glad my boss buys those things for us. I don’t remember the last time I had to sweat a fitting”. Almost like a carpenter today not remembering when he didn’t have a pneumatic hammer.

Kids today are soft.

jmonroe

I'm not a Milwaukee distributor. The press tools that go from 1/2" - 2" are still around $3K. I do have a Ridgid Pro Press tool in stock that goes from 1/2" - 1 1/4" for about $2,300.

tjc78 · October 29

My cousin has the Ridgid one. Worked great at my shore house, when we had to fix a 1/2" copper line in the wall.

tjc78 · October 29

Ahhh... the things we do for work.

Found out yesterday that I'm needed in China to visit the factories and negotiate better terms.... problem is they want me there on 11/10 and now I'm jumping through hoops to get a visa.

Well... not so much me, the company I just paid a small fortune for expediting it.

This will be fun to see how it pans out.

jmonroe1 · October 29

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.
For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.
————————————————
Do you sell the Milwaukee pro-press tool and if so what is your price. The price of those suckers used to be around 3 grand. So far we haven’t gotten one of those for the obvious reason but they definitely save a lot of time compared to sweating fittings.

A few years ago I was at plumbing supply store checking out and I had countless sweat fittings on the counter, a youngish plumber who worked for a plumbing outfit said, “I don’t envy you sweating all those fittings. You otta get the pro-press tool”! To which I said, “ I will if you buy it for me.” His reply was, “no way. I’m glad my boss buys those things for us. I don’t remember the last time I had to sweat a fitting”. Almost like a carpenter today not remembering when he didn’t have a pneumatic hammer.

Kids today are soft.

jmonroe

I'm not a Milwaukee distributor. The press tools that go from 1/2" - 2" are still around $3K. I do have a Ridgid Pro Press tool in stock that goes from 1/2" - 1 1/4" for about $2,300.
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Thanks for your response.

I remember the day when Ridgid tools were top notch. In my younger days as an industrial electricians helper, I used a Ridgid threading machine to thread lots of ridgid electrical conduit.

I’ll bet if someone put one of those gizmos in front of me today, I could still run some thread.

jmonroe

nyccarguy · October 29

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.
For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.
————————————————
Do you sell the Milwaukee pro-press tool and if so what is your price. The price of those suckers used to be around 3 grand. So far we haven’t gotten one of those for the obvious reason but they definitely save a lot of time compared to sweating fittings.

A few years ago I was at plumbing supply store checking out and I had countless sweat fittings on the counter, a youngish plumber who worked for a plumbing outfit said, “I don’t envy you sweating all those fittings. You otta get the pro-press tool”! To which I said, “ I will if you buy it for me.” His reply was, “no way. I’m glad my boss buys those things for us. I don’t remember the last time I had to sweat a fitting”. Almost like a carpenter today not remembering when he didn’t have a pneumatic hammer.

Kids today are soft.

jmonroe
I'm not a Milwaukee distributor. The press tools that go from 1/2" - 2" are still around $3K. I do have a Ridgid Pro Press tool in stock that goes from 1/2" - 1 1/4" for about $2,300.

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Thanks for your response.

I remember the day when Ridgid tools were top notch. In my younger days as an industrial electricians helper, I used a Ridgid threading machine to thread lots of ridgid electrical conduit.

I’ll bet if someone put one of those gizmos in front of me today, I could still run some thread.

jmonroe

Today, Ridgid still does make top notch tools. Milwaukee is just EVERYWHERE and they make battery powered specialty tools for EVERYTHING. You probably used a Ridgid 700 threading machine. Milwaukee has a battery operated equivalent so you can bring it up on a ladder with you without worrying about an extension cord. Milwaukee has a machine that grooves pipe, cuts steel pipe, cuts kindorf (strut pipe to you electricians).

houdini1 · October 29

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

As a famous NY politician once said: “I can’t be worried about every little undercapitalized business”.

NY’s green agenda is going to affect a lot of people.

————————————————
But, they’ll be politically correct doing it. The tree huggers will vote for them but will those votes be enough in the long run?

jmonroe

NYC will be the last to admit it, but even Bill Gates just admitted that climate change has been exaggerated over the last 40 years and from now on he's going to be spending his money on more important matters.

jmonroe1 · October 29

houdini1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

As a famous NY politician once said: “I can’t be worried about every little undercapitalized business”.

NY’s green agenda is going to affect a lot of people.
————————————————
But, they’ll be politically correct doing it. The tree huggers will vote for them but will those votes be enough in the long run?

jmonroe

NYC will be the last to admit it, but even Bill Gates just admitted that climate change has been exaggerated over the last 40 years and from now on he's going to be spending his money on more important matters.
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How do I register as “a more important matter” for the Bill Gates Foundation? Stretching the truth doesn’t bother me…just ask the IRS.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · October 29

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

@corvette said:
@kyfdx - I love the 99PI podcast.

