2013 and earlier Volkswagen Passat Prices Paid and Buying Experience

jayjun · October 2001

So you're saying that there have been substantial numbers of the 2002 Lexus IS300 sold? I find that hard to believe. There are several cars that have a 2002 TMV listed. Just tell us you're busy trying to catch up and we'll cut you some slack. It took forever just to get the 2002 VW info on Edmunds.

silvercrown · October 2001

Thanks for the update, kcram. I'll keep checking over time to see when the TMV pricing will become available. I'm sure it will be there by the time I might need it (next year).

KCRam · October 2001

Hi jayjun

Some of the 2002 models that are listed have either been introduced early, and/or are produced in such limited numbers that a TMV can be more fairly generated. When a car first hits the showrooms, it's impossible to determine what it's selling for right away, and with the events of last month, those values may be skewed if generated solely on recent sales.

As far as being behind, I can't answer that. Town Hall and Data Services (where pricing and TMV are generated) are separate departments in the company.

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jayjun · October 2001

Thanks for the response. I didn't mean to come off like such a smartass.

dabronxr · October 2001

I am in westchester NY area Any1 give me an idea what to expect to pay? Are they Dealing, or looking to get invoice. I want vehicle with no options(actually I want ALL options but am not RICH).

credit1 · October 2001

just closed 30K exactly! hope to have the car by Friday.

zanne2 · October 2001

Can anyone comment if $21,550 (includes all fees) + tax and tags is good price for 2002 GLS 1.8T wagon with standard trans no options in mid-eastern PA area. Need your thoughts ASAP. Thanks!!

vwguild · October 2001

Rock & Roll...$370.00 over Invoice...

zanne2 · October 2001

Thanks for your quick response! By the way, how do I locate your web site?

raybear · October 2001

Maybe they'll let a third party.

http://www.westervw.com/

zanne2 · October 2001

Thanks a lot for stepping in, raybear. I'll check it out. Offer accepted today. First choice color combo not available, but second is, which is just fine! Am excited about joining the VW experience!

essenc · October 2001

Just FYI,
I bought a 2001.5 GLX (white color) here at San Jose (N. California) for $29000 OUT OF DOOR.
The car has 70 miles on it but looks like new.
I think this $4000 off MSRP is a steal. What do you think?

credit · October 2001

2002 glx 4Mo 30K...... 29k doesn't sound so hot for a 2001. its already 2000 less to resell even if it has less miles as its a 2001! Is it 4Mo? if not get an '02 or bid the guy 27K, he'll probably sell. Good luck

jeff_s · October 2001

Are there any factory to dealer incentives for a 2001 Passat GLX?

raybear · October 2001

There were some incentives, good luck finding a leftover, most of the dealers I know are sold out.

jeff_s · October 2001

The local dealer still has a 2001.5 GLX Passat with 5 speed. They are still at invoice price. Looking for dealer incentives that I can negotiate.

raybear · October 2001

I just checked CarDeals. They don't show anything. The deals may have dried up. vwguild would know if there are any deals left, but franky at invoice there may not be much left to argue. How would you feel if someone else bought the car while you fiddled?

vwguild · October 2001

$1400 on V6 & $750 on 1.8T... goes away on All Hallows Eve...

ll1906 · October 2001

I just took delivery of my '02 1.8T with Lthr, Lux, Monsoon w/in-dash CD, and Homelink for $24,089. Hopefully this helps you.

thorsen · October 2001

Question #1: I found a new 01.5 Passat GLX with 4Motion that has 5,000 dealer miles on it. The dealer is willing to sell it for $27,625...sounds like a good deal to me, but what do you guys think? That's probably a couple grand less than an '02, but it has 5,000 miles, no CD, and a shorter bumper to bumper warranty (although it has a longer warranty on the powertrain).

Question #2: How does this car compare to the 02 Audi A4 1.8T? It's got fewer options, and a smaller engine but has anyone driven both?

credit1 · October 2001

I bought 02 glx 4Mo, 30K exactly. no cd, 32 miles. 01 should be 27.5K with no miles, would not pay that for 5k miles. just my 2 cents.

mcpsdna2 · October 2001

DaBronx -- Is the car you bought a manual transmission? What should I expect in pricing on a 1.8T manual? TMV is about $850 over invoice. Is that about right?

mcpsdna2 · October 2001

Is in dash CD standard on the new Passat? I notice people seem to be saying CD is included as an option.

thorsen · October 2001

Are the 2002 Passat GLS 4Motion's available? My dealer said very few have been made so they are almost impossible to find and that ordering one would take 4-5 months. Any truth to this or is he just trying to get me to buy a GLX?
Thanks!

