no. It was in park for sure. That's the first thing I checked when I got to the car after she came in to get me. I don't use the parking brake to begin with unless on a steep hill.
Katy2 Thank you for sharing your unfortunate experience with us. I am sure a lot of people reading your post are surprised at the warranty on a remanufactured tranny from Honda. I would also have assumed it would be 3 years or 36k.without laying out cash. I will think twice before I purchase a Honda again. My only advice would be to contact the Bureau of Consumer Affairs in your state and find our the laws pertaining to car warranties for your state.They may find a chink in Hondas armor..[The Bureau is affiliated with the Attorney General's Office]. Or, If you know an honest lawyer he may give you advice. Good Luck! :surprise:
Yesterday, the temp outside was 101. I drove my new Honda (have had it three months) to the store, and when I came back out to leave, the car would not start. The engine would turn over, but never clicked to start. Had gas in the tank, windows worked, doors locked, radio came on, remote opener worked. Had to have the car towed -- yes, towed to the dealership. The mechanic said something about a relay switch was bad. I am very disappointed that I have a brand new car with less than 3000 miles and that it was immobile enough to be towed!!!
Honda installed a remanufactured transmission in my '04 LX 4 cyl. in July 2004 when I had only 4,000 miles on the car. There is specific wording in the warranty information booklet that comes with your car stating that replacement parts are warranted for three years or 36,000 miles (I'm at work and don't have the exact wording in front of me). I confirmed this with my service manager at the time. I don't there's any question that you are due this kind of warranty coverage. I can't believe you're getting that kind of run-around. Obviously, warranties carry legal obligations for Honda. Are you considering legal action?
Beyond that, your horror story is what kept me away from a 6-cylinder model when I purchased my Accord in January 2004. I'm guessing your experience is very ususual, but I didn't want to be the unusual case. My sympathy goes out to you -- I'm sure that was a very scary experience. Hope you get satisfaction on the warranty situation.
Forgot to add -- my replacement transmission and installation were completely covered by the original car warranty, and there was never any discussion of a cash payment from me of $200 in order to qualify for 36,000 miles of warranty coverage on the replacement part. Are you sure your dealership isn't just making this up as they go along?
Thanks, chucko3, for posting the warranty booklet.
Well, I read all this last summer when my transmission was replaced and thought I understood it, and my dealer confirmed my understanding, but now I'm revisiting the wording on pages 12 and 13, along with page 35, and it seems to say that a remanufactured part like my tranny is only covered for the remainder of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Looks like the 36,000 miles/36 months replacement parts warranty would apply only to parts installed after the original New Vehicle warranty has expired. That's what it seems to say on page 35, under a heading of "Not Covered by this (Replacement parts) Warranty", which specifically mentions parts installed under the original warranty.
So, in katy2's case, she's saying she has 6 months or 11,000 miles left on the original warranty, and that would appear to be the extent of a warranty on a replacement transmission. If that's true, wonder why her dealership is offering 12 months? And where would they get the authorization to offer 36 months with a $200 payment?
Hi All. I hope to hear some feedback from all you Honda Owners. I own a 2003 Accord Coupe V6 EX. Its a nice car appearance wise but that is about it. At 2000 miles (yes 2k) i had to take the car into the dealer because the rotors were warped. Good thing they covered it. Since then, I have been back 5 times for the same problem.
Over all since I have owned the car (now at 27800 miles) I've had the following problems 1) 5 sets of rotors and 3 sets of brakes(all front) 2) rear brake pads 3) CD player that continuously skips 4) rotten egg smell 5) bogs when I try and start it up 6) new master cylinder 7) new Fuel regulator 8) rear passenger window continuously rattles after being resealed
I just got the car back from inspection, the dealer greased up the calipers in the hopes of stopping the warping problem. I'm seriously considering calling the BBB or using the Lemon law becasue this is ridiculous. I understand some problems as nothing is perfect but there has to be a cutoff point somewhere. I'd like to hear back from anyone if they have gone through the same thing and what you have done to rectifiy your problems. Thanks in advance
Honda set the specs for the part; they paid for the part; they accepted the part as meeting their specs; they installed it in their car. It's Honda's part. To say they're not responsible is like saying the whole car isn't Honda's because they got most of the parts from someone else...
