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I will go back to the dealer Monday and try to get the car. Trouble is the sales guy said the $14,7 price was only good for Sunday, otherwise it goes back to the asking sticker on the car which is 14,985. Can the dealer go back on the agreed price if I come back 1-day later ? Just wondering tho'
I suppose the worst I could do is fork over another $300 to make the difference b/w Sunday and Monday price. Kinda suck to have to do that tho'. Will see how it goes Monday, assuming the car is still there.
Will update after the deal is done.
- "Can they do that" (raise price again $300): Sure they can. It's their car, they can do anything they like. I'd try for the Sun price again, or split the difference.... but really, price should still be good. No manuf. incentives on used...
- It is enirely up to you,if and how you rub it in to the Mrs. But it might be a good idea to come out of this the designated car decision maker...
Having lit the fuse, I remain,
-Mathias
Mathias is dead on, If the -history- is fine, then even $1,000 wouldn't make a difference - If I, was to run that puppy through the Riverside auction this week, it probably would do the mid $14's .. you are in wholesale land, not La La land .. ;-)
Good luck and let it rock ...
Terry.
Terry :-))
Palacial (sp?) estate, near the cradle of civilization. Beautiful view of the Tigris River. Natural lighting courtesy of the US military.
Seller not responsible for cleanup of depleated uranium ordinance residue. Any WMD's are to be turned over to US or British military upon discovery.
TB
I finalized deal on Lotus Carlton.
Hey OAC...
WHY HAVE YOU NOT BOUGHT THAT MATRIX YET YOU SILLY? Buy it or I'm afraid it's off to your room.
Bill
"Hello eBayers! Here's a really neat item! We just got this castle in on trade against a brand new cemetary and it's ready to go. It is a fixer-upper special and will need a few minor things but here on eBay it's at WHOLESALE!"
(enter dancing bear gifs or other such nonsense)
BUY IT NOW FOR ONLY $199,999!!!
DONT LET THIS DEAL GET AWAY! BID HIGH AND BID OFTEN!
Payment by check, cash, Iraqi Dinars or PayPal.
TB
Yes we did buy the Matrix. Will pick it up tonight. But that is the short part. Here is the long part. Ready ???
Got into the dealership at noon today (PDT). The salesguy talked to the head honcho manager, and comes back to me. Here goes our conversation:
Sales guy: "The boss will like us to have some fun selling you this car"
So I am curious what is up. I perked up my chin, wondering what he has up his sleeves...
Sales guy: "The boss says, why not flip a coin for the price. Your call."
Me: "What price are we talking about ?"
Sales guy: "14,7 or 14,985."
Me: "Really ?" (by this time I am thinking, why the heck ??)
I said OK. But on my condition. Best 2-of-3 coin flips decides the price.
So the manager walks in with a quarter. He does three flips, I called, and guess what. I LOST 2-of-3. So I ended up paying 14,985. My OTD was $16,339.
That was a "flip" ! Literally.... Couldn't believe my eyes it was happening. A first for me. Coin flip deciding price of a car. The manager said either way I win, cos they are not making anything on the sale price. I accepted the offer because of all you good people told me it was a good buy at 14,9. I hope so. I think so. I know so ????
Anyway, the car was a trade-in for an '03 325i. I checked carfax. It was squeaky clean. Everything is as it should be. It had all the mats/cargo cover, including cargo net and all the accesories. No dents, bruises, kisses, or invasion of freedom fries. Two sets of keys, 2 fobs (with alarm) and valet key. At 14,985, it is a sweet deal. I cannot wait to pick the car up tonight.
This is car numero 3. Our other two are a '99 LS and an '01 Sequoia. My wife and I will have trouble deciding which car to drive to work, cos I will much prefer the Matrix than my LS for everyday work car, but I know the spouse already is thinking the Matrix is hers in place of the Seq for daily work commute.
Ahh.... America the beautiful. This is a wonderful country of ours, to have such a mundane problem of car choice.... I love the USA.
Sorry for the long post.
Enjoy ..... !
Terry.
Anyway, I've got a Shadow that's been a great car for the last 11 years but I think it is time to trade up. I know the trade in value can't be much but here goes:
1992 Dodge Shadow ES Convertible
77,000 miles
V-6, 5-speed
Most power options, CD changer
Black paint, and in very good shape.
Never been hit or damaged; I've even replaced that oft-forgotten timing belt. It's been smoked in but putting that top down kept the smell from getting too embedded. Any thoughts on the value of this beast would be appreciated.
