Real-World Trade-In Values

pgill · December 2003

Terry -

Just to let you know, my friend got $13k for his black 2002 Acura RSX auto with 42k miles. He traded it in for a 2004 TL and he got $2k off MSRP on that so he was pretty happy with the overall deal. Thanks for your help.

Peter

nickelj · December 2003

Terry,

I previously posted this, but I think this scrolled off your radar-screen over the holiday.

2001 Audi S4
Silver
Black Leather Interior
6 Spd
30,000 miles
Excellent Condition
Scheduled Maintance (4yr/50,000 Mile thru 11/2004)
Audi Assured Warrenty (7yr/100,000 Mile thru 11/2007)
Winter tires 30% worn
Summer tires 70% worn

Any rumblings on trade-in & private sale value?

Thanks for your help,
-Jeff

buckeyedavep · December 2003

Any thoughts on what to expect on trade in for a 2000 Odyssey LX?

52k miles, stone silver metallic, roof rack, new tires & front brakes in last 5k miles, average condition (small scratch on right front bumper, right mirror, typical wear in carpet) in Akron Ohio.

Thanks for your help!

steine13 · December 2003

..so I'm, like, really, honestly, "just looking" at the lot that I happen to know is a wholesaler for the local BMW/Mercedes/Audi/VW/Subaru store... and even though I should know better, these catch my eye:

1993 Audi 100 S
114k miles, auto, fwd, dk gray metallic, cloth, clean car but not spectacular, good carfax, 3 owners but first 100k in 3 years, then apparently toy car for people around here... or in the shop the whole time, who knows.

1996 Audi A6 quattro
135k miles, auto, pearl white, blk leather, very clean looking. Also had three owners, but started life in New Orleans... that's better than MI any day of the week.

Both cars have a "sticky" driver's door latch -- why can't Audi build door lock mechanisms? A problem since 1983... Vorsprung durch Technik my foot...

Neither car HAS A SINGLE VIN STICKER on the body panels or doors. Huh? Both repainted? I thought that was a requirement??? If the gray one is a repaint, it ain't recent... and it doesn't look like bolts were turned, so go figure.

They also have a car that one of our post-docs should buy; this one looks like a deal:

1999 Mazda Protege LX
99k miles, 5sp, pwr this/that, AC, alloys. Some goldish/gray metallic color; very clean-looking car. Local, one-owner car.

I talked with the dealer; he said he marked the Protege down from $4,9 to $4,2 and has had it for a while; would let it go for less. Sounds good to me.

Anyway, the Protege is going to get bought by a friend, I think, unless it turns out to be a rat.
The Audis I need the way I need mumps, but it'd be nice to have one as a hobby car and I may drive these just to see how I like it... my other car is reliable, so I'm okay there... what I really need is a life. Or better yet, a pole barn with space for a half dozen cars!

TIA,
-Mathias

rroyce10 · December 2003

..... Hey, it's kind of tough to reach the keys to the computer when I go from a 32 waist to a 40 waist .. Ya gotta kind of wait til' all that food settles, I think by Wednesday I should be back to maybe a 33 ..

Terry.

akangl · December 2003

Ugh, yup, I know that feeling, I think I went up 2 sizes. Of course working it off now with having to haul firewood.

Its -32 and dropping right now, supposed to be -40 tonight......brrrrrr.

rroyce10 · December 2003

..... 93 100 S, 115k (no Quattro, right.?) color is ok for the year, probably could see $1,5, could very easily see $2,2 if it has "eyes" and runs strong, miles save this one .. somebody would probably pay $4ish for it on the retail side.

1996 Audi A6 Quattro
135k miles, auto, pearl white, blk leather, very clean looking. Also had three owners, but started life in New Orleans: ~

Scary ..! .. did you ever see anyone in New Orleans walk a straight line at 8:30am, gheez they didn't even bother to go out til' midnite ..l.o.l. sounds like $3,5ish, $4,0 .. don't worry about those latches, it's the same problems you guys had with the "ooondersea boots", they should have it worked out by Dec 7th, 2041 .....

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           The 99 Protege', these are pretty nice and reliable, new body style .. 100k, it's an LX, no slider, no abs, but we have the wheels and it's a meat clever .. probably paid $2,5ish for it, add a this and a that, maybe sittin' at $3grand, $4,2 isn't bad, maybe $3,9 .?

