Did you recently take on (or consider) a loan of 84 months or longer on a car purchase?
A reporter would like to speak with you about your experience; please reach out to PR@Edmunds.com by 7/22 for details.
A reporter would like to speak with you about your experience; please reach out to PR@Edmunds.com by 7/22 for details.
Options
Comments
2001 Cadillac Catera
4 door v6 all the toys moo package cassette no cd 21000 miles asking $16k.
*~~~ No Bose ..? how about the chromee's, slider ..??
2000 Catera same stuff 8500 miles asking $14.8K What do you think?
*~~~ same thing, no Bose, no chromee's, no slider ..?
The 01's with ALL the stuff, miles under 20k are doing "around" $12ish .. the base ones are worth eh', what ever a base car is worth $10ish and a $13ish retail ....
I hope this helps ....
Terry
**Silver, no slider, no chromee's, 46k, a small meteorite hit to the starboard side of the vehicle .. sounds like in and around the mid to high $12's, "could" roll towards the $13ish zipcode depending on the rubber, service, etc .. **
$17,3 diff, right ..? what was the MSRP ...?
Terry.
Terry
95 Lexus GS300 Touring, two-tone gold with tan leather, dual power seats, climate control, roof, new tires, new brakes, timing belt within 5,000 miles, no paintwork.
Only negatives is it has 148,000 miles and a slight "hole" on the front bumper.
Car in in the Atlanta area.
Let me know how the #'s come out at Carmax ...
Terry.
Whether the money comes out of the left pocket or the right pocket, it goes into the same pair of pants ....
Terry.
dk - interesting perspective on the hyundais. never thought about it quite that way, but now that you mention it, out of the handful of folks I know who own them more than a few are less-than-reliable caretakers.
for another thought, I've seen a number of cheap Saturns with around 80-90K miles.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Terry.
stickguy Nov 19, 2003 9:05pm
stickguy Nov 19, 2003 10:34pm
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
1999 BMW Z-3 roadster 2.3.
6 cyl, 5 speed, white, red leather, alloys, heated seats. 76,000 miles. At a non-BMW new car dealer locally. represented as super clean. New looking Michelin Pilots.
I would be getting this for a weekend/nice weather toy, so I doubt I would put more than 2-3K on it a year, so the miles don't bother me if the price is right.
------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------------
#15582 of 15605 2000 Z3 by stickguy Nov 19, 2003 (10:34 pm)
since I'm on the Z3 train, whats RWV for a 2000 2.3, 5 speed, dark green, tan leather, all the goodies, pretty much in the wrapper. 48K on the clock, also in the Phila area.
***************************
Whine whine whine .. hurry hurry hurry, gheeez ...
The miles on the 99 are tall for a Z3, even though white is a good color, the white and red has never been a Picasso combo ... with all the service history in hand, deep sneakers, no repaints .. dealer probably has the $11's, maybe $12ish in it, maybe (being up north) .. I would think with Xmas being a month away, and in NJ, they would say $13,9 or less just to move it ..
The 00, the same thing, miles are tall for the year ... there is just Kabillions out there with 10/15/20k .. in your area, they can't have much more than $15ish in it ... sooo, I would think $17'szzzzz .. even with the weather being nice up north, one little snow storm and these will become a forgotten species .. what are they asking ..?
Do you feel better now ...?
Terry.
the '99 is listed at $14,999, so they are not too far out of whack.
the '00 was sitting at around 11K with one day to go. I have a feeling it won't make reserve.
The white one was nice (from my brief test drive), but you are correct that the miles are a bit stiff. Wouldn't care so much on a Miata, but this is a BMW, so it might get expensive.
I also liked the looks of the green/tan one more. It also has a few more goodies (like the M sport steering wheel).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2000 323it (wagon). Dark green, tan leather, premium package (roof/climate/wood trim). Pretty loaded, and of course a 5 speed. In PA (outside Phila). 38K miles
Obviously not mainstream, but what do you think this might get snapped up for?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Call it lucky if you want, but of the few post 98 Hyundai's we did resell, very few major problems. Could be that we are extra picky checking over the cars that started out as low end models. We still do way more mid-sized GM and Ford models over any other cars. Very few Chryslers, way too many transmission failures.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I remember a discussion a few months back about "no-sale" green. I came across this, and I think it goes beyond "no-sale" into the realm of "no, for the love of God, no!" green.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item- =2443101462&category=6242
I have a friend who needs trade-in and private sale values for a 2002 Acura RSX base model. It's an automatic and has 42k miles (I know, no help there). It's in okay condition, as it has some parking lot kisses on both bumpers and still has original tires. It's black and located in NJ. He's wondering if he should just trade it in and take a hit or go through the pains of dressing it up and selling on his own.