I'm wondering if you'll give me some idea about my trade-in potential:
2002 Accord V6-EX Coupe, 26.5k, Black/gray leather, rear spoiler, good condition, one door ding, a couple of bumper scuffs, some wear on the driver's side floormat, it's had all the scheduled maintenance, car's in the Boston area. I'm considering moving into an 01 or 02 S2000 (figured I'll lower my practicality for a boost in fun). Thanks!
I'd say throw it in the paper.. ask $2K or BO and it oughta sell if it's clean I think. Should see ya $1500 or so.. maybe a bit more. Cheap ragtops in clean shape with low miles? 1 Owner? Yeah that oughta sell.
What say you T-Man?
Well that's a hit Im afraid. And then it has bumps... Hmm...
$14,500 to perhaps $15K.
Bill
Drew
I would get the car maintenance up to date, give it a good detail. Then contact the people at www.allpar.com (Mopar gearhead web site) and associated web sites. That is a car that you will probably do better if you get the word out to people who go nuts over those cars.
FYI Geo Metro convertables in the spring bring $2,000 if they have under 100K and run good up here.
I would try a good detail and make sure all maintenance is documented. Have a mechanical inspection. Then advertise it at $3995. Put the ad like this:
One owner 92 Dodge Shadow Convertable. Super clean. Ready to drive. Mechanical inspection and maintenance up to date. A must see $3995. Cash talks.
Hoping you could give me some insight on pricing. It's one of those smaller used car only type dealers.
Here's the details I have...
Carfax certified
113k mi, dk green 4dr auto trans.
Power windows, locks, steering, brakes
A/C, most of the standard stuff.
No slider, no leather.
They asking 5850. Going to go look tomorrow and see whats up, hopefully you can respond before I make an offer if I like it.
Thanks terry.
Now, I don't know much about the Auburn spring fest .. but it's a V6 (Mitsu motor) it only has 70k, it's a convert and Spring has sprung -- you say it's in good shape, trade side maybe $500/$900 .. so with a Great detail, deep sneakers, a new timing belt and a great 5 liner Ad .. I'm thinkin' $3,900 down Retail Rd and let some nice bikini glad lady take it home for $2,5/$3,5 ..
Terry.
I'm guessing here, but I have a feeling he probably got the vehicle via ABC Toyota/Honda on a trade (which is fine) .. probably paid $3,5/$4,0 for it, to put the deal together. So, a this and a that brings it to $4,0/$4,5ish, I would think they would cut it from the herd for $4,9/$5,5 ...
Terry.
Seller not responsible for cleanup of depleted uranium ordinance residue. Any WMD's are to be turned over to US or British military upon discovery. ***
TB
____________________
If interested, we can meet up in this real nice, quaint restaurant down the street in the Mansour section of town around 1:00 pm ... l.o.l..
Terry. :-))
Yesterday I looked at a nice and I mean nice, 1999 Chrysler T&C LXI, 54k, AWD, leather, captain's chairs, bun warmers, everything, it was red/gray, wasn't a mark on the van, it was so clean it still smelled new. Dealer's asking $16,900.
Only other one I saw that I liked was a 2000 Grand Caravan Sport, gray/gray, 60k, nice van, loaded up with all the right stuff, no leather, but quad captains and it was AWD. It was great except that someone tried to put an aftermarket center console and drilled holes all the way through the floor, you can see the ground. Um, no thanks. Dealer's asking $18,995. YEOWZA!!!
There are a couple others in Anchorage, but all are 2000 T&C's LXI, AWD, miles in the 50k range and priced around $19k.
I'm starting to think a new Kia Sedona is looking good.....just kidding.....but I may end up with a Honda Accord or something if I get fed up enough with the minivan search.
Jolie.....*muttering to herself about used car prices in mooseland*
1.) an asking price.
2.) a liking price.
3.) and a taking price.
I'm sure you can get into the taking price range .. :-)
Terry.
My mom and I were out car shopping yesterday, she's a riot to take a long......got her going on the Jag X-type that was sitting in one show room.....heck, all we could afford was the hood ornamant.....lol.
Terry (rroyce)
Mathias
ghulet
bill (brentwoodvolvo)
for their help and support on my purchase of the '03 Matrix. You all do a fantastic job around here, and all the kudos to you.
Thanks so much. Deeply appreciated.
Yes, Bill I can come out of the room now since I closed the deal
it has a lot of miles: 210K, but almost all of it is from freeway driving.
the passenger power windows are somewhat quircky (lexus said it would cost about $120 to fix)
and one speaker finally gave out.
I was looking to sell it myself and am targeting about $6300(edmunds says 6500 for PPV), but no one seems to be interested. is this too high?
thanks.
210K even on a Lexus makes it hard to sell. Most banks won't loan on a 200K, 12 year old car, even a Lexus. Those that will are in the teens on interest rate 18%.