           Wanna buy a few turkeys.. Cheap ..?

                 Terry

rroyce10 · December 2003

...... I really don't know how to answer that question, maybe I have had too many Honey Baked ham sandwiches today ...

       Carmax is like any other type dealer .. and based on their location, time of the year, they can be buying anything .. the Carmax dealer in southern FL might be looking at Miata's this week and the one in Baltimore might be looking at 4x4 Yukons, it's hard to say ..

               I don't know if I answered your question or not, besides NY and Tenn are all tied up as of this post, what will happen in the next hour could be anything ... Goooo NY ..!

                     Terry.

skym · December 2003

I live in Sacramenton and I'd like to get an estimate on the trade-in value for 2 cars I own:

1. 1996 Toyota Celica 2 door liftback: RED
   71K miles; excellent mechanical condition, only
      has needed routine maintanence
   Paint chips on front hood, spoiler is oxidized,
      5-6 door dings;
   Needs 4 new tires
   AM/FM/Cassette
   power steering
   Power windows
   Moon roof
   Driver's air bags
   A/C
    Cloth seats and interior -- excellent condition

2. 1990 Lexus ES250
   101K miles; good mechanical condition, minor oil leak (dealer says not worth repairing because of cost); needs 2 new rear struts
    Paint chips on front hood, 3-5 door dings; otherwise is in great
      condition
   Tires in great condition
   AM/FM/Cassette/Single CD
   Tilt and power steering
   Power windows
   Moon roof
   Dual air bags
   A/C
Cloth seats and interior: excellent condition

Thanks,
Scott

rroyce10 · December 2003

... **Hi Terry by bluestar1 Nov 25, 2003 (11:36 pm)
Looking for retail number on this truck which interest me greatly. Will like to know what I can/might offer the dealer.

2001 LX470, white/beige, 70K miles
loaded with Nav/ML, chrome wheels, heated seats, etc.
Good condition (in/out), no visible dings or scratches
in Texas (Houston)

Dealer is asking $35K for it.

Thanks

          _________

        These are great vehicles, should see 200k+ properly service and cared for ...

         $35k ...? ... seems a little on the tall side for any 70k vehicle .. if it's super nice, Fat daddy, deep rubber, looks drives and feels like 30k, no repaints, no I got stampeded at WalMart, then the dealer might, "could" have $29 and change in it .. I would think you could grab it for $32/$33 ... $35 ..? .. sure, if it had 45/50k.

                  Good luck and let me know ..

                        Terry.

steine13 · December 2003

"..... 93 100 S, 115k (no Quattro, right.?) color is ok for the year, probably could see $1,5, could very easily see $2,2 if it has "eyes" and runs strong, miles save this one .. somebody would probably pay $4ish for it on the retail side."

Good call, there's $4,300 in the window.

"1996 Audi A6 Quattro 135k miles--
sounds like $3,5ish, $4,0 .."

They're "asking" $6,500. It IS nice...

$3,5-$4 is what I was thinking on the Protege. If it's been taken care of, that's a lot of car for the money....

Thanks as always... aren't you glad you're working off those Thanksgiving calories on the computer keyboard...?

-Mathias

isellhondas · December 2003

A high mileage Audi can and will bust your wallet!

You are kidding, right?

steine13 · December 2003

... I dunno... I REALLY like these things. The trick is to have another car while the Audi's in the shop (or garage). There is also a difference between a '93 FWD and a V8 quattro.

I'd be more afraid of a low-mileage 98 A6 than a high-miler that's fairly simple. The drivetrain is stout, it's the electrics that kills ya.. even the quattro isn't bad at all.. unless you're worried about a dozen or so C.V. boots.

But probably not.. I'll hold out for a 5sp quattro with leather :-)

-m

akangl · December 2003

Once, but test drove it and hated the red lights everywhere, ugh. Of course then I turned around a bought a 2001 Jetta a couple years later, learned to love the red dash lights. *shrug* Ah well, I own a Chevy, it breaks down enough for 10 Audis.

jlawrence01 · December 2003

My price for the 04 Lexus RX330 was *only* $42k.
I am still scratching my head over spending THAT much.

I will be buying it AFTER he takes the test drive.

bluestar1 · December 2003

On the 2001 LX. I just missed it. It got sold for $33,9. Just about your number. Great call, but it was my loss. Couldn't pull the trigger fast enough.