My 03 Accord's airbag light is on, and the horn won't work now also, what might be the cause of this, and how much might it cost me to fix at the dealership?
The car was in an accident about a year ago, but the light came on a couple months ago, and about the same time for the horn. The airbags have never deployed.
I feel your pain, i've been in 5 times for rotors and i only have 27k on the car. Its not my driving as most of it is highway and i baby the car. There is a lot of complaints about the brakes and I'm trying to find a solution and use a different kind of rotor other than the ones that honda puts on because they are garbage.
I guess we both have a same thought. I take back what I said about the dealership. For offering 12 months, could it be a good will? 36 months for $200, just like offering a 6/60K extended warranty for one single component.
Let us know if you find aftermarket rotors that suit the Accord better. While I haven't had the problems with my '03, the rotors on my '98 Accord didn't last long in front and the rear pads had to be replaced sooner than the front ones and the quality of the pads were better than the originals. I love my Accord but...
I had the same thought about a good will offer on the warranty, although it looks like Honda would be obligated at least for the remainder of katy2's new car warranty anyway, if I'm reading it right.
But, the chilling part to me is what she and her family went through when the transmission failed. They are fortunate to have escaped injury. I wonder if it happened because the oil jet kit, or whatever it was called, should actually have been installed, but the dealer just made a bad judgement in not installing it? As far as I've heard, installing that kit has fixed the problem.
They won't do much except give you the run-around. In December of 2004 I bought a new 05 Accord EX V6 coupe with automatic. This car pulled to the right hard enough that it was a pain to drive. The dealer said that they aligned the car, but the problem continued. Honda customer service was contacted, and they gave me no help at all. I was told that the suspension on this car was not adjustable, and therefore there was no way to correct the problem. The run-around continued at the dealer as they told me that the Honda service bulletin on this problem stated that the whole engine cradle must be unbolted and shifted to the right to correct the pulling. They said that they had moved the cradle as far as it would go, and that had no effect on the pull to the right. I gave up on getting anything done and pressured the dealer to swap cars with me. Finally, in disgust, I traded that Honda for another new 05 EX V6 coupe with auto trans, and that was the only way that my problem was fixed. It cost me a lot of cash to do this, but I could not drive the original car any longer as it was such a problem to keep straight on the road. The new one has been perfect for 22000 miles, and I will trade it in for a 2006 car; I doubt I will get another Honda as I feel that I was treated in a shamefull way by a company that is supposed to take care of their customers. I do not think that most people know that the front suspension on the Accord is not adjustable for caster and camber, only toe can be adjusted, and I believe that this is a design fault that Honda will not admit to, so if any of you intend to get a new Accord, my suggestion is to take it for a real test drive, as I did when I bought the second Accord. Sixty miles to be exact. The only reason I bought another Honda is that the dealer did give me a fairly good trade in, but Honda should have picked up the whole tab, or found a way to fix the original car. Buyer beware. If anyone wonders why I bought a car that pulled to the right, the day I took delivery was windy and raining so hard that one could not tell that the car had a problem. I thought it was the wind (gusts to 35 MPH) that was causing the problem. That mistake cost me. Never again.
I am experiencing the same thing with my new 05 Accord LX that I bought at the begining of last month. I just called Honda Service and the guy told me that it is mostly road noise and they can look at it when I take it for my first oil change at 5000 miles ( I currently have only 2200 miles on the car).
I told the person that it happens only when my foot is on the accelerator and vanishes as soon as I take my foot off the pedal.
From the noise, I feel that something is grinding somewhere. It is almost like someone is machining my rotors.
At the minimum, the TSB calls for an installation of an oil jet kit. And the dealer failed to do so. I think that's why the good will comes in. I would call AH headquarter and see if I can get a full 3/36 on a remanu. tranny.
inkie said "I will think twice before I purchase a Honda again."
never again, inkie. don't make the same mistake twice! I have already advised a couple of friends not to buy Honda for their new car -- simply too many problems, and perceived quality is a myth, if not a joke!
I will continue to discourage every friend I can talk to not to purchase any "new generation" Honda Accord.
