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1st time poster, thanks for the response on the crown vic. it's dark blue, live in Northern NJ. dealer stated it will go directly to wholesale. im thinking of holding my ground, as they are trying to make up the negotiating on the new ride with a lowball offer
thoughts?
Terry.
But is this a XL or a Sport.? .. or did you print it and I went blind "again" ...
Terry.
My father in law is looking for a RS6 and theres one he found, 03, 16k, red with dark grey leather, bose, sunroof etc etc. The car is in NJ and they are asking 70k. I know theres not many around, but any ideas on a fair price for one of these?
Thanks for your time
Can anyone please help me with a real world trade-in value for a 2002 Ford Escape XLT 4WD with running boards and tow package? It has 64,000 miles, is in good condition, relatively new Dueler A/T Revo tires, and full maintenance records. I'm in the Burlington VT area.
The 1994 and 1995 had the updated 3.2 litre inline 6 with better breathing (built really, I understand, on the block of the old 3.0 liter but looked like an update styling of the W124 first put out in 1986. The grill is smaller and inset and the trunk has a less defined horizontal line.
The trade in is only $4600 (yikes!) and the private party says $6900. Doesn't seem like much for a lot of car, but I guess that's where it goes.
Your other question....hmmmm. Ventura County, Calif
Turned 1200 miles on the Focus today.....'bout time for a new car......hehehe, NOT. 34 mpg, gotta love it.
Caught so many fish today that I don't think I can move my right arm very much.
Location: Minneapolis
Car has 79,000 highway miles, dark grey/black leather, no sunroof or autostick, otherwise the LHS came with all the toys. Rubber has between 7-9K miles on it. Car looks and drives great, everything works. Whats it worth going down retail road?
Terry.
1998 Acura Integra LS 3DR Hatch
Man Transmission
49500 Miles
Dark Green Exterior
Cloth interior (color is Parchment)
No accidents, a 3 minor dings on the side and a couple of small scratches.
The interior has very minor wear
Garage kept for the last 3 years
One owner
No mech problems.
Tires are good (less than 2000 miles)
I have the maintence records.
I have the original Acura Radio/CD, but currently it has a Rockford Fosgate CD player, a Kenwood EQ, a 500W amp, a 250W amp, a crossover and a 12in Crunch Speakerbox.
Thanks for any input.
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Good description, thanks ... In the land of Goofy, we have a 98 Acura LS Integra 3dr with less than 50k, it's got the el' manual tranny, it's got that no-sale green thing going on, no hydes, rubber sounds new, 1 player, all the service stuff and a few drunken sailors in the doors, sounds nice ... for starters, kick the high end tunes and put the factory back in, if it's Clean, the paint is right, interior isn't all bleached out and you have some Arctic air, then trade side: in and around the mid to tall $6's .... this is a perfect vehicle for Retail Rd, superb detail, great and wonderful 5 liner ad in the Orlando paper, $8,950 *asking* and it gets a new owner at $7,9/$8,5 .. 50k.? this should take about 3 days, hard to get and hard to find ..........................
Let me know how it goes .!
Terry.
1. zip 98104 (seattle, wa) --- $42,195
2. zip 90004 (los angeles, ca) --- $42,195
3. zip 50012 (austin, tx) --- $40,770
For Edmunds TMV:
1. zip 98104 (seattle, wa) --- $49,275
2. zip 90004 (los angeles, ca) --- $49,275
3. zip 50012 (austin, tx) --- $48,982
See the difference? Edmunds is consistently $8,000 higher than KBB's price regardless of the locations (north or south). For KBB, it doesn't even ask you the color. And obviously, this convertible will sell better in the colder north or Seattle than in the hotter Texas...
So, I don't think it's fair to say the price difference has nothing to do with the methodology/intent/agenda of the reports. KBB is obviously more dealer friendly as it gives lower trade-in value and overprice the retail value. There can be only one "true" market value. Your report don't need to "guess", just average the real sales value and report it honestly and you will give people the true market value, which is what people are looking for.
Comments?
** Thinking about purchasing, any hope for a better price than residual? **
That depends - (and I don't mean the kind you wear) ..
Depending on the lease co, and I will "assume" your with BMWFS, some will and some won't .. it will depend in the vehicle, time of the year and the miles on the vehicle .. for starters, Don't get the dealer involved, they have nothing, -0-, less than 1 to do with the contract or the purchase price - no matter what they tell ya .l.o.l.. you need to be speaking with the regional/district lease manger from BMW, not the funny little voice on the other end of the phone, they may be nice and they may be courteous , but they're not decision makers and they read off the screen ... in your case, the lease co. will be looking at the auction reports from mid/late September and make a decision, so they will either "blow and go" at the $31ish figure - or not .................
Terry.