Oh well, will keep looking.

rroyce10 · December 2003

...... "1996 Audi A6 Quattro 135k miles--
sounds like $3,5ish, $4,0 .."

I dunno, "might" be a good deal if you can snatch it for $4,5/$5,0 ... you know the routine, have a "PhD in Audi" put a scope to it ..

Terry.

rroyce10 · December 2003

........ Miles are low, color is fine for the area, maybe needs a little this and that, this is one of Mathias favorites ..

        This dude better be "jam-up", no repaints, seats need to look "hovered" in, no kisses, no KFC ..

         Trade side and depending on the dealer, you should be seeing in and around that $24ish figure ...

              Let us know ...

                    Terry.

rroyce10 · December 2003

..... I always like to know what the hell happens after I post all this stuff ...

Terry ;-)

stebu · December 2003

Terry, this one caught my attention. Probably cause I've always wanted one of these. I'm not sure I can talk myself (and the wife) into pulling the trigger but it definitely has my interest.

Anyways, it's a 2002 Mustang GT Convertible (it's about 20F out right now and snowing here in MA), 5-spd, Blk on gray leather, Premium package w/the MACH 1000 stereo, but get this... only 1900 miles, basically showroom quality, clean CARFAX. The dealer is saying $20.9K... non-negotiable. What say you o'exaulted one.

cstowe · December 2003

I went to school down here in the Big Sleazy and some of my fondest (and foggiest) memories were of rolling out of a bar after a hard saturday night of partying and seeing people all dressed up and heading to church.

Ouch. The sun has never been so bright as it was on those Sunday mornings as you stumble out of Ms. Mae's...with a "traveler" in hand of course.

That is when you can call yourself a "professional" drinker

...and put yourself on the list for a new liver.

rroyce10 · December 2003

...... It has been titled, a traded vehicle/auction whatever, not a MSO vehicle, right ..?

         Ooh, $20,900 ... ? .. and no negotiation .? .. I dunno, it's a convert, a pretty nice convert I'm sure, right color for the area and No miles ... but unless I'm mistaken, it's Dec 2nd and the vehicle is parked in the Doug Flutie zipcode, winter is probably a breath away .. you can buy em' all day long with ultra low miles for the high $15's, low low low $16's at any auction in that area ..

          Unless there is a trade involved and the dealer thinks they have to show you an overallowance, I can't see why they wouldn't unhook that bad boy for the $17,9/$18,5 area ... $20,900 ...? .. are you sure this vehicle has been titled .. ? it's a 02 convert Mustang GT, not a Montblanc ...

                      Terry.

rroyce10 · December 2003

..... ** The sun has never been so bright as it was on those Sunday mornings as you stumble out of Ms. Mae's...with a "traveler" in hand of course.**

Oooooh, what a feelin' .. of course that's just what I heard, me personally I have never done anything like that, I was in church, honest injun' and that's my story and I'm sticken' to it (where's Jackson square again.? ~ over by that bright thing called the Sun) .. friends in Metaire .l.o.l...

Terry

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rroyce10 · December 2003

...... Good question .. I really don't know anyone in that area, but your smart for thinking about it, sounds like an Ebay vehicle .. call the closest dealer in the area and speak with the service Mgr, ask him how much they would charge for a pick-up and a "quality" full blown WRITTEN and guaranteed inspection, I'm thinkin' $200/$300 is about right and that should take away any anx on the deal .. unless there is something hinky going on .....

            eBay has done real well and it's a huge marketing design, but it's Very Wise to get a Superb inspection on vehicles that are too far to feel touch and smell, besides the sold percentage on eBay is only 25%, that should tell you something .. How's that go again ..? ... if it too good to be true ..?

                Let us know ....

                       Terry ;-)

jeffreydj · December 2003

2000 Mustang Convertible. V6, leather, Stereo, premium wheels (replaced). Good tires, Cruise, Fogs, etc. Mach 460 stereo. (Loaded for 2000 V6 Convertible). Inside is perfect. Outside, has always been garaged, paint is clean and still shiney. A few minor dings. Black, with Tan Leather Interior. 51K miles.

What can I reasonably expect? Would I be better of waiting for the spring? New Mustang debuts in October 2004, will my value drop drastically then? I'm in Nashville.