Yes, Honda did select the part for its application, and possibly dozens of other auto manufacturers selected the same relay for the same application. I doubt that the relay was designed and custom manufactured just for Honda. If it was, it would be a $$$ relay.
Honda and any other manufacturer relies on the quality of it's suppliers, but to say the failure is Honda's fault may be totally wrong. Yes, if the part was incorrectly applied, it could fail prematurely, but if that was the case, there would/will be many more failures.
Something as simple as carelessly power washing the engine (which can drive water into areas it normally would not go) could be the cause of it's failure. Is that still Hondas fault?
I work for a large electronic control designer/manufacturer, and I have seen many failures do to suppliers making bad parts as much as end customers causing the failure. In both examples, we were not the ones that caused the failures, but yes we were the ones that had to stand behind the product it was used in.
If the number of failures start to add up, we will go back to the supplier. Thats one of the reasons why dealers keep failed warranty parts. That relay may go back to Honda and be analyzed.
What I am trying to say is that Honda is not the always the root cause of component failures, so getting frustrated with them maybe the wrong target.
I had the same problem and called Honda Hdq because the dealer ignored my request to replace the unit. I have a 03 v6 accord with 58K. I have never owned a car with radio/climate display problems, can't even recall anybody with such a problem. Honda should have a recall on this item but so far nothing yet. I did get them to replace the unit but I have to pay for the labor. Will try to replace it next week and will let you guys know the total cost. At least I got something but I'm still pissed at the dealer and HDQ. One more thing don't look for the light ...... or you could say it's a 6-900 dollar bulb.
On the older Accords, it means (basically) that the TCU has detected a problem and logged a fault code. Take your Honda in somewhere (AutoZone, PepBoys, or even a Honda dealer) where they have a code reader and can find out what is wrong with your ride.
"The brakes are more grabby when there is more humidity out, or it has rained (I live in Florida). After a few stops, they are better. They definitly take some getting used to."
Even here, high humidity levels cause a small (or not so small) coating of rust to form on the brake rotors. The first few stops are often affected by this, until the coating is scraped off. This is certainly nothing unique to the Accord, but you might notice it more because the brakes are so effective to begin with. The problem is simply exacerbated by the fact that you live in FL.
We do analysis of failed purchased parts where I work. Until they are analyzed, you don't know if it is an application problem, or that it did not meet manufacturers spec. Sometimes we do just send them back to the manufacturer for analysis, but one of the problems with that is it takes time and when you are in production, using the same part, your qualified alternate sources on your spec sheet currently have 30+ week lead times for their parts, you need answers right away, otherwise your shut down. You may be forced to locate a whole new part, which again, takes time. If things get really bad, guess what, your stuck using the questionable part in production, knowing that you will probably will be doing alot of warranty repairs.
I just purchased a 4cyl automatic accord ex and am just getting used to the ride after two weeks of driving. I don't really have any other complaints w/ the car at this time (i feel fortunate after discovering this board). Are the Michelins the best tire for this car or has someone discovered a softer riding tire with good wet and dry traction and decent treadlife?
The manufacturer has its own QC/QA department to ensure the parts meet the specs before they get to the end users. Unless you design the part, how do you test if the parts meet the specs or not? Are you going to design your own test plan for somebody else's design? Take the relay for example. If Honda doesn't design the relay, how do their engineers analyze the problem w/out the relay schematic?
In the case of the relay, you may look for the obvious, open coil, burned or welded contacts, corrosion, etc. You don't necesssarely need schematics for that, but if you do, manufacturers typically provide that type of information.
Specs for a part will list all of it's operating parameters, you being the design engineer will take the parameters of what your design requires, and search with that information. There are many web pages that allow you to enter in your requirements, and it replies with all the devices it has in it's database that meet your specs. Also with the parameters you can bench test the part to see if it does indeed function as designed.
Engineers try to avoid custom designed parts as much as possible, they simply cost too much. Off that shelf parts that are made by the millions will be much more cost effective and will have many available sources, whereas a custom part will not. Sure, Honda uses custom parts in their cars, they would not look like a Honda if the didn't, but in the case of the relay, I would doubt it very much.