vwguild · November 2001

A new AM/FM/CASS/CD is Standard on all German
built VWs that were produced after week 32 of this
year...(August 12, 2001)

The information on the 4MO issue is half right...
They are very rare, but I can assure you that they
can be ordered...And the order time is no where near 4-5 Months...Typical build times for a specific car are 75-90 days, and that is to Calif.
where there is a 28 day trip across the pond and
around the bend...

sasquach70 · November 2001

Can you provide some info on what VW credit did on money factors as of 11/1. Specifically, I am looking to lease a 02 GLX and am curious what this month's mf will be. thanks.

vwguild · November 2001

Basically everything is the same...Retail APRs have come a few basis points, and 2002 Eurovans
have been added to the subvented list...

If you want specifics on Residual & Factors, please give me a call...PS

cupholder1 · November 2001

That's good news. The lease money factor on the Passat is pretty good. May be good enough to get me to finally put to an end two months worth of tire kicking.

bryancalhoun · November 2001

Can you give me details on the eurovan deal - my dream rig

jbaril · November 2001

One dealership in my area is advertising 4K off of MSRP for all Passats. (There were discounts last month on 4Motions everywhere, it seemed.) Can anyone enlighten me on what's new? There must be dealer cash or trunk money or whatever as of 11/1. I'd love to get a couple of dealers to fight for my business.

Also, what ARE Eurovans going for these days? Will a subvented lease mean dealer cash on purchases? thanks in advance

JOHN in Denver

cupholder1 · November 2001

is that for '02 models? that's a pretty big discount.

jbaril · November 2001

Thanks, cupholder1, I rechecked the newspaper and it is on 2001s that the 4K applies.

JOHN

cupholder1 · November 2001

then go for it by all means. the car is the same, but the warranty is less. for 4k off MSRP, you can buy an extended warranty and still save big. or just grind 'em until they throw in the extended warranty with the deal.

jbaril · November 2001

I bought the ONLY remaining non-4MOTION 2001.5 Passat sedan that I could find, which is a Mojave Beige V6 GLS automatic with Monsoon and Winter, no luxury or leather, for 4K below MSRP, which is 22,525. Couldn't get extended warranty thrown in, but got it down to 1095 (from 1495) in the finance office. Also they put a clear bra, a pinstripe (classy, actually) and a handsome tint on all their cars, so had to pay for that too, although not their prices (they wanted 399 for pinstripe, 499 for tint and 299 for bra).

Anyway, those of you looking for 2001.5 4MOTIONS at 4K off MSRP, come to Denver, there are many! Mountain States has about 8 as does McDonald Automotive Group. Colors seem to be Candy White, Black, good ol' Mojave Beige (which, I must say, is growing on me), and I saw one dark blue and Colorado red.

JOHN

sr4b · November 2001

I'm addicted to your site and your reviews. They are on the mark. With your info., esp. the technique of blast faxing, I got a written offer from McKenna VW for $28,000 for a 2001.5 Passat GLX 4Motion. It was $1,000 less than any other dealer I had contacted by phone. We literally went there, test drove it, and did the paperwork. No games trying to bump us up because the offer was in writing.

passamv6 · November 2001

A local dealer is offering this price for: Fresco Green or Silverstone Grey (beige or grey interior)with luxury pkg, monsoon, homelink, no leather. Is this a decent price?

cupholder1 · November 2001

that's about $200 over dead invoice. that's a good deal.

mcpsdna2 · November 2001

In negotiating price on a 2002 Passat GLS , can I expect to pay 200-300 over invoice? I am in southern Cal. Any thoughts?

gr8cruiser · November 2001

I'm considering buying 2002 Passat 1.8T, manual, w/leather & monsoon..finally going to a dealer to test drive and see the colors. Closes dealer only seems to have beige, silver, and grey...but I'm thinking ink blue/beige leather or dark green/beige leather. Ink Blue, as well as the 5-speed manual seems especially difficult to find according to the vw sites local S. Florida inventory. Anyone having the same trouble?

Any personal experiences with buying through carsdirect.com...better deal than what the dealer will do directly?

im_brentwood · November 2001

I'd say that most any dealer will match their pricing,as long as you let them know that you'll buy if they meet it.

As far as colors go... Dark colors are not popular as a rule in FLorida (Im in Orlando and have a place in Aventura) Silver, Beige, White..etc. They all sell better and have better resale.

If you need to go dark, the Blue will be easier to resell/worth more $$ in the future than the green if Ihad to guess. Right now Blue beats Green.