If $6300 is not generating interest in your area, it probably is too high. Try pulling the ad for a week and then relist the car. Fix the little stuff, get a good detail. Advertise it like this:
92 Lexus LS400. Drive in luxury. Take it home for $5995. Cash talks. Call for details and to set up a time to test drive. ###-####
Your friend can go right to his bloody room! (Sorry, just got back from England)
There's loads of these out there.. I mean, you can pick em up with 40-50K miles at the auction for $5800-6300.. so I think $7500-$8K ought to get you one bought retail. So what's this car gonna do at the sale? $4500-4800. So $6K-6300ish should get it done retail. So what are ya saving for it having more miles on it than a 2000 Model Cessna?
"Commercial Lease Vehicle" means "Oogotz". It means it was leased.. Commercial is because it was titled in the leasing company's name.
Bill
Too bad about the coin toss, but ya still swiped it for cheap.
You can come out of your room now. I think we gotta let your wife stay in there until she pays ya back the $285 plus tax she owes you
Try more like $5K retail.. you can ask $6300.. but then I can ask $30,995 for a 1998 XJ8 as well.
Neither price is gonna get it done. This might be a good eBay car methinks..
It's NOT a Buy-Here Pay-Here car at ALL!!!!
Bill
thanks guys!
btw: how does ebay work? sounds complicated and problematic....
What are these Saab's doing at Auction in SoCal.
2000 95 SE V6 25-35k Clean Silver/Frost Gray
2000 95 SE I4 25-35k Lth/mnrf Clean Silver
Would most of these be lease returns?
Thanks for your help...JD
It was auctioned and is at a local used car guy who likes these kinds of cars - asking price is $9900, which seems way too high, but I told him I'd ask you folks what the auctions out here in Calif are doing on a car like this.
He's in Lodi, CA - think SF Bay Area.
Thanks in advance.
Chicago area.
Is this a good deal ? Located in Syracuse NY.....
At a Benz dealer........
2000 Chrysler Sebring Convert. $12,000 plus tax &tag
18k miles, V-6, auto, air. tilt, cruise, power goodies,
cloth guts, chromies, ruby red, tan. NOT a JXi? tho.
no leather, bun warmers, or CD player.
Not a scratch on it....1 geezer owned, traded it
for a new Benz 4 door, no smoke, clean car-fax,
not a rental, lease, or lemon buyback.......
Thanks All...........geo
BTW: Any simular ones 99-00 private party ones
are going for 14-16k with more miles. But they
are Jxi's? tho.
99 Chev. Cavalier CONVT. Z-24, 4 cyl., auto, loaded out,
Leather , full power, White, tan,guts, 18k miles......
Clean car fax, Not a rental etc....Its having a birthday on
the lot salesman sez. $10k cash money OTD price. I would
rather have a GM but no like 4 bangers.
That Chrysler is nice tho................geo
BTW: Woman stingy with the keys to the Cadillac so I
wanted another Corvette...She says: "drive your
truck !" But can't carry the woman
AND the kids so its a 4 seater for me......BUMMER
Thanks in advance.
the guys can help you with the real deal price.
Tell them where you live tho. it makes a
difference in the price.
Or they will send ya to your room !.......lol
1> Car still under warranty 4/50
2> 6spd MT
3> Coupe
Other than that sounds decent, kinda high miler for under a year old. I would guesstimate that you could get 25/26 on a private party sale and probably 23/24 on a trade. (TMV on a new one is about 29k) Terry will probably be able to help ya out, but you gotta get more info in here bud.
Color, interior/exterior condition should help ya get a better "quote". good luck.
What do you think? (in northern nj - nyc metro area)
- Lou
Drew
It's important to me, right or wrong, to do the break-in myself, to know the car hasn't idled 20 minutes every morning in the cold, etc.
This reflects my personal hangups, not the cash value of the car you're looking at.
Drew: That 3.0 Mitsu V6 has a problem with oil burning. They run a loooong time, but when they get towards 150k, they start trailing blue smoke. What you do is run heavier-weight synthetic oil (20W50? -- I forget) and the problem is much reduced. Buddy of mine did this on a $1000 hooptie minivan some years back, worked great. Just in case your 92 is showing signs of it, even with the lower miles...
Ever the collector of meaningless minutiae, I remain
-Mathias
So what does that mean, let's say a dealer pays $16,0 for it, you have transport, you have some service, you have a detail, a little this, a little that, by the time they are done they might have have $16,5+ in it, a "fair" price for both might be $18ish ..
I hope this helps ...
Terry.
FWIW, a local Honda dealer gave me a ballpark number of $23k, which is right in line with your initial estimate.