Your help would be much appreciated.
TIA
Compact Disc Player,Leather Seats,Power Seat, Power Sunroof. Also trade in would be Indianapolis. thanks
The only thing that Mazda and Kia share: is the "A" letter in their names ..
Me personally, I don't "hate" any vehicles ... sincerely, I'm happy that Dk has had good luck with his Hyundai's and I hope he has continued luck ... As far as what Edmunds say's about Kia, I really don't know, nor do I care .. you gotta remember, I "was", one of the first Kia dealers on the entire east coast and one of 25 in the country .. do I know a little about them, their history and the dealers in CA, Texas and FL since 94 ... ? .. ehhh' maybe just a little ...
Don't misunderstand me, if someone is aware of the reliability factors (or lack of), the resale value (or lack of) and they just can't afford that extra $20 bucks a month, maybe it's the way to go (if you like pain) .l.o.l.. but based on the dealers and the auctions in Baltimore, Dallas, Philly, Riverside, Charlotte, Orlando, etc, etc, these still have a loooong way to go, most of the rental car co's have broken their contracts with the likes of Daewoo, Kia and still Hyundai ... can they change, probably .! .. will they change .? .. we will still have to see, won't we .? ~ personally, I would just spend the extra $20 bucks a month ....
Terry.
Wait, maybe not a good example...
IIRC, the Kia was somewhat "based" on an earlier Protege platform, but was far from a rebadged Mazda. Starting with a few chassis pieces and an engine block gave Kia plenty of chances to screw things up.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Terry.
Good luck and let me know ..
Terry.
We used to have an '89 Pontiac LeMans, which was -- I believe -- built by Kia and a carbon copy of another GM car -- The "E" iteration of Opel's venerable "Kadett". Note that the "C-Kadett" was none other than the Chevy Chevette of yore... small world.
Anyway, the LeMans had been taken care of by some high-mileage nutcase. It was 5 years old with 135k on the clock, with 3k oil changes. We put another 20k on, with not many problems at all. The only thing was that the front end was worn out when we got it -- fixed with a rear-ended donor.. at this point we had $1400 in the car. There also was a hard-starting issue in subfreezing cold where the engine would flood... until yours truly discovered that you could reach under the dash, pull the #15 fuse (anyone here with that problem?) and when the car sputtered, coughed, and started, put it back in a second later to get the fuel pump to work again. I LOVE throttle-body injection!
So that was a good, reliable car for us. Don't mean I'd buy another one, but just goes to show that there is wide variability for any make/model.
And dkh brings up a very good point: You're buying the car, but you're also buying the previous owner. And THAT is probably at least half the problem... Here's another thing: The yahoos who can't change the oil are not likely to be type to be organized enough to actually fill out their surveys... which could go a long way to explain the discrepancy between their ratings and what Terry sees on a daily basis.
-Mathias
My friends who were looking at Prizms just bought one.
2001 with in-service date of April '01; no-sale blue, 36k miles, 3sp auto, pwr win/lock/cruise, AC.
Six Thousand American Dollars. At a new-car dealership, no less.
They just got it in from the "GM-Dealer-Only" type auction. Is that where they give them away? I was floored.
They had it checked out; it's fine. VIN stickers present except one frt quarterpanel; minor fender bender. Clean Carfax.
Just thought I'd share.
-Mathias
"4 BANGER EX's are doing in and around that $17ish range .... now, go away.!
Terry
LOL!
Cloth interior .. right.? .. auto, miles are stiff, we have some "love taps" here and there, plus we need 4 new sneakers .. depending on the dealer, it sounds like he will be seeing in and around the high $13's, maybe the low low $14's, the miles are not your friend here and unfortunately the RSX's are kinda sittin' around the market in a very quiet way ..
