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Terry.
Terry.
The bad news is, we have some rust going on and rust never sleeps .. we have umpteen miles for a 00, you have umpteen miles for a 1990 .. tranny sounds like it may be going bye bye, the inside sounds like it has been under mortar fire and the outside sounds like it may have been a test area for the Marines, other than that everything is going your way. I dunno, sounds like about a $2,5/$3 grand vehicle to me ...
Terry.
Just gotta go pick the car up tomorrow morning.
This one has no miles, the right color for the area, leather and both sliders .. so if it's a Clean one, seats look hovered in, no I run my SUV through the "grind o' matic" car wash, no test patterns from the local soccer team .. then trade side you should be seeing the mid $18's, "might" "could" see the low low $19's if it glows in the dark and needs -0- ...
Unless there is a big tax savings, me personally, I would be taking this one for a stroll down Retail Rd, $21,900 in the paper and cut it from the herd for $21,0 to the first yuppie with cash ..
I hope this helps ....
Terry.
Terry.
Terry.
Terry :-)
Steve
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Let's just say it's a bare bones 4wd ..
No miles and it's a brand new 02 untitled MSO vehicle .. right .? ~~ sniff sniff sniff sniff, hmmm, I smell a Canadian vehicle here, check it out and let me know, can't have more than $16/$17 in it ..
BK Mitsu dealers inventories go to other Mitsu dealers, something is up ...
Terry.
Terry.
Don't feel bad, I never win anything either.
I just bought 5 last week with all the stuff, 2 with the roof, wheels, tunes .. paid $32,0 for them with double nickels for miles, the ones with 20k are doing "around" $29/$30,0 .. so figure the Caddy dealer will have to add the auction fee $300, transport $250, Certification $700(?) a little this and that $400 .. and has to make at least a $1,500 profit .. this should at least give you a real good idea.
Terry.
Yup, brand new 02, untitled, MSO???, full warranty vehicle. If it's Canadian, would it have KPH speedometer? Would it show up on CARFAX? According to dealer, it was a CN Mitsu store that went under. Was the $16-17K you mentioned based on a Sport model? The 25K ask price sounded a bit stiff, especially with Mitsu offering big cash and low APR's on the 03's. This is an oddball situation for sure, so I'm guessing the usual sources (Edmund's, KBB, NADA) will offer less then typical help. This dealer comes highly referred. But, you definitely have me increasing power to the deflector shields.
As always, thanks for the input.
MSO - Manufacturers Statement of Origin ..
Grab the Vin# and have it run at a Mitsu store .. you are looking for the "port of entry" .. could have had the speedo clocked, ask to see the title, check for a maple leaf in the drivers door jam and a Carfax ..
If all is well, then he has "around" $19/$20 in it, plus the stuff, .. no one is beating the doors down on these, except our "close friends" over in the Persian gulf area, they seem to love em', sent about 20 over there via the Miami port in the last 2 years .. $22/$23 would be about all the money you would want to pay with no toys, the miles save this one ...
Let me know ....
Terry.
What might I expect for the Dodge Caravan on trade?
Are the Cooper S' a hot number at the auction?
But Im considering used to lower the total cost. Used Foci dont have a good rep. Saturns have been growing on me, my sister has had good luck with her 97 SC1. The SL sedans appeal to me and 2-3 yr old ones are everywhere. I found these advertised at dealers:
01 Saturn SL 5 speed, blue, gray int. 30k miles, AC, CD and nothing else, $5495.
00 SL2, dark purple (blackberry),black interior, 5 speed, AC, PW, PL, PM, CD, cruise, keyless, alloys, 32K, $7995.
Do these prices sound reasonable, high, low? Im in Columbus Ohio.
And just to stay on topic, what if anything is the trade-in value of a 94 Escort GT, 132K, automatic trans., black, moonroof, AC, PW, PM, cassette stereo, good shape?
Someone is gonna get a steal...arrghhh!
On your '94 Escort, I'm sure it's nice, so you should sell it on your own. You'd probably be offended (as would I) over what the dealer would offer ($500-1500).
Terry.
1998 Ford Ranger XLT Extended Cab - 3.0 V6 - Black over Gold color with Tan Cloth Bucket Seats and 5 Spd Manual Trans. 70,000 miles. New Goodrich white letter tires on Alum. Wheels. Bedliner. Tow Package. A/C and all power. Would rate as above average with no damage. Only problems are broken armrest on console and broken passenger seat slide lever. Well maintained on maintenance schedule. Zip code is 79414 (Lubbock, Texas). Any advice appreciated. Jim
'91 Toyota Camry DX, Auto, Blue, 90K miles, 2nd owner, better than average shape. Southern California vehicle. Driven for the last 10 years by a little old lady (mom), who averaged about 4500 miles a year.
I'm thinking they should slap a $3500 price tag on it, and take $2800.
Right now, a 02 "S" with 3/4k with all the bells and whistles are doing in and around the $21ish figure .. 03's with 2/3k are doing "around" the $21/$22ish, I have seen them do as high as the $23 figure depending on the color.
