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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    what part of Jersey are you in? I've been waiting for a 6 speed to show up to drive, but haven't got a call yet.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • dockerrdockerr Member Posts: 6
    Terry,
    Thank you!
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Member Posts: 854
    "Why is 19k miles on a 2 year old car bad? Thats less than 1000 miles per month. That is low mileage in my opinion."

    I agree, who drives 10,000 a year anymore? Isn't 15-18K the average these days with long commutes? It is unrealisitic for buyers to expect any given used car to have 10K a year on it. Quite a few 2002's were purchased in late 2001, so theya re definitely 24 months old.

    Well, I say wait till January (6 more weeks) and then the car will suddenly be a "low mile 2 year old".
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    i emailed u

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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... **Hyundai is about the cheapest way to go**

            Your absolutely correct .. if you live in Peru and it's the only vehicle in the Andes ..

             Did you fall down and hit your head ...?

                         Terry ;-)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... **Well, I say wait till January (6 more weeks) and then the car will suddenly be a "low mile 2 year old".** ....

             That makes for a great plot for the Sci FI Channel ..

                But why don't you consider doing it the easy way, in another few weeks "Tumbleweed" time will hit the dealerships from around Dec 5th to around the 30th, most dealers will be looking to bust out of their "standing" inventories, pull a little harder on the trades and hopefully save a few zillion dollars.

             Or do it your way, wait for the new books to hit in January and reeeally get your feelings hurt .. it's your call.

           
                Do really have Rod Serlings autograph .?

                         Terry ;))
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Is that MDX an MSO vehicle (never titled) or traded/bought at auction ...?

                    El' Biggo difference ...!

                          Terry.
  • tblazer503tblazer503 Member Posts: 620
    Whaddya think of the new TL? Just curious as I haven't read many reviews.. think it will hold it's own in the value market?

    It's calling me... might to test drive one today... *sigh* 3.5 years and 3 cars later.... hopefully this will be my last one...

    Getting tired of rowing my own gears... thinking of waiting until the market cools down a bit. Also gives time to see if those dang 5AT's have the bugs worked out YET since some Accords are still haveing issues. ....

    If they get pushy, I'll just offer them 31k for the car OTD with them paying off my '03 EX 4cyl 5MT Silver 12k @ 19k... hehe.... (OR 350/mo 72mo 0 down....) either way... lol
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Based on your description it sounds pretty nice .. miles are a little tall, but we have the Bose, slider, abs, all the good stuff .. trade side (if it's got deep rubber, no repaints, nothing hinky) in and around the high $6's, low $7's .. down Retail Rd, after a great ad and a super detail $9,900 "asking" and cut her loose for the first $8,5/$9,5 cash buyer .....

                     Good luck and let us know ...

                          Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... **Getting tired of rowing my own gears...** ... if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that .l.o.l.. hey wait a minute, I do ..

               Gosh, I'm really the last person on the planet to ask ... the last time I "really" liked the first views of a vehicle, it was when the New Camry's first came out .. Man, I thought they were just super tuff ~ now, I think they look like bloated Jetta's .l.o.l...

            But yes, I do like them .. they stole some Bimmer 5 for the tail, grabbed a little Lexus down the sides, nice casual hood and grille, a great interior and the 270hp should be enough to get me to the Golf course on time .... ;)

            Acura's always have a good re-sale, the only one that seems to suffer right now is the RSX .. but getting the engineers, the market and the Pope to all agree on a successful coupe is like getting the IRA and the Brit's to sit down for a cup of tea .....

                          Terry.
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    the market and the Pope to all agree on a successful coupe is like getting the IRA and the Brit's to sit down for a cup of tea"

    Or getting Lucas Electronics to make a system that works, be it a Jaguar power window motor or a refrigerator -

    Why do Brits drink warm beer?

    Because Lucas makes refrigerators, as well as components for Jaguars.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Hello Gerald .. where do you live .?

                        Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... No Moo package, miles close to 80k, no cd, good color for the area ..

            What can I say .? .. this dude better be knee deep in rubber and ALL service records, no repaints, no I use it to dodge bullets with, clean, lookin' and feelin' like 40k .. trade side, in and around the $8's, if it's really a super "doll", then it might head towards the $9ish zipcode ~ if it needs stuff, start deducting Big time ... nothing is cheap on an Audi ....

                        Terry.
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    I had an idle hour this weekend... and I started a web page on car manufacturers and models. You can reach it off of http://www.msu.edu/~steine13/auto.htm; click on the "Makes and Models" link. So far, only Audi and a little Honda.