The other reason I don't want a disposal is that my house is on a septic tank and lines and not public sewer.

That NY state mandate banning gas heat in new construction will really affect people who want an easy form of backup heat... With a gas furnace, the cost for that is a $600 inverter generator from Harbor Freight and a bypass switch. With a heat pump, you'd need a whole house generator powerful enough to run the whole system during a defrost cycle.

It also affects those of us who sell iron pipe and fittings for gas powered boilers in New York City.

Do you still sell a lot of threaded fittings, or has Viega MegaPress more or less taken over for gas lines. I know the fittings are much more expensive but the time savings for the techs is huge.
For gas and steam, threaded pipe and fittings are still code here in the city. Mega Press isn't approved (yet), but I know guys who have used it for repairs. We sell press fittings for copper as well as traditional sweat fittings. The fittings themselves are more expensive, but the job can be done in about 25% of the time.
————————————————
Do you sell the Milwaukee pro-press tool and if so what is your price. The price of those suckers used to be around 3 grand. So far we haven’t gotten one of those for the obvious reason but they definitely save a lot of time compared to sweating fittings.

A few years ago I was at plumbing supply store checking out and I had countless sweat fittings on the counter, a youngish plumber who worked for a plumbing outfit said, “I don’t envy you sweating all those fittings. You otta get the pro-press tool”! To which I said, “ I will if you buy it for me.” His reply was, “no way. I’m glad my boss buys those things for us. I don’t remember the last time I had to sweat a fitting”. Almost like a carpenter today not remembering when he didn’t have a pneumatic hammer.

Kids today are soft.

jmonroe
I'm not a Milwaukee distributor. The press tools that go from 1/2" - 2" are still around $3K. I do have a Ridgid Pro Press tool in stock that goes from 1/2" - 1 1/4" for about $2,300.
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Thanks for your response.

I remember the day when Ridgid tools were top notch. In my younger days as an industrial electricians helper, I used a Ridgid threading machine to thread lots of ridgid electrical conduit.

I’ll bet if someone put one of those gizmos in front of me today, I could still run some thread.

jmonroe

Today, Ridgid still does make top notch tools. Milwaukee is just EVERYWHERE and they make battery powered specialty tools for EVERYTHING. You probably used a Ridgid 700 threading machine. Milwaukee has a battery operated equivalent so you can bring it up on a ladder with you without worrying about an extension cord. Milwaukee has a machine that grooves pipe, cuts steel pipe, cuts kindorf (strut pipe to you electricians).
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I think you mean “unistrut”. I hung more miles of conduit from that stuff than I care to remember. There are somethings a guy wants to forget.

jmonroe

andres3 · October 29

I will never move to Florida for the following reason, a recent study found that Florida, Louisiana, and New York have the highest auto insurance costs in the USA all other things being equal. I don't have any interest in those 3 States.

Florida is absurd and easily number one. Maine is the cheapest. Moving from Maine to Florida could have you paying 260% more. Iowa and Idaho are bargains too, must be something about the State name starting with the letter "I."

I always say follow the money to find the truth. So the truth is, something is wrong with those highest cost 3 States!

nyccarguy · October 29

@andres3 said:
I will never move to Florida for the following reason, a recent study found that Florida, Louisiana, and New York have the highest auto insurance costs in the USA all other things being equal. I don't have any interest in those 3 States.

Florida is absurd and easily number one. Maine is the cheapest. Moving from Maine to Florida could have you paying 260% more. Iowa and Idaho are bargains too, must be something about the State name starting with the letter "I."

I always say follow the money to find the truth. So the truth is, something is wrong with those highest cost 3 States!

There is a big difference in insurance between South Florida and the rest of the state. Once you are above a certain point (north of palm beach county?), insurance is much cheaper.

jmonroe1 · October 29

tjc78 said:
Ahhh... the things we do for work.

Found out yesterday that I'm needed in China to visit the factories and negotiate better terms.... problem is they want me there on 11/10 and now I'm jumping through hoops to get a visa.

Well... not so much me, the company I just paid a small fortune for expediting it.

This will be fun to see how it pans out.

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Suggestion: Get a pair of comfortable waterproof shoes for when you’re walking to China.

jmonroe

xwesx · October 29

Interesting.

houdini1 said:
NYC will be the last to admit it, but even Bill Gates just admitted that climate change has been exaggerated over the last 40 years and from now on he's going to be spending his money on more important matters.

And, sadly, that's complete nonsense. Unfortunately, for the time being, you have to live at the extremes of the planet to clearly see the changes and their steady march forward, and it is a very small percentage of the population that lives in those areas.

corvette · October 29

I can explain high insurance costs in Louisiana since that was one of my primary states at my old job... the level of corruption there tends to be much higher compared to the average US state. I still love visiting NOLA, though.

