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andres3 · December 22

Da Bears!

Stories like this one below remind me that the NHTSA throws a party every time it happens. They celebrate another pad to their padding of the propaganda propagating "speed kills" mythology. Because a dummy that doesn't know how to drive and running from the police to evade capture is EXACTLY the same as someone that does know how to drive and just goes 15 to 20 over an under posted speed limit where it is safe to do so. Makes total sense to lump them together statistically.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/one-passenger-dead-after-houston-police-chase-raises-familiar-questions/ar-AA1SJ9yZ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=694968c1c00641518602d46bbe8804eb&ei=79#comments

driver100 · December 22

stickguy said:
At my old house the opener was bolted to the door (a center strip designed for that) and actually ripped out. The door people came and put a piece of steel across the door and attached the opener to that. No issues again.

That has been done twice now....but the door is losing strength.

sda · December 22

At my old house the opener was bolted to the door (a center strip designed for that) and actually ripped out. The door people came and put a piece of steel across the door and attached the opener to that. No issues again.

That has been done twice now....but the door is losing strength.

Sounds like it may be closing with too much force stressing the attachment point.

driver100 · December 22

sda said:
At my old house the opener was bolted to the door (a center strip designed for that) and actually ripped out. The door people came and put a piece of steel across the door and attached the opener to that. No issues again.

That has been done twice now....but the door is losing strength.

Sounds like it may be closing with too much force stressing the attachment point.

I think it is pulling up that weakens it. The wood is starting to weaken. I haven't looked at it, and it is too hard to get MrsD100 to try and explain it on the phone. All I know is she couldn't go to her TRX class at the Y.

venture · December 22

driver100 said:

sda said:
At my old house the opener was bolted to the door (a center strip designed for that) and actually ripped out. The door people came and put a piece of steel across the door and attached the opener to that. No issues again.

That has been done twice now....but the door is losing strength.

Sounds like it may be closing with too much force stressing the attachment point.

I think it is pulling up that weakens it. The wood is starting to weaken. I haven't looked at it, and it is too hard to get MrsD100 to try and explain it on the phone. All I know is she couldn't go to her TRX class at the Y.

If only there were a way to video it and send it to you.

xwesx · December 22

Yeah, sounds like perhaps the spring is not balanced correctly. The opener really shouldn't have to pull it up and lower it down as much as guide it one way or the other. But, if it has already done damage multiple times, a full replacement is a good way to reset the clock on the whole shebang!

jmonroe1 · December 22

Sounds like it may be closing with too much force stressing the attachment point.

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You took the words right out of my mouth.

jmonroe

nyccarguy · December 22

Back to appliances! Dryer started acting funny. Sucked the lint trap out and some socks & underwear started going outward. Then it wouldn’t turn on. Called the place I bought it from to check if it still under the extended warranty. Nope. 5 years from April 2019. I’m sure it might be the belt…

jmonroe1 · December 22

@nyccarguy said:
Back to appliances! Dryer started acting funny. Sucked the lint trap out and some socks & underwear started going outward. Then it wouldn’t turn on. Called the place I bought it from to check if it still under the extended warranty. Nope. 5 years from April 2019. I’m sure it might be the belt…

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That’s a first for me. I never heard of a dryer acting like a vacuum. I’m pretty sure you’ve said your house is all electric, so check the breaker to see if it’s tripped (it’s should be a 30 amp breaker), I’ll assume your drier has digital controls so that is one way to see if you have power, if you don’t have any kind of a display, the breaker is probably tripped. As for the drum not turning that could be a belt, so try to turn the drum by hand if you don’t feel much resistance the belt could be broken. If the belt is broken, if you listen carefully, you should be able to hear the drum motor running,

I still can’t figure out how it’s sucking out clothing. It’s probably throwing the clothes out not sucking them out but that’s just a technicality because that’s still not normal.

Let us know what it turns out to be.

