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Bill
Those are often cars you can slap on eBay or sell privately and do quite well with..
If you cant make out well with the S60, lemme know...
Bill
It's going for $40,000 Silly!
Look in MMR!!!!!
Bill
But there is something about Jaguars that sets them apart. There are a number of other luxury sports sedans with very competant mechanicals and comfort like BMW and Mercedes which I like and respect as well. But for some reason over the years Jaguar seems to have a styling element that exudes sex:) From the old E-type to the XJ sedans and the new XK8's they have somehow been able to style and retain an almost voluptuous sex appeal.
I used to be into english cars, my first two cars were an English Ford Cortina and a Triumph TR250. I lived with and paid tribute to the Lucas electrical gods and the poor reliability of English cars. Jaguar suffered from this for years but was able to eventually improve quality and reliability in the 90's and thus their reputation and resale value.
But as I mentioned I cannot afford a nearly new one at this time and although a 96 or 97 sounds tempting I am not sure I can take the risk of any major potential maintenance on such an automobile with 50-60k on the clock. I'm pretty much blowing my budget on a %^#* 28k Volkswagon (still not sure if I should have gone for a used A6 Avant) and need the practicality of a wagon. Although for an XJR I might throw that out the window, LOL.
I envy you and your beautiful rides:)
FIgure out what you like... then go from there.
But I'd buy the 00. Think about it... $2,500 is a nice used Stainless Steel and 18kt Rolex men's datejust.
$2,500 is a nice family vacation....
$2,500 is the mother of all TV sets
$2,500 is a nice stereo system...
Or, for me, a few very nice covers (Stamp COllector thing)
See why I dont buy new cars?
Bill
And, IMO, they are more reliable than a Passat. Guess who got the #1 spot for initial quality in 98? Oh yeah... Jaguar!
Guess where VW was? Mid-Pack at best.
And I wouldnt worry about major stuff breaking... just the little, stupid things like cupholders, maybe an AC Vent or two and sometimes the power steering column tilt motors fail. Also on occasion the trunk lock keyhole can jam up...
But that's about it. These are very well made cars.
And, a low-mile (In the 40s) 96 XJR is worth about $21-23K wholesale.. A 97 is worth a bit more (Closer to $30K wholesale..) but I have few records on 96s selling.
Why not a 98 XJ8? A 45K mile one can be had for under $30K retail if you look... And it's one hell of a car. Or a 97 XJ6 and the mother of all extended warranties will still cost you less than that Passat....
That 2000 is worth about $52-53K easily IMHO... One of the few Edmunds is spot-on on.
Sleep on it..
Bill
To give you an idea of my size, I was not able to get a comfortable seating position in a Volvo V70, the power seat would not move back enough. I am able to be comfortable in a Passat, and among others I have sat in, an A6, a 325i wagon (snug fit though:), an Intrepid R/T(no I wouldn't buy one, especially new), and a Mercedes E class (better fit if it has telescopic wheel).
My budget limit is 28-30k. I've been mostly considering wagons because I have a large dog and they are practical as far as being able to carry stuff. I could always get another truck but I would much prefer driving something sporty. While I really do like the Passat, my biggest worry is long term durability and crappy dealer service. i don't change vehicles often and need something that will last but I am expecting more problems and maintenance with the VW vs a Honda or Toyota. I guess it's just a trade-off I am willing to live with for the fun of driving it.
Unfortunately my taste in automobiles far exceeds my budget,LOL. My perfect car would probably be S6 Avant. Although that XJR is so awesome maybe I'd remount the seat and cut a hole in the roof to fit in it:)
Anyway, now you have me looking in autotrader! Bad,bad,hehe
This is one of the few examples of a bad Ody. What year, how many miles, LX or EX, etc.? Most Ody owners could not be happier with a vehicle due to the comfort, performance, space, gas mileage, etc. of the 1999 and later Odysseys.
Terry.
Enjoy........
Terry.
what's $40,000 silly....??
Terry.
Can you elaborate on some of your posts. It is a little hard to follow all the post your are responding to. You mention two things in particular that caught my attention. One of them is that you express your surprise at how people drive hard bargins for cars that dont have good resale value and then you mention something about the Millenimum? I take it those Mazdas don't have good resale value and can be had cheaply even brand new. Your second comment is that you don't buy new and prefer new. Can you give some good buys for 2 year old midsize sedans under 20 grand. I don't think buying used Hondas or Toyotas are a good value for the price the charge, better to buy those cars new. Interested in hearing your opinion.
Leo
Glenn
So, enjoy your Volvo....I love those bugger's...
Terry....
Any, whats the going price for a 2000? The dealer has a few 2000 and 2001 with high miles (mid-20s). I think they are probably Boston Coach cars (a limo company that works in my area, they use the volvos as town cars). Look like 2.9s, with leather and roof.
Anyway, how low should one of these go, given the miles/history? Would you touch one for the right price?
I don't mind a higher mileage car, since I only do 7-8K a year, so in three years it will have averaged out to normal miles, and I should get the entire 4 year warranty coverage/
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The few, that I have seen are the 2000 I30T's...and they were in that $23,000/ $23,500 range....lower miles ..you know 7,000- 10,000 K...So, they are doing pretty good....Again, take it out for a couple of hour's ..and see what you think...I bought a 99 Infiniti Q45T for my uncle last month -- 13,000 K...White pearl/silver bottom...it was the only way, to get him out of the ugliest car on the road -- A Towncar -- and he loves it.......the new body design we saw at the Detroit Auto show ..was a Beauty... they should do real well with that......
Happy speeding tickets.....kidding
Terry
I will be looking for a couple of these ...this wednesday, one for me...and one for my dentist....99's are running in and around that $24,000/ $25,000++ .....and 2000's are in that $28,000 ish figure...... and the T6's are about $3,000 more........