I want to reduce my monthly payment by at least 250 a month. Truthfully I want to pay off cc's. I am considering leasing, but don't want to enter a lease upside down. Am I stupid to even consider leasing?? This is not a situation where I'm broke. I can make the payments, but there is not much left over at the end of the month. Husband wants me to keep the car as it rated high on the safety scale and we have kids. Brother says to pay the big bucks now and have a car for the next 8 years...I put maybe 10 to 12k a year on my car...so it's at almost 31k now and it's a 2001. I went into the dealer where I got it a few months ago and tried trade it in on something less expensive. My sales person couldn't have been less interested in getting me any type of deal. (I think he thought I was nuts to want out of the Volvo) I would've had to come up with 2k rolled into a new loan to get out of my car and into a POS. I tried to sell it on my own, had NO calls at all. Only advertised it for a week two months ago. Probably that wasn't a good amount amount of time.
Am I being totally unrealistic? Should I stay where I am...pay it off and be close to broke for the next 3 years or trade it in on a lease or buy a cheaper car???? I am located in Central Maine and the winters are cold. This car is reliable. It's garaged and has leather seats, but no seat heaters which doesn't bother me. It does have the cold weather package It's ash gold, has no sunroof. It sold for 35k brand new. Never in an accident. Thanks...
Uh, hmmm, ah .. I don't know if I follow your post, I have a low IQ and I haven't had enough coffee to break even yet ....
If were talking about trade values in this "particular case" of the 02 convert M3's, then KBB would be the most accurate .. there's not a dealer from Boston to San Clemente that would drop $49,0 in a 20k M3, even if it's puuuurfect, glows in the dark and *Cleaner then the board of health*, it's a $39/$41ish trade side vehicle depending on the color, options, miles and most important ~ the condition ... $49,0 is an *asking* Retail Zone price ... so it has nothing to do with dealers, sun spots, barometric pressure or the alignment with Pluto, it's what the market will bear.
more coffee, and where's my cheaters .....
Terry.
2002 Explorer XLT, V-8, 3rd row, towing pkg, cloth, no sunroof, running boards, cd, rear air, 2wd, 37k miles, 75k mile warranty (certified preowned), dk green.
2.
2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner, V-6, 2wd, double cab, TRD off-road pkg, spray-on bed liner, tool box, power windows/locks, cd, chrome bumpers, 34k miles, black.
Thanks!!!
4WD ........... ?
The new and improved 6 wheel drive .?!?
Terry.
They'll pay what the market bears, and not what some book says.
Books are a great source of information for banks to loan money on cars.
Forget the books - people get all caught up in what this book says, and that book says, and why this one's different - forget it - books don't buy cars, people do.
What's it really worth? (White, auto, 6cyl, CD, chrome wheels, (grey)leather, sunroof, all electric, climate control, all records ??
Do I sell? or keep it as a nice beater?? ** ......
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Well, lets see here .. it's a 94 E320 with 143k, color is good anywhere, auto, slider, wheels, stuff like that, plus we have all the history .. (depending on where you live) if it's a nice car, looks and feels like a 00, deep sneakers, cold breeze, good stoppers, then trade side it's worth in and around the mid/tall $3's, "maybe" the low low low $4's ..... actually a pretty nice vehicle for Retail Rd, if it has "eye's" ~ $6,900 *asking* and wave goodbye at the first $5,5/$6,5 .....
Terry.
>>But is this a XL or a Sport.? .. or did you print it and I went blind "again" ...
I believe it is a Sport. It's very sporty to drive, ha ha.....96 Explorer 2 door, 4wd, auto, AC, AM-FM-tape, PW, PL. 75K miles. Red with gray interior. In Ohio. Looking for Retail Rd. number, BIL is asking 7K. I'm thinking mid 5's is about all its going to do.
Isell:I know of Washington Court House. Never been there but pass nearby on I-71 alot. Always wondered why they named it like that.
1999 Ram 3500 V10/auto, reg cab/dually/longbed, 4x4, SLT Laramie, 20k, red/gray, good tires, spray in bedliner. We have to get the dent in the top of the tailgate fixed and a good detail put on it, with those it will look like an 02. Nice truck, runs well/looks good, still has ESC left on it which can be transfered. Was thinking $13k/$14k on the retail side, am I close?
I promise we won't buy another truck to replace it, just need it to go since it won't be paying for itself any longer and is of no use to us without the business.
And there goes nother unsuccessful attempt at winning "Guess When Jolie Buys Her Next Car".
;-)
I would greatly appreciate a Real World Trade-In Value for my 2000 Passat:
I purchased the car used from an individual at 30K miles. Car now has 93,000 miles. I have changed the oil at every 3 to 4,000 mile interval at the dealership. Now, I'm down to 20lbs. of oil pressure and the dealership and private mechanics tell me I need another engine. The car is in good condition otherwise (in fact, it drives great and I had no idea I had a problem until the big red "STOP" showed up on my instrument panel!).
Here are the specs:
- 1.8T
- Leather
- Power moonroof
- CD changer
- Monsoon audio system
- Aluminum wheels
- heated front seats
- dark blue
- 93,000 miles
What do you think?
Thank you!