Good luck.

jmonroe

nyccarguy · December 23

jmonroe1 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Back to appliances! Dryer started acting funny. Sucked the lint trap out and some socks & underwear started going outward. Then it wouldn’t turn on. Called the place I bought it from to check if it still under the extended warranty. Nope. 5 years from April 2019. I’m sure it might be the belt…

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That’s a first for me. I never heard of a dryer acting like a vacuum. I’m pretty sure you’ve said your house is all electric, so check the breaker to see if it’s tripped (it’s should be a 30 amp breaker), I’ll assume your drier has digital controls so that is one way to see if you have power, if you don’t have any kind of a display, the breaker is probably tripped. As for the drum not turning that could be a belt, so try to turn the drum by hand if you don’t feel much resistance the belt could be broken. If the belt is broken, if you listen carefully, you should be able to hear the drum motor running,

I still can’t figure out how it’s sucking out clothing. It’s probably throwing the clothes out not sucking them out but that’s just a technicality because that’s still not normal.

Let us know what it turns out to be.

Good luck.

jmonroe

There is definitely power going to the dryer. The display lights up. I can hear the motor. It is difficult to spin by hand.

jmonroe1 · December 23

@nyccarguy said:
There is definitely power going to the dryer. The display lights up. I can hear the motor. It is difficult to spin by hand.

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If the drum is very difficult to turn by hand (it would be nice if you knew how it turned when it was working), it could be the belt has twisted. I’ve heard of that but I’ve never seen that myself. The only way to be sure is to take off what ever panel/s are necessary so you can see if that is the problem.

If the belt is where it should be but there is something keeping the drum from turning, if you run the motor long enough you’ll smell the rubber which is bad and will eventually ruin the belt.

Still can’t explain why the clothes are being ejected. Maybe Google the problem and/or search that problem via your model number.

Again, let us know what you find.

jmonroe

Michaell · December 23

OK, a personal EV tale of woe to share.

My daughters best friend just got a new Leaf as her primary daily, and she charges up from what I assume is a 110 outlet at her house (11 hours to get a full charge, give or take).

She's helping out at the studio yesterday and today (camp while the kids are out of school), so she's been driving up from Co Springs, a distance of 60+ miles, one way.

No problems yesterday, but for some reason the charge last night didn't fully take, so now she doesn't have enough range to get home. Wife is looking for a charging station close by, but can't find anything as the Leaf uses the older charging technology.

Not exactly sure how this will all play out; if I learn more, I'll pass it along.

jmonroe1 · December 23

@Michaell said:
OK, a personal EV tale of woe to share.

My daughters best friend just got a new Leaf as her primary daily, and she charges up from what I assume is a 110 outlet at her house (11 hours to get a full charge, give or take).

She's helping out at the studio yesterday and today (camp while the kids are out of school), so she's been driving up from Co Springs, a distance of 60+ miles, one way.

No problems yesterday, but for some reason the charge last night didn't fully take, so now she doesn't have enough range to get home. Wife is looking for a charging station close by, but can't find anything as the Leaf uses the older charging technology.

Not exactly sure how this will all play out; if I learn more, I'll pass it along.

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Check to be sure the car charging settings have not been changed inadvertently if there is such a thing on the Leaf, then try to charge it again.

jmonroe

tjc78 · December 23

Michaell said:
OK, a personal EV tale of woe to share.

My daughters best friend just got a new Leaf as her primary daily, and she charges up from what I assume is a 110 outlet at her house (11 hours to get a full charge, give or take).

She's helping out at the studio yesterday and today (camp while the kids are out of school), so she's been driving up from Co Springs, a distance of 60+ miles, one way.

No problems yesterday, but for some reason the charge last night didn't fully take, so now she doesn't have enough range to get home. Wife is looking for a charging station close by, but can't find anything as the Leaf uses the older charging technology.

Not exactly sure how this will all play out; if I learn more, I'll pass it along.