Idaho seems to have four way stops about every mile on two lane roads, which, when I was there, definitely kept me from getting much over the 55 MPH speed limit, because you were just going to have to stop again anyway.

driver100 · October 30

andres3 said:
I will never move to Florida for the following reason, a recent study found that Florida, Louisiana, and New York have the highest auto insurance costs in the USA all other things being equal. I don't have any interest in those 3 States.

Florida is absurd and easily number one. Maine is the cheapest. Moving from Maine to Florida could have you paying 260% more. Iowa and Idaho are bargains too, must be something about the State name starting with the letter "I."

I always say follow the money to find the truth. So the truth is, something is wrong with those highest cost 3 States!

True....but no state tax in Florida

nyccarguy · October 30

driver100 said:

andres3 said:
I will never move to Florida for the following reason, a recent study found that Florida, Louisiana, and New York have the highest auto insurance costs in the USA all other things being equal. I don't have any interest in those 3 States.

Florida is absurd and easily number one. Maine is the cheapest. Moving from Maine to Florida could have you paying 260% more. Iowa and Idaho are bargains too, must be something about the State name starting with the letter "I."

I always say follow the money to find the truth. So the truth is, something is wrong with those highest cost 3 States!
True....but no state tax in Florida

The high cost of homeowner's insurance as well as the high cost of auto insurance (especially in South Florida) offset the "no state income tax" for many. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

tjc78 · October 30

I don't think I ever spoke about it here.... but my wife was very far into negotiations with a company in the Orlando area. We did a lot of research into what it would look like to live down there in the nice suburbs.

It honestly wasn't that much less than NJ all in. The houses were more, taxes much less, car insurance similar...

Only thing for us is we would have gone from two houses to one so there was obvious savings there. The homes we were looking at there were very, very large and down there a pool is a must have for us especially with no shore house.

The gig didn't pan out and everything was for the best, as what she got is a better position and fully WFH.

nyccarguy · October 30

tjc78 said:
I don't think I ever spoke about it here.... but my wife was very far into negotiations with a company in the Orlando area. We did a lot of research into what it would look like to live down there in the nice suburbs.

It honestly wasn't that much less than NJ all in. The houses were more, taxes much less, car insurance similar...

Only thing for us is we would have gone from two houses to one so there was obvious savings there. The homes we were looking at there were very, very large and down there a pool is a must have for us especially with no shore house.

The gig didn't pan out and everything was for the best, as what she got is a better position and fully WFH.

My best friend moved from Wilton, CT to Boca Raton, FL about 3 years ago. He has a knack for timing things absolutely perfectly and rarely compromises. He sold his house in CT at the perfect time and then bought a great house during a slight correction down in FL. The house in FL cost more than in CT. He said the property taxes were a wash. His auto and homeowner's insurance costs skyrocketed (more than double) in FL compared to CT and he had to drastically reduce his coverages. He lived very comfortably up in CT and despite the same income, says just everything besides the price of gas seems so expensive.

tjc78 · October 30

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:
I don't think I ever spoke about it here.... but my wife was very far into negotiations with a company in the Orlando area. We did a lot of research into what it would look like to live down there in the nice suburbs.

It honestly wasn't that much less than NJ all in. The houses were more, taxes much less, car insurance similar...

Only thing for us is we would have gone from two houses to one so there was obvious savings there. The homes we were looking at there were very, very large and down there a pool is a must have for us especially with no shore house.

The gig didn't pan out and everything was for the best, as what she got is a better position and fully WFH.
My best friend moved from Wilton, CT to Boca Raton, FL about 3 years ago. He has a knack for timing things absolutely perfectly and rarely compromises. He sold his house in CT at the perfect time and then bought a great house during a slight correction down in FL. The house in FL cost more than in CT. He said the property taxes were a wash. His auto and homeowner's insurance costs skyrocketed (more than double) in FL compared to CT and he had to drastically reduce his coverages. He lived very comfortably up in CT and despite the same income, says just everything besides the price of gas seems so expensive.

Yep - it was not the slam dunk we thought it was going to be. Now, the areas we looked at were admittedly upscale, but you need that in order to have good schools down there.

explorerx4 · October 30

We know several people that moved from CT to the south and then moved back because healthcare quality was not good.

nyccarguy · October 30

tjc78 said:

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:
I don't think I ever spoke about it here.... but my wife was very far into negotiations with a company in the Orlando area. We did a lot of research into what it would look like to live down there in the nice suburbs.

It honestly wasn't that much less than NJ all in. The houses were more, taxes much less, car insurance similar...

Only thing for us is we would have gone from two houses to one so there was obvious savings there. The homes we were looking at there were very, very large and down there a pool is a must have for us especially with no shore house.