Dealers? Who's that one in FtLauderdale with the German name... Gunther. Yeah.. Gunther seems to be the one todeal with down there. Kinda like Royal up here.

Bill

huiman · November 2001

Hi, all,

I'm new here. My wife is looking for a new VW. The largest VW dealer in Fairfax, Virginia asks for $24,945+Tag+Delivery+Tax for the above sedan. I went there on Monday and yesterday, I found something strange. The strange thing is the car I saw on Monday has mileage 505 and a sale person showed me that too. However yesterday I saw it have 165 mile. Therefore, the dealer may have severals in stock. I'm asking for a couple hundred dollar, say $500 less than that sticker price.

I have emailed and gone to several local dealers, and got a feeling that the overall price for any 2001 VW sedan must be at least couple of hundred dollars less than Edmund's True Market Value which is below its invoice. Even for 2002 VW sedans, $2000 less than the MSRP is normal here. My point is how low it can be for buying the above car. Is there any buyer at Greater DC area who has got true market value deal? Thanks for going to be be my market indicator. It's not necessary for the same deal we're looking for, any information on your excellent deal for 2001 VW New Passat V6 or Jetta V6 or 4Motion is welcome.

raybear · November 2001

Sounds about right, though you may have to shop around a bit. Remember there are extra fees the dealers pay, not just what you'll find here at Edmunds.

pamlac · November 2001

In the market for a new car and love the 02 Passat. Went to a VW Dealer to discuss pricing and wanted to negotiate from the dealer's actual cost (invoice-2% of msrp dealer holdback). The salesman said there was no holdback, then wanted me to pay 5% over invoice (26114 + 5% = 27419). True or False, is there a 2% VW holdback and is 27419 a good price on a 5speed Passat GLX? Edmunds says there is. Anyone else experience this?

vwguild · November 2001

Invoice is $26781.00...

Base Price = $26,114.00
Port Prep = $25.00
FPIR = $92.00
Destination = $550.00

Holdback is actually 3% minus Destination...

Holdback is generally not a negotiating point, unless the dealership has so many DOG CARS; they
cannot get out from under it all...They are over-
whelmed with Distress Merchandise, which is not
the case with the Passat GLX in any configuration.

If you go to the home page here you will be able to get Edmund's perspective and if you go to
www.vwvortex.com and click on *Forums* and then
*Volkswagen* and then "Passat B5" you will find
a *thread* titled *Is This a Good Deal?*. There you will find a reasonably succinct definition of
what *Holdback* is, and the way in which it is
dealt with as an accounting entry.

You might also want to check out Edmund's True
Market Value link on the home page.

mwalsh2 · November 2001

I should start by saying I've never purchased a car. I'm on my 3rd lease. I have made the decision to buy. I currently lease a 99 (old body) vw jetta. My lease doesn't run out until October 2002, but I only have 2,000 miles left and with my job i'll be lucky if that gets me to the middle of December 2001.

My questions: I want to buy a Passatt, manual transmission. I don't need any extras. Will VW make me finish my lease payments on my Jetta? They are only $255 and I have 10 left. I know if I go to another car maker they have offered to pay off my lease, buy I really want a VW.

Also, what is a good amount of money to put down?

cupholder1 · November 2001

and find out your payoff amount, then get an estimate on your current's car value (check out TMV and KBB). If your payoff is around the trade in value, it is your lucky day. But with all those miles, you're more likely "buried" (upside down), and will have to pay the difference to the dealer between what your car is worth and what the payoff amount is.

afk_x · November 2001

There is no way any other manufacturer is going to "pay off your lease"

The money has to come from somewhere.

cupholder1 · November 2001

has a payoff amount, just like a financed car. the term "lease payoff" refers to the cost of buying out the lease today, which means you now own the car. any dealership will do this, just like with a financed car. there really isn't any difference between the two.

when you owe more than what the dealer is willing to pay, you are upside down, and the leftover debt from the previous lease/finance is rolled over into the new lease/purchase.

g2g · November 2001

Hi everyone. I'm new and have been reading this forum regularly. I'm about to pull the trigger on a 1.8 Tip, luxury, leather, monsoon, Silverstone in So. Calif. I was quoted $500 over invoice, but they won't budge on $200+ advertising fee and $90+ "flooring" fee? Is this what everybody else had to pay? Thanks!

g2g

raybear · November 2001

That's right, those fees are real. I've seen better than $500 over, I just got one for $200 over in the Bay Area, of all places! Of course, that is $200 over the actual invoice, not the number you'd find at Edmunds or most internet sites.

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