Most Electrify America stations I have been to have at least one older style connector.

tjc78 · December 23

jmonroe1 said:

@Michaell said:

OK, a personal EV tale of woe to share.

My daughters best friend just got a new Leaf as her primary daily, and she charges up from what I assume is a 110 outlet at her house (11 hours to get a full charge, give or take).

She's helping out at the studio yesterday and today (camp while the kids are out of school), so she's been driving up from Co Springs, a distance of 60+ miles, one way.

No problems yesterday, but for some reason the charge last night didn't fully take, so now she doesn't have enough range to get home. Wife is looking for a charging station close by, but can't find anything as the Leaf uses the older charging technology.

Not exactly sure how this will all play out; if I learn more, I'll pass it along.

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Check to be sure the car charging settings have not been changed inadvertently if there is such a thing on the Leaf, then try to charge it again.

jmonroe

Good call - on my Mercedes it is very easy to hit the slider for max charge and lower it. It happened one night when I plugged it in. I noticed it because the completion time was much too soon for as low as it was. Now I always check the app when I plug it in.

oldfarmer50 · December 23

Brand new car that can’t charge on existing systems? Just when i thought Nissan couldn’t sink any lower.

tjc78 · December 23

oldfarmer50 said:
Brand new car that can’t charge on existing systems? Just when i thought Nissan couldn’t sink any lower.

I think it may be a new to her Leaf. The 2026 charges on the Tesla network

xwesx · December 23

nyccarguy said:

There is definitely power going to the dryer. The display lights up. I can hear the motor. It is difficult to spin by hand.

The good news with dryers is that they are quite easy to open up. I'd check the belt, the blower, and the rollers for the drum. You might be surprised at how much lint and hair can find its way into the cavity of the dryer shell, and then that hair spins up in the motor and rollers, causing friction. Could also be some sort of clog in the intake, which is normally on the back of the dryer.

Other than the little electronic module that modern appliances are so fond of having, a dryer is an extremely simple machine.

corvette · December 23

@Michaell - it should have a J-1772 for Level 2 charging, which would be slower, but better than no charge at all. Level 3 is going to need a CHAdeMO connector. She might download the Plugshare app and configure it to show chargers that will fit her car.

corvette · December 23

This is pretty fascinating, and I commented on one of blancolirio's videos that I'd love to hear his take on it. What I've been able to glean from the web is that, contrary to what the video implies, the pilot was actually in touch with the tower (possibly on a different frequency) and let them know that the plane had depressurized, activating the auto land, and he couldn't get it to disengage, so he let it do its thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Nl3LOZNjc&t=2s

Michaell · December 23

So, the continuation of the Leaf charging story…

She pulled the car around to the back of the studio and plugged into one of the outlets there.

If she needs more charge, there is a charging station about halfway she can stop and use

I know she qualified for credits, but don’t know if it’s brand new or new to her.

driver100 · December 23

venture said:

driver100 said:

sda said:
At my old house the opener was bolted to the door (a center strip designed for that) and actually ripped out. The door people came and put a piece of steel across the door and attached the opener to that. No issues again.

That has been done twice now....but the door is losing strength.

Sounds like it may be closing with too much force stressing the attachment point.

I think it is pulling up that weakens it. The wood is starting to weaken. I haven't looked at it, and it is too hard to get MrsD100 to try and explain it on the phone. All I know is she couldn't go to her TRX class at the Y.

If only there were a way to video it and send it to you.

I would have done that, but I can't do much about it while she is at home and I am in Florida. She messed up the remote for the TV and I had her point her cell phone camera at the remote because I can't remember how it looks when I am in Florida, and I was able to tell her what to do from here....but the garage door has to wait until I get back. But I hear 20 years is longer than most last.

driver100 · December 23

jmonroe1 said:

Sounds like it may be closing with too much force stressing the attachment point.