    It is intended as a challenge; if anyone has a favorite manufacturer they would like to write a little essay on -- Jaguar, anyone? -- I'll be happy to link it or put it on my page directly.

    Feedback on errors, of which there are bound to be many, is appreciated.

    Terry: The Prizm sold yesterday. Oh well. There's more fish in the sea.
    -Mathias
  • cstowecstowe Member Posts: 101
    Hey tulanekid, send me an e-mail, i live in New Orleans.
  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    Went to Tulane myself in the early '70's. Love N'Oleans and would move back there in a second.
    Go Green Wave!!!

    The Sandman :-)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    so what would you suggest? I'm not talking about content here. I'm referring to a vehicle that you can get the most miles out of for the least investment. So something like this seems to me to be a pretty good deal. I could put 2 years of miles on that car (another 50K on top of the 70k it has) and dump it for a tax write-off in the end. Even if it dies in 2 years, that's $750 a year in depreciation .... WAAYY less than my volvo has apparently been taking.

    Is that really not the way to go? Any other ideas? I'd love to hear them.

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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... **(another 50K on top of the 70k it has)** ....

          That's a 120,000 miles on a Hyundai .. I would rather take my chances and go snow skiing with Sonny Bono .!

          There is a potpourri of vehicles out there, Contours, Mazda's, Cavaliers, Sentra's, Lumina's, Prizm, etc, etc, etc .. Mathias has a whole springboard of information, check with him ...

                          Terry.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    Terry: how about this one (in NJ, so plan on winter eventually arriving).

    1999 BMW Z-3 roadster 2.3.

    6 cyl, 5 speed, white, leather, alloys. 76,000 miles. At a non-BMW new car dealer locally. represented as super clean, but I haven't seen it yet.

    I would be getting this for a weekend/nice weather toy, so I doubt I would put more than 2-3K on it a year, so the miles don't bother me if the price is right.

    So, what says the oracle of Florida? What low ball will make them cut it from the herd?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    I would agree with you that buying a Hyundai at that price would be tempting if you were looking for a beater to drive around in. If it collapses a week later, you are only out $1,500.

    However, I see so many better vehicles that can be had for under $3k and are probably going to run longer than the Hyundai. So, personally, I think that I would agree with Terry and take a pass.

    Maybe in 3-4 years, I would buy a 5-6 year old Hyundai ... I don't know though, as I have had one friend with two Hyundai buybacks.
  • dcyndcyn Member Posts: 17
    Hi Terry,

    That 03 Acura MDX (w/ touring and nav pkge. It has chrome side steps.The color is silver/ebony) was titled and registered. The original owner bought and traded it at the same dealership. He traded it in for a 04 MDX, before he got back the title from Albany. (it only had 2900 miles). At present the service manager of the dealership has been driving the vehicle ( until someone wants to but it.. what do they think the purpose of me putting down a $200 deposit on it was for.. to look at it). Anyway, the vehicle has been at the lot a little over a month, still waiting for the title (can anyone say .. duplicate title. I think the service manage doesn't want to give up his 03 MDX until he gets his 04 MDX. Meanwhile, the mileage as of 11/14 was 3299 miles). Anyway, the sales man stated their categorizing it as a demo. What do you think is a fair market price? Is $36/36,5 a good deal?

    Thanks for all your wonderful help.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I can find plenty of more desirable vehicles under $3K, but how about under $1500? A $1500 hyundai looks far better and has far less miles than a $1500 Mazda.

    Granted, I have not heard much about hyundais, but I do know some Korean folks who think they are quite reliable cars (since they, of course, had experience with the cars before hyundai even found the U.S.). We'll see. I've never even driven one, so its definitely still up in the air. I've just been looking at miles vs. price on all the beaters I can find and Hyundais are always popping up at the top of the list.

    hey, stickguy, did you have any luck with the Acura dealers?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    I'm down by Phila, so Princeton is a bit of a hike (although I have a friend who lives near their that might be interested).

    I talked to the local guy and he said they had a few, but they were in and out so fast, he couldn't get to the people waiting to see one.

    I continue to poke around at toys (hence my note above for Terry), thinking I could get a 3rd car for less than the difference between my old car and a nice new one, but I'll still look at the TL when one shows up. Good thing I'm not in a hurry.