Is Honda responsible for repairing the car? SURE they are provided it's under warranty. Is it Honda's fault that the part failed, well it could be, and that's why they may analyze it's failure, but it also may not be anything that they did or did not do to cause it's failure.Thats all I am trying to point out.
The National Account Rep just came back to me today and agreed to give me a 7 year 100,000 mile power train warranty (from the date of my original purchase of my car) to give me peace of mind that they are going to honor transmission problems down the road as well as to compensate for any other damage that might have been caused when the transmission failed on the interstate. I feel that Honda is making it right now.
Thanks to everyone for all the information provided to me!
The web site www.micronair.com has instructions on how to replace cabin filters on hondas, the only thing is their listing starts at 1998 for an Accord. Maybe they just don't make filters for a '97, or maybe your '97 doesn't have a filter?
Anyways, I would think the instructions shown should be close enough to help you locate yours if you do indeed have one.
I am having the same problem with my 98 Accord EX. It started a few months ago. Just last night it went off with no reason 3 times waking all my neighbors. The conditions outside are normally moist/wet, it was just before it started raining. I have not been able to figure this out but it is annoying. The last time it went off I had to leave the car unlocked that night and wouldn't you know I had the car broke into and the money in my console stolen. Anyway, I believe it must be linked to a sensor getting moist and prematurely triggering the alarm but I don't know all the sensors/devices that are tied to the security system. I will post anything if I find out what the problem is. Does anyone have any suggestions to tracking this problem down?
Hi, I have been having the same problem for the last 2 years on my 98 Accord. It is getting worse. Had to have it towed home yesterday. Only when it is hot and I think when the front end is pointed up hill? I am more interested in solving the problem than in who makes the parts. Where is the fuel relay located? How hard is it to replace myself? If anybody can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Greg
I had some the same thoughts about a stiff ride with my 05 Accord with Bridgestone tires. I let some air out of the tires and the ride was softer, but the steering wasn't as good so I put air back in to meet specs. After 3000 miles the ride loosened up a little and is now ok. The Accord has a bit of a stiff ride, and has to break in a little. The tires, suspension, and steering parts are all new and stiff. Except for some road noise, I like the ride now. I don't think it's the tires fault.
Tire pressure gauges differ in accuracy about +-5lbs even when new. The tires that came with my Accord are sensitive to having the right pressure.
That is a common thing with a lot of cars. I have an 05 Accord EX-L and this is the the first car I have had that actually was fairly even on mileage on both halves of the gas guage. Almost every car I have owned either went more miles on the first one-half or on the last one-half. There is nothing wrong with your car.
I have an 05 Accord 4cyl 5 spd and I have that same high pitched whine. I do not think that this is an auto transmission problem as has been suggested in other posts. You mention that it is in the drive train and I think that is correct. In older Chrysler products (when they were junk), this was a common problem. At the time, the mechanics said it was the ring and pinion gear and how they come together. Chrysler solved the problem a long time ago. I am surprised that a company like Honda would have such a problem and be aware of it and do nothing to solve the problem.
Thanks for the replies guys. Indeed, there isnt anything about a cabin filter in the 97 owners manual, ill see if i can locate one just to make sure. Thanks again.
Yes, I'm surprised, too, to be dealing with this kind of noise in a modern, otherwise well engineered car. You may be right in saying it's not coming from the transmission--I have no clue. It was my service manager who decided it was the transmission and then replaced it, plus there is the evidence of that article I mentioned on AT Whine.
However, the replacement transmission did not solve the problem. So either it's a noise common to many transmissions, or it's coming from somewhere else.
I've pretty much given up on having Honda solve this for me. I don't like it, but I can deal with the whine to a certain extent by just turning up the stereo. My concern has also been to be sure it's not a safety issue -- such as gears that are getting too hot, and maybe do what they did to katy2. I hope that's not an issue, as I believe 4 cylinder Accords have not experienced failures like that.
The irony in my case is....not only do I have a remanufactured transmisssion in a practically brand new car (as good as the new one? Maybe. I don't know.), but I also still have the noise. Sort of like double jeopardy.