When you say it's a base Caravan, you mean it's a 4 banger too .. right.? - miles are waaay stiff, sounds like a $2,5/$3,0 vehicle to me .. might want to take this one down Retail Rd, you know the drill ~ a great detail, proper service, super duper Ad ~ $5,900 in the paper and say "hasta la vista" at the first $4,0/$5,0 ...
Terry.
Good luck ....
Terry.
Saturns are all over the place and you should be able to pick em' up cheap, especially 5 speeds .. the 01 seem's fine, the 00 SL2 would make everyone feel better at around $7,0 .. the GT, Tons of miles, I agree with Zues .. a nick, maybe a ghee whiz on the same day that Venus aligns with Neptune.
I hope this helps ...
Terry.
If it's a clean one, no Popeyes chicken in the back seat, no 200 cases of spent beer in the liner .. down Retail Rd, $7,500 in the paper and snatch the first $6,0/$7,0 ..
Let me know .....
Terry.
$29,000 .. thats a fair price, a very fair price -- IF, someone is shoving a AK47 down your throat .. gheeez. I'm paying $23ish for the ones with the miles in the teens and these are the "glow in the dark", the super cleans, Jam-up and jelly tight ones .. You need to have a "Come to Jesus" meeting with this guy and offer him $25, $26 if he does all the right stuff and makes it right ... $29 .? I have no fear, and even I would never ask that much ...
I hope this helps ....
Terry :-)
I am in the process of buying a new Honda Accord. After negotiating a price that I'm satisfied with, I decided that it might be worth it to forego a few extra bucks that I might be able to make in a 3rd party sale by trading my current car (1989 Accord LXi coupe) and saving myself the aggravation of trying to sell it on my own. I looked up the info on Edmunds and Kelley Blue book ($1,500 trade/$2,100 3rd party sale). However, the Honda dealer will only give me $700 in trade. Is the dealer just trying to make an additional $800 in profit on my trade, or are the Edmunds and Kelley values just meaningless? I realize that with a car of this age, the dealer will be selling to a wholesaler rather than selling the car himself, but shouldn't this already be reflected in the Edmunds and Kelley quoted values?
Here are the specifics:
1989 Accord LXi coupe, Monterey Green, automatic, clean inside and out, 153K miles, Albany NY
Any insights would be much appreciated.
If you post a few more details about your vehicle he'll give it his best shot at fair values private sell & trade-in. He spends ALOT of time actually buying cars at auction then selling 'em. He knows that certain colors/options make certain cars FAR less desirable than the simple formulae say...
SO your covered year, make, model. Terry will need options (everything you can thing of, because some years an LXi means on thing and others another). COLOR. MILES. CONDITION (especially of the PAINT & damage from collisions/other body work).
As to where TMV comes from, well the good people at Edmunds have a trademark on that secret, but word is the sample some stats from auctions private sellers, lenders.
Finally, KBB is the same sort of PROPRIETARY system. They have their own spies at the same places Edmunds does. They have a product that is PRINTED, so there some lead time.
One - a car is worth what it's worth on any given day. Tomorrow, that used car manager will have a neighbor's daughter looking for nice used car like your Accord.
Two - auto value guides still don't buy cars for what they list. Terry (rroyce) can't wait until the on-line guides have a link that says "sell us your car"!!
None of this is a knock on any car or any guide - just the reality of the market.
Between $27K and $28K. How many Tag Hauers should there be in the glove box???
Terry--if you can help me with some reasonable pricing info, I would much appreciate it. I am not looking to make a fortune , but by the same token, I resent being 'taken' by a dealer.
Here's some info on my car--I have been the only owner, and live in Albany, NY. The car runs great--no mechanical problems that I know of--it's just time for a new car.
1989 Honda Accord LXi coupe, 153K miles
Monterey green with beige cloth interior
Automatic, 4 cyl,A/C, power steering, power windows, tilt, cruise control, am/fm/cassette
Interior: SPOTLESS
Exterior: One spot of rust (silver-dollar-sized)below the fuel door; One small dent on the hood (overzealous mechanic tried too hard to close it)
My guess is that it falls somewhere between 'good' and 'excellent' on the KBB scale.
That's about all I can come up with. thanks again for your help.
It really is a car for retail road.
First thing, get it to a good mechanic for a COMPLETE mechanical inspection. Include ALL maintenance records as well when people come to look at the car. Deep in rubber, no mechanical problems, all maintenance up to date, maybe start at $1900 and take the first $1200 or greater offer. No maintenance records, not deep in rubber, any mechanical failings, I say trade it in; but try and get a couple of hundred more.
No matter what the guides say, a 15 year old car with 153K on it, some rust, minor dents, even a Honda is a tough one to sell.
What say you Terry?