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  • jgobravesjgobraves Member Posts: 5
    Looking for the trade in value of a black 2002 pontiac grand prix gtp sedan with 20k miles in excellent condition. options include Aluminum /Alloy wheels, Bose Stereo System,
    Compact Disc Player,Leather Seats,Power Seat, Power Sunroof. Also trade in would be Indianapolis. thanks
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... These are nice vehicles .. me personally, I like the size, the way they drive and handle but SUV's are a personal thing ...

               The one your looking at has no miles, right color and all the toys ..

             The only thing I find kinda "hinky" here is this title thing .. I buy vehicles all over the place (including NY) and most vehicles are sold without title in hand, most states have a "wander" time with vehicles and it's usually 30 days ....

               If it was me, and it was sold AND a "done deal" ~ your Happy [non-permissible content removed] would be in it and I would be waiting for the title to surface so I could cash the contract .. instead of having one of my guys driving it around, getting it dirty and miling it up, then holding my breath in case of a K-Mart kiss ... something isn't right here ...? maybe.? or maybe I read your post wrong .. check with the previous owner and Carsmack.

                 Other than that, it a nice rig, $36 is fair, they are paying in and around the $33's at the block ...

                         Terry.
  • jgobravesjgobraves Member Posts: 5
    Looking for the trade in value of a black 2002 pontiac grand prix gtp sedan with 20k miles in excellent condition. options include Aluminum /Alloy wheels, Bose Stereo System,
    Compact Disc Player,Leather Seats,Power Seat, Power Sunroof. Also trade in would be Indianapolis. thanks
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... 03 Hooonda's, with 3k/5k, EX's with the V6 and all the junk are sailing around that $19ish/$20,0 figure ...

                       I hope this helps ..

                            Terry.
  • gold233790gold233790 Member Posts: 183
    Ok- I guess there's not much around to be able to figure out my trade-in on my '03 XC90 that I posted the other day, but if you could help me out with what I could expect to pay for a LC that would be great.

    Right now, there is a local dealer that has an '03 LC that's never been titled, but has about 7500 miles on it. Dealership says their guys have been driving it around for the past 5 months or so......

    Anyway, it's really loaded. NAV, Entertainment, pretty much fully stocked- the MSRP was in the 62k range. Black color.

    Now, I was quoted 53k for the vehicle. Fair?
  • frag235frag235 Member Posts: 81
    "...... 03 Hooonda's, with 3k/5k, EX's with the V6 and all the junk are sailing around that $19ish/$20,0 figure ... "

    but sorry I wasn't clear in my first post...was looking for a number on 4-cylinder Accords EX-L's
    and I'm in the Olympia, WA area.

    ......going to my room now ;)
  • qbbraveheartqbbraveheart Member Posts: 1
    im looking to trade in my modified car for a 2004 STi
    car is as follows:

    2000 Honda Prelude SH
    42,340miles
    Aftermarket Front and Rear Bumpers and sideskirts
    paint is in very good condition
    interior is like brand new
    non smoker
    5spd...no problems
    Intake, exhaust and sound system as modifications
    35% tint
    oh aftermarket suspension also...very $$$

    i live in the poconos...18334
    you can contact me at qbbraveheart@yahoo.com if you like

    thanks alot
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    to return the car to as close to stock as possible - dealerships view items like aftermarket exhausts, coil-over suspensions, etc as liabilities and a regular (non small town used car place) dealership would hit you very low on trade.

    Additionally, with window tint, it's illegal in PA and won't pass state inspection - your best bet is to remove the tint, versus the dealer hitting you car for $300 in labor.

    Instead of the dealer, a better bet would be to sell the car on your own through ebay or cars.com.
  • gold233790gold233790 Member Posts: 183
    Ok- I guess there's not much around to be able to figure out my trade-in on my '03 XC90 that I posted the other day, but if you could help me out with what I could expect to pay for a LC that would be great.

    Right now, there is a local dealer that has an '03 LC that's never been titled, but has about 7500 miles on it. Dealership says their guys have been driving it around for the past 5 months or so......

    Anyway, it's really loaded. NAV, Entertainment, pretty much fully stocked- the MSRP was in the 62k range. Black color.

    Now, I was quoted 53k for the vehicle. Fair?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    HUH? 53K?? As in $53K?? are we talkin american dollars here?? According to Edmunds here, TMV for a brand spankin' new '04 LC with every possible box checked is $56K (msrp $59 zip code).

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  • dcyndcyn Member Posts: 17
    Thanks soooooo much Terry!