I have also heard this whine when cruising in 5th gear with my 5-speed auto trans. The whine is not very loud. The only time I hear it, is when the fan speed is in the lower range of settings and the radio is turned down. If I let off the gas to slow a bit it goes away but as soon as I give it a little throttle it comes right back. My Accord also has a much louder whine when backing in reverse. .Here is my guess, the ultra tall 5th gear has RPM's so low (my car only shows 2400 RPM's at 75 MPH) that there is a huge mismatch between the spinning rates between the tranny's output shaft and the final drive. I don't know when the whine fades away, as I rarely drive above 75 MPH. ( I dont feel safe driving any faster due to the way my Accord steers and tracks on the highway) My 5-speed manual Ford Focus would also whine in 5th gear but would disappear by 70 MPH.
Most cabin filters are installed right behind the glove box. A pain to get to - you might be able to look under the glove box to try to look for it. It would make sense that the 97 doesn't have it - that's the last MY for the 5th gen as Honda switched to the 6th gen in 98.
If it is noise coming from the mesh of the gears, you usually can get it to disappear by "floating everything" What I mean by that is to get up to speed, and reach a point where you are not accelerating or decelerating. That will usually make gear noise go away.
I may have overlooked the posting, but has anyone with a V6 noticed the problem? Keep in mind, the I4 has a timing chain, which could be creating a whining noise. The V6 uses a timing belt.
If it was the chain, you would hear it at high rpms in all gears.
I have an 05 exl with the 4 popper & AT... no noise in any gear, save reverse - which has been a norm in fwd cars for at least 20 years.
On another note - rough ride... well - stiff ride anyhow. Over 10k on my car and still rides stiff. Too stiff. I will be changing tires and have talked to a couple of suspension shops on how to make things a little smoother. Would hate to have to put new struts in a brand new car.
I also reported a month ago that the brakes started to feel normal at about 8500 miles... and I now have to retract that statement. In the last 500 miles they have once again become *very* grabby, and I can tell by the feel that they are now balanced front to rear. The fronts engage - and hard - long before the rears do. This problem is starting to become annoying and I am thinking on taking it to the dealer.
Stiffer than expected ride and grabby brakes... not too much in the complaint department. I like the car.
In post #11497 you wrote "After 3000 miles the ride loosened up a little and is now ok. The Accord has a bit of a stiff ride, and has to break in a little. The tires, suspension, and steering parts are all new and stiff. Except for some road noise, I like the ride now. I don't think it's the tires fault." I believe that the actual fact is that it's YOU, and not your new Accord, that has become broken in. You have just adjusted yourself to the feel of the Accord and forgotten the ride of your old car.
Wouldn't it be simpler to just phone the Service or Parts Department of a Honda dealership to just ask whether or not the '97s ever were equipped with cabin filters. Speaking with the experts won't cost you any more than the price of a phone call.
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Thank you for sharing your unfortunate experience with us. I am sure a lot of people reading your post are surprised at the warranty on a remanufactured tranny from Honda. I would also have assumed it would be 3 years or 36k.without laying out cash. I will think twice before I purchase a Honda again. My only advice would be to contact the Bureau of Consumer Affairs in your state and find our the laws pertaining to car warranties for your state.They may find a chink in Hondas armor..[The Bureau is affiliated with the Attorney General's Office]. Or, If you know an honest lawyer he may give you advice. Good Luck! :surprise:
I am very disappointed that I have a brand new car with less than 3000 miles and that it was immobile enough to be towed!!!
Beyond that, your horror story is what kept me away from a 6-cylinder model when I purchased my Accord in January 2004. I'm guessing your experience is very ususual, but I didn't want to be the unusual case. My sympathy goes out to you -- I'm sure that was a very scary experience. Hope you get satisfaction on the warranty situation.
Page 35, under remanufactured parts.
katy2,
That's all the writing you need. Take the warranty booklet and show it to that dealer. Avoid this dealership!!
Mrbill
Well, I read all this last summer when my transmission was replaced and thought I understood it, and my dealer confirmed my understanding, but now I'm revisiting the wording on pages 12 and 13, along with page 35, and it seems to say that a remanufactured part like my tranny is only covered for the remainder of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Looks like the 36,000 miles/36 months replacement parts warranty would apply only to parts installed after the original New Vehicle warranty has expired. That's what it seems to say on page 35, under a heading of "Not Covered by this (Replacement parts) Warranty", which specifically mentions parts installed under the original warranty.
