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-juice
Many thanks to those of you who helped out selecting a Chicago-area dealer for her (I'm in Denver).
Although they gave her a bit of a run-around on the auto-dimming mirror (first it was a factory-installed option for $119, then it was a dealer-installed option for $350 - she told them "no thanks"), mom still feels she got a very good deal and was treated very well.
Only difference from the '02 is the addition of standard cruise control (not available last year, even as an option).
Now we just have to talk her into a cross-country trip to the Rockies, so that we can introduce our Forester to her TS wagon !
cheers,
-brianV
-mike
She did mention that it's both (power) tilt and retract, which she likes. I wish our Forester's moonroof would tilt (although I prefer the size to the tilt option, and I suspect the size makes tilting problematic).
-mike
That pop-up moonroof was cheap, $218?
It does not look like 17", though, more like 14". My wife's is 15" and it's bigger than that, in fact that one may be 13".
Still, looks pretty good, and that price is hard to believe.
-juice
http://www.subaru-global.com/lineup/impreza/ex_sports.html
-mike
-juice
I match revs on upshifts, but not downshifts. When you're going from 3rd to 4th, say, it's not like the clutch is absorbing much torque anyway.
But try easing onto the throttle as you disengage the clutch, to match the revs. If you get good, really good, your passengers will find it so smooth, they'll think you're driving an automatic.
-juice
I don't know what it is, sometimes my car is ornery. I blame me! When I first learned stick I drove in a state of perpetual terror. Thank goodness I made it through that!
There are some great Subaru shifting tips here:
http://www.spdusa.com/shifting.htm
-Dennis
-juice
i found a '99 OBS, 14,400 mi, listed at $12K direct from the owner. white. clean record, great shape. The TMV is $11,172... just wondered if anyone had an opinion or practical experience buying something similar. i figured $11K is a fair price. any thoughts? it seems like a good price for something with such low mileage.
If you can get it for $11k, I'd go for it. That thing is hardly used.
-juice
Clean record, great shape for $12k, it a good price I would say.
-Dave
My Forester got better mileage at 20k miles than it did new. I seriously think her engine is still green, i.e. not yet achieving peak fuel efficiency.
-juice
-mike
cuz I drove it too
Me: "Mom, can I borrow your car."
Mom: "What's wrong with your car."
Me: "Nothing, nothing is wrong with it."
Mom: "Where're you going?"
Me: [grinning] "Going to a BBQ that I-club is having."
Mom: "OK"
Me: [grinning]
This morning Dad asked, "So, how did the car handled?" [with a smirk]...
Me: [grinning] "Oh, I'm late to work gotta go."
-Dave
-mike
My entire center brake light is out (no bulbs work). Does this work like the old Christmas tree lights.... One bad bulb and none will cut
on.
The bulbs "appear" to be good in that the filaments are in tact.
Also, my rr and rl brake lights function properly.
Any ideas / suggestions, or should I just buy five new bulbs and see
what happens?
Thanks,
blb
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
-mike
It's rare, but I have seen apparently intact bulbs fail. Put them on an ohmmeter to be sure. Once you know the bulbs are OK, look for an open in that part of the circuit. You already know that the brake pedal switch works, and that you have power as far as the other brake lights. Should be pretty easy to track down.
hth,
-brianV
Any info?--dealer did not seem to know of any systemic problems.
Does the cruise light come on?
MT or AT?
Could be electrical, loose vacuum hose or clutch cruise switch stopper.
On my '97 OBS, my cruise went out once. It turned out to be this little plastic stopper thingy on the clutch pedal arm. It comes in contact with the cruise disengage switch and mine was broken. It's about halfway up the clutch pedal.
Bought a new one for $1.49 and never had another problem. :-)
-Dennis
Bulbs are cheap, so I say replace all 3. They only last so much time anyway, and with Murphy's Law they'd burn out as soon as you fixed the connection issue.
-juice
To be fair, she's been extremely careful during the break-in period, shifting at 3000 rpm, and keeping her highway speed varied, but below 70-75 mph.
Nevertheless, she's very pleased with the new car's mileage performance, as am I. Her old Golf never did much better, and it didn't have all the extra drivetrain losses (FWD) or the displacement (2.0l).
-brianV
Our Legacy is still new (4k miles), but it's already averaging 25mpg and hit 29+mpg on our last trip. The TS is lighter, so no surprise.
-juice
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
We're at 30k now, I burn 91 octane, and keep the tires at 32 psi all around. I think the biggest mileage factor is that it's really not stop and go city driving, more like sedate highway driving with occasional stops.
Out on the interstate going 80 mph, our mileage actually declines a bit, but we're still in the mid-to-high 20's.
I once got 22 mpg towing our camper to the Black Hills at 75 mph. Try that in a full-size SUV !
-juice
Fill-up can run $50-60. Double ouch.
Keep 'em on horse farms, where they belong. Not even in the 'burbs.
-juice
I think many people let Madison Ave do their thinking for them. They need 7 passenger seating + cargo, but won't be caught dead in a mini-van, since the ad boys declared them "square", so they buy a tank at twice the price instead.
Let's face it. Big SUV's are just as ugly as any mini-van. I don't care how big the tires are, they look like big butt buses.
I loved the Subaru commercial with Paul Hogan and the "world's largest SUV" - a converted school bus with big mag tires, a row of giant driving lights on top and massive bumpers. It was hilarious. ("...seats 84...")
Didn't go over well in truckville, though - they pulled it again after a couple of weeks...
I also think Subie could make a lot of money for itself if it had an extended wheelbase version of the Forester, with more back seat room and more cargo room too. And they need to put the flat 6 in it!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I'd like to see some kind of coupe, too, though I was thinking more in terms of a new SVX based on the WRX, instead.
And definitely, work on some weight loss. The Forester lost 80 lbs with its redesign, while the Imprezas gained some 200 lbs or so. Get those Forester designers in on the Impreza replacement!
-juice
I just went to a dealer and started describing the piece. Before I even told the guy what kind of car I had he asked, "Impreza?".
About halfway up the clutch pedal arm is where the stopper goes. My old one was there, but it was smashed up. I just pulled the old one out and pushed the new one in.
-Dennis
-juice
Yesterday I test drove another 2002 OBS (this one used). Same thing... if I hit the gas hard going straight or around a corner.. it would hesitate before accelerating. The owner said he put in 87 and if he put in 89 it probably wouldn't do that.
Is this true? It felt like a car that needed a tune up.
Otherwise, it handles great and the seat may to be hard for me though. Shame about the seat and acceleration... I like the car.
Also... I saw a 2003 OBS at a dealer... no side airbags yet, even as option. I guess they want you to move up the line. That's foolish marketing though, because you might not move up to the Forester... you may buy a different brand instead.