    Unfortunately, you did read my post correctly.. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks something is "hinky" with this deal. Anyway, I going to go to the dealer on Friday and find out once and for all what is going on.. do they want to sell this vehicle or what? If so, the manager needs to get his, let's just say it ain't the first part that comes through the door, into another ride immediately!!!

    I'm extremely tempted to argue that they should take 15 cent for every mile the manager put on it( after all I did put down a deposit on it a little more then two weeks ago.. they didn't process it,claimed couldn't without the title). I'll let you know what happens.

    Muy muchos gracias for all the "on point" help you have provided.

    Hey, Terry! I promise if your ever crossing the street and there's a big rain puddle in front of ya and I'm barreling down the street .. I'll swerve instead of splashin ya..Hey, I'm a New Yorker,that shows how much ya mean to me. Much respect !!! Thanks again. :)
  • gold233790gold233790 Member Posts: 183
    The 59k msrp seems a few thousand low for a loaded LC. It's more like 62-63k. The vehicle I was looking at actually had an msrp a shade under 62,000. Dealer invoice at about 54,500. My guess is I can probably push them a little lower, but is 1500 below invoice a good starting point for a "new" vehicle with 7500 miles. I say that with tongue in cheek, of course, but according to most states I believe if a vehicle has never been titles it is considered "new". I know these vehicles tend to hold their value decently, so again I love the car but want to know if something is fair.

    We love the LC, and with a growing family that travels a lot the NAV and ENT are nice features. With those two options, you usually find the rest of the car loaded up as well in the NE. So, if we feel the $3500 is worth buying a car with some mileage (one in which we intend to run well over 100k on) is that price reasonable?
  • tblazer503tblazer503 Member Posts: 620
    you check out that oddy guy yet? it's in the smart shopper... funny as heck... lol

    What's up with that hyundai?
    Climate control... oooh is that what the blue to red slider is for?
    halogen headlights... thought the all came with that
    inside hood release... nuff said.
    radial tires... hmmmm

    Okay, i just thought that was funny that you would advertise that kind of stuff...

    BTW terry, you were on with the trade on my '03 Accord, hit up the Acura Dealership for the '04 TL, 16,9 on my Accord, MSRP on the TL... guess I'll be back there to try again in 6months.. lol
  • tlaplantetlaplante Member Posts: 19
    Terry can you tell me what they should cut this one loose for.
    2003 Olds Alero GL
    v6 auto cloth most of the power stuff
    beige ext 4 door with 28000 miles
    asking $12k Any comments pro or con.

    Thanks Tom
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    driftracer is dead on correct. All of those expensive modifications are actully a liability.

    A lot of buyers don't like them (me)and they scare a lot of others who fear the car has had a hard, abusive life.

    Sell that stuff on e-bay.

    Also, remove the tint. It can make a car saleproof.
  • tlaplantetlaplante Member Posts: 19
    2001 Cadillac Catera
     4 door v6 all the toys moo package cassette no cd 21000 miles asking $16k.

    2000 Catera same stuff 8500 miles asking $14.8K What do you think?

    Thank you
    Tom
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    I drove the car I asked about earlier, and it seemed to run wel, and showed nice, so peg it as somewhere between average and clean (per Edmunds)

    1999 BMW Z-3 roadster 2.3.

    6 cyl, 5 speed, white, red leather, alloys, heated seats. 76,000 miles. At a non-BMW new car dealer locally. represented as super clean. New looking Michelin Pilots.

    I would be getting this for a weekend/nice weather toy, so I doubt I would put more than 2-3K on it a year, so the miles don't bother me if the price is right.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    since I'm on the Z3 train, whats RWV for a 2000 2.3, 5 speed, dark green, tan leather, all the goodies, pretty much in the wrapper. 48K on the clock, also in the Phila area.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Member Posts: 487
    Despite what others say about Hyundai cars, we have a lot of them on the road. Here us our take, from the buy here pay here perspective.
    1. Hyundai's before 1997, lots of little problems, lots of not so little problems. That Mitz 1.5L engine they used and then started producing had lots of problems at high miles (non-to major however).
    2. Post 98 Hyundai. The major reliability issues were ironed out. The class of customer still buying the car was and is a problem. I cannot tell you how many low end people can barely afford the payment to keep the car from being repo'd, let alone an oil change in under 20K miles, or any other maintenance.
    They are not without issues that require a little extra maintenance car (which very few even get factory recommended maintenance), but we have several, 1998 Elantra's, going over 120K that the customers bought at 80K with very few problems. I have to add; it is still a big gamble on the used ones due to both the occasional Hyundai quality problem and the bigger low end owner problems.