So, in katy2's case, she's saying she has 6 months or 11,000 miles left on the original warranty, and that would appear to be the extent of a warranty on a replacement transmission. If that's true, wonder why her dealership is offering 12 months? And where would they get the authorization to offer 36 months with a $200 payment?
Over all since I have owned the car (now at 27800 miles) I've had the following problems
1) 5 sets of rotors and 3 sets of brakes(all front)
2) rear brake pads
3) CD player that continuously skips
4) rotten egg smell
5) bogs when I try and start it up
6) new master cylinder
7) new Fuel regulator
8) rear passenger window continuously rattles after being resealed
I just got the car back from inspection, the dealer greased up the calipers in the hopes of stopping the warping problem. I'm seriously considering calling the BBB or using the Lemon law becasue this is ridiculous. I understand some problems as nothing is perfect but there has to be a cutoff point somewhere. I'd like to hear back from anyone if they have gone through the same thing and what you have done to rectifiy your problems.
Thanks in advance
Honda set the specs for the part; they paid for the part; they accepted the part as meeting their specs; they installed it in their car. It's Honda's part. To say they're not responsible is like saying the whole car isn't Honda's because they got most of the parts from someone else...
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The car was in an accident about a year ago, but the light came on a couple months ago, and about the same time for the horn. The airbags have never deployed.
For offering 12 months, could it be a good will?
36 months for $200, just like offering a 6/60K extended warranty for one single component.
But, the chilling part to me is what she and her family went through when the transmission failed. They are fortunate to have escaped injury. I wonder if it happened because the oil jet kit, or whatever it was called, should actually have been installed, but the dealer just made a bad judgement in not installing it? As far as I've heard, installing that kit has fixed the problem.
I told the person that it happens only when my foot is on the accelerator and vanishes as soon as I take my foot off the pedal.
From the noise, I feel that something is grinding somewhere. It is almost like someone is machining my rotors.
Please let me know what you find.
Thanks
And the dealer failed to do so. I think that's why the good will comes in.
I would call AH headquarter and see if I can get a full 3/36 on a remanu. tranny.
never again, inkie. don't make the same mistake twice! I have already advised a couple of friends not to buy Honda for their new car -- simply too many problems, and perceived quality is a myth, if not a joke!
I will continue to discourage every friend I can talk to not to purchase any "new generation" Honda Accord.
ramida
Honda and any other manufacturer relies on the quality of it's suppliers, but to say the failure is Honda's fault may be totally wrong. Yes, if the part was incorrectly applied, it could fail prematurely, but if that was the case, there would/will be many more failures.
Something as simple as carelessly power washing the engine (which can drive water into areas it normally would not go) could be the cause of it's failure. Is that still Hondas fault?
I work for a large electronic control designer/manufacturer, and I have seen many failures do to suppliers making bad parts as much as end customers causing the failure. In both examples, we were not the ones that caused the failures, but yes we were the ones that had to stand behind the product it was used in.
If the number of failures start to add up, we will go back to the supplier. Thats one of the reasons why dealers keep failed warranty parts. That relay may go back to Honda and be analyzed.
What I am trying to say is that Honda is not the always the root cause of component failures, so getting frustrated with them maybe the wrong target.
Mrbill
Even here, high humidity levels cause a small (or not so small) coating of rust to form on the brake rotors. The first few stops are often affected by this, until the coating is scraped off. This is certainly nothing unique to the Accord, but you might notice it more because the brakes are so effective to begin with. The problem is simply exacerbated by the fact that you live in FL.
Mrbill
Take the relay for example. If Honda doesn't design the relay, how do their engineers analyze the problem w/out the relay schematic?
Specs for a part will list all of it's operating parameters, you being the design engineer will take the parameters of what your design requires, and search with that information. There are many web pages that allow you to enter in your requirements, and it replies with all the devices it has in it's database that meet your specs. Also with the parameters you can bench test the part to see if it does indeed function as designed.