I reposted, because I think it skipped.

sflora · December 2003

Regarding the '00 Accord I asked about back in post 15230, just traded it in for $7600. Overall, I'm satisfied with the deal. Thanks again for your help.

rroyce10 · December 2003

..... Thanks for the feedback and enjoy your new vehicle ..!

Not a bad guess from a dumb southern white boy without a colege, oops, collage, nah, college education and being 250 miles away .....

Terry

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rroyce10 · December 2003

...... Thanks for re posting .. I have been kinda busy for the last few days with family and such ... did I miss something here ....?

Auto ..? .. El' Manual ..?

Terry.

buckeyedavep · December 2003

Any thoughts on what to expect on trade in for a 2000 Odyssey LX?

52k miles, stone silver metallic, roof rack, new tires & front brakes in last 5k miles, average condition (small scratch on right front bumper, right mirror, typical wear in carpet) in Akron Ohio.

Thanks for your help!

rroyce10 · December 2003

..... Let's see here, it's 00, it's an LX, miles are tall, got some road kill kisses, right color, not far from the NEC at the Firestone CC ..

Based on your description and depending on the dealer, sounds like the ultra high $13's, low $14's on the trade side .. what are you thinking ...?

Terry.

jeffreydj · December 2003

Automatic. And you may have missed it, but its okay. :-) Wasn't too worried about, just wanted to move it back up.

rroyce10 · December 2003

...... Your in Dolly Parton land, winter is a few days away, miles are kinda tall, it's a V6 auto, we have the tunes, top better be like brand new, no Al Capone head bands, no rust or repaints ... trade side, in and around the low to mid $7's if it needs -0- ....

Terry.

jims63139 · December 2003

Repost, please advise.

Terry,
Would love your input on the following:

2002 WRX Sedan, silver - 5 spd, one owner, clean history, current dealer picked up at auction, 75,000 miles, (i know car history because i talked to original owner, highway miles from commute to work. Mobil 1 synth oil changes)

AND

2002 WRX wagon silver -Automatic ;( - had about 3K damage to driver side, all cosmetic, has new door skin and new fender, I'm pretty good, but not an expert, and I can tell it had body work (slight ripples in doors) - 15,000 miles

THANKS!
Jim

dweller1 · December 2003

my sis in law had a 2000 DE mitsu mirage,1 owner, auto,56 k mi., in atlanta, no sale dark green , paint so-so, 1 month old tires, interior dirty but sturdy, pw , pl, cd playa,1.5 liter motor. the other drivers insurance company offered her $5,050. Should she take this and run or is it worth any more. thanks dweller

rroyce10 · December 2003

...... Depends on where you live, but we got some miles going on here EeeeYow, 75k ...? let's hope it's all highway miles vs what.? being a mailman .? .l.o.l..

          The dealer probably paid in and around the $12ish zipcode and by the time they do a this and a that, it "might" come to the table in the high $12's .. what are they asking ...?

          **had about 3K damage to driver side, all cosmetic, has new door skin and new fender** ... no help here .. again, depending on where you live it "sounds" like a $14ish vehicle on the trade side, not to sound smart, but if you see it I'm sure the dealer did ...

                     Terry.

suka_g · December 2003

the dealer lowered the price on the Impala LS again... sales guy called this morning, now they are asking 12.9 and say they are going to take a loss so they can "get it off their lot". (Do I hear desperation or just another sales pitch??

Am I a pavlovian dog for being tempted by this? Mathais -- I know you said 10K, but is that for the LS with all the options? Here's all the details again...

* 45K
* All the options save electronic overdrive. Yes, that includes those fun radio controls on the steering wheel and sunroof.
* Color is black.
* In Cleveland area.

Tires need to be replaced, other then that -- appears to be in good shape. Does have a "fleet record" on it's carfax.

Those heated seats sure sound nicer than my old 93 honda civic for the coming winter freeze.