    We buy every single Olds Ciera and Buick Century 1990-1994 we can get. Most of these were elderly owned, regular dealer maintenance visits, reasonable miles, can be had for $1500-$2500, private party retail, depending on the miles. I've seen 94K ones that look and drive like 20K!!! There are lots of those with 200K and still ticking. The #1 reason we like them, parts are plentiful and cheap. #2 reason, aside from some GM quality issues (every ASC tech knows what to watch on these), they are reasonably reliable.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ... ** Volvo XC90 Again by gold233790 Nov 17, 2003 (5:23 pm)
    I think I may have gotten lost in the flood of posts at the end of the week, but I'll repost. Anyway, Terry, we've outgrown our '03 XC90 and need to upgrade in space to a Sequioa. It happens when you get a 100 lb dog and new baby in the span of 6 months!!

    Anyway, here are the details:

    Black, 2.5T. No dings, dents, etc. Excellent condition, 14k miles. Only time it's been in is for 7500 service and regular oil and fluid changes. AWD. Premium package (leather, in-dash 6 CD, homelink, moonroof), climate package (heated seats, rain sensor wipers, air quality sensor). 17" wheels, which were an option on '03 but I believe are now standard. NO versatility- so no 3rd row seat (I know, could've used it!!!).

    Anyway, can't find a number anywhere- the only prices I've seen are on this site, but those are actually so close to original MSRP (mine was $39,430- and sold for VERY close to it) that I can't believe they are accurate.

    Thanks.

    Jeff

                 ***********************

               I get sidetracked all the time, phones ringing, cell is beeping, customers want to complain about a scratch on their windshield and they have had the vehicle for 13 months .. besides, I have my knitting lessons twice a week now and next week starts my basket weaving ... so If I don't pop my stupid head up in a day or so, just repost ..... :)

                But anyway, it's an 03 XC90 2.5t, miles are semi tall at 14k, slider, leather, black (hope your up north) we got some toys with NO 3rd seat ~ yeow.! .. if it's clean ~ trade side, in and around that $30/$31ish range, that 3rd seat is going to haunt you like your last wife ... these are pretty nice vehicles I have had a few of them.

                         Terry :)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... >> Post 98 Hyundai. The major reliability issues were ironed out << ...

           >>customers bought at 80K with very few problems.<< ...l.o.l...... your kidding right ...?

              

          
               How long have you been in that coma ..?

                         Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... **'03 LC that's never been titled, but has about 7500 miles on it. Dealership says their guys have been driving it around for the past 5 months or so......**

           Are we sure about this ..? never titled .? a 7,500 mile demo ..? especially an LC, ya better check.

                         Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... **was looking for a number on 4-cylinder Accords EX-L's
    and I'm in the Olympia, WA area.** ...

              Dooooooh ..! you commie.!

              4 BANGER EX's are doing in and around that $17ish range .... now, go away.!

                          Terry ;)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Let's see here .. it's a 00, it's a FWD, silver, pretty good condition and we have traveled 29k .. right .?

             $22,0 on a trade ...? That my friend, is A L L the money in the universe .... don't call, don't walk, just RUN and be there when they open with some Eggs Benedict for the whole crew .... $22 ..? Wow ..!

                      Terry :)
  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    Ditto on the Ciera ...

    1) Voted #1 car in the Chicagoland area ... among women over 70.

    2) Available very inexpensively as people think that Oldsmobile parts will be scarce in a couple of years.

    3) Relatively any mechanic can fix the thing ... and cheaply.

    4) Unbelieveably problem free.

    GM worked out the rust problems that plagued the late '80's model.

    I would look for a V6 though. The 4-cylinders are painfully underpowered and (believe it or not) do not get as good gas mileage.

    As my teenage niece told me ... "this car would be tough to get a speeding ticket with."
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Hey Tom .. it's a 2003 Olds Alero GL, v6, auto, cloth most of the power stuff
    beige ext 4 door with 28000 miles
    asking $12k ....

           Lot's of miles for an 03, pretty much a base GL, just bought some with 7/9k for the $9's with all the junk ... 28k ..? "maybe" has the $8's in it .. sounds like a $9,999 retail piece to me.

                        Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... Good post, hard to break em' .. if ya do, it's cheap to fix, the Regals and the Centurys are the same way ...

                        Terry.
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