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You took the words right out of my mouth.

jmonroe

I admit I don't know anything about garage doors, but I think the stress is caused when it goes up....there is a lot of force pulling the door up....down seems easier.

driver100 · December 23

Michaell said:

No problems yesterday, but for some reason the charge last night didn't fully take, so now she doesn't have enough range to get home. Wife is looking for a charging station close by, but can't find anything as the Leaf uses the older charging technology.

.

That's the kind of problem I wouldn't want.......run out of power, can't get to a charger, and run out of power. I know AAA can charge in some places but not everywhere. Do you get it loaded onto a flatbed? What if it happens at 2 a.m., in freezing cold weather or in a snow storm?
I know, it is P.I. to question driving EVs, it seems very easy for it to happen, with no easy solution.

corvette · December 23

@driver100 - the "best practice" in the event of battery depletion is to get towed to the nearest Level 3 charger and not let the tow truck driver leave unless and until you successfully start a charge session. Fortunately, I've never had to do that. Like a lot of other things in life, I usually have both a plan and a backup plan. I've turned back before because I realized I'd be in a precarious situation if I didn't get some juice at the (still) nearest DCFC before proceeding to my destination. That was a trip where, with the benefit of experience, I'd take the Maverick today, because I think the greatest use cases and practical benefits from EVs are situations where you don't have a lot of reliance on DCFC.

ab348 · December 24

driver100 said:

I admit I don't know anything about garage doors, but I think the stress is caused when it goes up....there is a lot of force pulling the door up....down seems easier.

Seems to me it is time to just get her to call "the guy" and pay whatever it takes to get it fixed before she leaves.

tjc78 · December 24

A few months back at the shore all three of our double garage doors needed work. Not cheap. The one unit needed a full overall of all the rollers, springs and cables. One needed just cables and ours needed cables and rollers.

All told it was almost $3,000

imidazol97 · December 24

Son and DIL took their MachE from Dayton to Hueston TX for a wedding. They had no trouble other than in Arkansas on way back the internet was acting up, nationwide IIRC, and there was a little confusion. But the MachE has the long range battery and DIL is hyperorganized in the planning for charging locations. Oh, they also had put a lot of money into the adapter and fee to use Tesla Chargers. They had a mid charger put into garage at home, which is partly paid for in cost of MachE by Ford. For daily drives to her offices and to her brother's home in Michigan, it requires no stops. Perfect, for her use.

But the earth resources used comparing the battery materials and motors to regular vehicles' use is too high in my opinion. A hybrid is more justifiable. I originally had thought I'd want a plug-in hybrid, but that's even more consumptive of resources for battery and motors. For many an EV will work easily in the use cycle.

ab348 · December 24

In theory a plugin hybrid sounds ideal for a lot of use cases, but they mean manufacturers need to essentially build both an electric car and an ICE car in one, so there’s a lot more complexity, weight and cost involved. For the way I drive, an electric is appealing, but the cost is prohibitive. Up here in Kanada, there are no cheap leases readily available either.

stickguy · December 24

Hybrids are not really much more complicated. Just have the battery and some electronics to monitor that. And a plug in just has a bigger battery, and, well, a plug.

there are actually some advantages, on the gas side. ICE engines are very simple really in a hybrid. Essentially antique tech. No DI, no turbos, or all the other modern stuff that can eat you alive when it starts to fail (and is a lot more complicated to build). I looked at the motor in my Maverick yesterday (filled up the washer fluid) and it reminded me of my 1980s vintage Honda. Everything very accessible, and nothing I didn't know what it was hanging off. The Acura, that is a lot harder to tell what is going on!

Oh, the transmission is way simpler too. Just a planetary gearset.