I'm looking for the trade-in value for my 2001 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4x4. There's about a $2k difference between KBB and NADA, so I'm not sure which one is closer. Here's the stats:
Miles: 32,000
Options: Bose/sunroof pkg, Auto trans, tow pkg, 4 yr/60k extended warranty
Color: Sierra Beige
Location: Wisconsin
Condition: Excellent - did have side collision, but no visible signs of repair (at least to un-trained eyes)
Am I required to disclose to a dealer that it's been in an accident if they don't ask me? I remember a few years ago a salesperson telling me..."if they don't ask, don't tell".
Thanks a bunch!
* 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 dually Club Cab
* Cummins diesel
* automatic transmission
* SLT package: power windows/locks/mirrors, leather steering wheel, frigid AC
* full-size rubber bed mat, no rust underneath
* Infinity AM/FM/cass w/aux CD capabilty
* 3.54 axles, limited-slip, no tow pack
* full length running boards (diamond plate)
* forged aluminum wheels (all 6)
* Michelin commercial-duty LTX, deep rubber (1 year old, 13K on tires)
* new stainless steel exhaust
* full rear mud flaps
* 88,000 miles
* flawless black paint, no dents or bodywork
* Driftwood (aka beige) premium cloth interior
* north NJ
* dealer-serviced - all records on file
Go for it, Terry!
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2001 Toyota Tundra, red/tan, SR5, 4wd, x-cab, V8, auto, 49k, pwr win/locks/mirrors, a/c, am/fm/cd, knee deep in rubber, good looking truck. Dealer's asking $24,900. Seems high to me since you can go down the road and get a new one for $28k. What's a good price for him to offer?
Ok stud boy here we go .. we have a 89 Honda Accord LXI, color is uh just ok, it's a coupe, so no help there, we have a 153k lotsa miles, but it's a 1 owner and you know the guy, no slider - right.? .. it's an auto with the power stuff, so you got some help there, but we have a little rust and rust never sleeps ...
By the way, there is no such thing as an Excellent condition in a vehicle, unless your driving a 02 SC430 with 4k on the clock, right color and it "glows in the dark" ..
All righty then, if this dude is ultra nice and clean, service is 100%, then $700 might be a little light, maybe a ghee whiz, "maybe" $1,200 if everything is going your way .. but I have a feeling you might not get a dealer to stretch that far, this dude is auction bound and he want's to cover his end ..
Me personally, I wouldn't even bother with a trade, this a Great candidate for Retail Rd .. a super clean and detail, a super great Ad in the paper, all the service records on the front seat and $2,900 in the paper and cut it loose for $2,1/$2,500, this one won't last long .. everyone is lookin' for a nice clean driver for someone - I'm surprised that Mathias hasn't contacted you by now .l.o.l...
Good luck and let me know ...
Terry.
01 Tundra, V8 SR5, 4x4, Ecab, auto, 49 klicks, right color and new sneakers .. I can't say about Alaska, but in the lower 48 they get stupid $$ all the time .. sounds like $18/$19 too me, but I wouldn't be surprised if they put $20 in it, I saw a few run last week and they hit $20 and they had 50/55k and it hasn't snowed up north in months, well at least weeks and weeks .. $25 ..? naaaw, maybe $21,9/$22,9 ..
Terry :-)
Terry :-)
Anyway, thanks on the Tundra, that's what I thought. Was in there with the Chevy and asked them off hand what they would give me for it (was waiting for my friend to come back), they floored me with $3500. I asked them if they were nuts???
Ok, a couple others, we are on the hunt for a beater truck, our 94 Chevy is far too nice to be bouncing down the back trails.
Its a 1994 Chevy K3500, reg cab, green/tan, no tailgate, fair condition, needs tires, 6.5L TD, manual trans, 4wd, silverado, pwr windows/locks, am/fm/cass, 146,638 clicks. The guy is asking $6900 (private owner) and since we saved so much on our car purchase....hehehe, I'm thinking about tossing $5k his way and trying to take this beast home. What say you? Am I too light on my offer? It looks pretty leaky and beat up, but would work for what we need.
Its either that one or hubby found a 93 T100, V6, manual trans, reg cab, longbed, 4wd, 108k, black/tan, in fairly good shape. Asking $6995.
Got to get a second truck that he can beat on, I need the 454 all summer for pulling my horse trailer and so he doesn't trash it in the woods.
Welcome to our ever expanding used car lot, lets see, we have my dad's 83 GMC 1-ton, runs but doesn't go, our 94 Chevy, our 85 Jeep, runs when it feels like it, and our 01 Corolla.
Also drove 2 Saturns today, a bare-bones SL and an SL1 with some options. I like how they ride and take corners - much better than my wifes Cavalier and not what I expected. Im leaning towards one of these.
Of course the barren SL ran perfectly while the nicer SL1 had the shimmmies and pulled. Assuming a tire balance and pressure check cures that. Its an 00 SLI, 28K, 5 speed, dark bronze out, tan in, AC, CD, PW, PL, PM, spoiler, keyless, alloys. Im thinking mid 6's would be a price to brag about.
Thanks again for the help - and the always entertaining and informative topic.