Drive one..and see what you think...
Terry.
Any idea how to value a current year car with that many miles? I think MSRP on a new version would be just about 40K.
Dealer has them listed at $32,995 (not sure if they are certified). What ya think?
Another dealer2 hours away) listed a '00 with 28K for $26,995
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For you it is easy to make a decision to trade
on another vehicle...but for me it is better to keep it awhile or until it starts to give problems and then just bite the bullet and accept the loss.
Well anyway.......The Msrp with the heated seats, wheels, traction control, upgraded cd, etc..roll's just over $42,000.......but the point is, how much...?
I have to think...If the vehicle has that many miles....the $27,000 figure looks good ...try to tighten them up more toward's $25,000 ish figure..and see what happen's ---- and the 01's ....Me personally -- I would feel more comfortable ..around that $30,000/$31,000 number only because of the miles.....
Hey, you don't ask.....You don't get....good luck...
Terry.
At least youre not getting slaughtered on resale tho.
Bill
Silly... it's worth $53K!
Bill
Even I have trouble keeping up sometimes!
Basically, What I see a lot on here is that people dont do the proper research. Some people do not look at their total ownership costs. A Good deal on a new Sedan DeVille is not a good deal IMHO. Not when that car loses $20,000 in its' first year. But, for example, a Volvo S80, which doesnt have the kind of huge discounts on it that the Cadillacs or Lincolns have, will hold its' value far better than, say, a Continental and therefore be much cheaper to own over 3-4 years.
I'd say the real bargains in a 2-year old sedan would be a Mazda Millenia, we just retailed a 99 Millenia S with 36K miles, Black, 17" Momo Wheels, etc... Beautiful condition, for under $19K.
A 99 Cadillac Catera can be had for about $20K and is a very nice car, ditto a 98-99 Continental.
Mazdas are also a very good buy used, but the key is to get the car you like, and then decide how to buy it.
Hondas are very good buys new vs used, Camrys can save you a bit when they are 2 years old, but for many people the savings arent enough...
But find the car you like, and then, as a rough guide, look up KBB's "fair" trade in value on a 2-year-old one.
A Passat is a great example, never buy them used! Even though they usually dont have screaming deals on new ones... There's no sedan in its' class that even comes close to its' resale value.
Bill
She's gonna love that T5!
Bill
They dont have the resale of an ES300, however, you are also paying a lot less and I think it's a very nice looking car.
Bill
I'd give Montclair VOlvo (My old store) a call. 973-746-4500. Ask for Tom DeMarco (A bit of a charachter but you can get a good price from him).
You can get one for $27-28K and, IMHO, a screaming deal. they are Boston Coach cars, but the ones that Volvo dealers buy are from closed sales and are inspected for frame damage or paintwork before they are auctioned. Also, they are very well maintained and they are highway miles.
And get a Silver one too.... They're out there.
Bill
Bill
Themn 2000s are doing $25K or so at the closed sales at Manheim... way cheaper than theyre doing at Central FL, Tenn or GA Dealers...
Bill
They're usually cheaper than anyone else in the state on those cars. Their UC Manager, a guy named Frank Lupo always buys stuff right and tries to flip it quickly. He's a hell of an asset to that store.
And Terry, those are called "Arrakis" Wheels. And, speaking of S80s...My T-6 has everything BUT them. Well, Mom drives it but I leased it.. sigh...
Yeah... I like em
ANd MSRP on one of those Boston Coach cars was $39,575 with metallic. (No 17" WHeels but they have cold weather).
Speak of the Devil you sure you werent at the Volvo Store in Winter Park yesterday???
Bill
My coworker has a 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan SE she needs to sell or trade. It has 63000 miles, dual A/C, luggage rack, CD player, upgraded wheels, built-in child seats, as well as the usual stuff. Color is dark green. Car is in South Florida.
How much is fair for a trade?
How about fair sale to a consumer?
Thanks!
Leo
Terry.
Drove the car at lunch. Very nice, think I'm going to go for it (much nicer than a new Maxima, not much more $). It's a 2001, 22K, and I think I can get it for $30,000 even.
I talked to montclair (about 1.5 hrs. away). They just sold a '00, 29K miles for 27,000.
Per the dealer, residual at 3 years/15 per on a new one would be about 23K, so with the miles I put on, I can pretty much drive the car 3 years for about 7K in depreciation.
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Suburu's are ..Very.. strong up in the north....I mean it blow's me away what they were doing last week.... --- See, in Fl, you cant give them away.....that doesn't make them bad vehicles... --- it's we don't get much snow there...l...o...l....
So, don't be afraid of the heated seat's, mirror's and wheels....you will get a bunch back when you sell it.....they don't last long in the paper's ... that's for sure..
I hope this help's....
Terry.
Bill, I'm talking about the - 2000 Jag XK8 convertible...carnival and cashmere...with 5,400 klick's on it....I bid up to $59,950....the vehicle sold for $62,250......
....If this thing, is still on ...Contact Bill....l...o..l.....
Terry.
Well whatever you end up with...let us know
Terry.
Find out what engine it has if you can... 3.0..3.3...3.8...
Bill
TO me I'd get the Loaded one only because I cannot live without Heated seats. And, do you likethe options? If so, it's a no-brainer. From the sounds of things, you are going to put nearly 200,000 miles on this car.... better do it right I say!
If you can swing it, go for it!! Those heated seats alone are really nice!
Bill
I like Subarus. Kinda nonconformist cars... good in the snow, durable, safe, etc...
They arent boringmobiles. Personally, I really like that new H-6 with the McIntosh stereo!
Bill