And at least batteries (unlike engines?) can be fully recycled.

ab348 · December 24

A plugin hybrid not only has a bigger battery but also a bigger electric motor in most cases for the times when it runs on electricity only.

benjaminh · December 24

One thing about hybrids is that sometime from around 8 years to 16 years it's likely that the hybrid battery is going to need to be replaced. Chronic car buyers are almost certain to have sold the car long before then, but that means that second or third owner will need to deal with battery replacement. When that hits it seems like the battery and other parts are maybe around $4k and installation is another thousand or so, meaning a repair bill of maybe around $5k. A used battery would be cheaper, of course, but also more likely to fail. Anyway, a hybrid will often save at least $500 in gas over a regular model, but then at the end of ten years it seems like most of those savings go away. Back in 2014 my sister and husband got an Accord Hybrid Touring, paying full list price for it at that time. They've really enjoyed the car, and it still usually gets in the high 30s around town. It used to get around 40 mpg, and so that's possibly a sign that the battery is running down. As long as the hybrid battery doesn't need to be replaced it's saved them some money and has been better for the environment + the car actually still has good resale value for a car of that age. They are hoping to trade it in soon for a Subaru Trailerseeker EV.

stickguy · December 24

8 years is definitely on the short side. Real world results say they should last a lot longer.

but once you are into the 12-15 range, ICE cars can get very expensive. Engines crapping out, or transmissions (go price a 10 speed modern AT replacement).

tjc78 · December 24

IMO the future is EVs that have a small ICE to charge the battery. Similar to how locomotives and cruise ships run.

Ram is supposed to release a truck like that as well as Ford.

xwesx · December 24

That is the route Scout is taking. They do have battery-only, but I suspect the vast majority of sales will be "+generator."

explorerx4 · December 24

The Volt had the engine as a generator years ago.

imidazol97 · December 24

Merry Christmas

corvette · December 24

Scout emailed me this video recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSSIVhgnSzI

snakeweasel · December 24

Merry Christmas to you and yours

https://youtube.com/shorts/zjKIBO_pc9M?si=s2PFL3SUrfYRZ7qp

oldfarmer50 · December 24

tjc78 said:
IMO the future is EVs that have a small ICE to charge the battery. Similar to how locomotives and cruise ships run.

Ram is supposed to release a truck like that as well as Ford.

Isn’t that how the original Prius worked?

corvette · December 24

The original Prius was just a regular hybrid, I think @tjc78 is referring to a plug-in hybrid or EV with range extender.

stickguy · December 24

BMW i3 Also.

Michaell · December 24

EREVs are supposed to be the next new thing. I thought the new Ram pickup was supposed to have that, until it got canceled (I think?).

I'm not sure which approach is better - big engine, little battery, or vice versa.

driver100 · December 24

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

I admit I don't know anything about garage doors, but I think the stress is caused when it goes up....there is a lot of force pulling the door up....down seems easier.
Seems to me it is time to just get her to call "the guy" and pay whatever it takes to get it fixed before she leaves.

She will wait until I get back so we can choose new doors and check out which "Guy" we'll get to come and install new motors and doors.

driver100 · December 24

Michaell said:
EREVs are supposed to be the next new thing. I thought the new Ram pickup was supposed to have that, until it got canceled (I think?).

I'm not sure which approach is better - big engine, little battery, or vice versa.

I want a big engine and a big battery!

Merry Christmas to all...........

nyccarguy · December 24

We’ve had our ‘25 Camry since June and our very happy with it. It continually returns 38-44 mpg on regular gas. Most fill ups it takes less than 10 gallons of gas. Drop the hammer and the acceleration doesn’t disappoint.

Michaell · December 24

@nyccarguy said:
We’ve had our ‘25 Camry since June and our very happy with it. It continually returns 38-44 mpg on regular gas. Most fill ups it takes less than 10 gallons of gas. Drop the hammer and the acceleration doesn’t disappoint.

Yours is the AWD version?

corvette · December 24

Michaell said:
Yours is the AWD version?

Tell me you read this on mobile without saying you read this on mobile...

It's in his signature line, which doesn't show up on mobile, at least for me...

Michaell · December 24

Oh, duh.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

driver100 · December 25

Michaell said:
Oh, duh.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Too much eggnog !

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