Engineers try to avoid custom designed parts as much as possible, they simply cost too much. Off that shelf parts that are made by the millions will be much more cost effective and will have many available sources, whereas a custom part will not. Sure, Honda uses custom parts in their cars, they would not look like a Honda if the didn't, but in the case of the relay, I would doubt it very much.
Is Honda responsible for repairing the car? SURE they are provided it's under warranty. Is it Honda's fault that the part failed, well it could be, and that's why they may analyze it's failure, but it also may not be anything that they did or did not do to cause it's failure.Thats all I am trying to point out.
Mrbill
Thanks to everyone for all the information provided to me!
Anyways, I would think the instructions shown should be close enough to help you locate yours if you do indeed have one.
Mrbill
Tire pressure gauges differ in accuracy about +-5lbs even when new. The tires that came with my Accord are sensitive to having the right pressure.
the first car I have had that actually was fairly even on mileage on both halves of the gas guage. Almost every car I have owned either went more miles on the first one-half or on the last one-half. There is nothing wrong with your car.
If everyone replied with just I4's or all manual trannys, that would help in narrowing down the source of the noise.
Mrbill
However, the replacement transmission did not solve the problem. So either it's a noise common to many transmissions, or it's coming from somewhere else.
I've pretty much given up on having Honda solve this for me. I don't like it, but I can deal with the whine to a certain extent by just turning up the stereo. My concern has also been to be sure it's not a safety issue -- such as gears that are getting too hot, and maybe do what they did to katy2. I hope that's not an issue, as I believe 4 cylinder Accords have not experienced failures like that.
The irony in my case is....not only do I have a remanufactured transmisssion in a practically brand new car (as good as the new one? Maybe. I don't know.), but I also still have the noise. Sort of like double jeopardy.
I have also heard this whine when cruising in 5th gear with my 5-speed auto trans. The whine is not very loud. The only time I hear it, is when the fan speed is in the lower range of settings and the radio is turned down. If I let off the gas to slow a bit it goes away but as soon as I give it a little throttle it comes right back. My Accord also has a much louder whine when backing in reverse. .Here is my guess, the ultra tall 5th gear has RPM's so low (my car only shows 2400 RPM's at 75 MPH) that there is a huge mismatch between the spinning rates between the tranny's output shaft and the final drive. I don't know when the whine fades away, as I rarely drive above 75 MPH. ( I dont feel safe driving any faster due to the way my Accord steers and tracks on the highway) My 5-speed manual Ford Focus would also whine in 5th gear but would disappear by 70 MPH.
I may have overlooked the posting, but has anyone with a V6 noticed the problem?
Keep in mind, the I4 has a timing chain, which could be creating a whining noise. The V6 uses a timing belt.
Mrbill
I have an 05 exl with the 4 popper & AT... no noise in any gear, save reverse - which has been a norm in fwd cars for at least 20 years.
On another note - rough ride... well - stiff ride anyhow. Over 10k on my car and still rides stiff. Too stiff. I will be changing tires and have talked to a couple of suspension shops on how to make things a little smoother. Would hate to have to put new struts in a brand new car.
I also reported a month ago that the brakes started to feel normal at about 8500 miles... and I now have to retract that statement. In the last 500 miles they have once again become *very* grabby, and I can tell by the feel that they are now balanced front to rear. The fronts engage - and hard - long before the rears do. This problem is starting to become annoying and I am thinking on taking it to the dealer.
Stiffer than expected ride and grabby brakes... not too much in the complaint department. I like the car.
In post #11497 you wrote "After 3000 miles the ride loosened up a little and is now ok. The Accord has a bit of a stiff ride, and has to break in a little. The tires, suspension, and steering parts are all new and stiff. Except for some road noise, I like the ride now. I don't think it's the tires fault." I believe that the actual fact is that it's YOU, and not your new Accord, that has become broken in. You have just adjusted yourself to the feel of the Accord and forgotten the ride of your old car.
Wouldn't it be simpler to just phone the Service or Parts Department of a Honda dealership to just ask whether or not the '97s ever were equipped with cabin filters. Speaking with the experts won't cost you any more than the price of a phone call.