I'm waivering...come on guys... talk me out of it!

free7bird · December 2003

Just wondering What you would expect as far as trade in goes on this car. This car is fully loaded as far as ford mustangs go, plus the Mach 1000 sound system, plus added alarm system with remote start, shock and motion detection and had the window tinted. The car only has 16,500 miles on it and would rate it as excellent condition or maybe excellent-good. The car I'm trading for I'm having to pay sticker, so would like a good deal as far as trade in goes. I live around Houston, TX but will be trading it to a Dealership in Austin, TX.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks

steine13 · December 2003

Suzanne,
I really don't know, Terry's your man here... I may be off base with the $10.
As far as "electronic overdrive", there ain't no other kind no more; "overdrive" is just an anachronistic term for fourth gear in a FWD car, and this is no three-speed.
The reason they're calling you is there's an echo in the showroom, nobody's buying, Christmas is coming, and you were interested.. so what's he got to lose?
You need a professional opinion here, sorry :-(
-m

rroyce10 · December 2003

**Hey Terry -- how about a 2001 Chevy Impala LS by suka_g Nov 26, 2003 (10:56 pm)
with 45K on it. All the options save electronic overdrive. Color is black. In Cleveland area. Tires need to be replaced, other then that -- appears to be in good shape. Does have a "fleet record" on it's carfax. Dealer has dropped the price to $13.9 (from 14.5 and 15 before that...) Is this a good deal, or dime a dozen?

              __________

         Mathias is pretty close on this one .. I'm sure the dealer is looking at the auction reports in their area and right now, their seeing the high $9's, low low low low $10's with 45k .. you don't want to get into a pissing match with the dealer, false pride never buys anyone anything .. $10,9/$11,5 would be all the money ...

           If they run it off to the auction, they "might" get Reeeal lucky and see $10,5 on a 45k LS .. deduct the auction fee $250, transport fee $150, detail $100, that comes to around $10,0 ... yep, $10,9/$11,5 is all the money and fair for both, Christmas is a few weeks away and they know it .. $12,9 ..? great price if you live in Tibet.!

                     Terry :-)

rroyce10 · December 2003

.... **Christmas is coming**

Is there an echo in here ... ?

Terry

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rroyce10 · December 2003

....... Ok, I'm glad we got that one figured out ..

            It's a 01 I30T*, it's black(onyx) we got all the stuff, you "say" it's clean, we have 20k and the dealer wants to give you $15,0 on a trade ...

            That's a nice figure, I would like to give ya $15 for it and a steak dinner .. but if it's a nice one, clean to the bone, miles are low, then it's a $16,5 vehicle .. sounds like a domestic dealer and they don't know what they are looking at (?) ...

                    Terry

mjfloyd1 · December 2003

Terry,

Thanks for the info. Dealers offered 17.5 and 18k for the trade-in and you estimated 18k. I sold it myself for 21k - took 30 minutes to sell and only looked at by one person. Thanks!!!

rroyce10 · December 2003

.... Thanks for letting me know .. Hey, an extra 2 grand at Xmas can go a long way ..!

Terry.

natedog0711 · December 2003

how much would a private party...chevy tahoe 4dr....4wd...black...1996...LT...90Kmiles.... 31210 zip...thanks for the help

dkuhajda · December 2003

Go to one of the online used car sites that allows advanced search parameters. Enter in the year, model, mileage range of 45K to 75K and a very wide search radius. That will give you a good ballpark fiqure what the car should sell for at retail from a dealer. The insurance company is liable for the car, taxes and tiltle fees, any additional add-ons: was there any warranty on the car totalled, what about rust-proofing or paint protection, aftermarket add-ons.

I'm thinking a good condition one from a reputable high quality dealer, around $6500 give or take plus tax title license, etc. It was the other drivers fault. How much damage was done to the car? Any injuries?

suka_g · December 2003

seats and get the axel fixed on my honda. <sigh>

thanks for the jolt of realism. I'm sure I'll be back for another sometime after the holidays.
;-)

Suka

driftracer · December 2003

Why do people expect Terry to look up their zip codes AND spend his free time giving accurate trade values?

Please realize this guy works like a dog - give him a break and tell him what city and state that zip code belongs to, while you're asking for your free trade numbers.

akangl · December 2003

Zipcode is Macon, GA.......just thought I'd help Terry out.

driftracer · December 2003

I could have looked it up easily, too, but the point is that the person knows where they live - why put up any kind of hurdle when you're asking for free help?

jims63139 · December 2003

Thanks for your input on the WRXs. The 2000 sedan dealer is asking 15.9. I could have picked it up at trade-in dealer b4 he got it at auction for 12.9, but, i was too late! (the miles kinda turned me off). Wholesaler who has it now didn't have to do anything to it, was cleaned up b4 he got it.

The wagon, was asking 18, alraedy offered to let it go for 15.
btw, all these are in memphis area. Thanks again!

Do you know if CarMax haggle at all on asking prices?

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