My goal is to pay the Focus off within a year and be down to 1 car payment.
bowke.......you know if we were closer to you we would have bought the Titan and the Focus from you. ;-)
You should have heard us on the test drive with the Focus, holy cow, we fought the whole time. I kept trying to find reasons not to buy the car and he was saying that we were buying that car whether I liked it or not. He won, I wasn't happy, but am now, he was right.......and 34 mpg is real nice to see. However, this next time (new truck vs travel trailer), I WILL get what I want.
please take out your crystal ball, peer through the smoke and haze and let me know what you see!
thanks
John
I am a fellow CCB that's how I know you will buy something else. Even though I am very happy with our 04 Accord (32 MPG + XM + curtain airbags) my husband wants a RWD sports car and I want to move north so we might need AWD. All of that is at least a couple of years away though. At least until our Ody gets returned in 20 months.
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Terry.
1. The owner of the logging operation will have cranium removal surgery (pull his head out of his [non-permissible content removed]) and start hauling loads and paying. Then we won't have to bail, hubby is the ONE person who has held that operation together, without him I see the guy in bk court in no time.
OR
2. We can sell the Dodge without too much heartburn and keep ourselves from replacing it with a bigger more expensive truck.
I will be trying to sell or trade:
1997 Ford Expedition, 2WD
93k miles
5.4L V8
Leather
Clean
All service records
Austin, TX
Thanks.
One minute you are fine with the Dodge and the next you HAVE to sell it. Please, take a breathe before you make these expensive decisions.
I always enjoy what you bring to this site but it seems like you guys don't think ahead very far. If the logging business is bad this week then maybe in two weeks in might pick up..... winter is around the corner.
Ok, ok, I've had a glass of wine.... no offense intended.
Mark156
As for the business, this day has been coming for a while. Summertime is the peak logging season, but not this year, winter is hard, snow, cold, icy roads. We won't know for sure what is going to happen until hubby has a little *sit down* with the owner, its time to lay the cards out. We are just getting prepared for the end and finding out the value of the Dodge is one step. We are in a position to deal with all of this easily, so its not the end of the world.
I know you are just going to reply again with a drunken tone. Fine, go ahead and continue to be uselss and wasteful on this board.
Location: Minneapolis
Car has 79,000 highway miles, dark grey/black leather, no sunroof or autostick, otherwise the LHS came with all the toys. Rubber has between 7-9K miles on it. Car looks and drives great, everything works. Whats it worth going down retail road?
Not while I'm around. Terry and several other of the car pros here give VERY good advice. They are not looking for business they are just trying to help people. I've learned a lifetime of car business wealth by absorbing the info they impart.
Terry definitely has an offbeat sense of humor when he gives his answers which I ( and countless others) find is one of his great qualities. He calls them as he reads them and if you don't like his real world ( not book)answer that is your right but that doesn't give you the
right to slam him.
Your "conspiracy theory" nor your critic isms don't have any validity so please read a few thousand posts and learn before making baseless statements impugning Terry or anyone else.
:: Climbs off soapbox::
Duncan
When my wife "nearly-totaled" her minivan, his advice helped me out greatly in dealing with the insurance co. and the body shop.
Like it or not, what you get from him is as good as it is going to get without actually seeing the vehicles. You also get his diatribe, which I personally find hilarious. If you don't like it, say Thank You like a polite person, and go somewhere else.
Steiner's 1st Law of Used Cars:
Nobody Has To Buy Your Ride.
You have to make them want your car. And that usually means price, even on an M3.
This was the Edmunds-Compatible version of what I would like to tell you. For the other version, shoot me a quick email.
Not in the car business, either, I remain
-Mathias
97 328 coupe, white over blk leather.
100k, 5sp stick, sunroof, computer (I think), no aftermarket abominations. Will need new summer tires "soon", extra snows (good tread) to go with the car.
This is his beater, he also has a 2003 M3. Really.
Maintained by the book, oil changes done as per on-board computer, with the occasional "extra" one snuck in when the computer took too long.
Two love taps; one guard rail, one deer. No frame damage, $3k each, done right by the body shop that the high-end dealer uses.
One little rust repair a year ago; a seam had let water through and was fixed... dunno if follow-up to earlier repairs. It's in great shape, treated with love and respect by a BMW nut job.
How much at the auction?
How much on the street?
TIA as always,
-Mathias
'96 2 door, 4WD, auto, AC, AM-FM-tape, PW, PL, PM. 75K miles. Red with gray interior. In central Ohio. Selling it for brother-in-law, he advertised it at 7K, no takers, we're going to ask $5900.
If you don't like what you hear, fine - GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. As a fellow appraiser/auction buyer, I can say that Terry has 10 times the experience I do, and I've got close to 18,000 cars under my belt.
He's always spot-on and knows the market in every corner of the country, because he travels to every corner of the country.
You owe Terry an apology for the "drunken" comment - way uncool and very unprofessional. Stay if you like, but you need to understand that this guy gets paid ZERO for being here for what seems like 24/7, and still makes time to run his dealer group.
What you've done is like walking into a church and slapping the minister in front of the congregation - you have NO idea about the used car market - NONE - so you need to attack Terry?
Get real, dude, as Dr Phil says...
And, like Mathias, this was the Edmunds-Compatible version of what I would like to tell you. For the other version, shoot me a quick email.
Jim
and by the way, the "internet" or a "guide book" will never be able to appraise a car as long as someone at a dealership has to pull out their checkbook - it takes eyes, touch, feel, and experience.