The gig didn't pan out and everything was for the best, as what she got is a better position and fully WFH.
My best friend moved from Wilton, CT to Boca Raton, FL about 3 years ago. He has a knack for timing things absolutely perfectly and rarely compromises. He sold his house in CT at the perfect time and then bought a great house during a slight correction down in FL. The house in FL cost more than in CT. He said the property taxes were a wash. His auto and homeowner's insurance costs skyrocketed (more than double) in FL compared to CT and he had to drastically reduce his coverages. He lived very comfortably up in CT and despite the same income, says just everything besides the price of gas seems so expensive.
Yep - it was not the slam dunk we thought it was going to be. Now, the areas we looked at were admittedly upscale, but you need that in order to have good schools down there.

Even that, he said his kids say they don't get nearly the amount of work in FL that they got in CT. His son was a B/C or all B student in CT. He got straight As in school in FL.

corvette · October 30

This is embarrassing, but I used to be really good at IT things. I have six old hard drives in my basement with data that has been migrated to newer machines. I decided to secure wipe them before physically damaging them and recycling them.

MacOS appears to no longer offer a secure wipe option as part of its disk utility. I attempted using the command line in Windows, but it errored out. Tried using a couple of old boot CDs on an older laptop, but they didn't work--I suspect because they had been burned 15+ years ago, and burned CDs have a limited shelf life. Finally decided to purchase a utility that everyone seems to rate highly, and burned the image to a USB stick. The USB stick refused to properly boot on my older laptop, so I plugged it into the newer laptop and it booted.

In the process of trying to secure erase a different USB stick, I misidentified it and instead nuked the SSD in my personal Windows laptop, which I didn't realize until I tried to boot it in Windows this afternoon. I tried downloading a Windows 11 installer from Microsoft, burned that to a USB stick, and it booted but refused to move forward, as it said it needed specialized drivers to install on my machine. Now, it's downloading a recovery image from Asus, which I assume will put it back to its factory state with Windows 10, so then I'll have to complete the Windows 11 upgrade process again, and restore my data. Fun stuff.

Of course, none of this would have happened if there were just an easy utility or option to tell Windows or MacOS "hey, about that USB drive I just plugged in, I'd like it securely erased."

tjc78 · October 30

1/4" drill bit will securely wipe any hard drive or USB stick

corvette · October 30

A pair of lineman’s pliers made quick work of the USB stick, lol.

28firefighter · October 30

I used to work in data forensics. My original teacher used to shoot them.

jmonroe1 · October 30

corvette said:
This is embarrassing, but I used to be really good at IT things. I have six old hard drives in my basement with data that has been migrated to newer machines. I decided to secure wipe them before physically damaging them and recycling them.

MacOS appears to no longer offer a secure wipe option as part of its disk utility. I attempted using the command line in Windows, but it errored out. Tried using a couple of old boot CDs on an older laptop, but they didn't work--I suspect because they had been burned 15+ years ago, and burned CDs have a limited shelf life. Finally decided to purchase a utility that everyone seems to rate highly, and burned the image to a USB stick. The USB stick refused to properly boot on my older laptop, so I plugged it into the newer laptop and it booted.

In the process of trying to secure erase a different USB stick, I misidentified it and instead nuked the SSD in my personal Windows laptop, which I didn't realize until I tried to boot it in Windows this afternoon. I tried downloading a Windows 11 installer from Microsoft, burned that to a USB stick, and it booted but refused to move forward, as it said it needed specialized drivers to install on my machine. Now, it's downloading a recovery image from Asus, which I assume will put it back to its factory state with Windows 10, so then I'll have to complete the Windows 11 upgrade process again, and restore my data. Fun stuff.

Of course, none of this would have happened if there were just an easy utility or option to tell Windows or MacOS "hey, about that USB drive I just plugged in, I'd like it securely erased."

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Once you got into trouble why didn’t you ask our poster buddy @ab348 gor help?

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · October 30

28firefighter said:
I used to work in data forensics. My original teacher used to shoot them.

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Sulfuric acid works too but it’s smelly.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · October 30

andres3 said:
I will never move to Florida for the following reason, a recent study found that Florida, Louisiana, and New York have the highest auto insurance costs in the USA all other things being equal. I don't have any interest in those 3 States.

Florida is absurd and easily number one. Maine is the cheapest. Moving from Maine to Florida could have you paying 260% more. Iowa and Idaho are bargains too, must be something about the State name starting with the letter "I."

I always say follow the money to find the truth. So the truth is, something is wrong with those highest cost 3 States!

In NY I pay a little over $3k per year for 4 vehicles, two with full coverage, two with just liability. Million dollar limit. Pretty cheap from what I’ve heard others pay. I think a lot depends on your zip code. Living in a high crime city area vs. a more rural one makes a difference.

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