Down Retail Rd, a super clean and detail, a marvelous ad, $16,9 "asking" and say "Yah hoo" at $15/$16 ........
Terry.
Now, go to your room and listen to the Barney songs and if you are good I'll remove the handcuffs!!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm not too crazy about the Barney thing, but the handcuffs I might like .l.o.l..
It was a short marriage .. and a faster divorce.!
Terry.
I've also had some luck at the rental agencies for 1-2 year old, higher mileage Corolla. Almost pulled the trigger on an '03 CE with 25K miles at $10K.
But, I think you're looking at something less money. I found some decent deals on '99 Civics...not the fancy, schmancy LX or EX models, but the DX and VP models with 60ish-70ish miles.
Bang for the buck is still older Crown Vics with LeSabres coming in a close 2nd. As everyone else has said, they're usually driven by "more mature" owners who had little else to do than to hang out at the local mechanic, pharmacy, or at the Mall (normally trying to spar with me at that one parking spot close to the doors...particularly if they haven't found a way to get the ubiquitous "hadicapped" spot that populates the first 1000 parking spaces). Usually no crazy stuff done with their cars and all service (and then some) done regularly and on time. I find the high mileage ones have done little more than to drive back and forth from Florida to see the little grand "rats".
Terry.
Terry.
Terry.
I am still trying to recover from the 2 trips to Anchorage in the past week and 1 trip to Fairbanks, put over 1500 miles on the Explorer. Since July I've put 13k on that poor little truck.
I think I could sleep for a week. Thus the reason for biting my tongue, too tired to think clearly.
Almost laid down my money on the Corolla. Settled on a Civic, though.
You helped me a month or two ago (via these boards) with the '99 Civic VP....A/C, automatic, 60K miles for $7K.
MB C280 1998 white in excellent condition 53000 miles with 6 cd changer, leather, moonroof,power seats, rainsensing wipers, telephone and automatic in west texas area.
Thanks
Terry.
Well we don't have much of a description here, but IF, it's serviced to the max, deep sneakers, no repaints, no terrorist attacks in the interior, clean to the bone, looks and drives like an 01 ... trade side and depending on the dealer, you should be seeing the mid $11ish figure, now if it's puuuurfect it could roll towards the low low low $12 figure ... the miles and the color saves this beauty.
Me personally, I would send it down Retail Rd .. super detail, excellent Ad, $16,900 "asking" and cut it from the herd for the first $15/$16 .. I think in Texas you guys pay taxes on the difference on a trade, right .?
Let me know ...
Terry.
Top two photos: http://www.ptcruiserlinks.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3085
It's different, I'll give it that.
Dealer (non-Saab) is asking $14,900. Seems reasonable - thoughts?
Adam
Color is good anywhere, miles are okay, auto, slider ... $14,9 .. ? .. yep, seems "Very reasonable" .. just do your homework, Carsmack , a real good look by a real pro .. these are funny vehicles, I guess we are in a "wagon" market right now and I have seen some dealers pay as much as $13,5++ for the twin to this one, the reason.? I dunno, getting popular I guess ... if it checks out, then get yourself a Sold sticker and hang it on the mirror ...
Tell me how it goes ...
Terry.
Dealer (non-Saab) is asking $14,900. Seems reasonable - thoughts?
Adam
$5,0 from Carmax ..? .. oh yeah, you should see $1,500 from that ol' beat up junker with 150k .....
Terry.
I have a '94 Cougar with about 70K miles. I'm just getting ready to shop for an '04 Accord or Mazda 6, something smaller and more sensible for my current driving. The problem is that I have a crunching or grinding sound from the steering that I've been told is either the control arms or ball joints, with a price of $300+ to fix.
The car is in great shape otherwise, but if I plan to trade it in less than a month's time (possibly within the next couple of weeks), should I put $300 or more into this car? Or should I just let the dealer worry about fixing it?
OTOH, if they test drive it before giving me a trade value, they'll probably notice the noise from the front end and subtract $$ accordingly from my trade value, right?
What to do?
They will drive it, they will check it out, and if you don't tell them about an obvious problem, they'll be more inclined to grind you, because they're rightly thinking you're trying to pull a fast one.
Fix it, and then sell or trade.